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Post by themanfromatlantis on Aug 26, 2024 8:54:43 GMT 1
Sorry Paphos but think you’re miles off with this one. Not sure experiences playing amateur football on a weekend many years ago are comparable with professional football in 2024. Professional football teams up and down the land invest millions into this but you don’t buy into it? I don't know if it is massively off though. Look at the pitches as well. Smooth as silk and watered to the hilt are professional pitches. Sunday league pitches hard as a rock and never level. Surely running around on rock solid pitches is worse for the body I might have mentioned this before 🤔, but if you take a visit to St George’s Park, the umpteen pitches down there would be like bowling greens if you cut the grass low enough. I know that because I saw Digs in the car park with his ball bag, going to practice for his world title defence… |
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Post by bogart on Aug 26, 2024 9:33:53 GMT 1
And despite all that …. Less injuries. When men were men. 😊 More beer less diets and a real social life Especially on Saturday evening after the game. In reality though the fact every season we seem to pick up injuries without an opposition player being anywhere near really needs looking at. It has been going on for years something is basically amiss, no idea what but definitely needs addressing, and soon. |
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Post by Headless Chicken on Aug 26, 2024 9:39:34 GMT 1
Please delete this thread, I feel like I've lost more brain cells reading this than from the two days boozing in Newcastle 🤣🤯
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Post by joek on Aug 26, 2024 9:40:36 GMT 1
Sorry Paphos but think you’re miles off with this one. Not sure experiences playing amateur football on a weekend many years ago are comparable with professional football in 2024. Professional football teams up and down the land invest millions into this but you don’t buy into it? I don't know if it is massively off though. Look at the pitches as well. Smooth as silk and watered to the hilt are professional pitches. Sunday league pitches hard as a rock and never level. Surely running around on rock solid pitches is worse for the body Not comparing like with like though. Just not sure you can compare the experience of an amateur footballer playing weekend football with those of professional footballers. |
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Post by terriersyndrome on Aug 26, 2024 9:41:36 GMT 1
Surprised Ward hasn’t picked up a “knock” yet but surely that can’t be too far away. If you sign players with injury records like Balker and Healey and soft lads like the other striker then it’s not too surprising they don’t make it onto the pitch. You need to be involved in the game to pick up a knock, surely? On Saturday he had 14 touches of the ball with a 25% pass completion and 1 blocked shot. I can't believe he's still starting games for us. |
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Post by irverino on Aug 26, 2024 9:58:39 GMT 1
It's crazy to think when we had Wagner the squad hardly had any long term injuries and now everyone seems to be out for weeks or months at a time The advances in sports science and medical diagnosis seem to have by-passed Huddersfield Town Some 54 years ago, (before science was invented...) Town won the Division 2 (championship) title using just 15 players all season, and 7 of them played every single game !... So why is this generation so bloody feeble...? .. I mean it's virtually a non contact sport now, compared with the 'good old days'...
Boxing day at home to Sheffield United the day after away at Bristol City, Easter was worse with Pompey away on the Saturday then Hull at home on Easter Monday followed by Middlesbrough away on the (famous) Tuesday night......We won 3 & drew 2, what a team. |
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Post by harri54 on Aug 26, 2024 11:23:57 GMT 1
And you for real? The value of HK as an asset is ? and you suggest risking that asset by running on an injury! When you park your car or leave your home do you leave your assets unlocked? I played Saturday and Sunday every week and sometimes I shouldn't but after 20 mins of running you've ran it off but I suspect you've never played hard football. A month off for a " he felt his groin" is laughable in my day. Players are soft today in this none contact sport, no shin pads of any note. Sorry I don't buy into all this stuff. You're right, I've never played hard football. However, I've spent much of my 70 years playing squash. Had many injuries and was a fan of listening to my body and playing through injuries. It only worked some of the time and when it didn't it cost me dearly in playing time. If my living depended on it I would be bankrupt as a result of lost playing time and if I was someone else's asset they would have lost money on me through disregarding risks of a serious injury being too subtle to recognise without professional advice! |
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Post by nicovaesen on Aug 26, 2024 12:07:18 GMT 1
I think the difference now is if certain players feel a knock and they have bad attitudes (think pritchard) then they will take full advantage of time off. Guess it depends on the professionalism of the player.
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Post by Dan on Aug 26, 2024 13:40:16 GMT 1
Please delete this thread, I feel like I've lost more brain cells reading this than from the two days boozing in Newcastle 🤣🤯 Like a waltz through Jurassic Park this thread |
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Post by space hardware on Aug 26, 2024 22:49:15 GMT 1
Was Dr John sacked or did he quit? If he was sacked then that's a real shame. The man was excellent. Sacked, sadly. A quite disgraceful decision, unless there is something we are unaware of. |
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Post by Junior & Onuora on Aug 27, 2024 7:43:32 GMT 1
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Post by Paphos Terrier on Aug 27, 2024 8:43:03 GMT 1
I played Saturday and Sunday every week and sometimes I shouldn't but after 20 mins of running you've ran it off but I suspect you've never played hard football. A month off for a " he felt his groin" is laughable in my day. Players are soft today in this none contact sport, no shin pads of any note. Sorry I don't buy into all this stuff. Sorry Paphos but think you’re miles off with this one. Not sure experiences playing amateur football on a weekend many years ago are comparable with professional football in 2024. Professional football teams up and down the land invest millions into this but you don’t buy into it? So many players are taking advantage of this by sitting on their arse. Danny Ward will be the next and I'll tell you why, he was injured for months then Warnock got the gig and hey presto he's playing next game. I want to see our players who are paid very well by the club on the field of play. We've had a sicknote culture too long at our club. Oh, and playing amateur football against the likes of Bracken Hall, Bradley Rangers, Uppermill etc is no walk in the park. |
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Post by space hardware on Aug 27, 2024 9:22:09 GMT 1
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Post by cyberman on Aug 27, 2024 10:05:08 GMT 1
Surprised Ward hasn’t picked up a “knock” yet but surely that can’t be too far away. If you sign players with injury records like Balker and Healey and soft lads like the other striker then it’s not too surprising they don’t make it onto the pitch. Ward only gets injured when the going gets tough. When does the golf season end ? - he will be wanting to sit on his arse from then until is starts again. Good old "3 wood Ward" - owes Colin a few pints ! |
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Post by cyberman on Aug 27, 2024 10:07:38 GMT 1
Surprised Ward hasn’t picked up a “knock” yet but surely that can’t be too far away. If you sign players with injury records like Balker and Healey and soft lads like the other striker then it’s not too surprising they don’t make it onto the pitch. You need to be involved in the game to pick up a knock, surely? On Saturday he had 14 touches of the ball with a 25% pass completion and 1 blocked shot. I can't believe he's still starting games for us.He is cos Duff likes him - so we , as fans are fooked |
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Post by goodbet on Aug 27, 2024 10:13:21 GMT 1
You need to be involved in the game to pick up a knock, surely? On Saturday he had 14 touches of the ball with a 25% pass completion and 1 blocked shot. I can't believe he's still starting games for us. He is cos Duff likes him - so we , as fans are fooked Or is it because he has very little option? |
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Post by Jello Biafra on Aug 27, 2024 14:28:10 GMT 1
And you for real? The value of HK as an asset is ? and you suggest risking that asset by running on an injury! When you park your car or leave your home do you leave your assets unlocked? . A month off for a " he felt his groin" is laughable in my day. Players are soft today in this none contact sport, no shin pads of any note. Sorry I don't buy into all this stuff. What a crock of shite. I can 100% guarantee that you might have run a bit of leg stiffness off, or an impact injury from the day before, but there's no chance whatsoever that you've EVER run a pulled hamstring or a groin strain off. BTW, I also played twice a weekend (sometimes even 3 times when I was still in the 6th Form and playing for the school on a Sat morning) from the mid-eighties onwards. |
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Post by Terriersmad on Aug 27, 2024 14:47:02 GMT 1
Sorry Paphos but think you’re miles off with this one. Not sure experiences playing amateur football on a weekend many years ago are comparable with professional football in 2024. Professional football teams up and down the land invest millions into this but you don’t buy into it? So many players are taking advantage of this by sitting on their arse. Danny Ward will be the next and I'll tell you why, he was injured for months then Warnock got the gig and hey presto he's playing next game. I want to see our players who are paid very well by the club on the field of play. We've had a sicknote culture too long at our club. Oh, and playing amateur football against the likes of Bracken Hall, Bradley Rangers, Uppermill etc is no walk in the park. You cannot compare your experiences with those of a professional player in the modern game. Local amateur football may be a decent level, and it'll keep you fit, but nothing compares to the professional game. A good park player, who plays a couple of times a week, and who by any standard is fit and strong and technically OK, wouldn't last 10 minutes in professional football without getting a knock that ruled them out. Joe Lolley, at 21, went from what was effectively glorified park football not dissimilar to the level I played at, to the top of non-league, to the Championship in a matter of months. We didn't see him for an age - he suffered from shin splints due to the changing intensity of training. He needed conditioning far more than virtually any other player we've had to get him fit for the Championship. It was turning a naturally-gifted footballer into the level of athlete needed, and it took ages, including many minor injuries secondary to that conditioning. He needed to push himself to be ready, and that came with issues. You could argue he wasn't ready for regular professional football - having not had the physical conditioning from the age of 16, when he was released from academy football - until 2016, 2 years after joining. He was always technically good enough, and could do it in cameos, but he wasn't physically fit to play in the Championship, despite coming from playing regular football lower down the pyramid. You were probably a decent player. But I can almost guarantee that you weren't an athlete. And that is why you cannot compare your experiences to a modern professional footballer. |
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Post by Mastercracker on Aug 27, 2024 15:28:19 GMT 1
So many players are taking advantage of this by sitting on their arse. Danny Ward will be the next and I'll tell you why, he was injured for months then Warnock got the gig and hey presto he's playing next game. I want to see our players who are paid very well by the club on the field of play. We've had a sicknote culture too long at our club. Oh, and playing amateur football against the likes of Bracken Hall, Bradley Rangers, Uppermill etc is no walk in the park. You cannot compare your experiences with those of a professional player in the modern game. Local amateur football may be a decent level, and it'll keep you fit, but nothing compares to the professional game. A good park player, who plays a couple of times a week, and who by any standard is fit and strong and technically OK, wouldn't last 10 minutes in professional football without getting a knock that ruled them out. Joe Lolley, at 21, went from what was effectively glorified park football not dissimilar to the level I played at, to the top of non-league, to the Championship in a matter of months. We didn't see him for an age - he suffered from shin splints due to the changing intensity of training. He needed conditioning far more than virtually any other player we've had to get him fit for the Championship. It was turning a naturally-gifted footballer into the level of athlete needed, and it took ages, including many minor injuries secondary to that conditioning. He needed to push himself to be ready, and that came with issues. You could argue he wasn't ready for regular professional football - having not had the physical conditioning from the age of 16, when he was released from academy football - until 2016, 2 years after joining. He was always technically good enough, and could do it in cameos, but he wasn't physically fit to play in the Championship, despite coming from playing regular football lower down the pyramid. You were probably a decent player. But I can almost guarantee that you weren't an athlete. And that is why you cannot compare your experiences to a modern professional footballer.And neither were 90% of footballers prior to circa 25 years ago. Which is where the "nobody got injured in the good old days" brigade totally miss the point. Thats not to criticise players of the past, many were wonderful footballers but they were eating steak and chips 3 hours before kick off and drinking as much alcohol as fans. Listen to the British Arsenal players who played under Wenger. The changes around health and sports science in the 90s and onwards was profound. Made them stronger/faster/fitter which is clearly advantageous, but the more athletic you are the more susceptible you are to muscle injuries than an average bloke. |
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Post by aksaiblue on Sept 10, 2024 12:41:29 GMT 1
Is he fit enough for Saturday?
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Post by terriersyndrome on Sept 10, 2024 12:53:15 GMT 1
Is he fit enough for Saturday? Duff said 3 to 4 weeks 17 days ago so probably cutting it fine for the weekend. Hopefully he is available because we've badly missed a ball playing midfielder in these last few weeks. |
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Post by Floyds on Sept 10, 2024 12:56:16 GMT 1
Is he fit enough for Saturday? Duff said 3 to 4 weeks 17 days ago so probably cutting it fine for the weekend. Hopefully he is available because we've badly missed a ball playing midfielder in these last few weeks. Weeks or years? |
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Post by kennyk2 on Oct 6, 2024 10:25:17 GMT 1
As I said before, he reminds me a bit of Aaron Mooy, not a lot of pace but a fair degree of finesse.
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Post by nickhtafc82 on Oct 6, 2024 11:17:15 GMT 1
He's a technician. He needs to get properly match fit and he'll be an extremely important player for us.
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Post by bluebeard on Oct 6, 2024 17:43:10 GMT 1
He wasn't at Liverpool for no reason and could be extremely important to us.
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Post by royrace on Oct 6, 2024 20:06:29 GMT 1
I thought it was kind of the Barnsley fans to motivate him even further. I had a feeling they might regret it! Brilliant assist from him.
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Oct 6, 2024 21:38:27 GMT 1
Fitting that Herbie’s photo featured on the cover of the programme.
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Post by Mastercracker on Oct 7, 2024 13:14:49 GMT 1
I thought it was kind of the Barnsley fans to motivate him even further. I had a feeling they might regret it! Brilliant assist from him. Almost worked for them in fairness as he flew into a tackle he had no chance of winning that I dont think he'd ever have gone for without the verbal's. |
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Post by royrace on Oct 7, 2024 14:55:00 GMT 1
I thought it was kind of the Barnsley fans to motivate him even further. I had a feeling they might regret it! Brilliant assist from him. Almost worked for them in fairness as he flew into a tackle he had no chance of winning that I dont think he'd ever have gone for without the verbal's. I always cringe when our fans give ex players stick, you just know what's coming... Usually! |
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