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Post by htafcdan on Jul 29, 2024 15:10:37 GMT 1
few people on twitter seem to think we are front runners for taylor atm but i doubt that. would think it is a champ club like derby/oxford
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Post by bells ringing :) on Jul 29, 2024 15:14:20 GMT 1
few people on twitter seem to think we are front runners for taylor atm but i doubt that. would think it is a champ club like derby/oxford depends if the yare intersted in the first place, but also the offer town are putting on the table to both player and club. Also who is offering a gaurnteed first team starter place , which i feel we would be doing.
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Post by artysid on Jul 29, 2024 15:16:41 GMT 1
few people on twitter seem to think we are front runners for taylor atm but i doubt that. would think it is a champ club like derby/oxford So you think Luton would consider it more beneficial to them if they let him go to one of their rivals? - a bit like the Simpson scenario I suppose.
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Post by dezzly on Jul 29, 2024 15:20:56 GMT 1
I just can’t get my head round why we seemingly take so long to get transfers done once we’re in for them. I hate been negative but just smacks of penny pinching,which we’re told wouldn’t be an issue. Just get the lad in(Taylor that is),if it’s loan to buy even better he’s clearly going to be worth a fair amount of cash in a few years time.🤷🏻
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Post by pauldaltonsboots on Jul 29, 2024 15:26:03 GMT 1
Spencer is a quality player but guess what…he is a young guy, only turned 20years old this year, and young players have ups and downs in form.
It’s all about competitive matches and his attitude and performances have been generally very good.
Personally I think RB in a back 4 or RCB in a back 3 are/will be his best positions - quick, can tackle, decent in the air. At the moment whilst neat and tidy with the ball and more than enough quality, he doesn’t look like an attacking wing-back who will create and score loads, but he is a young lad so that might change.
Not comparing them in terms of quality but he is very similar in his skill set to Kyle Walker
I hope he stays, even if just one more season as enjoy watching him and a big player for us.
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Post by rockwall on Jul 29, 2024 15:44:27 GMT 1
Spencer is a quality player but guess what…he is a young guy, only turned 20years old this year, and young players have ups and downs in form. It’s all about competitive matches and his attitude and performances have been generally very good. Personally I think RB in a back 4 or RCB in a back 3 are/will be his best positions - quick, can tackle, decent in the air. At the moment whilst neat and tidy with the ball and more than enough quality, he doesn’t look like an attacking wing-back who will create and score loads, but he is a young lad so that might change. Not comparing them in terms of quality but he is very similar in his skill set to Kyle Walker I hope he stays, even if just one more season as enjoy watching him and a big player for us. Nothing like Walker. Walker is quicker, stronger, amd can drive forward. I feel a hell of a lot of expectation is being put on Spencers shoulders. Before his loan move he was shocking. He came back and looked much better in a poor team. The boy is still learning. He will make a few mistakes, but the potential is clearly there.
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Post by incognito on Jul 29, 2024 15:48:03 GMT 1
I just can’t get my head round why we seemingly take so long to get transfers done once we’re in for them. I hate been negative but just smacks of penny pinching,which we’re told wouldn’t be an issue. Just get the lad in(Taylor that is),if it’s loan to buy even better he’s clearly going to be worth a fair amount of cash in a few years time.🤷🏻 Ultimately all we've got is a vague, throwaway sentence in the middle of an Alan Nixon article about Dom Ballard. Anything beyond that is just (more) internet noise and peoples' imaginations. Nothing to do with HTAFC. Any of the interested "pack" may need to be patient: it wouldn't surprise me if Luton's decision on him were to come quite late in the window according to what other business they do between now and then.
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Post by bluesandtwos on Jul 29, 2024 16:29:16 GMT 1
I just can’t get my head round why we seemingly take so long to get transfers done once we’re in for them. I hate been negative but just smacks of penny pinching,which we’re told wouldn’t be an issue. Just get the lad in(Taylor that is),if it’s loan to buy even better he’s clearly going to be worth a fair amount of cash in a few years time.🤷🏻 If they are good players they will have options, as Alfie May did. We will be weighed up, by the club and the player, and they will be in no rush. As others have said it may be down to them getting the players in they want.
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Post by harri54 on Jul 29, 2024 16:32:39 GMT 1
"We've spent negative £4m" is bordering on one of the most ridiculous things posted on this forum (and that's saying something!!) I know you're probably not implying this, but by your logic the transfer window would only be a success if we spent more than the amount we gained from Rudoni, which was never going to happen. "We haven't invested in the playing squad" - yes we have "in fact we have done the opposite" - no we haven't. Just because we sold Rudoni for a high fee doesn't mean that we haven't invested. Is the squad in a better state now compared to the end of last season? Undoubtedly yes - so we have invested. Yeah my post is not necessarily ‘my view’ specifically but I can sympathise with people who may see it that way, given what has been said by the club and what Birmingham, who are in an almost identical scenario to us, have done. I would say though that if we want to claim we’ve invested in the squad we should be looking at having a net negative transfer outlay. I don’t think it’s unfair to expect us to spend the Rudoni cash back on the squad, if our ambition is to go straight back up. Charlton, as an example, have spent more than they received for Alfie May, and over recent years they’ve barely had a pot to piss in. I don’t think it’s necessarily unreasonable to expect we demonstrate a level of financial heft in this division, given the competition, our ownership, and where we’ve been in the last 5-10 years vs most other clubs we’re competing with. I’m not knocking the business that’s been done by the way - I think it’s good business, and the squad looks like it could be competitive in L1. But if this is all we intend to do then I’ll be pretty disappointed (unless of course Duff is happy with what he has, in which case that’s his call) If you invest £1 of income you have invested! If invest more than your income you are taking a risk at a level of stupidity that is proven time & time again! Sustainability is a sensible approach that can be considered over an extended time frame, not within one year/season/window.
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Post by ezzie on Jul 29, 2024 16:32:52 GMT 1
Hull offering £2.5M for Thomas-Asante from WBA😂 Splash the same on Taylor please Town!
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Post by pauldaltonsboots on Jul 29, 2024 16:50:12 GMT 1
Spencer is a quality player but guess what…he is a young guy, only turned 20years old this year, and young players have ups and downs in form. It’s all about competitive matches and his attitude and performances have been generally very good. Personally I think RB in a back 4 or RCB in a back 3 are/will be his best positions - quick, can tackle, decent in the air. At the moment whilst neat and tidy with the ball and more than enough quality, he doesn’t look like an attacking wing-back who will create and score loads, but he is a young lad so that might change. Not comparing them in terms of quality but he is very similar in his skill set to Kyle Walker I hope he stays, even if just one more season as enjoy watching him and a big player for us. Nothing like Walker. Walker is quicker, stronger, amd can drive forward. I feel a hell of a lot of expectation is being put on Spencers shoulders. Before his loan move he was shocking. He came back and looked much better in a poor team. The boy is still learning. He will make a few mistakes, but the potential is clearly there. I clearly said not in terms of quality yet but I am referencing the type of player Spencer appears to be is more of a Kyle Walker type than say a Trent AA or a Cancelo type full-back/defender. So many different types of full-back these days and from what I have seen so far - fits more the Walker mould than other types of FB. As in Walker doesn’t get many goals / assists or/and isn’t a CM type full back - he is a defender and good at it in a back 3 or back 4. Thanks for pointing out not as fast or strong as Walker 😂😂😂 Phew, I thought we were going to lose him to Man City this summer but pleased you have cleared that up
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Post by bells ringing :) on Jul 29, 2024 17:42:41 GMT 1
Hull offering £2.5M for Thomas-Asante from WBA😂 Splash the same on Taylor please Town! behave yourself, town will never spend 2mil on a player in league 1 , it would be madness to do so.
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Post by shawsie on Jul 29, 2024 17:53:06 GMT 1
I just can’t get my head round why we seemingly take so long to get transfers done once we’re in for them. I hate been negative but just smacks of penny pinching,which we’re told wouldn’t be an issue. Just get the lad in(Taylor that is),if it’s loan to buy even better he’s clearly going to be worth a fair amount of cash in a few years time.🤷🏻 Irs ever more complex now. The lad will probably have been told youre going on loan but only when we get a replacement. That takes time as clubs jostle for position within the window. Bookies odds now change hugely after the window shuts cos so many clubs do late deals trying to steal a march ...
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Post by jqhtfc on Jul 29, 2024 17:54:00 GMT 1
Hull offering £2.5M for Thomas-Asante from WBA😂 Splash the same on Taylor please Town! behave yourself, town will never spend 2mil on a player in league 1 , it would be madness to do so. I mean it wouldn’t be if it was the right player and we had the money too.
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Post by bells ringing :) on Jul 29, 2024 17:55:59 GMT 1
behave yourself, town will never spend 2mil on a player in league 1 , it would be madness to do so. I mean it wouldn’t be if it was the right player and we had the money too. I don't doubt we have the money, to pay 2 mil for a player. the question is in league 1 , should we ? almost no defo not , unless the player is an absoulte no brainer. As in this league , to pay 2mil and wages for a player, if you do not get promoted you can get stuck with said player without ever getting much back.
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Post by htafcokay on Jul 29, 2024 18:04:52 GMT 1
behave yourself, town will never spend 2mil on a player in league 1 , it would be madness to do so. I mean it wouldn’t be if it was the right player and we had the money too. We have a billionaire owner who said he was going to invest. If you want decent players then you should be prepared to pay the going rate.
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Post by hoggy1975 on Jul 29, 2024 18:09:39 GMT 1
I mean it wouldn’t be if it was the right player and we had the money too. I don't doubt we have the money, to pay 2 mil for a player. the question is in league 1 , should we ? almost no defo not , unless the player is an absoulte no brainer. As in this league , to pay 2mil and wages for a player, if you do not get promoted you can get stuck with said player without ever getting much back. Joe Taylor is 21 and scored 20 goals last year. We bid nearly a million for Alfie may who would have little re-sale value. A good year for Taylor in league one and we’d easily get the 2 million back IMO. If we get promoted we have someone ready to step up.
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Post by bells ringing :) on Jul 29, 2024 18:12:36 GMT 1
I mean it wouldn’t be if it was the right player and we had the money too. We have a billionaire owner who said he was going to invest. If you want decent players then you should be prepared to pay the going rate. Yes we do , we do indeed, but there also still rules to comply with even in league 1. In January we spent over a million if not just under 2 mil for Balker and over a million for Bojan. The window is not shut yet and i expect we will sign more players. The deals we have done to date are good ones imo. The next signings will probs the ones we pay the cash for / big or bigger fees for . Plus if/ when Sorba leaves that will free up wages to go with the fees.
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Post by htafcokay on Jul 29, 2024 18:15:04 GMT 1
We have a billionaire owner who said he was going to invest. If you want decent players then you should be prepared to pay the going rate. Yes we do , we do indeed, but there also still rules to comply with even in league 1. In January we spent over a million if not just under 2 mil for Balker and over a million for Bojan. The window is not shut yet and i expect we will sign more players. The deals we have done to date are good ones imo. The next signings will probs the ones we pay the cash for / big or bigger fees for . Plus if/ when Sorba leaves that will free up wages to go with the fees. Don't Birmingham have to abide by the rules then?
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Post by terriersyndrome on Jul 29, 2024 18:16:36 GMT 1
Hull offering £2.5M for Thomas-Asante from WBA😂 Splash the same on Taylor please Town! Only four times has a transfer in league 1 been over £2m, two of those we're made by brum this season. The other two were Grigg and Brayford at Sunderland and Sheff U. We didn't pay £2m for anyone in the Championship last season, can't see it happening now we're relegated. Nagle will be just trying to balance the books after the shitshow last season.
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Post by duncfost01 on Jul 29, 2024 18:18:56 GMT 1
Spencer has been playing in a back 3, which is not his natural position. It's really not suited to him. Think it may have been trialled in Austria due to the injury to Baulker. Duncan is way out on the attitude thing. The poor attitude players have gone. Where did I say anything about attitude ? I simply said he looked pissed off and questioned as to whether he wasn't trying ? I didnt say he was it was a question.
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Post by bells ringing :) on Jul 29, 2024 18:21:04 GMT 1
Hull offering £2.5M for Thomas-Asante from WBA😂 Splash the same on Taylor please Town! Only four times has a transfer in league 1 been over £2m, two of those we're made by brum this season. The other two were Grigg and Brayford at Sunderland and Sheff U. We didn't pay £2m for anyone in the Championship last season, can't see it happening now we're relegated. Nagle will be just trying to balance the books after the shitshow last season. If Cartwright is to be believed , then yes we did or very close to it in Balker in January . He stated that it was the most we had paid for a defender outside the prem years, Schindler was 1.8 m therefore logically Balker is either 1.9 or 2mil ? What i am saying is that just because we have money, does not mean we have to blow our load on loads of signings. Brum are doing this, basically if they do not win the league as a result , then its a huge failure. We can still sign good players without blowing all the money all at once in one window so to speak. Thus far we have signed some good players without going crazy, i think the "bigger" moves may take longer to complete for obvs reasons.
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Post by ezzie on Jul 29, 2024 18:22:46 GMT 1
Hull offering £2.5M for Thomas-Asante from WBA😂 Splash the same on Taylor please Town! behave yourself, town will never spend 2mil on a player in league 1 , it would be madness to do so. ‘Behave yourself’. You’re so behind the current times it’s absurd. Charlton Athletic spent £1.1m+ on a striker this window. Get a grip yourself. Growth requires investment. Small minded mentality
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Post by jqhtfc on Jul 29, 2024 18:23:20 GMT 1
I mean it wouldn’t be if it was the right player and we had the money too. We have a billionaire owner who said he was going to invest. If you want decent players then you should be prepared to pay the going rate. That’s what I’m sort of getting at it’s not madness at all if the money is available and it’s a player you think will make a major impact on your season especially given the ffp rules are different in league 1 so essentially Nagle if he wanted too could do it.
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Post by Up the Duff. on Jul 29, 2024 18:25:44 GMT 1
We have a billionaire owner who said he was going to invest. If you want decent players then you should be prepared to pay the going rate. Yes we do , we do indeed, but there also still rules to comply with even in league 1. In January we spent over a million if not just under 2 mil for Balker and over a million for Bojan. The window is not shut yet and i expect we will sign more players. The deals we have done to date are good ones imo. The next signings will probs the ones we pay the cash for / big or bigger fees for . Plus if/ when Sorba leaves that will free up wages to go with the fees. 2m and 1m.. did we really? I doubt that.
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Post by terriersyndrome on Jul 29, 2024 18:28:40 GMT 1
Only four times has a transfer in league 1 been over £2m, two of those we're made by brum this season. The other two were Grigg and Brayford at Sunderland and Sheff U. We didn't pay £2m for anyone in the Championship last season, can't see it happening now we're relegated. Nagle will be just trying to balance the books after the shitshow last season. If Cartwright is to be believed , then yes we did or very close to it in Balker in January . He stated that it was the most we had paid for a defender outside the prem years, Schindler was 1.8 m therefore logically Balker is either 1.9 or 2mil ? What i am saying is that just because we have money, does not mean we have to blow our load on loads of signings. Brum are doing this, basically if they do not win the league as a result , then its a huge failure. We can still sign good players without blowing all the money all at once in one window so to speak. Thus far we have signed some good players without going crazy, i think the "bigger" moves may take longer to complete for obvs reasons. €1.3m according to Dutch reports at the time.
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Post by Up the Duff. on Jul 29, 2024 18:31:46 GMT 1
Yorkshire folk being tight with their own money is what they say. Alot of our fans are tight with a billionaire's money too... ffs splash 5m on transfers kev, let's get out of this league first time of asking. Rudoni money will soothe the blow.
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Post by Up the Duff. on Jul 29, 2024 18:32:25 GMT 1
If Cartwright is to be believed , then yes we did or very close to it in Balker in January . He stated that it was the most we had paid for a defender outside the prem years, Schindler was 1.8 m therefore logically Balker is either 1.9 or 2mil ? What i am saying is that just because we have money, does not mean we have to blow our load on loads of signings. Brum are doing this, basically if they do not win the league as a result , then its a huge failure. We can still sign good players without blowing all the money all at once in one window so to speak. Thus far we have signed some good players without going crazy, i think the "bigger" moves may take longer to complete for obvs reasons. €1.3m according to Dutch reports at the time. more like it... and euros. 👍
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Post by bells ringing :) on Jul 29, 2024 18:45:09 GMT 1
If Cartwright is to be believed , then yes we did or very close to it in Balker in January . He stated that it was the most we had paid for a defender outside the prem years, Schindler was 1.8 m therefore logically Balker is either 1.9 or 2mil ? What i am saying is that just because we have money, does not mean we have to blow our load on loads of signings. Brum are doing this, basically if they do not win the league as a result , then its a huge failure. We can still sign good players without blowing all the money all at once in one window so to speak. Thus far we have signed some good players without going crazy, i think the "bigger" moves may take longer to complete for obvs reasons. €1.3m according to Dutch reports at the time. All i am going off is what Cartwright actually said you know that incredible sporting director we have , the guy with the links all over the place and oversaw such an incredible winter window and this almost certs to be yet again an incredible summer window. You know that guy ? Or was it Bojan who was the most expensive cf signing outside the prem years either way we paid good money for the pair. Kev said as people have rightly pointed out , that investment will be made in the squad. At the end of the window we can call it out if he does not , but the window has not shut yet so there is still time for further investment in players is there not ?
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Post by terriersyndrome on Jul 29, 2024 18:57:40 GMT 1
€1.3m according to Dutch reports at the time. All i am going off is what Cartwright actually said you know that incredible sporting director we have , the guy with the links all over the place and oversaw such an incredible winter window and this almost certs to be yet again an incredible summer window. You know that guy ? Or was it Bojan who was the most expensive cf signing outside the prem years either way we paid good money for the pair. Kev said as people have rightly pointed out , that investment will be made in the squad. At the end of the window we can call it out if he does not , but the window has not shut yet so there is still time for further investment in players is there not ? Hyping up the window. www.weareterriers.com/p/huddersfield-town-radinio-balker-transfer
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