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Post by Sio on Jul 29, 2024 10:54:22 GMT 1
42 days until kick off v Posh...6 weeks...over 1,000 hours....... I'm enjoying the good weather in the garden...killing bloody ants... it's therapy I guess... I'm genuinely fascinated to know what date you thought it was
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Post by Venezuelan Pete on Jul 29, 2024 11:00:31 GMT 1
I’m all for being sensible and preaching patience too, but it’s easy to see why people might feel a little misled if you take the window at face value so far. We were promised investment in the squad, but as far as the average fan can see, Birmingham have spent £14m and we’ve spent negative £4m. The signings we have made look decent, the results have been good for pre-season, but the club still doesn’t seem to have learnt that if you say things, people are going to expect you to actually do it. Making something complex very simple, but as it stands we haven’t invested in the playing squad, in fact we have done the opposite. "We've spent negative £4m" is bordering on one of the most ridiculous things posted on this forum (and that's saying something!!) I know you're probably not implying this, but by your logic the transfer window would only be a success if we spent more than the amount we gained from Rudoni, which was never going to happen. "We haven't invested in the playing squad" - yes we have "in fact we have done the opposite" - no we haven't. Just because we sold Rudoni for a high fee doesn't mean that we haven't invested. Is the squad in a better state now compared to the end of last season? Undoubtedly yes - so we have invested.
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Post by Bassingham Terrier on Jul 29, 2024 11:04:47 GMT 1
42 days until kick off v Posh...6 weeks...over 1,000 hours....... I'm enjoying the good weather in the garden...killing bloody ants... it's therapy I guess... I'm genuinely fascinated to know what date you thought it was I'd hazard a guess that he meant the closing of the transfer window.
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Post by htafcokay on Jul 29, 2024 11:11:11 GMT 1
who does the medical? Is it externals? If not, all the key medical team are in Austria. Possibly waiting on there return? Rhodes medical a few years ago No footage of Andy Rhodes throwing his weight around in the office?
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Post by detox on Jul 29, 2024 11:18:21 GMT 1
42 days until kick off v Posh...6 weeks...over 1,000 hours....... I'm enjoying the good weather in the garden...killing bloody ants... it's therapy I guess... I'm genuinely fascinated to know what date you thought it was I'm still in June, it appears....
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Post by detox on Jul 29, 2024 11:20:07 GMT 1
I'm genuinely fascinated to know what date you thought it was I'd hazard a guess that he meant the closing of the transfer window. I wish I could say that.......
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Post by allan 1958 (OAF-WROY)(SSLFF) on Jul 29, 2024 11:24:07 GMT 1
Oh shite, you're right! Panic Panic Panic Pyke I won't tell you again
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Post by thomo on Jul 29, 2024 11:28:52 GMT 1
Used to being disappointed in the transfer market. Who would be actually be surprised if our first eleven and bench looks like the below come September after failing to land our targets and allowing some of our better players to leave the week before the transfer window closes:
Maxwell Sorenson Lees Pearson Ruffels Miller Hogg Evans Kane Ward (Healey injured long term) Koroma
Bench Kasumu Harrat Hudlin Turton Jones Chapman
Now that would be a thoroughly depressing sight but just a continuation of the shit show we've had to endure for several years. That would have mid table mediocrity written all over it.
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Post by theterrier42 on Jul 29, 2024 11:34:59 GMT 1
Used to being disappointed in the transfer market. Who would be actually be surprised if our first eleven and bench looks like the below come September after failing to land our targets and allowing some of our better players to leave the week before the transfer window closes: Maxwell Sorenson Lees Pearson Ruffels Miller Hogg Evans Kane Ward (Healey injured long term) Koroma Bench Kasumu Harrat Hudlin Turton Jones Chapman Now that would be a thoroughly depressing sight but just a continuation of the shit show we've had to endure for several years. That would have mid table mediocrity written all over it. That’s based on the worst set of events possible and us not signing any one else. Take it you’re a glass half empty type of guy 😂
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Post by araucaria on Jul 29, 2024 11:36:44 GMT 1
Used to being disappointed in the transfer market. Who would be actually be surprised if our first eleven and bench looks like the below come September after failing to land our targets and allowing some of our better players to leave the week before the transfer window closes: Maxwell Sorenson Lees Pearson Ruffels Miller Hogg Evans Kane Ward (Healey injured long term) Koroma Bench Kasumu Harrat Hudlin Turton Jones Chapman Now that would be a thoroughly depressing sight but just a continuation of the shit show we've had to endure for several years. That would have mid table mediocrity written all over it. Cheer up: you’ve left a place on the bench for High or Austerfield.
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Post by crux on Jul 29, 2024 11:38:25 GMT 1
Used to being disappointed in the transfer market. Who would be actually be surprised if our first eleven and bench looks like the below come September after failing to land our targets and allowing some of our better players to leave the week before the transfer window closes: Maxwell Sorenson Lees Pearson Ruffels Miller Hogg Evans Kane Ward (Healey injured long term) Koroma Bench Kasumu Harrat Hudlin Turton Jones Chapman Now that would be a thoroughly depressing sight but just a continuation of the shit show we've had to endure for several years. That would have mid table mediocrity written all over it. That’s based on the worst set of events possible and us not signing any one else. Take it you’re a glass half empty type of guy 😂 More like a 'what fucking glass' type of guy 😉
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Post by drayltonboy (independent) on Jul 29, 2024 11:46:38 GMT 1
Used to being disappointed in the transfer market. Who would be actually be surprised if our first eleven and bench looks like the below come September after failing to land our targets and allowing some of our better players to leave the week before the transfer window closes: Maxwell Sorenson Lees Pearson Ruffels Miller Hogg Evans Kane Ward (Healey injured long term) Koroma Bench Kasumu Harrat Hudlin Turton Jones Chapman Not anticipating any loans in then? Now that would be a thoroughly depressing sight but just a continuation of the shit show we've had to endure for several years. That would have mid table mediocrity written all over it.
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Post by TomTheTerrier on Jul 29, 2024 11:47:51 GMT 1
I’m all for being sensible and preaching patience too, but it’s easy to see why people might feel a little misled if you take the window at face value so far. We were promised investment in the squad, but as far as the average fan can see, Birmingham have spent £14m and we’ve spent negative £4m. The signings we have made look decent, the results have been good for pre-season, but the club still doesn’t seem to have learnt that if you say things, people are going to expect you to actually do it. Making something complex very simple, but as it stands we haven’t invested in the playing squad, in fact we have done the opposite. "We've spent negative £4m" is bordering on one of the most ridiculous things posted on this forum (and that's saying something!!) I know you're probably not implying this, but by your logic the transfer window would only be a success if we spent more than the amount we gained from Rudoni, which was never going to happen. "We haven't invested in the playing squad" - yes we have "in fact we have done the opposite" - no we haven't. Just because we sold Rudoni for a high fee doesn't mean that we haven't invested. Is the squad in a better state now compared to the end of last season? Undoubtedly yes - so we have invested. Yeah my post is not necessarily ‘my view’ specifically but I can sympathise with people who may see it that way, given what has been said by the club and what Birmingham, who are in an almost identical scenario to us, have done. I would say though that if we want to claim we’ve invested in the squad we should be looking at having a net negative transfer outlay. I don’t think it’s unfair to expect us to spend the Rudoni cash back on the squad, if our ambition is to go straight back up. Charlton, as an example, have spent more than they received for Alfie May, and over recent years they’ve barely had a pot to piss in. I don’t think it’s necessarily unreasonable to expect we demonstrate a level of financial heft in this division, given the competition, our ownership, and where we’ve been in the last 5-10 years vs most other clubs we’re competing with. I’m not knocking the business that’s been done by the way - I think it’s good business, and the squad looks like it could be competitive in L1. But if this is all we intend to do then I’ll be pretty disappointed (unless of course Duff is happy with what he has, in which case that’s his call)
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Post by Venezuelan Pete on Jul 29, 2024 11:47:59 GMT 1
Used to being disappointed in the transfer market. Who would be actually be surprised if our first eleven and bench looks like the below come September after failing to land our targets and allowing some of our better players to leave the week before the transfer window closes: Maxwell Sorenson Lees Pearson Ruffels Miller Hogg Evans Kane Ward (Healey injured long term) Koroma Bench Kasumu Harrat Hudlin Turton Jones Chapman Now that would be a thoroughly depressing sight but just a continuation of the shit show we've had to endure for several years. That would have mid table mediocrity written all over it. That’s based on the worst set of events possible and us not signing any one else. Take it you’re a glass half empty type of guy 😂 Only a Town fan could invent a hypothetical set of circumstances and get angry over it.
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Post by theterrier42 on Jul 29, 2024 11:49:55 GMT 1
That’s based on the worst set of events possible and us not signing any one else. Take it you’re a glass half empty type of guy 😂 Only a Town fan could invent a hypothetical set of circumstances and get angry over it. I thought I was negative, but that’s a whole new level 😂
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Post by dalesterrier on Jul 29, 2024 11:58:08 GMT 1
"We've spent negative £4m" is bordering on one of the most ridiculous things posted on this forum (and that's saying something!!) I know you're probably not implying this, but by your logic the transfer window would only be a success if we spent more than the amount we gained from Rudoni, which was never going to happen. "We haven't invested in the playing squad" - yes we have "in fact we have done the opposite" - no we haven't. Just because we sold Rudoni for a high fee doesn't mean that we haven't invested. Is the squad in a better state now compared to the end of last season? Undoubtedly yes - so we have invested. Yeah my post is not necessarily ‘my view’ specifically but I can sympathise with people who may see it that way, given what has been said by the club and what Birmingham, who are in an almost identical scenario to us, have done. I would say though that if we want to claim we’ve invested in the squad we should be looking at having a net negative transfer outlay. I don’t think it’s unfair to expect us to spend the Rudoni cash back on the squad, if our ambition is to go straight back up. Charlton, as an example, have spent more than they received for Alfie May, and over recent years they’ve barely had a pot to piss in. I don’t think it’s necessarily unreasonable to expect we demonstrate a level of financial heft in this division, given the competition, our ownership, and where we’ve been in the last 5-10 years vs most other clubs we’re competing with. I’m not knocking the business that’s been done by the way - I think it’s good business, and the squad looks like it could be competitive in L1. But if this is all we intend to do then I’ll be pretty disappointed (unless of course Duff is happy with what he has, in which case that’s his call) Having listened to and chatted with MD in Austria, his ambition is very clear this season... promotion
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Post by thomo on Jul 29, 2024 11:59:58 GMT 1
Used to being disappointed in the transfer market. Who would be actually be surprised if our first eleven and bench looks like the below come September after failing to land our targets and allowing some of our better players to leave the week before the transfer window closes: Maxwell Sorenson Lees Pearson Ruffels Miller Hogg Evans Kane Ward (Healey injured long term) Koroma Bench Kasumu Harrat Hudlin Turton Jones Chapman Now that would be a thoroughly depressing sight but just a continuation of the shit show we've had to endure for several years. That would have mid table mediocrity written all over it. That’s based on the worst set of events possible and us not signing any one else. Take it you’re a glass half empty type of guy 😂 With town I think it's a distinct possibility
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Post by COWSHEDPHIL on Jul 29, 2024 12:00:03 GMT 1
Two decent signings plus keep Helik and Nicholls and we have a chance of the league
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Post by htafcokay on Jul 29, 2024 12:41:29 GMT 1
I can't wait until the January window, when it'll be declared as the "best ever". Again.
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Post by thomo on Jul 29, 2024 13:00:19 GMT 1
Two decent signings plus keep Helik and Nicholls and we have a chance of the league Is it out of the question to get Helik, Nicholls and Spencer tied down to longer deals to get rid of this uncertainty? I note Brum managed to get Bielik to sign a new contract. I'm sure if you're able to demonstrate enough ambition you can get better players to stick around in league one.
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Post by 2ellandback on Jul 29, 2024 13:09:40 GMT 1
That’s based on the worst set of events possible and us not signing any one else. Take it you’re a glass half empty type of guy 😂 Only a Town fan could invent a hypothetical set of circumstances and get angry over it. Reminds me of this sketch.
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Post by bells ringing :) on Jul 29, 2024 13:38:23 GMT 1
Anyways lets move away from, A) slagging the current squad off and B) Will it be 1 or 2 sigings this week?
I do feel there is a different atompshere around the squad currently, comparing it to the end of last season. Duff seems to have got everybody back on a level par, which i feel may have helped those wanting to"leave" to now thinking actually i would stay. I think a lot of the players became disalousied by the lack of proper leadership at the club. Duff seems to have brought that, which may help which as of now seems to have helped the squad enviorment.
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Post by teesdaleterrier on Jul 29, 2024 13:44:27 GMT 1
Not seen the games in anything other than highlight form but what is this about Spencer having a poor attitude, seems not arsed that a a couple have mentioned?
Has his stock rise to fame got Jack Hunt vibes?
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Post by pterrier on Jul 29, 2024 13:47:25 GMT 1
Not seen the games in anything other than highlight form but what is this about Spencer having a poor attitude, seems not arsed that a a couple have mentioned? Has his stock rise to fame got Jack Hunt vibes? If anyone is saying that it’s more nonsense
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Post by pterrier on Jul 29, 2024 13:47:39 GMT 1
Not seen the games in anything other than highlight form but what is this about Spencer having a poor attitude, seems not arsed that a a couple have mentioned? Has his stock rise to fame got Jack Hunt vibes? If anyone is saying that it’s more nonsense
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Post by hoggy1975 on Jul 29, 2024 13:49:17 GMT 1
Not seen the games in anything other than highlight form but what is this about Spencer having a poor attitude, seems not arsed that a a couple have mentioned? Has his stock rise to fame got Jack Hunt vibes? Only duncfost has mentioned it. His attitude has been fine.
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Jul 29, 2024 13:51:17 GMT 1
Not seen the games in anything other than highlight form but what is this about Spencer having a poor attitude, seems not arsed that a a couple have mentioned? Has his stock rise to fame got Jack Hunt vibes? If anyone is saying that it’s more nonsense Nonsense? On DATM? Never…. 😉
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Post by four4two on Jul 29, 2024 14:07:57 GMT 1
Spencer has been playing in a back 3, which is not his natural position. It's really not suited to him. Think it may have been trialled in Austria due to the injury to Baulker. Duncan is way out on the attitude thing. The poor attitude players have gone.
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Post by mosher on Jul 29, 2024 14:23:49 GMT 1
Anyways lets move away from, A) slagging the current squad off and B) Will it be 1 or 2 sigings this week? I do feel there is a different atompshere around the squad currently, comparing it to the end of last season. Duff seems to have got everybody back on a level par, which i feel may have helped those wanting to"leave" to now thinking actually i would stay. I think a lot of the players became disalousied by the lack of proper leadership at the club. Duff seems to have brought that, which may help which as of now seems to have helped the squad enviorment. Become what? Is that what nit shampoo is for?
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Post by bells ringing :) on Jul 29, 2024 14:25:38 GMT 1
Anyways lets move away from, A) slagging the current squad off and B) Will it be 1 or 2 sigings this week? I do feel there is a different atompshere around the squad currently, comparing it to the end of last season. Duff seems to have got everybody back on a level par, which i feel may have helped those wanting to"leave" to now thinking actually i would stay. I think a lot of the players became disalousied by the lack of proper leadership at the club. Duff seems to have brought that, which may help which as of now seems to have helped the squad enviorment. Become what? Is that what nit shampoo is for? disillusioned sorry typo BIG one lol.
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