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Post by bells ringing :) on May 30, 2024 14:06:25 GMT 1
They're buying shite though. We can do that as well as anyone. aren't we the experts in buying "shite" ?
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Post by bells ringing :) on May 30, 2024 14:07:48 GMT 1
I think people are seeing what Rotherham are doing and thinking why can't we ? I understand it, but it depends on the level of quaility we are looking at i suppose. They're buying shite though. Depends on what you class as "shite" as people panic, as others are doing things. From what i have seen, non of the players so far, that have moved, would i have in our team ? No , not at all. But people worry about seeing teams doing things.
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on May 30, 2024 14:16:14 GMT 1
I thought the plan was to act early in the transfer market?.........how come no signings yet? Early as in before the start of pre-season training, which doesn't start until the back end of June. A lot of players will be on their jollies just now.
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Post by Baby Ate My Eight Ball on May 30, 2024 14:53:49 GMT 1
We might have signed players already, but don't yet want to announce replacements for players we are negotiating to sell (unlikely but possible).
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Post by ldotm on May 30, 2024 15:12:48 GMT 1
Who do we want? The best players in League One. When do we want them? Now.
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Post by delroy on May 30, 2024 15:17:46 GMT 1
They're buying shite though. Depends on what you class as "shite" as people panic, as others are doing things. From what i have seen, non of the players so far, that have moved, would i have in our team ? No , not at all. But people worry about seeing teams doing things. Many people confuse taking action with making progress. It's only progress if the action is sensible and constructive.
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Post by boooothy on May 30, 2024 15:30:22 GMT 1
Town and Birmingham will have the pick of any player going to a Division 3 club. It’s safe to say any player that signs for any of the other 22 clubs, we didn’t want them.
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Post by mosher on May 30, 2024 15:36:40 GMT 1
Depends on what you class as "shite" as people panic, as others are doing things. From what i have seen, non of the players so far, that have moved, would i have in our team ? No , not at all. But people worry about seeing teams doing things. Many people confuse taking action with making progress. It's only progress if the action is sensible and constructive. A quote I read (and posted on another thread a while ago) was: Progress isn't about speed, it's about direction. Or words to that effect.
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Post by kirkheatonterrier on May 30, 2024 15:42:46 GMT 1
Town and Birmingham will have the pick of any player going to a Division 3 club. It’s safe to say any player that signs for any of the other 22 clubs, we didn’t want them.
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Post by gowlinggoal on May 30, 2024 15:51:22 GMT 1
Re Balker, I love the way people are presuming we can shift him on. There were no reports that anyone competed with us just 4 months ago to sign him, he's signed a decent length of contract and has barely played since. Why would anyone suddenly be looking at him now? Similarly with Bojan and Healey. Helik, Sorba, Nicholls and Spencer much more likely to move IMO. I agree on Helik, Sorba, Nicholls and Spencer (the individual most likely to go to the PL) but I expect Bojan, Balker and Healey's agents (along with the agents of all our players) will be hawking them around europe (and the Championship) to try to get a payday.
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Post by gowlinggoal on May 30, 2024 15:54:40 GMT 1
Town and Birmingham will have the pick of any player going to a Division 3 club. It’s safe to say any player that signs for any of the other 22 clubs, we didn’t want them. I don't think you should ignore Wrexham, their celebrity means that the players that want to be famous won't
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Post by runner76 on May 30, 2024 15:57:37 GMT 1
I don't think you should ignore Wrexham, their celebrity means that the players that want to be famous won't ...and Wycombe with their multi-billionnaire owner and not being too far from London town....
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Post by bells ringing :) on May 30, 2024 16:05:30 GMT 1
I don't think you should ignore Wrexham, their celebrity means that the players that want to be famous won't ...and Wycombe with their multi-billionnaire owner and not being too far from London town.... I think the point trying to be made , is us and Brum are the tradional "bigger clubs" with the wealiest owner/owners.
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Post by goodbet on May 30, 2024 16:13:56 GMT 1
Depends on what you class as "shite" as people panic, as others are doing things. From what i have seen, non of the players so far, that have moved, would i have in our team ? No , not at all. But people worry about seeing teams doing things. Many people confuse taking action with making progress. It's only progress if the action is sensible and constructive. Correct! We don't want a repeat of the January window.
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Post by runner76 on May 30, 2024 16:15:40 GMT 1
...and Wycombe with their multi-billionnaire owner and not being too far from London town.... I think the point trying to be made , is us and Brum are the tradional "bigger clubs" with the wealiest owner/owners. ...and the point of the reply is there are other clubs that may have even wealthier owners and be equally or more attractive for various reasons
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Post by bells ringing :) on May 30, 2024 16:31:23 GMT 1
I think the point trying to be made , is us and Brum are the tradional "bigger clubs" with the wealiest owner/owners. ...and the point of the reply is there are other clubs that may have even wealthier owners and be equally or more attractive for various reasons wrexham ? would anyone want to live in Wrexham ? i was brought up a bit not far from there, its a shhhhh hole lol, brum ok but others ? Wycombe have a billionaire owner yes, but the ability to finace big moves , is not there compared to us. Our owner if you believe reports is the wealthiest owner , not just in league 1, but outside the prem in some papers / media outlets you read on his finincal means. As far as i am concered there is zero excuses now, the fiance is there , the history is there etc etc for us to compete at this level.
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Post by goodbet on May 30, 2024 16:36:14 GMT 1
I think the point trying to be made , is us and Brum are the tradional "bigger clubs" with the wealiest owner/owners. ...and the point of the reply is there are other clubs that may have even wealthier owners and be equally or more attractive for various reasons At the moment we are not the best run club and our last manager said that we had bad eggs in the team, so we will not look too appealing to most players. I guess it would take one good signing to show that we have real intent to get back to the Championship asap. This will highlight to everyone we mean business. Without it we may still be viewed as a club in crysis.
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Post by rockwall on May 30, 2024 16:38:30 GMT 1
...and the point of the reply is there are other clubs that may have even wealthier owners and be equally or more attractive for various reasons wrexham ? would anyone want to live in Wrexham ? i was brought up a bit not far from there, its a shhhhh hole lol, brum ok but others ? Wycombe have a billionaire owner yes, but the ability to finace big moves , is not there compared to us. Our owner if you believe reports is the wealthiest owner , not just in league 1, but outside the prem in some papers / media outlets you read on his finincal means. As far as i am concered there is zero excuses now, the fiance is there , the history is there etc etc for us to compete at this level.
Hope she's having a lovely time wherever she is.
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Post by bells ringing :) on May 30, 2024 16:40:09 GMT 1
wrexham ? would anyone want to live in Wrexham ? i was brought up a bit not far from there, its a shhhhh hole lol, brum ok but others ? Wycombe have a billionaire owner yes, but the ability to finace big moves , is not there compared to us. Our owner if you believe reports is the wealthiest owner , not just in league 1, but outside the prem in some papers / media outlets you read on his finincal means. As far as i am concered there is zero excuses now, the fiance is there , the history is there etc etc for us to compete at this level.
Hope she's having a lovely time wherever she is. fuck sake lol finance lol . btw she is fine, welllll wife these days haha .
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Post by boooothy on May 30, 2024 17:02:37 GMT 1
I don't think you should ignore Wrexham, their celebrity means that the players that want to be famous won't Very good point.
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Post by runner76 on May 30, 2024 17:04:18 GMT 1
wrexham ? would anyone want to live in Wrexham ? i was brought up a bit not far from there, its a shhhhh hole lol, brum ok but others ? Wycombe have a billionaire owner yes, but the ability to finace big moves , is not there compared to us. Our owner if you believe reports is the wealthiest owner , not just in league 1, but outside the prem in some papers / media outlets you read on his finincal means. As far as i am concered there is zero excuses now, the fiance is there , the history is there etc etc for us to compete at this level.
Hope she's having a lovely time wherever she is. ...beat me to it
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Post by hoggy1975 on May 30, 2024 17:12:24 GMT 1
I’d like to think we will sign players that can make the step up to the championship.
Rotherham are buying good players for league one, however there’s a reason they’ve been let go. They’ll have enough to be top 6 and maybe even go up, but will just get smashed again next year.
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Post by kirkheatonterrier on May 30, 2024 17:24:04 GMT 1
But do we trust Cartwright to get it right. His record to date with us isn't great is it? We had money to spend in Jan but sadly got it wrong. Bolton will also be competing with us for the best players, along with Brum and Wrexham so it's not a given the best L1 standard players will be queueing up to sign for us.
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Post by dugnet on May 30, 2024 17:28:05 GMT 1
But do we trust Cartwright to get it right. His record to date with us isn't great is it? We had money to spend in Jan but sadly got it wrong. Bolton will also be competing with us for the best players, along with Brum and Wrexham so it's not a given the best L1 standard players will be queueing up to sign for us. That's true but it comes down to what we offer in wages, money talks. However, as you elude to, you do need to identify the right targets too. MC is under pressure to deliver for sure.
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Post by dezzly on May 30, 2024 17:30:10 GMT 1
But do we trust Cartwright to get it right. His record to date with us isn't great is it? We had money to spend in Jan but sadly got it wrong. Bolton will also be competing with us for the best players, along with Brum and Wrexham so it's not a given the best L1 standard players will be queueing up to sign for us. Will all depend on the players won’t it.Some will look at it from standpoint that we were recently in prem and haven’t been at league 1 level for over a decade and that we’re a big club coming down. Others will simply look at it as Wrexham will have plenty eyes on them so perform well there does it propel you further,others may look at it that Birmingham will simply pay the most money etc etc etc. Does it also bode well for us that we’ve stated we want good characters too,likelihood is the ones that maybe aren’t will look at Birmingham and Wrexham because they’re making the decision on simply money or air time as such. Just few suggestions anyway
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on May 30, 2024 17:35:40 GMT 1
West Brom in for Sorba. Likely dependent upon Carlos not disappearing to Leicester
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Post by goodbet on May 30, 2024 17:38:54 GMT 1
But do we trust Cartwright to get it right. His record to date with us isn't great is it? We had money to spend in Jan but sadly got it wrong. Bolton will also be competing with us for the best players, along with Brum and Wrexham so it's not a given the best L1 standard players will be queueing up to sign for us. That's true but it comes down to what we offer in wages, money talks. However, as you elude to, you do need to identify the right targets too. MC is under pressure to deliver for sure. Wages always count, but the club need to look like it has got itself together. I don't think that video diaries will change a players mind, they will want to see that we have real desire and intention. How did Sunderland get on when they came down, it certainly took them some time to get out of League 1 and did everybodies view of them being a toxic club hinder them in their recovery and rebuild?
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Post by COWSHEDPHIL on May 30, 2024 17:40:47 GMT 1
Town and Birmingham will have the pick of any player going to a Division 3 club. It’s safe to say any player that signs for any of the other 22 clubs, we didn’t want them. Apart from Wrexham (unfortunately)
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Post by hoggy1975 on May 30, 2024 17:48:18 GMT 1
West Brom in for Sorba. Likely dependent upon Carlos not disappearing to Leicester Where have you seen that?
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Post by bells ringing :) on May 30, 2024 17:48:45 GMT 1
Apart from Wrexham (unfortunately) Wrexham will have issues, as the rules in league 1 talks about 75% of income can be spent on players. Yes in league 2 , 11k fans is great but when you compare their income to clubs such as Brum and ours . Heck we have even brought people in, to work out ways of upping our revenue streams, then we should still be able to compete and beat almost all clubs in league 1 (bar brum maybe) as we have give or take 14k/16 k season ticket holders, we can ask more for our comerical situations, as there is in theory more eyes on the products etc. Plus Nagle is very wealthy in himself, says he is very willing to invest (we shall see on this front ) I would say he has more brass than Deadpol etc .
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