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Post by specialun on Jul 22, 2024 19:05:57 GMT 1
Don't understand what's going on with Nicholls, he is there but Maxwell is playing the full 90. Does Duff just not rate him? Probably won’t be here But what is there to rate? Nicholls was brilliant in the play of season. Since? He had the worst shot save percentage in the championship last season of any keeper who made more than 20 appearances |
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Post by terriersyndrome on Jul 22, 2024 19:06:23 GMT 1
Couldn’t sum this up better myself. But people will still say they’re ‘good enough’ - whatever that means… Add Hogg to that and it's like dad's army trying to keep clean sheets |
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Post by ezzie on Jul 22, 2024 19:06:37 GMT 1
Couldn’t sum this up better myself. But people will still say they’re ‘good enough’ - whatever that means… "They'll be class in League One". 😂 maybe in their primes.. |
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Post by rougeboy31 on Jul 22, 2024 19:06:37 GMT 1
Couldn’t sum this up better myself. But people will still say they’re ‘good enough’ - whatever that means… There’s certain town fans who love what I would call ‘Brexit’ players, meaning traditional players with no skill who still play football like it’s the 80s. Add to that they’ve watched these clowns over the last two seasons and still think they’ll be good, why? |
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Post by terriersyndrome on Jul 22, 2024 19:08:45 GMT 1
Still a load of cloggers defending the goal. We needed better last season, nothing has changed.
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Post by Terrier Ramone on Jul 22, 2024 19:08:59 GMT 1
Couldn’t sum this up better myself. But people will still say they’re ‘good enough’ - whatever that means… Of course they are good enough, their experience, willingness to battle & aerial ability will be more than good enough in League 1. The team we played against today would be comfortably top end Championship, with pace to burn up front. We will not meet a team in League 1 with the speed & movement Aris had playing today. If everyone stays, I expect the 3 CBs will be Pearson, Helik & Spencer. Why are you so disrespectful against players that have served us so well & will continue to do so? |
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Post by ezzie on Jul 22, 2024 19:09:59 GMT 1
Couldn’t sum this up better myself. But people will still say they’re ‘good enough’ - whatever that means… There’s certain town fans who love what I would call ‘Brexit’ players, meaning traditional players with no skill who still play football like it’s the 80s. Add to that they’ve watched these clowns over the last two seasons and still think they’ll be good, why? Exactly 👋🏼. Losers mentality, no pace, limited footballing IQ, limited passing ranges, the list goes on. Yet people wondered why I was gutted Balker has broken his ankle. |
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Post by royrace on Jul 22, 2024 19:10:30 GMT 1
are they still part-timers? They got to Q3 champions league qualifiers and played Europa league last season. Hopefully they're as good as some on here think. Listed as part time on wiki, play in the Cypriot league and have a squad value of £10M less than ours! Played Rangers last season which apparently makes them world beaters!? Slightly concerned they appear to have out classed us tbh but will reserve judgement! |
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Post by Arbie 1976. on Jul 22, 2024 19:12:40 GMT 1
Disjointed after 61 minute changes. Kazumo not up to speed nor do I think he will be. Ward, time to go, 3 goals all avoidable and hardly any attempts on goal. First half team played well. UTT
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Post by ezzie on Jul 22, 2024 19:15:07 GMT 1
Couldn’t sum this up better myself. But people will still say they’re ‘good enough’ - whatever that means… Of course they are good enough, their experience, willingness to battle & aerial ability will be more than good enough in League 1. The team we played against today would be comfortably top end Championship, with pace to burn up front. We will not meet a team in League 1 with the speed & movement Aris had playing today. If everyone stays, I expect the 3 CBs will be Pearson, Helik & Spencer. Why are you so disrespectful against players that have served us so well & will continue to do so? Disrespect?? It’s factual. I’ll give you that they’ve ‘served’ us, but not that they’ve been particularly ‘served us so well’. This isn’t an attack but there’s a serious mentality issue at town for years with fans with minds like yourselves. We need/are having massive changes and it’s very much needed |
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Post by royrace on Jul 22, 2024 19:15:37 GMT 1
There’s certain town fans who love what I would call ‘Brexit’ players, meaning traditional players with no skill who still play football like it’s the 80s. Add to that they’ve watched these clowns over the last two seasons and still think they’ll be good, why? Exactly 👋🏼. Losers mentality, no pace, limited footballing IQ, limited passing ranges, the list goes on. Yet people wondered why I was gutted Balker has broken his ankle. Think you need to calm down a bit. One friendly and you seem to have decided the town back three is fit for the knackers yard, and Balker, who you've seen next to nothing of, was the second coming. Limited football IQ?!  are you on about  |
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Post by cyberman on Jul 22, 2024 19:15:50 GMT 1
Disjointed after 61 minute changes. Kazumo not up to speed nor do I think he will be. Ward, time to go, 3 goals all avoidable and hardly any attempts on goal. First half team played well. UTT Why is 3 Wood off to the nearest golf course - whats German for Golf Course anyway ? PS ward should have been gone 2 seasons ago......Colin saw to it that he wasnt ! |
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Post by Kenny irons on Jul 22, 2024 19:21:16 GMT 1
Work to be done
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Post by kimbo999 on Jul 22, 2024 19:21:38 GMT 1
Still a load of cloggers defending the goal. We needed better last season, nothing has changed. None of them can play 3 at the back need pace and positional know how. They have been poor at it for last seasons when we have played it. I don't like Spencer on the left either can't use his left foot be better on the right of the 3 can cover well. I know it's pre season and we will be leggy and not up to speed but we still looked to lack any attacking know how, hardly any chances created Healey looked isolated, ward ,harratt didn't know they were on the pitch |
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Post by Terrier Ramone on Jul 22, 2024 19:24:36 GMT 1
Of course they are good enough, their experience, willingness to battle & aerial ability will be more than good enough in League 1. The team we played against today would be comfortably top end Championship, with pace to burn up front. We will not meet a team in League 1 with the speed & movement Aris had playing today. If everyone stays, I expect the 3 CBs will be Pearson, Helik & Spencer. Why are you so disrespectful against players that have served us so well & will continue to do so? Disrespect?? It’s factual. I’ll give you that they’ve ‘served’ us, but not that they’ve been particularly ‘served us so well’. This isn’t an attack but there’s a serious mentality issue at town for years with fans with minds like yourselves. We need/are having massive changes and it’s very much needed Are you puddled? How can it be factual when they've never played in League 1 for us? Lees & Pearson were stalwarts in a team that were robbed at Wembley when we could have easily have been promoted to the Premier League. Did you watch the game today or are you just guessing? |
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Post by rockwall on Jul 22, 2024 19:27:14 GMT 1
Some people really don't understand pre season friendlies.
After a double training session, that was a very good performance.
None of the players tonight will have been at 100% in mind or body after double training.
It's all about getting leggy and becoming fitter and sharper through that.
We played a team who competed in Europe last season and were close to actually getting into the CL.
The goals conceded, Ruffels too slow tracking to the runner and then at fault for the 2nd with the lunge. That already showed the tiredness due to the sessions earlier in the day.
No doubt the performance will be similar on Thursday against Hertha Berlin.
Lecce will be the one where I am expecting to see the hard work slowly paying off and the players looking sharper and more agile.
The scoreline means nothing in these games.
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Post by nickhtafc82 on Jul 22, 2024 19:27:22 GMT 1
The changes killed us. Kas was way off, did Ward touch the ball? Struggle to pick out a positive performance among the subs.
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Post by rockwall on Jul 22, 2024 19:28:37 GMT 1
There’s certain town fans who love what I would call ‘Brexit’ players, meaning traditional players with no skill who still play football like it’s the 80s. Add to that they’ve watched these clowns over the last two seasons and still think they’ll be good, why? Exactly 👋🏼. Losers mentality, no pace, limited footballing IQ, limited passing ranges, the list goes on. Yet people wondered why I was gutted Balker has broken his ankle. Says a lot for your IQ when you're spouting absolute nonsense. |
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Post by htafcokay on Jul 22, 2024 19:28:38 GMT 1
Disrespect?? It’s factual. I’ll give you that they’ve ‘served’ us, but not that they’ve been particularly ‘served us so well’. This isn’t an attack but there’s a serious mentality issue at town for years with fans with minds like yourselves. We need/are having massive changes and it’s very much needed Are you puddled? How can it be factual when they've never played in League 1 for us? Lees & Pearson were stalwarts in a team that were robbed at Wembley when we could have easily have been promoted to the Premier League. Did you watch the game today or are you just guessing? They were also stalwarts in a team that were struggling at the bottom for each of the last two years. It's not disrespectful to recognise that they are probably past their best and that perhaps we need some better defenders. |
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Post by htafcokay on Jul 22, 2024 19:29:29 GMT 1
Some people really don't understand ore season friendlies. After a double training session, that was a very good performance. None of the players tonight will have been at 100% in mind or body after double training. It's all about getting leggy and becoming fitter and sharper through that. We played a team who competed in Europe last season and were close to actually getting into the CL. The goals conceded, Ruffels too slow tracking to the runner and then at fault for the 2nd with the lunge. That already showed the tiredness due to the sessions earlier in the day. No doubt the performance will be similar on Thursday against Hertha Berlin. Lecce will be the one where I am expecting to see the hard work slowly paying off and the players looking sharper and more agile. The scoreline means nothing in these games. Pre-season games mean nothing anyway, they're training games. They meant nothing last season either, despite some people trying to pin the blame of the relegation on those pre-season games... |
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Post by htafcokay on Jul 22, 2024 19:30:00 GMT 1
The changes killed us. Kas was way off, did Ward touch the ball? Struggle to pick out a positive performance among the subs. He'll be class in League One. |
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Post by terriersyndrome on Jul 22, 2024 19:30:45 GMT 1
Two new CBs, a defensive midfielder and a couple of strikers minimum. Plenty still needed but don't trust our people at the top to get it right. The fact that Cartwright had to re-interview for his job after the disaster last season is a massive red flag to me.
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Post by htafcokay on Jul 22, 2024 19:31:41 GMT 1
Two new CBs, a defensive midfielder and a couple of strikers minimum. Plenty still needed but don't trust our people at the top to get it right. The fact that Cartwright had to re-interview for his job after the disaster last season is a massive red flag to me. I just saw that as usual practice for Nagle? |
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Post by rockwall on Jul 22, 2024 19:31:50 GMT 1
Some people really don't understand ore season friendlies. After a double training session, that was a very good performance. None of the players tonight will have been at 100% in mind or body after double training. It's all about getting leggy and becoming fitter and sharper through that. We played a team who competed in Europe last season and were close to actually getting into the CL. The goals conceded, Ruffels too slow tracking to the runner and then at fault for the 2nd with the lunge. That already showed the tiredness due to the sessions earlier in the day. No doubt the performance will be similar on Thursday against Hertha Berlin. Lecce will be the one where I am expecting to see the hard work slowly paying off and the players looking sharper and more agile. The scoreline means nothing in these games. Pre-season games mean nothing anyway, they're training games. They meant nothing last season either, despite some people trying to pin the blame of the relegation on those pre-season games... Agree. I felt the only issue last season was not at least having 1 challenge. Nothing wrong in the opposition we played, after the previous season it was more about team morale and confidence. Warnock did that tour most years and nobody ever complained. |
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Jul 22, 2024 19:32:23 GMT 1
What's with this obsession around pace.
When we last got promoted out of this division, these were our defenders:
Callum Woods
Gary Naysmith
Peter Clarke
Jamie Mccombe
Tom Clarke
Sean Morrison
Antony Kay
Unless this division has transformed completely in 12 years and is now filled with speed merchants up front then I don't see the concern. Experience and reading of the game is enough at this level as shown by the players above and the likes of Richard Wood being one of the divisions best defenders well in to his late 30s despite looking like he's towing a caravan
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Post by Tim Nice But Dim on Jul 22, 2024 19:32:41 GMT 1
I am very disappointed we still have Harratt on our books, no doubt he will still have his fans on here!!.
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Post by duncfost01 on Jul 22, 2024 19:32:56 GMT 1
My Thoughts after playing a much stronger opposition - we won't play against that every week in league one. Plus we dont know how much the players trained in the morning, as they did look leggy.
Maxwell 6 - some great saves but a couple of soft ones - needs more strength.
Defenders
ruffels - 4 clearly lack game time.
Lees - unfair to judge as he is behind the others
Pearson - 4 Just too slow.
Helik - 6 hope we dont lose him
Spencer - 4 probably not as fit as he needs to be.
Turton 6 - thought he did okay and he has been out for a long time
Midfield
Hogg 6 - slow at times but had positive impact at times.
Kane 6 - looks a bit rusty but you can see his quality
Evans 6 - certainly knows how to take a free kick, Grew into the game.
Kasumu 3 - looked off the pace
Wiles 3 - looked off the pace
Miller 7 - Our best player I thought.
Headley 5 - sometimes great, sometimes naive.
Iorpenda 6 - Playing himself into the team. Very composed.
Sorenson 5 - gave the ball away an awful lot. Nothing positive going forward.
Jones 4 - didnt get much of the ball.
Strikers
Healey 6 - didnt get my service but offered himself.
Koroma 6 - good and bad as usual
Harratt - 4 did nothing of any note.
Ward - 3 Our highest paid player. had zero effect in his cameo performance.
Conclusion
If we lose Sorba we need a replacement. We are desperate for a striker. We lack pace in defence and that's a worry.
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Post by ruggedivy on Jul 22, 2024 19:33:02 GMT 1
Good run out! Onto the next one!
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Post by ezzie on Jul 22, 2024 19:33:53 GMT 1
Exactly 👋🏼. Losers mentality, no pace, limited footballing IQ, limited passing ranges, the list goes on. Yet people wondered why I was gutted Balker has broken his ankle. Think you need to calm down a bit. One friendly and you seem to have decided the town back three is fit for the knackers yard, and Balker, who you've seen next to nothing of, was the second coming. Limited football IQ?! are you on about 🙈 one friendly. Have you watched any of the last <insert number> seasons. Progressively worse. |
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Post by dezzly on Jul 22, 2024 19:34:17 GMT 1
As stands starters would be a mixture of the two sides tonight.
Looked off pace other than 10 end first half and 10 start of second.for time being I’ll put that down to the mention of double session yesterday trained this morning couple with opposition being 2 weeks in front of us.Work to do though.
Maybe wouldn’t read too much into Nicholls not playing,he may play full 90 next game.Sorba though hmmm I dunno.
Areas of concern if base everything on tonight’s performance would be pace at back,even if presume Spencer starts.Also Kane and evans quality on ball but seem to lack pace too,combined with Hogg would be weakness.Kasumu fills the pace void but poor on the ball.
Ruffels caught on ball and few time positionally,turton passing dreadful.Lees clearly rusty.
Much work to do,also highlights we do really probably need 1 if not 2 pacey centre halves,a defensive mid who’s fairly quick but also half decent on ball and then the striker obviously too.
That said plenty time to improve and was a good test.
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