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Post by Mastercracker on Jun 6, 2024 11:07:19 GMT 1
We had a framed TK boot in our old office, bought at a charity auction in summer 2018.
It went in the skip when we left.
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Post by waggers on Jun 6, 2024 11:27:01 GMT 1
Has he been injured or has he just refused to transfer away from Fulham?
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Post by twyford on Jun 6, 2024 11:28:22 GMT 1
TK was superb at times on loan. After we signed him permanently I remember thinking he'd play one more season for us and be sold for a tidy profit. shows what I know. Sweet FA. (I also thought Dwayne Mattis looked great in his first few games, that Brahima Diarra was a total baller and that somewhere within Isaac Mbenza there was a real player) Seemed very committed and read the game well during his loan spell but so, so left footed. Consensus amongst our group was that we'd overpaid and that for the money spent we'd expect someone who could do something, anything like make a simple pass with their weaker foot. Didn't expect to make money from the signing but the fall from grace was quite spectacular and unexpected by us. Just getting his wages off the payroll at that point could have been considered a success so any fee from Fulham was a real result. Fulham ST holder I know just shrugs his shoulders and puts it down as another multi million pound waste of money in their long list of them. We're not the only club that's made them but much less able than Fulham to absorb them.
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Post by royrace on Jun 6, 2024 11:35:29 GMT 1
Top quality player let down by his attitude and injury record, both of which were evident when we signed him. SSDD!
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Post by Captainslapper on Jun 6, 2024 12:01:37 GMT 1
TK was superb at times on loan. After we signed him permanently I remember thinking he'd play one more season for us and be sold for a tidy profit. shows what I know. Sweet FA. (I also thought Dwayne Mattis looked great in his first few games, that Brahima Diarra was a total baller and that somewhere within Isaac Mbenza there was a real player) Seemed very committed and read the game well during his loan spell but so, so left footed. Consensus amongst our group was that we'd overpaid and that for the money spent we'd expect someone who could do something, anything like make a simple pass with their weaker foot. Didn't expect to make money from the signing but the fall from grace was quite spectacular and unexpected by us. Just getting his wages off the payroll at that point could have been considered a success so any fee from Fulham was a real result. Fulham ST holder I know just shrugs his shoulders and puts it down as another multi million pound waste of money in their long list of them. We're not the only club that's made them but much less able than Fulham to absorb them. £18m was a hell of a lot for us, even amongst the other big signings we made, but for a player of his age on the fringes of the Dutch national team and with a World Cup bronze medal to his name, I actually don't think it was excessive. Probably quite a normal amount for a player of that stature, particularly when he'd just really impressed the buying club for the past 5 or 6 months. At the time I honestly thought we'd struggle to keep him and would be making a big profit on him within a year or two. Were all guessing what he's like as a character but taking things at face value he could well be a great example of that modern day player who earns so much at such a young age that he'll never have to work again in his life,,and then cant motivate himself to still be that same player.
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Post by k1man999 on Jun 6, 2024 12:33:14 GMT 1
Was it Bristol city away he played and left back and it was one of the worst performances I've ever seen Think we were down 5-0 at half time Ended up walking out and going pub only 2nd time ive done that (port vale when 4-0 down and relegated) we were awful and he was abysmal
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Post by leroy212 on Jun 6, 2024 12:54:56 GMT 1
Was it Bristol city away he played and left back and it was one of the worst performances I've ever seen Think we were down 5-0 at half time Ended up walking out and going pub only 2nd time ive done that (port vale when 4-0 down and relegated) we were awful and he was abysmal Only stayed till end as only live 20 mins away otherwise would have left early. That was one of worst games I've ever watched us play
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Post by uptownfunk on Jun 6, 2024 13:05:06 GMT 1
I have to be honest and say that I thought he was the best defender I’d seen at Town- during his loan spell. He was a collosus- he even deserved his song because very few did get past him. I remeber we’d played Spurs and they’d just paid £40M for Davison Sanchez and I swore down to my my sours supporting mate that Terrence was a better player and much better value!!
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Post by SacTown on Jun 6, 2024 13:11:25 GMT 1
Has he been injured or has he just refused to transfer away from Fulham? He was injured for lengthy spells, think he broke his foot or something at the Etihad not long after signing and never found his way back in. He's been on loan at Le Havre and Rapid Vienna.
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Post by Convictatthemac on Jun 6, 2024 13:38:30 GMT 1
I have to be honest and say that I thought he was the best defender I’d seen at Town- during his loan spell. He was a collosus- he even deserved his song because very few did get past him. I remeber we’d played Spurs and they’d just paid £40M for Davison Sanchez and I swore down to my my sours supporting mate that Terrence was a better player and much better value!! He was a colossus for us on loan. The 14 matches he started at the end of the season we only conceded 18 goals. In the 14 matches before that, we conceded 28. He played a big part in why we stayed up in that first season.
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Post by Carlito Brigante on Jun 6, 2024 14:10:22 GMT 1
Was it Bristol city away he played and left back and it was one of the worst performances I've ever seen Wasn’t even the only game. Went to watch him at PNE and he was garbage, couldn’t be arsed. They couldn’t believe we’d paid £17m for him, shows how some players only want to play Premier League football. Don’t remember ever being as angry at a player for their performance than that effort He looked like he was wandering around in a drunken haze
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Post by rockwall on Jun 6, 2024 15:10:50 GMT 1
Wasn’t even the only game. Went to watch him at PNE and he was garbage, couldn’t be arsed. They couldn’t believe we’d paid £17m for him, shows how some players only want to play Premier League football. Don’t remember ever being as angry at a player for their performance than that effort He looked like he was wandering around in a drunken haze The softest performance I have witnessed. Think it was their 1st goal, ball crossed to the far post, Kongolos all day long to get clear, he moved away from the ball and then backed out of the challenge when Prestons attacker ran to meet it. Right in front of the town fans too. Absolute disgrace of a player once he got his permanent deal. Never known a player be as vital and key when wantong a deal to being so so shit once bought.
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Post by tepidterrier on Jun 6, 2024 15:20:04 GMT 1
To reiterate what others have said, he was magnificent on loan, the signing made sense, he probably earnt the club his fee from the amount he contributed to keeping us up.
He was absolutely disgraceful in the championship, at the time I just thought he couldn't play in a back 4, but looking back on it he just couldn't be arsed. Also heard he had some issues with drinking?
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Post by htafcokay on Jun 6, 2024 15:23:48 GMT 1
To reiterate what others have said, he was magnificent on loan, the signing made sense, he probably earnt the club his fee from the amount he contributed to keeping us up. He was absolutely disgraceful in the championship, at the time I just thought he couldn't play in a back 4, but looking back on it he just couldn't be arsed. Also heard he had some issues with drinking?Pissed up in Manchester all the time.
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Post by Floyds on Jun 6, 2024 15:34:52 GMT 1
not especially, but the paying public don't seem to mind. (you can't trust them though, they voted for the nazis and like coldplay) "People like lager and nuts."
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Post by Fish & Chips on Jun 6, 2024 16:17:21 GMT 1
According to wiki he's only played 99 games since he joined Monaco in 2017/18, 56 of those for us. He has 4 full international caps, I can only think the Dutch had serious injury problems at the time, he's just another below average player who will have become be a multi millionaire due to crazy spending in the premier league, the money we wasted on shit like him is heart breaking . They thought they’d won the lottery when they joined us. Hope we never waste money like this again. That said Kongolo was excellent during his loan spell.
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Post by allan 1958 (OAF-WROY)(SSLFF) on Jun 6, 2024 16:52:48 GMT 1
Thought that was what we paid for him? Sorry, yes you are correct. I misread some Fulham fans discussing him on Twitter. They paid £4 million. I instantly take back any praise I gave the club for this. 4 mill was good business
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Post by allan 1958 (OAF-WROY)(SSLFF) on Jun 6, 2024 16:53:58 GMT 1
To reiterate what others have said, he was magnificent on loan, the signing made sense, he probably earnt the club his fee from the amount he contributed to keeping us up. He was absolutely disgraceful in the championship, at the time I just thought he couldn't play in a back 4, but looking back on it he just couldn't be arsed. Also heard he had some issues with drinking?Pissed up in Manchester all the time. Well a c*** then
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Post by philatrickstarbuck on Jun 6, 2024 19:58:55 GMT 1
Chancer, downed tools in his 1st Championship game. Never will forgive him for walking around with his hands down his shorts after about 15 minutes in 🤬
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Post by Tim Nice But Dim on Jun 6, 2024 21:02:10 GMT 1
Who was in charge of bringing players in during our Premiership years and don't say it was DH. DH took the advice that these were the players we needed so he must have sanctioned them but he wasn't responsible for bringing then here
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Post by space hardware on Jun 6, 2024 21:06:13 GMT 1
Terry K was one of the best defenders I've seen at Town, during that loan spell.
Instrumental in keeping us up in 2018 which, looking back, was probably the start of our downfall 😂
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Post by Oblong of Dreams on Jun 6, 2024 22:07:18 GMT 1
Don’t remember ever being as angry at a player for their performance than that effort He looked like he was wandering around in a drunken haze The softest performance I have witnessed. Think it was their 1st goal, ball crossed to the far post, Kongolos all day long to get clear, he moved away from the ball and then backed out of the challenge when Prestons attacker ran to meet it. Right in front of the town fans too. Absolute disgrace of a player once he got his permanent deal. Never known a player be as vital and key when wantong a deal to being so so shit once bought. Simon Baldry always used to pull out some great performances as his contract got close to the end... He didn't cost us the best part of £20m though!
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Post by Ross83 on Jun 6, 2024 22:17:25 GMT 1
I have to be honest and say that I thought he was the best defender I’d seen at Town- during his loan spell. He was a collosus- he even deserved his song because very few did get past him. I remeber we’d played Spurs and they’d just paid £40M for Davison Sanchez and I swore down to my my sours supporting mate that Terrence was a better player and much better value!! I would agree if I'd not had the pleasure of watching Ken Monkou in his brief spell. I drew similarities between the two when I saw Kongolo play, shame their careers took much different paths.
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Post by Oblong of Dreams on Jun 6, 2024 22:19:21 GMT 1
Pissed up in Manchester all the time. Well a c*** then At the very least he should've got pissed in local pubs!
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Post by mosher on Jun 7, 2024 14:57:59 GMT 1
Sorry, yes you are correct. I misread some Fulham fans discussing him on Twitter. They paid £4 million. I instantly take back any praise I gave the club for this. From what they said at the time, the deal saw Fulham pay off whatever we owed Monaco for Kongolo. Funny though, I don't remember many rumblings at the time of his signing. I think I was one of the few that DIDN'T think he was the love child of Virgil Van Dyke and Bobby Moore! Thought he was just a more expensive version of Efe: big, resolute, hard, but with the huge potential for catastrophe. I seemed to be in a minority but (even on loan) I thought he was close to being a liability and got away with loads of penalty decisions. When we paid £17m for him I thought it was something from Sunday Sport
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Post by htafcokay on Jun 7, 2024 15:40:52 GMT 1
From what they said at the time, the deal saw Fulham pay off whatever we owed Monaco for Kongolo. Funny though, I don't remember many rumblings at the time of his signing. I think I was one of the few that DIDN'T think he was the love child of Virgil Van Dyke and Bobby Moore! Thought he was just a more expensive version of Efe: big, resolute, hard, but with the huge potential for catastrophe. I seemed to be in a minority but (even on loan) I thought he was close to being a liability and got away with loads of penalty decisions. When we paid £17m for him I thought it was something from Sunday Sport I thought he was decent enough but said at the time that we shouldn't have paid £17m for him. It was too much for a club like Town to be spending.
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Post by mosher on Jun 7, 2024 15:42:54 GMT 1
I think I was one of the few that DIDN'T think he was the love child of Virgil Van Dyke and Bobby Moore! Thought he was just a more expensive version of Efe: big, resolute, hard, but with the huge potential for catastrophe. I seemed to be in a minority but (even on loan) I thought he was close to being a liability and got away with loads of penalty decisions. When we paid £17m for him I thought it was something from Sunday Sport I thought he was decent enough but said at the time that we shouldn't have paid £17m for him. It was too much for a club like Town to be spending. Maybe I'm (or was) doing him a disservice, but every time a player came close to him I had the same kind of heart palpitations I did when Efe was approached near or in the box. I thought he got away with quite a few tackles that could (and should) have been penalties. Not that I cared at the time when they weren't given Edit: Just to say I didn't think he was shit per se (just like I never thought Efe was shit) I just worried when the player and/or ball got close to him in the area.
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Post by htafcokay on Jun 7, 2024 15:48:12 GMT 1
I thought he was decent enough but said at the time that we shouldn't have paid £17m for him. It was too much for a club like Town to be spending. Maybe I'm (or was) doing him a disservice, but every time a player came close to him I had the same kind of heart palpitations I did when Efe was approached near or in the box. I thought he got away with quite a few tackles that could (and should) have been penalties. Not that I cared at the time when they weren't given Edit: Just to say I didn't think he was shit per se (just like I never thought Efe was shit) I just worried when the player and/or ball got close to him in the area. I found him very unorthodox. He also used to walk like he needed a hip replacement. But he came in and did well. I do think a lot of fans were blinded by some of the occasions where he literally smashed people up in the air, which as you say could and should have been penalties, but he did improve us at the end of that first season, definitely. He was good on loan, but was never ever worth £17m. He showed his true colours the following seasons where he, and a whole host of others, couldn't be arsed.
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Post by detox on Jun 7, 2024 15:50:15 GMT 1
Didn't we buy someone else from Monaco,was it Mounie ?.
Wonder who did the background on Kongolo that convinced DH to splash all that cash...
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Post by Mastercracker on Jun 7, 2024 16:53:31 GMT 1
Maybe I'm (or was) doing him a disservice, but every time a player came close to him I had the same kind of heart palpitations I did when Efe was approached near or in the box. I thought he got away with quite a few tackles that could (and should) have been penalties. Not that I cared at the time when they weren't given Edit: Just to say I didn't think he was shit per se (just like I never thought Efe was shit) I just worried when the player and/or ball got close to him in the area. I found him very unorthodox. He also used to walk like he needed a hip replacement. But he came in and did well. I do think a lot of fans were blinded by some of the occasions where he literally smashed people up in the air, which as you say could and should have been penalties, but he did improve us at the end of that first season, definitely. He was good on loan, but was never ever worth £17m. He showed his true colours the following seasons where he, and a whole host of others, couldn't be arsed. The problem here was he was very good as a LCB because of the ground he could cover but thats a bit niche, especially at £17m and for a club that wasn't always playing a back 3. At Premier League level he wasn't really a CB in a pairing and wasn't really a LB. The other problem with his price was Monaco paid about £10m...then played him 3 times, yet made £7m in 12 months. I'm not going to lie I wanted us to sign him, but 1) I didn't know he was a bellend, the club maybe should have after 6 months and 2) we overpaid by £5-7M
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