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Post by bluesandtwos on Sept 9, 2024 22:22:04 GMT 1
And you know better than the professionals then? If he had still been at Ipswich, and not on a free, and we had landed him in the window people would be really pleased. A proven striker at this level. Any excuse to have a pop. Try supporting the club for a change. decent signing but it is worth questioning the fact we was told by the owner last week we didn’t need a striker and theirs only TWO strikers they wanted and suddenly we sign him a week later? I’m glad of the signing but makes you question the people at the tops statements. In my very humble opinion Kev should just stop commenting. Whether it be regarding signings or calling out a poor performance when three of the lads starting are playing their first senior game for the club. He really should just keep his comments off social media.
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Post by bluesandtwos on Sept 9, 2024 22:22:55 GMT 1
Fuming that we didn't sign 31-year old Alfie May, who before this season had scored 66 goals in League One, for £1 million on 20 grand a week And instead are going to sign 31-year old Freddie Ladapo, who before this season has scored 66 goals in League One, for £0 on presumably less than 10 grand a week Ask Charlton fans the difference between the players. Have you done that then? What did they say?
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Post by rockwall on Sept 9, 2024 22:25:07 GMT 1
Fans moan we haven't brought in a striker.
Club bringing in striker, fans moan about it.
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Post by bells ringing :) on Sept 9, 2024 22:26:06 GMT 1
Fans moan we haven't brought in a striker. Club bringing in striker, fans moan about it. Moaning wont be there, if on Saturday he pops in the winner.
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Post by cuz on Sept 9, 2024 22:27:35 GMT 1
Fans moan we haven't brought in a striker. Club bringing in striker, fans moan about it. Moaning wont be there, if on Saturday he pops in the winner. Has he actually signed?
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Post by rockwall on Sept 9, 2024 22:28:25 GMT 1
Fans moan we haven't brought in a striker. Club bringing in striker, fans moan about it. Moaning wont be there, if on Saturday he pops in the winner. I understand the frustration. But Ladapo is very different to what we have. Risk free signing with potential to be brilliant.
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Post by Wingman on Sept 9, 2024 22:32:50 GMT 1
Club can't win can they?
I love how some Town fans write off a player before he even pulls the shirt on, steps on the grass, or has even signed! Give him a chance.
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Post by rougeboy31 on Sept 9, 2024 22:57:41 GMT 1
about 1 minute in. Against Charlton I think, back to goal, spins his defender and smashes it bottom corner, haven’t seen a goal like that at town in years
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Post by ambryboy on Sept 9, 2024 23:27:16 GMT 1
And you know better than the professionals then? If he had still been at Ipswich, and not on a free, and we had landed him in the window people would be really pleased. A proven striker at this level. Any excuse to have a pop. Try supporting the club for a change. Will always support the club but will come back to this when you’ve seen him play How come you know so much about him, are you a professional scout?
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Post by pterrier on Sept 9, 2024 23:50:22 GMT 1
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Post by rougeboy31 on Sept 9, 2024 23:51:25 GMT 1
Will always support the club but will come back to this when you’ve seen him play How come you know so much about him, are you a professional scout? He probably watched every Lincoln game that Taylor played in as well
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Post by Convictatthemac on Sept 10, 2024 0:55:53 GMT 1
The transfer window has closed, there’s nothing we can do about that window now, it’s history.
What we can influence is our future and if that means signing an out of contract player then I’m all for it. Yes the club fucked up with their search for a striker during the window, but rather than stick their head in the sand they’ve moved forward and made a decision that will hopefully help the manager and the players.
Time to get behind the players now and cheer them on.
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Post by Kirchenglocken on Sept 10, 2024 6:39:34 GMT 1
Had Town brought him in in loan then I suspect many would have taken it given his record. I am not convinced about his overall quality but if he adds something different and will take enough chances then why not.
Maybe after b2b promotions his Ipswich wages were a stumbling block as bonuses vould have quickly seen him earning far more than his worth. Maybe Town never even looked into it because he actually is crap. 😅
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Post by kennyk2 on Sept 10, 2024 7:05:08 GMT 1
Club can't win can they? I love how some Town fans write off a player before he even pulls the shirt on, steps on the grass, or has even signed! Give him a chance. Steve Chicken mentioned this on the latest episode of "We Are Terriers". There's something a bit weird about fans having a go at the club for every decision they make, but it gives these people massive self-gratification.
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Post by yeovilterrier on Sept 10, 2024 7:16:42 GMT 1
Can’t see Ladapo starting when everyone is fit. But he’s a great squad option. Can’t see any negatives in this one. Solid pro who knows the league. He improves the squad.
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Post by Yuta be a terrier on Sept 10, 2024 7:54:44 GMT 1
This has blown up though because of the comments from Nagle at 3pm on deadline day. Fans sat waiting to for Taylor to be announced to be told out the blue that we should focus on the “firepower” we already have. Basically coming out and trying to big up our existing strikers thinking we are stupid enough to believe that Ward, Radulovic and an unfit Healey are now the answer. He then doubles down and starts giving it back to the fans. Admittedly he gets some unnecessary grief on social media but in this instance he went out looking for it. Another example of trying to tell fans who know the club better than anyone that we don’t know what we are talking about. Fans said the squad was short in the summer 23 window - club knew better Fans said Moore should go within a month of being here - club knew better Fans said Moore needed to go before that crucial run in January- club knew better. Fans have said since early on that Cartwright isn’t performing- club know better.
I’m not talking about the vocal minority on X either. The above points all had a very strong majority behind them. He was always going to make mistakes, that is understandable. However, this is Yorkshire. We aren’t very tolerant of embellishment and people trying to pull the wool over our eyes. If it hasn’t gone to plan, then say so. Don’t dress it up as something it isn’t.
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Post by BLUE&WHITE on Sept 10, 2024 8:12:18 GMT 1
Previously good record in this league.
Seems to have struggled more higher up (could be the type of player who needs consistency, not sure he will be starting that much here)
31 so on the back side of peak but not past it yet. Experienced golden years.
Been part of many successful sides. Good experience, probably good to have in that environment.
Different playing style, looks able to handle it on his own upfront (which we don't have) and many of us have pointed out we need another option (think of the last few games)
Looks a decent signing. Is he the best option out there. No but a one year deal for all the reasons above, good addition.
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Post by hoggy1975 on Sept 10, 2024 8:13:45 GMT 1
I’ve said for a while we needed a big lad up front who can hold the ball up. It will give the team another option as the other strikers struggle at that. I’ve never seen him play so I’m just assuming this based on his size.
It could also be an indication Healeys niggling issue will take longer than anticipated.
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Post by mosher on Sept 10, 2024 8:27:08 GMT 1
But Kev said we had all the cf's we needed . Can't be true that a week or so later, that we bring a cf in. I am glad Cartwright is in charge not Kev lol. That's not ACTUALLY what he said; he said we should have faith in the ones we've got, which if we HADN'T signed another striker we would have to I suppose
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Post by mosher on Sept 10, 2024 8:29:43 GMT 1
What this last page DOES prove is… Nagle can’t win. Exactly. People want a striker. But this one’s not the right one. There’s no guarantees either way, Ladapo might score 15 goals. Which is the LEAST he's scored in his last 4 full seasons at this level. As someone said above, KN and Cartwright just can't win
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Post by Waterloo Terrier on Sept 10, 2024 8:30:00 GMT 1
Fans moan we haven't brought in a striker. Club bringing in striker, fans moan about it. Doubt it has anything to do with the fans. Surely Duff has just hit the roof after telling the club to get a senior striker in all summer and then getting heat from the chairman when he has to play kids up front.
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Post by trevuptop on Sept 10, 2024 8:31:51 GMT 1
One poor season in the last 5 or so years means he's past his sell by date? Got it
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Post by richhtfc on Sept 10, 2024 8:32:45 GMT 1
I’ve said for a while we needed a big lad up front who can hold the ball up. It will give the team another option as the other strikers struggle at that. I’ve never seen him play so I’m just assuming this based on his size. It could also be an indication Healeys niggling issue will take longer than anticipated. Looks like just what we need potentially from his Ipswich highlights reel
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Post by iangreaves on Sept 10, 2024 8:46:15 GMT 1
Can’t see Ladapo starting when everyone is fit. But he’s a great squad option. Can’t see any negatives in this one. Solid pro who knows the league. He improves the squad. “When everyone is fit.” Doesn’t seem very likely given the record of our strikers so far.
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Post by bluesandtwos on Sept 10, 2024 8:53:38 GMT 1
Previously good record in this league. Seems to have struggled more higher up (could be the type of player who needs consistency, not sure he will be starting that much here) 31 so on the back side of peak but not past it yet. Experienced golden years. Been part of many successful sides. Good experience, probably good to have in that environment. Different playing style, looks able to handle it on his own upfront (which we don't have) and many of us have pointed out we need another option (think of the last few games) Looks a decent signing. Is he the best option out there. No but a one year deal for all the reasons above, good addition. Some interesting comments from the Charlton fans: "Ladapo has a good record in this league but is used to playing for promotion chasing sides who create lots of chances. Coming into a side fighting for its life who at times this season have barely created 1-2 good chances per game probably takes some adapting to." (Miller and Sorenson would certainly give him ammunition)"Personally, the cross that wafted between him and the open goal was enough to confirm my previously expressed opinion was correct. He isn't good enough." (I love how one missed chance confirmed his previously expressed opinion - remind you of anywhere?)and the reply"See I thought it was a good run to get in front of his man, and then Watson (who otherwise had a good game) completely misses him with the ball across. If he plays it right Ladapo gets a tap in." "May is going to be playing the bulk of games next season most likely. Need to sign a partner for him. Ladapo-May doesn't work. Two poachers makes for a poor partnership and the ball doesn't stick." (However one good poacher could make quite a difference to us)
I know it is all opinons but it does show how they vary, and perhaps, added to the fact Ladapo was farmed out to a poor League 1 side after helping Ipswich get promoted, why he didn't set the world alight at Charlton.
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Post by terriersyndrome on Sept 10, 2024 9:09:15 GMT 1
Previously good record in this league. Seems to have struggled more higher up (could be the type of player who needs consistency, not sure he will be starting that much here) 31 so on the back side of peak but not past it yet. Experienced golden years. Been part of many successful sides. Good experience, probably good to have in that environment. Different playing style, looks able to handle it on his own upfront (which we don't have) and many of us have pointed out we need another option (think of the last few games) Looks a decent signing. Is he the best option out there. No but a one year deal for all the reasons above, good addition. Some interesting comments from the Charlton fans: "Ladapo has a good record in this league but is used to playing for promotion chasing sides who create lots of chances. Coming into a side fighting for its life who at times this season have barely created 1-2 good chances per game probably takes some adapting to." (Miller and Sorenson would certainly give him ammunition)"Personally, the cross that wafted between him and the open goal was enough to confirm my previously expressed opinion was correct. He isn't good enough." (I love how one missed chance confirmed his previously expressed opinion - remind you of anywhere?)and the reply"See I thought it was a good run to get in front of his man, and then Watson (who otherwise had a good game) completely misses him with the ball across. If he plays it right Ladapo gets a tap in." "May is going to be playing the bulk of games next season most likely. Need to sign a partner for him. Ladapo-May doesn't work. Two poachers makes for a poor partnership and the ball doesn't stick." (However one good poacher could make quite a difference to us)
I know it is all opinons but it does show how they vary, and perhaps, added to the fact Ladapo was farmed out to a poor League 1 side after helping Ipswich get promoted, why he didn't set the world alight at Charlton.
He played the equivalent of around 8 games for Charlton, mostly sub cameos. I think Ipswich is a better source of information for him where he played the equivalent of around 37 games and scored 25.
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Post by Tinpot on Sept 10, 2024 9:30:08 GMT 1
A brilliant summing up of the problems we've had since Shrewsbury.
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Post by Sio on Sept 10, 2024 9:35:09 GMT 1
Exactly. People want a striker. But this one’s not the right one. There’s no guarantees either way, Ladapo might score 15 goals. Which is the LEAST he's scored in his last 4 full seasons at this level. As someone said above, KN and Cartwright just can't win I mean, they can - most on here were very complimentary of our transfer business this window but yet again we failed to find one of the most crucial pieces of the puzzle, for the third window running. You then have Nagle taking pops essentially suggesting we have the necessary 'firepower' and then, lo and behold, we bring in a panic free transfer because we couldn't get actual business over the line (are we still to take Nagle's word that we're happy with our squad?) All the above said, Ladapo looks as good an option as you will find in the market as we stand so it's a perfectly fine signing. However, let's not make out that Nagle and Cartwright are being completely hard done by.
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Post by dxterrier on Sept 10, 2024 9:42:06 GMT 1
Has Ladapo actually signed though or is it just speculation?
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Post by royrace on Sept 10, 2024 9:45:38 GMT 1
Hopefully he's better than the usual out of contract dross we sign when we've fcked up in the transfer window and had to resort to the bottom of the barrel.
On paper its good to get another striker in with recent experience and success in the league. Similar age to Danny Ward and Jordan Rhodes and nowhere near as successful, not expecting much but hoping to be pleasantly surprised. As a free agent will he have bothered keeping himself fit? If not he's not gonna be ready for a few weeks.
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