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Post by htfcterry on Jul 27, 2024 5:57:35 GMT 1
We need Kasumu and think in league 1 he will be fine. Any money we spend now needs to be spent on the front five . It will be there where we pick up extra points. It’s where we lack quality. A striker and a Sorba replacement. That’s the two I think Nagle was referring too. What is this based on? It can't be just me who thinks he's a liability. |
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Post by terrier17 on Jul 27, 2024 6:31:36 GMT 1
We need Kasumu and think in league 1 he will be fine. Any money we spend now needs to be spent on the front five . It will be there where we pick up extra points. It’s where we lack quality. A striker and a Sorba replacement. That’s the two I think Nagle was referring too. What is this based on? It can't be just me who thinks he's a liability. I agree, not good enough on the ball for championship level, yet to been seen in league one and that’s if he stays fit! |
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Jul 27, 2024 6:55:44 GMT 1
What is this based on? It can't be just me who thinks he's a liability. I agree, not good enough on the ball for championship level, yet to been seen in league one and that’s if he stays fit! When he first signed he wasn't too bad on the ball. He's carried on in pre season where he left off from last season with very sloppy panicked passing. Hopefully he'll get some confidence back and improve that side of his game because off the ball he'll be great in league one |
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Post by VLP Fan Club on Jul 27, 2024 7:36:06 GMT 1
We need Kasumu and think in league 1 he will be fine. Any money we spend now needs to be spent on the front five . It will be there where we pick up extra points. It’s where we lack quality. A striker and a Sorba replacement. That’s the two I think Nagle was referring too. We most definitely don’t need Kasumu |
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Post by dezzly on Jul 27, 2024 8:30:40 GMT 1
We need Kasumu and think in league 1 he will be fine. Any money we spend now needs to be spent on the front five . It will be there where we pick up extra points. It’s where we lack quality. A striker and a Sorba replacement. That’s the two I think Nagle was referring too. We most definitely don’t need Kasumu I see it as this,we need him in terms of as a body more than the actual quality he brings. Since he’s been with us he’s had the odd decent game,but generally he’s been a bit of a headless chicken who gives the ball away far too many times,and more specifically far too many times under absolutely no pressure.Personally I struggle understanding it at times because he played in a mk dons side that were known for been good in possession. You could try lay the arguement that he’s come into a crap championship side that are all over the place and played under several managers.Yes that won’t have been easy but for me giving the ball away that much there aren’t any excuses for tbh.Unfortunately in pre season he’s looked largely the same.Will his attributes stand out and contribute more in league 1,I don’t know,will a run of games and generally playing against lesser opposition see him improve and look competent,I don’t know. If(and it’s an if) he could continue covering the ground and breaking play up and start to be able to find better team mates then he will have a place in the team as he has something Hogg doesn’t…pace. That said for me I’d be starting Hogg there which for me is reason enough to be going out and getting someone for that position. |
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Post by garyroberts'leftfoot on Jul 27, 2024 8:34:15 GMT 1
I still think he has a role to play.
We don’t need him to be Pirlo. We need him to get around the pitch, win the ball back and stop counter attacks. From a passing perspective we just need him to give it to Kane and Evans. He also showed some ability in receiving the ball from the centre backs, turning and driving forwards (a bit like OBrien) so some of that would be good too.
It’s a long season with a lot of games so let’s not go writing him off yet.
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Post by dezzly on Jul 27, 2024 8:49:06 GMT 1
I still think he has a role to play. We don’t need him to be Pirlo. We need him to get around the pitch, win the ball back and stop counter attacks. From a passing perspective we just need him to give it to Kane and Evans. He also showed some ability in receiving the ball from the centre backs, turning and driving forwards (a bit like OBrien) so some of that would be good too. It’s a long season with a lot of games so let’s not go writing him off yet. I agree on the points you make,if he could just manage to sort out the bit of giving it to Kane and evans then that’s all he’s required to do.We will need a player to break it up and give it to those players,and he can cover more ground than Hogg for instance. The problem would be if he consistently gives the ball away all it does is put us on the back foot and with more often than not in positions where they can cover. Oddly he’s probably better receiving the ball and turning like you say than he is when he’s got time on the ball to pick a pass…🤷🏻 Last year of his contract also I believe so he’s playing for another deal. |
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Post by iffyslostlens on Jul 27, 2024 8:55:35 GMT 1
I still think he has a role to play. We don’t need him to be Pirlo. We need him to get around the pitch, win the ball back and stop counter attacks. From a passing perspective we just need him to give it to Kane and Evans. He also showed some ability in receiving the ball from the centre backs, turning and driving forwards (a bit like OBrien) so some of that would be good too. It’s a long season with a lot of games so let’s not go writing him off yet. I agree on the points you make,if he could just manage to sort out the bit of giving it to Kane and evans then that’s all he’s required to do.We will need a player to break it up and give it to those players,and he can cover more ground than Hogg for instance. The problem would be if he consistently gives the ball away all it does is put us on the back foot and with more often than not in positions where they can cover. Oddly he’s probably better receiving the ball and turning like you say than he is when he’s got time on the ball to pick a pass…🤷🏻 Last year of his contract also I believe so he’s playing for another deal. Kasumu definitely regressed on the passing side last season, looked like a confidence thing to me, but his ability to intercept and quickly mive usup the pitch was only matched by Sorba last season. The 2 new guys dont look to really do this so think he has a part to play this season even if its only as a aquad option |
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Post by wildhogg on Jul 27, 2024 8:58:29 GMT 1
Hopeful that we have a few new arrivals next week and the week after. I really like.our new recruits but we're going to need more. Presuming that Simpson and Thomas leaving is to clear the decks for a few newbies. I'd saw we need three more minimum. I feel really confident in Duff, he seems like a realist, doesn't spout clichés and is the sort of personality who will command the respect of the players. Hopefully he's backed to the hilt.
In terms of Kasumu, he's definitely a 'keeper' for me; despite his deficiencies. Done it before at this level and hopefully Duff will find a role for him in the match day squad which fits with his skillset. Not being able to complete a simple 10 yard pass is a major issue for a footballer at any level, though. There'll be plenty of games when we need to bring someone on to charge round and be a nuisance.
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Post by dezzly on Jul 27, 2024 9:04:20 GMT 1
Also something I brought up yesterday on the squad overhaul.It’s just not going to all happen this summer.The amount of players we have who we would move on if we could is a long list.Just looked at players out of contract next summer.
Helik,koroma,Pearson,Kasumu,Spencer,headley,high,lees,turton,Jackson,ward,Ruffels,Maxwell,jones,Hogg,ayina.
Out of those we could probably get interest for Helik,koroma,Spencer,headley(at a lower level).Helik and Spencer we won’t want to sell,the other two we would probably accept offers if right money.
Of the rest would assume there’s a group won’t be here regardless next season Pearson,lees,turton,ward,Ruffels,Hogg.Problem being it’s unlikely we can shift any of them now and all will contribute this season in some form though likely without pulling up any trees.
Kasumu may have to prove his worth as at a decent age,if we were promoted I can’t see him getting another deal,league 1 maybe.
High,Jackson and ayina probably get loaned out.
Maxwell may get kept on too.
It all points to having a go this season but largely with what we’ve got plus 6/7 additions(4 already in the door) and if we go up brilliant we’re setting up an almost brand new squad at champ standard….if we don’t would imagine build a squad similar to what Birmingham are of players too good for league 1(for the most part) to get autos that would then be more than good enough to play in the champ.
Point I make is anyone thinking wholesale upheaval from now will probs be disappointed,for a season at least.
The bad attitudes largely will have walked out the door with burgzorg,rudoni and debatably one soon to go in sorba.There will have been others but they can be pointed in the right direction with the ring leaders gone.
Playoffs me thinks.
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Post by htafcokay on Jul 27, 2024 9:07:21 GMT 1
Said this last week and got piled on. It's still true though, whether it's me saying it or you. Do you reckon you can make a comment without referring to someone calling you out/disagreeing with your opinion? I respect your passion and opinion and you’re a good poster but it’s a bit relentless how often you need to say something about someone disagreeing with you. When people stop piling on me, while ignoring everyone else that say the same thing, then yes I will. |
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Post by htafcokay on Jul 27, 2024 9:08:01 GMT 1
Said this last week and got piled on. It's still true though, whether it's me saying it or you. All 3 of you are talking bollocks! Kasumu has become a mainly fit and disciplined player since joining Town and will be outstanding in League1! Bollocks. |
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Post by COWSHEDPHIL on Jul 27, 2024 9:12:28 GMT 1
Kasumu’s pace and drive off the bench will be a huge attribute this season.
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Post by dezzly on Jul 27, 2024 9:14:36 GMT 1
All 3 of you are talking bollocks! Kasumu has become a mainly fit and disciplined player since joining Town and will be outstanding in League1! Bollocks. Whilst I probably wouldn’t have worded it like that 😂 though you were only saying what said to you even if not directly,I do agree with you. Outstanding absolutely can’t see it,improved form and someone who could maybe function in this team,I could see it.Just couldn’t be sure. |
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Post by bluesandtwos on Jul 27, 2024 9:25:02 GMT 1
Kasumu’s pace and drive off the bench will be a huge attribute this season. He looked absolutely fine with Rudoni and Camara. Give him a couple of ball players in front of him and he will be great at breaking up opposition attacks and linking up going forward. Great engine, needs his confidence back, like many in that squad, and time for them all to gel. |
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Post by Gold Coast Terrier on Jul 27, 2024 9:34:46 GMT 1
What is this based on? It can't be just me who thinks he's a liability. I agree, not good enough on the ball for championship level, yet to been seen in league one and that’s if he stays fit! I wouldn’t say it’s yet to be seen at League One, as he’s performed well at this level for MK Dons. I think he’ll be good in a settled midfield with a bit of substance around him. He drops into different roles which tells me not only is he smart enough to carry out instructions, he’s willing to do whatever it takes for the team. There was a lot of tossers in the team last year, but he wasn’t one. So let’s get behind him. |
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Post by Headless Chicken on Jul 27, 2024 9:40:30 GMT 1
When town are signing a player there’s usually a bit of luck to go with it. Simpson had the attributes to fetch £20 Million if he developed. Unfortunately it didn’t come off but i’d take the same gamble again. Some times they come off (like Karlan Grant) and sometimes you just have to move on and take the loss. I wish we could sign guaranteed success but the problem is these types of players don’t tend to grow the resale value. And a club like ours needs to be raising money through player sales. You have to take a chance on potential and part of that equation is the player himself. (I know I sound like Bromby’s burner account right now) A poor man's Akinfenwa. Their playing styles and most of their strengths/weaknesses are totally different. |
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Post by sapphireblue on Jul 27, 2024 9:43:46 GMT 1
Against Harrogate (yes, I know it was only Harrogate)
In the first half they got the ball wide, our left, pulled the ball back to the edge of the area quickly.
They created two goals because no one in our midfield closed off the space centrally.
2nd half and Kasumu did exactly that and prevented goal chances.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2024 9:48:54 GMT 1
Although it’s not really transfer related…….
Kasumu, should be great in rotation with Hogg sitting this season, I am sure the passes will look better with better movement around him and more simple passes to the new midfielders, confidence is a massive part of this and playing in a team that is hopefully winning more and playing with a more attacking intent should help. Many on here seem to think we are still in the championship and if we were still in the Championship then we would need better starting every week. But in L1 players like Kasumu can really stand out and help the team, his driving runs from midfield and energy is something we will need this season in order to be successful.
We need to stop judging players on previous struggling seasons in the championship and let them all have a fresh start in L1, we can’t expect to just have a completely new 11 and we also do not need it a couple more additions and I see no reason why we are not challenging for promotion this season.
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Post by Headless Chicken on Jul 27, 2024 9:52:38 GMT 1
I still think he has a role to play. We don’t need him to be Pirlo. We need him to get around the pitch, win the ball back and stop counter attacks. From a passing perspective we just need him to give it to Kane and Evans. He also showed some ability in receiving the ball from the centre backs, turning and driving forwards (a bit like OBrien) so some of that would be good too. It’s a long season with a lot of games so let’s not go writing him off yet. By all accounts he was decent in League One for MK. Either way, sounds like Kane is pretty immobile and Evans isn't exactly a greyhound either, so he could actually complement them pretty well. He does some of their running, he's left to concentrate on more defensive duties. If our wingback are very attacking, which sounds to be the case, he's also pretty handy for protecting them. He's clearly a bit of a rabbit in the headlights, especially when he runs with the ball, but you don't get complete players in League One. Who knows. |
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Post by dalesterrier on Jul 27, 2024 9:58:27 GMT 1
To be clear having watched him this week, Kane is far from immobile. I know he came with that reputation from Barnsley but that's not what I saw.
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Post by Gold Coast Terrier on Jul 27, 2024 10:04:58 GMT 1
To be clear having watched him this week, Kane is far from immobile. I know he came with that reputation from Barnsley but that's not what I saw. Strikes me as the sort of player that needs his fitness closely managed. But looking at the difference Nichols made in that regard, I back us to get a real tune out of him with a solid pre season. |
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Post by Lovechops on Jul 27, 2024 10:06:37 GMT 1
Thomas still in Austria in pic just posted
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Post by ram on Jul 27, 2024 10:09:28 GMT 1
The fact that no one is coming in for the players we need rid of,shows exactly why we need to get rid of them.They are not very good! Unfortunately if we have to play a season {until most are out of contract} there is little chance we will be anywhere near promotion.
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Post by Headless Chicken on Jul 27, 2024 10:10:28 GMT 1
To be clear having watched him this week, Kane is far from immobile. I know he came with that reputation from Barnsley but that's not what I saw. 🤞 Either way, his strengths are more his natural footballing ability. |
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Post by Henry Mcgee on Jul 27, 2024 10:12:34 GMT 1
Although it’s not really transfer related……. Kasumu, should be great in rotation with Hogg sitting this season, I am sure the passes will look better with better movement around him and more simple passes to the new midfielders, confidence is a massive part of this and playing in a team that is hopefully winning more and playing with a more attacking intent should help. Many on here seem to think we are still in the championship and if we were still in the Championship then we would need better starting every week. But in L1 players like Kasumu can really stand out and help the team, his driving runs from midfield and energy is something we will need this season in order to be successful. We need to stop judging players on previous struggling seasons in the championship and let them all have a fresh start in L1, we can’t expect to just have a completely new 11 and we also do not need it a couple more additions and I see no reason why we are not challenging for promotion this season. I don't know what the quality of league 1 will be like but if we're rotating Hogg & Kasumu as our midfield focal point then lets hope the standard is pretty shit. Kasumu will bring some energy but no quality - not sure what Hogg will bring other than some experience of losing and lots of misplaced simple passes followed by a bollocking to whoever should have been where he passed it. |
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Post by fredcarno1 on Jul 27, 2024 10:24:33 GMT 1
We need Kasumu and think in league 1 he will be fine. Any money we spend now needs to be spent on the front five . It will be there where we pick up extra points. It’s where we lack quality. A striker and a Sorba replacement. That’s the two I think Nagle was referring too. Not sure players who struggle to pass 5 yards are going to be that critical if we are aiming to go up. I know there’s plenty that think Kasumu is a decent player, don’t see it myself. Think he’s absolutely dreadful. |
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Post by dezzly on Jul 27, 2024 10:27:25 GMT 1
We need Kasumu and think in league 1 he will be fine. Any money we spend now needs to be spent on the front five . It will be there where we pick up extra points. It’s where we lack quality. A striker and a Sorba replacement. That’s the two I think Nagle was referring too. Not sure players who struggle to pass 5 yards are going to be that critical if we are aiming to go up. I know there’s plenty that think Kasumu is a decent player, don’t see it myself. Think he’s absolutely dreadful. Think it depends if you’ve seen him play for mk dons.No way he was as bad at passing there as he has been with us but if basing it on his time with us(which is absolutely fine) then yes he’s not been great. Does some things well but I struggle with someone who gives to ball away so regularly and easily |
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Post by terriers2000 on Jul 27, 2024 10:32:15 GMT 1
In English - 🚨#FCN 🟡🟢
🆕 medical examination 🩺 in progress for Sorba Thomas in Nantes. A few details to be resolved between the clubs but nothing blocking
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Post by kjf on Jul 27, 2024 10:43:40 GMT 1
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