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Post by turbo2 on May 30, 2024 8:42:50 GMT 1
Been poor for his 3 years since rejoining. When will people just let it go? Has done absolutely nothing to warrant staying. Releasing was the best thing. He scored a couple of important goals in the Corberan season, he got us to the play off final to be fair to him. He had a great game at Middlesbrough but let not make out that he got us to the playoffs. A couple of decent performances in two seasons. 15 goals in L1 does not equate to any goals in the championship. I said when we signed him it was short sighted and nothing since has gone anywhere near proving me wrong |
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Post by htafcokay on May 30, 2024 9:09:55 GMT 1
Been poor for his 3 years since rejoining. When will people just let it go? Has done absolutely nothing to warrant staying. Releasing was the best thing. He scored a couple of important goals in the Corberan season, he got us to the play off final to be fair to him.Single-handedly? |
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Post by richhtfc on May 30, 2024 9:27:12 GMT 1
He scored a couple of important goals in the Corberan season, he got us to the play off final to be fair to him.Single-handedly? Well obviously not, but it was an excellent goal to win the semi that I couldn’t have seen anyone else in that team scoring. |
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Post by rockwall on May 30, 2024 9:29:54 GMT 1
Been poor for his 3 years since rejoining. When will people just let it go? Has done absolutely nothing to warrant staying. Releasing was the best thing. He scored a couple of important goals in the Corberan season, he got us to the play off final to be fair to him. Jon Russell scored a vital winner V Luton in the league let's bring him back. |
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Post by Essex Terrier on May 30, 2024 9:30:31 GMT 1
I would expect him to rock up somewhere next season, perhaps with one of the up and coming nouveau riche clubs who need guaranteed goals in Div 1 or 2.
But his reputation will mean he won't be cheap, and good for him.
I'd have him here if the deal was right, but I think that ship has probably sailed.
Thanks for the memories JR.
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Post by richhtfc on May 30, 2024 9:32:20 GMT 1
He scored a couple of important goals in the Corberan season, he got us to the play off final to be fair to him. Jon Russell scored a vital winner V Luton in the league let's bring him back. I don’t want him back, I’m just replying to you saying he did nothing in 3 years. |
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Post by htafcokay on May 30, 2024 9:45:03 GMT 1
He scored a couple of important goals in the Corberan season, he got us to the play off final to be fair to him. Jon Russell scored a vital winner V Luton in the league let's bring him back. Lee Fowler got us to Division Two. Told me he'd love to come back. |
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Post by turbo2 on May 30, 2024 9:56:48 GMT 1
Jon Russell scored a vital winner V Luton in the league let's bring him back. I don’t want him back, I’m just replying to you saying he did nothing in 3 years. Even the chuckle bros had the occasional positive impact. But once a flood at any level isn’t enough |
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Post by Fish & Chips on May 30, 2024 15:44:25 GMT 1
Too right, I'm very nostalgic for us not having a striker who could score 15 goals in 20 games and keep us up. He could have scored just 5 and kept us up. Yet another shocking decision by the tinpots in charge.
If you're playing that game, then he'd have got injured months before the season finished anyway so would have been little point in keeping him. Nonsense. You can’t say that because he got injured in one game which had a very specific incident, that the same would occur in another totally different game at a similar time. |
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Post by htafcokay on May 30, 2024 15:48:22 GMT 1
If you're playing that game, then he'd have got injured months before the season finished anyway so would have been little point in keeping him. Nonsense. You can’t say that because he got injured in one game which had a very specific incident, that the same would occur in another totally different game at a similar time. Neither can you say that he'd score goals in this division just because he scored some for a different team in another division. |
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Post by Tinpot on May 30, 2024 17:07:18 GMT 1
Nonsense. You can’t say that because he got injured in one game which had a very specific incident, that the same would occur in another totally different game at a similar time. Neither can you say that he'd score goals in this division just because he scored some for a different team in another division. No, although you could probably argue that playing a striker up front might have helped our cause a smidgen. |
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Post by araucaria on May 30, 2024 17:22:38 GMT 1
Rhodes was never fast. Rhodes scores goals. The rest is just bullshit. The way our fans disrespect one of our greatest strikers is weird. Who is disrespecting him? I don't think there's any doubt that during his first spell he was one of our greatest strikers, he's certainly the best I've seen. However, there's also no doubt that he's flattered to deceive in his second spell and bringing him back didn't have the desired effect. He's scored 10 goals in 64 games (having scored 87 in 148 in his first spell) and was generally past his best at Championship level when he signed. Before arriving here, he hadn't hit double figures for five years and in that time, had played 141 games and scored 29 goals. It is possible to distinguish between someone's first and someone's second spell and be objective about both spells. Some people will tell you that Mally Brown was fantastic in his first spell at Town, but was poor in his second spell. Is that disrespecting Mally Brown? Or is it just being truthful about both his spells at the club? You've got me thinking how many Town players have done better in their second spell than their first? Loan signings have to count, or I couldn't nominate Peter Butler. I doubt very much that there are 10 more to make a team, but we could pick one or two teams of those who didn't do as well second time around. |
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Post by Essex Terrier on May 30, 2024 17:37:22 GMT 1
Theo?
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Post by araucaria on May 30, 2024 17:45:37 GMT 1
Maybe not Theo, but I've just thought of Duane, so that's two in the midfield.
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Post by Tinpot on May 30, 2024 19:25:15 GMT 1
Richard Keogh was better in his second spell.
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Post by htafcokay on May 30, 2024 23:23:46 GMT 1
Richard Keogh was better in his second spell. That's not saying much! |
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Post by Tinpot on May 31, 2024 0:31:57 GMT 1
Richard Keogh was better in his second spell. That's not saying much! Law of averages said that even at 34 years old with a gammy leg he was likely to be better than in his first spell. |
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Post by richhtfc on May 31, 2024 8:26:30 GMT 1
A “comeback” eleven off the top of my head, sure there’s plenty more
Jonas Lossl
Chris Lucketti
Richard Keogh
Will Boyle
Peter Butler
Duane Holmes
Kasey Palmer
Danny Ward
Jordan Rhodes
Andy Booth
Jon Stead
Bit top heavy…
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Post by Terriersmad on May 31, 2024 9:49:50 GMT 1
Law of averages said that even at 34 years old with a gammy leg he was likely to be better than in his first spell. Did score that absolute screamer against Cheltenham in his first spell though. That has to count in his favour. |
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Post by Colin the Caterpillar on May 31, 2024 11:24:52 GMT 1
A “comeback” eleven off the top of my head, sure there’s plenty more Jonas Lossl Chris Lucketti Richard Keogh Will Boyle Peter Butler Duane Holmes Kasey Palmer Danny Ward Jordan Rhodes Andy Booth Jon Stead Bit top heavy… Peltier Thornley |
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Post by daveswithy1982 on May 31, 2024 12:26:35 GMT 1
Sean Morrison was class in his second spell with us.
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Post by benhomly on May 31, 2024 12:39:14 GMT 1
I would expect him to rock up somewhere next season, perhaps with one of the up and coming nouveau riche clubs who need guaranteed goals in Div 1 or 2. But his reputation will mean he won't be cheap, and good for him. I'd have him here if the deal was right, but I think that ship has probably sailed. Thanks for the memories JR. I'd have him here on the proviso that his agent found other clubs for Ward, Harratt and Hudlin. Other than that then no thanks. |
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Post by Tinpot on May 31, 2024 14:13:40 GMT 1
Law of averages said that even at 34 years old with a gammy leg he was likely to be better than in his first spell. Did score that absolute screamer against Cheltenham in his first spell though. That has to count in his favour. Alex Pritchard played well in the 4-1 win over Bournemouth. A stopped clock tells the correct time twice a day... Etc |
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Post by royrace on May 31, 2024 14:51:54 GMT 1
Rhodes was a better option than Hudlin or Harrat neither of whom are even L1 quality. You know, L1, the league that Rhodes scored fifteen in, in half a season. Don't let those facts get in the way of defending your mate Cartwright though. Zzzzzzz Nothing to do with Cartwright , Warnock didn’t want him, hardly played him at the end of the 22/23 season and had no intention of using this last season, as you say don’t let facts get in the way, it’s down to Warnock, Zzzzz. Christ Warnock's even getting blamed for the January business now  as it happened he ended up injured but that was after Cartwright had refused to swallow his pride and recall him. Or maybe we can blame DM? I'm sure he was relishing fighting for his job without a single fit striker. |
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Post by goodbet on May 31, 2024 15:23:46 GMT 1
Nothing to do with Cartwright , Warnock didn’t want him, hardly played him at the end of the 22/23 season and had no intention of using this last season, as you say don’t let facts get in the way, it’s down to Warnock, Zzzzz. Christ Warnock's even getting blamed for the January business now as it happened he ended up injured but that was after Cartwright had refused to swallow his pride and recall him. Or maybe we can blame DM? I'm sure he was relishing fighting for his job without a single fit striker. Portugal must be the son of Cartwright  |
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Post by k1man999 on May 31, 2024 17:59:38 GMT 1
A “comeback” eleven off the top of my head, sure there’s plenty more Jonas Lossl Chris Lucketti Richard Keogh Will Boyle Peter Butler Duane Holmes Kasey Palmer Danny Ward Jordan Rhodes Andy Booth Jon Stead Bit top heavy… Rob Edwards quality in both spells |
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Post by royrace on May 31, 2024 18:58:20 GMT 1
A “comeback” eleven off the top of my head, sure there’s plenty more Jonas Lossl Chris Lucketti Richard Keogh Will Boyle Peter Butler Duane Holmes Kasey Palmer Danny Ward Jordan Rhodes Andy Booth Jon Stead Bit top heavy… Rob Edwards quality in both spells Mally Brown, iffy |
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Post by Carlito Brigante on May 31, 2024 21:11:00 GMT 1
Rob Edwards quality in both spells Mally Brown, iffy Both a shadow of their glorious earlier spells Brown was one of my all time favourites first time around but nowt like on his return. |
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Post by Carlito Brigante on May 31, 2024 21:12:49 GMT 1
Lee Martin was probably better second time around as he was useful as a physio too 😉
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Post by Fish & Chips on Jun 1, 2024 12:07:07 GMT 1
Some people assume we’re going to walk it this season. We’re not.
A proven scorer with 15 goals in 20 games at this level, let alone his previous record, at the very least use him in rotation and in being a mentor to young players.
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as it happened he ended up injured but that was after Cartwright had refused to swallow his pride and recall him. Or maybe we can blame DM? I'm sure he was relishing fighting for his job without a single fit striker.