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Post by Lovechops on May 21, 2024 11:26:57 GMT 1
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Post by themanfromatlantis on May 21, 2024 11:40:06 GMT 1
Hope he gets well and is back in the game when he’s ready. Seems like a decent sort does TM.
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Post by exberlinerterrier on May 21, 2024 11:43:12 GMT 1
First and foremost hope TM gets well soon.
Birmingham have a lot of money available so I half expect them to bring in a big name - even though their best bet would be someone like Rowett.
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Post by irverino on May 21, 2024 11:45:43 GMT 1
I have no doubt he probably would have kept them up, says he will return & possibly doesn't see himself (Rowett too?) as a league one manager with the prospect of plenty championship jobs on offer by the end of the year........Red hot title favourites, but who wants the job? A rigorous search is underway according to CEO Gary Cook.
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Post by Oblong of Dreams on May 21, 2024 14:59:39 GMT 1
I have no doubt he probably would have kept them up, says he will return & possibly doesn't see himself (Rowett too?) as a league one manager with the prospect of plenty championship jobs on offer by the end of the year........Red hot title favourites, but who wants the job? A rigorous search is underway according to CEO Gary Cook. There's a Scottish coach who's up and coming, worked in Germany and even at a senior international tournament. He's also very humble and down-to-earth. I think Tom Brady would like the cut of his jib... Would free up a top six spot anyway! |
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Post by Tinpot on May 21, 2024 15:17:00 GMT 1
I have no doubt he probably would have kept them up, says he will return & possibly doesn't see himself (Rowett too?) as a league one manager with the prospect of plenty championship jobs on offer by the end of the year........Red hot title favourites, but who wants the job? A rigorous search is underway according to CEO Gary Cook. There's a Scottish coach who's up and coming, worked in Germany and even at a senior international tournament. He's also very humble and down-to-earth. I think Tom Brady would like the cut of his jib... Would free up a top six spot anyway! If Tom Brady is trying to build something at Birmingham there's a scaffolder I'd be only too happy to recommend! |
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Post by morrisraspass on May 21, 2024 16:35:55 GMT 1
We would be collectively shitting the bed being without a manager at this late stage. Or that's how the situation is perceived when we're involved; doesn't seem so bad while they're still looking ... yet.
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Post by Tinpot on May 21, 2024 19:54:04 GMT 1
We would be collectively shitting the bed being without a manager at this late stage. Or that's how the situation is perceived when we're involved; doesn't seem so bad while they're still looking ... yet. I'm not sure that's true. Not yet anyway. If we hadn't had a response from AB yet I'd be concerned as I'd have expected the new manager search to take a while, and the scale of the job we've got this summer is huge. Birmingham though? Their relegation is a massive underachievement. They have a squad that should have stayed up comfortably last season. One that I'm sure would have stayed up comfortably if they'd kept Eustace, or replaced him with someone better than Rooney, or if Venus had been up to the job, or if Tony Mowbray hadn't got sick... Any half decent manager in there with that squad and their budget should win League 1 at a canter next season. As for Rotherham, they have a huge rebuild to do too, and they're doing it. True, I don't particularly rate JCH any more but by getting the business done early they may do what we did in 21/22. |
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2024 20:05:19 GMT 1
We would be collectively shitting the bed being without a manager at this late stage. Or that's how the situation is perceived when we're involved; doesn't seem so bad while they're still looking ... yet. I'm not sure that's true. Not yet anyway. If we hadn't had a response from AB yet I'd be concerned as I'd have expected the new manager search to take a while, and the scale of the job we've got this summer is huge. Birmingham though? Their relegation is a massive underachievement. They have a squad that should have stayed up comfortably last season. One that I'm sure would have stayed up comfortably if they'd kept Eustace, or replaced him with someone better than Rooney, or if Venus had been up to the job, or if Tony Mowbray hadn't got sick... Any half decent manager in there with that squad and their budget should win League 1 at a canter next season. As for Rotherham, they have a huge rebuild to do too, and they're doing it. True, I don't particularly rate JCH any more but by getting the business done early they may do what we did in 21/22. Getting the work done early must be an advantage but only if you get the right players. We won't know that until we are a way into the season. I do find it strange that they can sign players who, if their contracts run until June 30th, are not free agents, and when most of them will be on holiday. Maybe if you get released the holiday goes on hold? |
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Post by terrier10 on May 21, 2024 20:15:46 GMT 1
I'm not sure that's true. Not yet anyway. If we hadn't had a response from AB yet I'd be concerned as I'd have expected the new manager search to take a while, and the scale of the job we've got this summer is huge. Birmingham though? Their relegation is a massive underachievement. They have a squad that should have stayed up comfortably last season. One that I'm sure would have stayed up comfortably if they'd kept Eustace, or replaced him with someone better than Rooney, or if Venus had been up to the job, or if Tony Mowbray hadn't got sick... Any half decent manager in there with that squad and their budget should win League 1 at a canter next season. As for Rotherham, they have a huge rebuild to do too, and they're doing it. True, I don't particularly rate JCH any more but by getting the business done early they may do what we did in 21/22. Getting the work done early must be an advantage but only if you get the right players. We won't know that until we are a way into the season. I do find it strange that they can sign players who, if their contracts run until June 30th, are not free agents, and when most of them will be on holiday. Maybe if you get released the holiday goes on hold? Their existing contract will run until 30 June, new one will start thereafter. The announcement of a signing does not mean that the transfer of registration is complete - that will take place at the expiry of the contract. The “transfer window” as such only exists as to when a player can be registered to play. You could sign somebody in March and pay a fee etc, the registration just would not go through until July. |
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Post by Tinpot on May 21, 2024 20:55:16 GMT 1
I'm not sure that's true. Not yet anyway. If we hadn't had a response from AB yet I'd be concerned as I'd have expected the new manager search to take a while, and the scale of the job we've got this summer is huge. Birmingham though? Their relegation is a massive underachievement. They have a squad that should have stayed up comfortably last season. One that I'm sure would have stayed up comfortably if they'd kept Eustace, or replaced him with someone better than Rooney, or if Venus had been up to the job, or if Tony Mowbray hadn't got sick... Any half decent manager in there with that squad and their budget should win League 1 at a canter next season. As for Rotherham, they have a huge rebuild to do too, and they're doing it. True, I don't particularly rate JCH any more but by getting the business done early they may do what we did in 21/22. Getting the work done early must be an advantage but only if you get the right players. We won't know that until we are a way into the season. I do find it strange that they can sign players who, if their contracts run until June 30th, are not free agents, and when most of them will be on holiday. Maybe if you get released the holiday goes on hold? Get agreement in place now and backdate any agreement to July 1st? E.g. JCH is still paid by Peterborough until the end of next month even though he's ostensibly now a Rotherham player. |
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2024 22:48:12 GMT 1
Getting the work done early must be an advantage but only if you get the right players. We won't know that until we are a way into the season. I do find it strange that they can sign players who, if their contracts run until June 30th, are not free agents, and when most of them will be on holiday. Maybe if you get released the holiday goes on hold? Get agreement in place now and backdate any agreement to July 1st? E.g. JCH is still paid by Peterborough until the end of next month even though he's ostensibly now a Rotherham player. Funny old world, init? |
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Post by irverino on May 21, 2024 23:07:52 GMT 1
Who will Birmingham (Gary Cook) be able to persuade to take the reigns at St Andrews next season? I suspect they will get more knockbacks than a queue of suitable applicants.......Sounds a bit to me that Tony & Gary both departing has come as a bit of a shock to the title favourites.
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Post by Big Jim on May 21, 2024 23:26:24 GMT 1
Who will Birmingham (Gary Cook) be able to persuade to take the reigns at St Andrews next season? I suspect they will get more knockbacks than a queue of suitable applicants.......Sounds a bit to me that Tony & Gary both departing has come as a bit of a shock to the title favourites. I hear Poch is looking for work? |
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Post by melbourneterrier on May 22, 2024 3:14:45 GMT 1
Hope Mowbray recovers, and that things aren't too serious.
I hear a certain David Wagner is out of work....
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Post by Matt1908 on May 22, 2024 8:24:42 GMT 1
Surely they just keep Rowett? Didn't do a bad job in the circumstances as I think the majority of damage had been done by Rooney & Venus
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Post by Terriersmad on May 22, 2024 8:54:55 GMT 1
Surely they just keep Rowett? Didn't do a bad job in the circumstances as I think the majority of damage had been done by Rooney & Venus A) Harsh on Mark Venus, who inherited not only a squad who were just turning a corner after regular defeats, but who also had to deal with the fact he wasn't the boss and the players would have known that. He isn't a number 1 and was asked to do that job in difficult circumstances. B) I don't think Rowett fancies League One. Why would he? He's got a consistent record in the Championship and will be confident of a job in that division. And it's not like he needs the work. More importantly, I hope Tony Mowbray recovers quickly and completely. I don't think he's a man to quit easily, but he's also honourable and will have made that decision with the best interests of both his family and the football club in mind. Long-term illness can set someone back a very long way. |
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Post by Matt1908 on May 22, 2024 9:37:26 GMT 1
Surely they just keep Rowett? Didn't do a bad job in the circumstances as I think the majority of damage had been done by Rooney & Venus A) Harsh on Mark Venus, who inherited not only a squad who were just turning a corner after regular defeats, but who also had to deal with the fact he wasn't the boss and the players would have known that. He isn't a number 1 and was asked to do that job in difficult circumstances. B) I don't think Rowett fancies League One. Why would he? He's got a consistent record in the Championship and will be confident of a job in that division. And it's not like he needs the work. More importantly, I hope Tony Mowbray recovers quickly and completely. I don't think he's a man to quit easily, but he's also honourable and will have made that decision with the best interests of both his family and the football club in mind. Long-term illness can set someone back a very long way. I wasn't necessarily saying it was Venus' fault, but his spell in charge certainly contributed to their issues. You say Rowett has a consistent record in the Championship but in reality you are only as good as your last job and he does have a relegation on his CV. Wholeheartedly agree with the sentiments in regards to Tony Mowbray, a good football man and probably someone you won't hear a bad word said about. He is someone I would have had at Town over the years for sure. I hope he makes a full recovery, enough to live a happy and fulfilling life if not enough to take on the rigours of full time management again, at least anytime soon. |
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Post by irverino on May 22, 2024 9:47:20 GMT 1
Surely they just keep Rowett? Didn't do a bad job in the circumstances as I think the majority of damage had been done by Rooney & Venus Birmingham live are not discounting GR & currently have his odds @5/1 along with Will Still, ahead of them is Darren Ferguson @4/1, Ian Evatt @7/2, Alex Neil @5/2 & current favourite is Liam Rosenior @23/10..........1st team coach at Brum Ashley Cole is @10/1, he could be another Rooney, yes please. |
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Post by Arbie 1976. on May 22, 2024 17:14:26 GMT 1
First and foremost hope TM gets well soon. Birmingham have a lot of money available so I half expect them to bring in a big name - even though their best bet would be someone like Rowett. A big name like Rooney 👍 |
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Post by rothwellterrier on May 22, 2024 17:19:09 GMT 1
Percy at the Telegraph is reporting Alex Neil is their target.
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Post by lossiemouthtownfan on May 22, 2024 17:40:44 GMT 1
As Alex Pritchard is at Birmingham City now I wonder if he had a relegation wage reduction clause in his contract 😉
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Post by Oblong of Dreams on May 22, 2024 18:21:23 GMT 1
There's a Scottish coach who's up and coming, worked in Germany and even at a senior international tournament. He's also very humble and down-to-earth. I think Tom Brady would like the cut of his jib... Would free up a top six spot anyway! If Tom Brady is trying to build something at Birmingham there's a scaffolder I'd be only too happy to recommend! I'd meant to mention that he's also an experienced scaffolder who could prevent bits of their ground being closed for safety reasons again, but forgot! |
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Post by irverino on May 22, 2024 18:21:49 GMT 1
Percy at the Telegraph is reporting Alex Neil is their target. Although some Blues fans are objecting to AN he seems to be a decent candidate for the job, like MD he made a poor (crazy IMO) decision to leave Sunderland for Stoke after promoting them via the play offs............Link up with AP again & I think he will accept the post if offered. |
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Post by Oblong of Dreams on May 22, 2024 18:24:30 GMT 1
A) Harsh on Mark Venus, who inherited not only a squad who were just turning a corner after regular defeats, but who also had to deal with the fact he wasn't the boss and the players would have known that. He isn't a number 1 and was asked to do that job in difficult circumstances. B) I don't think Rowett fancies League One. Why would he? He's got a consistent record in the Championship and will be confident of a job in that division. And it's not like he needs the work. More importantly, I hope Tony Mowbray recovers quickly and completely. I don't think he's a man to quit easily, but he's also honourable and will have made that decision with the best interests of both his family and the football club in mind. Long-term illness can set someone back a very long way. I wasn't necessarily saying it was Venus' fault, but his spell in charge certainly contributed to their issues. You say Rowett has a consistent record in the Championship but in reality you are only as good as your last job and he does have a relegation on his CV. Wholeheartedly agree with the sentiments in regards to Tony Mowbray, a good football man and probably someone you won't hear a bad word said about. He is someone I would have had at Town over the years for sure. I hope he makes a full recovery, enough to live a happy and fulfilling life if not enough to take on the rigours of full time management again, at least anytime soon. I can think of a few bad words about Mowbray... he's got a face that makes him look like he's just eaten a whole jar of pickled onions. |
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Post by Tinpot on May 22, 2024 19:43:14 GMT 1
If Tom Brady is trying to build something at Birmingham there's a scaffolder I'd be only too happy to recommend! I'd meant to mention that he's also an experienced scaffolder who could prevent bits of their ground being closed for safety reasons again, but forgot! So, unlike here he would be genuinely useful? |
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Post by irverino on Jun 5, 2024 8:18:12 GMT 1
Surely they just keep Rowett? Didn't do a bad job in the circumstances as I think the majority of damage had been done by Rooney & Venus A) Harsh on Mark Venus, who inherited not only a squad who were just turning a corner after regular defeats, but who also had to deal with the fact he wasn't the boss and the players would have known that. He isn't a number 1 and was asked to do that job in difficult circumstances. B) I don't think Rowett fancies League One. Why would he? He's got a consistent record in the Championship and will be confident of a job in that division. And it's not like he needs the work. More importantly, I hope Tony Mowbray recovers quickly and completely. I don't think he's a man to quit easily, but he's also honourable and will have made that decision with the best interests of both his family and the football club in mind. Long-term illness can set someone back a very long way. Mark Venus left St Andrews yesterday ahead of a possible new manager & backroom team announcement, Alex Neil is the man heavily tipped to get the job although some of the Brummies are not over enthusiastic about him......Seems a pretty good appointment to me. |
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Post by Captainslapper on Jun 5, 2024 10:36:04 GMT 1
Linked to Lampard in the press today, though hes also a possibility at Burnley.
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Post by irverino on Jun 5, 2024 18:36:32 GMT 1
Linked to Lampard in the press today, though hes also a possibility at Burnley. They could also be waiting on Liam Rosenior (Birmingham live) who told the Blues he was having talks with Sunderland/Burnley & considering his options at a higher level but wasn't ruling out 'one of the most attractive jobs in league one'........Brum fans seem to want Rowett back in charge over the other names, not going too smoothly for the L1 title favourites. |
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Post by soapystevens on Jun 5, 2024 18:49:19 GMT 1
They are seen has a big club but why, when was the last time they won anything.
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