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Post by 28901 on Aug 24, 2024 22:56:19 GMT 1
The amount of players who get injured without even playing ..
What the actual fuck are they doing?
Usually disappear for months as well.
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Post by Floyds on Aug 25, 2024 7:48:19 GMT 1
Surprised Ward hasn’t picked up a “knock” yet but surely that can’t be too far away.
If you sign players with injury records like Balker and Healey and soft lads like the other striker then it’s not too surprising they don’t make it onto the pitch.
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Post by leroy212 on Aug 25, 2024 8:01:06 GMT 1
It's crazy to think when we had Wagner the squad hardly had any long term injuries and now everyone seems to be out for weeks or months at a time
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Post by detox on Aug 25, 2024 8:08:52 GMT 1
It's crazy to think when we had Wagner the squad hardly had any long term injuries and now everyone seems to be out for weeks or months at a time The advances in sports science and medical diagnosis seem to have by-passed Huddersfield Town
Some 54 years ago, (before science was invented...) Town won the Division 2 (championship) title using just 15 players all season, and 7 of them played every single game !...
So why is this generation so bloody feeble...? .. I mean it's virtually a non contact sport now, compared with the 'good old days'...
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Post by ben1987 on Aug 25, 2024 9:08:36 GMT 1
The amount of players who get injured without even playing .. What the actual fuck are they doing? Usually disappear for months as well. It’s been a problem that’s plagued us for a number years now, our medical department needs looking at. We need to know why we get so many short term and long term injuries. I think the sacking of Dr John Iga was a big big mistake, fwiw. |
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Post by colnevalleyblue on Aug 25, 2024 10:37:44 GMT 1
The amount of players who get injured without even playing .. What the actual fuck are they doing? Usually disappear for months as well. It’s been a problem that’s plagued us for a number years now, our medical department needs looking at. We need to know why we get so many short term and long term injuries. I think the sacking of Dr John Iga was a big big mistake, fwiw. Was Dr John sacked or did he quit? If he was sacked then that's a real shame. The man was excellent. |
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Post by JG Mellor on Aug 25, 2024 11:01:57 GMT 1
It's crazy to think when we had Wagner the squad hardly had any long term injuries and now everyone seems to be out for weeks or months at a time The advances in sports science and medical diagnosis seem to have by-passed Huddersfield Town Some 54 years ago, (before science was invented...) Town won the Division 2 (championship) title using just 15 players all season, and 7 of them played every single game !... So why is this generation so bloody feeble...? .. I mean it's virtually a non contact sport now, compared with the 'good old days'...
[/quote Players are so finely tuned now fitness wise, that they're always on the margin of pulling some muscle or other, or worse. |
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Post by joeyjoneslocker on Aug 25, 2024 11:40:16 GMT 1
It's crazy to think when we had Wagner the squad hardly had any long term injuries and now everyone seems to be out for weeks or months at a time The advances in sports science and medical diagnosis seem to have by-passed Huddersfield Town
Some 54 years ago, (before science was invented...) Town won the Division 2 (championship) title using just 15 players all season, and 7 of them played every single game !...
So why is this generation so bloody feeble...? .. I mean it's virtually a non contact sport now, compared with the 'good old days'...
Back in the day, the body became stronger due to the physical impact of the game. The body needs measured impact in physical sport to adapt and strengthen. I honestly think that because it’s barely a contact sport now, players are getting injured more easily. They may all look like they have a six pack and defined muscles, which is all well and good for running long distance and short bursts but one meaty challenge and they are as soft as shit. We were lucky under Wagner regarding injuries, hardly any, but very rare nowadays. |
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Post by uptownfunk on Aug 25, 2024 11:47:55 GMT 1
Surprised Ward hasn’t picked up a “knock” yet but surely that can’t be too far away. If you sign players with injury records like Balker and Healey and soft lads like the other striker then it’s not too surprising they don’t make it onto the pitch. Those in charge of procurement were given a very generous stay of execution. There was literally no point signing Balker or Healey. A lot of money just poured down the drain. If it was me I’d never have someone else making these decisions with my money cos they don’t know any better than I do. |
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Post by SN0W on Aug 25, 2024 12:00:17 GMT 1
The advances in sports science and medical diagnosis seem to have by-passed Huddersfield Town Some 54 years ago, (before science was invented...) Town won the Division 2 (championship) title using just 15 players all season, and 7 of them played every single game !... So why is this generation so bloody feeble...? .. I mean it's virtually a non contact sport now, compared with the 'good old days'...
Back in the day, the body became stronger due to the physical impact of the game. The body needs measured impact in physical sport to adapt and strengthen. I honestly think that because it’s barely a contact sport now, players are getting injured more easily. They may all look like they have a six pack and defined muscles, which is all well and good for running long distance and short bursts but one meaty challenge and they are as soft as shit. We were lucky under Wagner regarding injuries, hardly any, but very rare nowadays. ..and we had only one sub, but we still managed. They don't make them like Chopper McGill anymore. |
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Aug 25, 2024 12:11:47 GMT 1
Players making stupid decisions don't help either.
We've lost Balker for a long period because be decided to jog back against Harrogate rather than sprinting to get there first and an easy pass back to the keeper
Spencer got injured yesterday because he decided to jog and give the lad a head start before sprinting. He would have been comfortably first to that ball without a challenge being put on him if he had just sprinted from the start
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Post by Paphos Terrier on Aug 25, 2024 12:19:58 GMT 1
Duff said "Herbie felt his groin in training, he'll be sidelined for 3 to 4 weeks.
What a joke sports science is, get him back on the pitch next week and tell him to run it off like we used to do week in week out.
Bill Shankley would never talk to a player if he said 'he was injured' . He'd just walk straight past him in the corridor as if he didn't exist.
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Post by ben1987 on Aug 25, 2024 13:02:31 GMT 1
It’s been a problem that’s plagued us for a number years now, our medical department needs looking at. We need to know why we get so many short term and long term injuries. I think the sacking of Dr John Iga was a big big mistake, fwiw. Was Dr John sacked or did he quit? If he was sacked then that's a real shame. The man was excellent. Sacked, sadly. |
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Post by uptownfunk on Aug 25, 2024 13:09:03 GMT 1
Was Dr John sacked or did he quit? If he was sacked then that's a real shame. The man was excellent. Sacked, sadly. Top man was the Doc, as was Lee Martin the physio and ex keeper. I reckon they’d have got more minutes out of todays players than we do now.. feel Something in training- 4 weeks out. |
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Post by SacTown on Aug 25, 2024 13:19:01 GMT 1
It’s been a problem that’s plagued us for a number years now, our medical department needs looking at. We need to know why we get so many short term and long term injuries. I think the sacking of Dr John Iga was a big big mistake, fwiw. Was Dr John sacked or did he quit? If he was sacked then that's a real shame. The man was excellent. He was relieved of his responsibilities and got a nice compo 😉 |
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Post by tyketaffy on Aug 25, 2024 13:21:31 GMT 1
It's crazy to think when we had Wagner the squad hardly had any long term injuries and now everyone seems to be out for weeks or months at a time The advances in sports science and medical diagnosis seem to have by-passed Huddersfield Town
Some 54 years ago, (before science was invented...) Town won the Division 2 (championship) title using just 15 players all season, and 7 of them played every single game !...
So why is this generation so bloody feeble...? .. I mean it's virtually a non contact sport now, compared with the 'good old days'...
I remember two bad injuries about that time (maybe not the championship season though ?), Steve Kindon broke his cheek bone and came back playing in a skull cap and Dave Sutton got his face ripped open going up for a ball and the opponent caught his face with a ring on his finger. But no matter how hard they got kicked they never seemed to miss a game in that era. Steve Kindon once told us the tale about when he played for Wolves against Liverpool Tommy Smith studded him and gave away a free kick, they took the kick and Kindon got the ball and Smith studded him again. But Kindon said when he looked at the damage the stud holes were in exactly the same place both times  |
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Post by tepidterrier on Aug 25, 2024 13:29:44 GMT 1
Duff said "Herbie felt his groin in training, he'll be sidelined for 3 to 4 weeks. What a joke sports science is, get him back on the pitch next week and tell him to run it off like we used to do week in week out. Bill Shankley would never talk to a player if he said 'he was injured' . He'd just walk straight past him in the corridor as if he didn't exist. Absolute codswallop. While players can play while not 100% fit, it increases the chances of them getting knackered in the long term, and makes the injuries themselves worse and more likely to re-occur. The game is also far more physically demanding than ever before. You can't get away with not being able to run anymore. Surprised to hear that of Shankly, doesn't sound like the behaviour of the great man manager and motivator that he was. |
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Post by rockwall on Aug 25, 2024 13:31:48 GMT 1
Surprised Ward hasn’t picked up a “knock” yet but surely that can’t be too far away. If you sign players with injury records like Balker and Healey and soft lads like the other striker then it’s not too surprising they don’t make it onto the pitch. Ward only gets injured when the going gets tough. |
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Post by Mav on Aug 25, 2024 13:38:11 GMT 1
It's crazy to think when we had Wagner the squad hardly had any long term injuries and now everyone seems to be out for weeks or months at a time The advances in sports science and medical diagnosis seem to have by-passed Huddersfield Town
Some 54 years ago, (before science was invented...) Town won the Division 2 (championship) title using just 15 players all season, and 7 of them played every single game !...
So why is this generation so bloody feeble...? .. I mean it's virtually a non contact sport now, compared with the 'good old days'...
That’s a great stat and on those pitches too!! |
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Post by allan 1958 (OAF-WROY)(SSLFF) on Aug 25, 2024 14:25:35 GMT 1
The advances in sports science and medical diagnosis seem to have by-passed Huddersfield Town
Some 54 years ago, (before science was invented...) Town won the Division 2 (championship) title using just 15 players all season, and 7 of them played every single game !...
So why is this generation so bloody feeble...? .. I mean it's virtually a non contact sport now, compared with the 'good old days'...
That’s a great stat and on those pitches too!! Different type of players, less athletes Balls weighed 3kg before they got wet Players played less The game was a lot slower Players played through injury and often paid a high price later in life Pitches were, well, ploughed fields? Not quite but close |
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Post by Mav on Aug 25, 2024 14:36:12 GMT 1
That’s a great stat and on those pitches too!! Different type of players, less athletes Balls weighed 3kg before they got wet Players played less The game was slot slower Players played through injury and often paid a high price later in life Pitches were, well, ploughed fields? Not quite but close And despite all that …. Less injuries. When men were men. 😊 |
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Post by allan 1958 (OAF-WROY)(SSLFF) on Aug 25, 2024 14:39:57 GMT 1
Different type of players, less athletes Balls weighed 3kg before they got wet Players played less The game was slot slower Players played through injury and often paid a high price later in life Pitches were, well, ploughed fields? Not quite but close And despite all that …. Less injuries. When men were men. 😊 More beer less diets and a real social life |
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Post by townarentbest on Aug 25, 2024 14:43:46 GMT 1
That’s a great stat and on those pitches too!! Different type of players, less athletes Balls weighed 3kg before they got wetPlayers played less The game was slot slower Players played through injury and often paid a high price later in life Pitches were, well, ploughed fields? Not quite but close That’s why the shorts were so much hardier than todays flimsy kit? |
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Post by digs on Aug 25, 2024 15:30:26 GMT 1
Surprised Ward hasn’t picked up a “knock” yet but surely that can’t be too far away. If you sign players with injury records like Balker and Healey and soft lads like the other striker then it’s not too surprising they don’t make it onto the pitch. Ward only gets injured when the going gets tough. Be getting the nickname Foreskin,dissappears when it gets hard |
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Post by harri54 on Aug 25, 2024 23:04:29 GMT 1
Duff said "Herbie felt his groin in training, he'll be sidelined for 3 to 4 weeks. What a joke sports science is, get him back on the pitch next week and tell him to run it off like we used to do week in week out. Bill Shankley would never talk to a player if he said 'he was injured' . He'd just walk straight past him in the corridor as if he didn't exist. And you for real? The value of HK as an asset is ? and you suggest risking that asset by running on an injury! When you park your car or leave your home do you leave your assets unlocked? |
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Post by keefer on Aug 25, 2024 23:53:41 GMT 1
The amount of players who get injured without even playing .. What the actual fuck are they doing? Usually disappear for months as well. It’s been a problem that’s plagued us for a number years now, our medical department needs looking at. We need to know why we get so many short term and long term injuries. I think the sacking of Dr John Iga was a big big mistake, fwiw. We've certainly missed the Gris Gris man |
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Post by ritchie on Aug 26, 2024 2:37:11 GMT 1
Players might have had more rough and tumble back in the day but thats totally different to muscle injuries.
Players push their bodies to the absolute limit these days (and folk would moan if they didnt!)
Granted, our record is piss poor and needs looking into. It's spanned across numerous management setups
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Post by Paphos Terrier on Aug 26, 2024 7:45:05 GMT 1
Duff said "Herbie felt his groin in training, he'll be sidelined for 3 to 4 weeks. What a joke sports science is, get him back on the pitch next week and tell him to run it off like we used to do week in week out. Bill Shankley would never talk to a player if he said 'he was injured' . He'd just walk straight past him in the corridor as if he didn't exist. And you for real? The value of HK as an asset is ? and you suggest risking that asset by running on an injury! When you park your car or leave your home do you leave your assets unlocked? I played Saturday and Sunday every week and sometimes I shouldn't but after 20 mins of running you've ran it off but I suspect you've never played hard football. A month off for a " he felt his groin" is laughable in my day. Players are soft today in this none contact sport, no shin pads of any note. Sorry I don't buy into all this stuff. |
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Post by joek on Aug 26, 2024 8:09:45 GMT 1
And you for real? The value of HK as an asset is ? and you suggest risking that asset by running on an injury! When you park your car or leave your home do you leave your assets unlocked? I played Saturday and Sunday every week and sometimes I shouldn't but after 20 mins of running you've ran it off but I suspect you've never played hard football. A month off for a " he felt his groin" is laughable in my day. Players are soft today in this none contact sport, no shin pads of any note. Sorry I don't buy into all this stuff. Sorry Paphos but think you’re miles off with this one. Not sure experiences playing amateur football on a weekend many years ago are comparable with professional football in 2024. Professional football teams up and down the land invest millions into this but you don’t buy into it? |
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Post by leroy212 on Aug 26, 2024 8:41:37 GMT 1
I played Saturday and Sunday every week and sometimes I shouldn't but after 20 mins of running you've ran it off but I suspect you've never played hard football. A month off for a " he felt his groin" is laughable in my day. Players are soft today in this none contact sport, no shin pads of any note. Sorry I don't buy into all this stuff. Sorry Paphos but think you’re miles off with this one. Not sure experiences playing amateur football on a weekend many years ago are comparable with professional football in 2024. Professional football teams up and down the land invest millions into this but you don’t buy into it? I don't know if it is massively off though. Look at the pitches as well. Smooth as silk and watered to the hilt are professional pitches. Sunday league pitches hard as a rock and never level. Surely running around on rock solid pitches is worse for the body |
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