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Post by Wingman on Aug 18, 2024 14:06:07 GMT 1
Moan time. Apologies.
Watched MOTD for the first time in years last night. Awful. Lineker is past it, Joe Hart was bloody awful just offering generic comments and no real insight for a man who has had such a decent career. Highlights were short and with no real depth. Analysis was terrible. Maybe we’ve been spoilt by the coverage Sky and TNT offer. At least Lawrenson and Crooks aren’t about anymore.
As for Sky Sports. How many of their presenters and commentators pronounce ‘news’ as ‘nuuuuws’ in the yank style? Ugh. Then don’t get me started on the awful drones of Lee Hendrie, Clinton ‘from the hood’ Morrison, and the man who would thinks he’s better than he is; Mr Jamie Redknapp. Stick to advertising ‘sneakers’ to the American’s.
Top it off with the man who talks for five minutes over a corner and adds nothing, Andy Hinchcliffe.
Any additions? Any positives? 😄
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Post by ldr on Aug 18, 2024 14:21:42 GMT 1
Moan time. Apologies. Watched MOTD for the first time in years last night. Awful. Lineker is past it, Joe Hart was bloody awful just offering generic comments and no real insight for a man who has had such a decent career. Highlights were short and with no real depth. Analysis was terrible. Maybe we’ve been spoilt by the coverage Sky and TNT offer. At least Lawrenson and Crooks aren’t about anymore. As for Sky Sports. How many of their presenters and commentators pronounce ‘news’ as ‘nuuuuws’ in the yank style? Ugh. Then don’t get me started on the awful drones of Lee Hendrie, Clinton ‘from the hood’ Morrison, and the man who would thinks he’s better than he is; Mr Jamie Redknapp. Stick to advertising ‘sneakers’ to the American’s. Top it off with the man who talks for five minutes over a corner and adds nothing, Andy Hinchcliffe. Any additions? Any positives? 😄 I seriously can’t watch if Hinchcliffe is on duty. Self righteous twat who drones on and on and on. Morrison is just as bad on the radio, he grinds my fucking gears as well. And taking of radio, that faux banter shite that Chris Sutton and Robbie Savage do on Five Live is well past it’s sell-by date. |
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Post by drayltonboy (independent) on Aug 18, 2024 14:38:28 GMT 1
Don’t understand the point of studio pundits. Their opinion is no more valid than mine, and very little insight is given, so why do they exist?
Similarly Five Live make a big deal about their Monday night club, wherein opinions are given about the weekend games. Why should Listen to their opinions? Really boils my piss if a Tuesday morning sports news bulletin includes a clip of an opinion expressed the previous night. This is not news.
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Post by King Neil on Aug 18, 2024 14:48:12 GMT 1
I can't abide that mica Richards
Makes we want to turn the TV off Everytime I see him...you have to be coloured to be on TV nowadays...nothing to do with talent
And before anyone cries racism...my fiance has brown skin
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Post by terriersyndrome on Aug 18, 2024 14:55:27 GMT 1
Match of the what now?
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Post by londoncowling on Aug 18, 2024 14:58:06 GMT 1
Moan time. Apologies. Watched MOTD for the first time in years last night. Awful. Lineker is past it, Joe Hart was bloody awful just offering generic comments and no real insight for a man who has had such a decent career. Highlights were short and with no real depth. Analysis was terrible. Maybe we’ve been spoilt by the coverage Sky and TNT offer. At least Lawrenson and Crooks aren’t about anymore. As for Sky Sports. How many of their presenters and commentators pronounce ‘news’ as ‘nuuuuws’ in the yank style? Ugh. Then don’t get me started on the awful drones of Lee Hendrie, Clinton ‘from the hood’ Morrison, and the man who would thinks he’s better than he is; Mr Jamie Redknapp. Stick to advertising ‘sneakers’ to the American’s. Top it off with the man who talks for five minutes over a corner and adds nothing, Andy Hinchcliffe. Any additions? Any positives? 😄 I seriously can’t watch if Hinchcliffe is on duty. Self righteous twat who drones on and on and on. Morrison is just as bad on the radio, he grinds my fucking gears as well. And taking of radio, that faux banter shite that Chris Sutton and Robbie Savage do on Five Live is well past it’s sell-by date. 606 is still a good listen for me I enjoy the banter between Sav and Sutton plus some hilarious pillocks calling in usually defending clubs hundreds of miles from where they live whom they fantasise about supporting ,although they only ever see em on telly to be fair some genuine fans do get on with decent points of view MOTD is not great these days poor commentators given the chance to air bemusing observations with far too much time given to ex players in the studio imagining that we’d like to hear their take on a game no ta just show us the highlights |
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Post by Mav on Aug 18, 2024 14:58:29 GMT 1
I can't abide that mica Richards Makes we want to turn the TV off Everytime I see him...you have to be coloured to be on TV nowadays...nothing to do with talent And before anyone cries racism...my fiance has brown skin Coloured …. 😂😂 Not at all correct these days but an outdated term that always makes me smile. (No offence meant). |
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Post by nnnlove on Aug 18, 2024 15:14:13 GMT 1
It's all shite. Whether it's the case or not, most TV companies assume people only want recognisable ex-pros ("they know the game") as pundits and co-comms. Michael Owen, for crying out loud - wonderful player, but the man has the charisma of a wet paper bag, and his experience in the game provides absolutely nowt.
Five Love's match coverage is generally pretty good, Monday Night club occasionally excellent - but I really only bother with podcasts. Journalists rather than ex-players. Best two - Guardian Football Weekly and Not the Top 20.
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Post by Wingman on Aug 18, 2024 17:09:04 GMT 1
Peter Drury. Mr Word Salad with extra feta.
Keep it simple, crap the dictionary out mate.
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Post by nearwildheaven on Aug 18, 2024 17:34:34 GMT 1
The stream I watched of yesterday's game had radio commentary from Stevenage rather than Oggy and Glennon.
What a pair of cards. Started by complaining that they didn't like all the shenanigans at the start...at this point it was just school kids waving flags.
Continued to basically be arseholes for the next ten minutes till I turned off and watched in silence.
And, for the record, Sam Matterface needs his mouth welding shut.
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Post by lossiemouthtownfan on Aug 18, 2024 17:40:06 GMT 1
Quite enjoy the Friday Social on 5 live with Darren Fletcher.
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Post by Bubbles on Aug 18, 2024 21:56:43 GMT 1
Moan time. Apologies. Watched MOTD for the first time in years last night. Awful. Lineker is past it, Joe Hart was bloody awful just offering generic comments and no real insight for a man who has had such a decent career. Highlights were short and with no real depth. Analysis was terrible. Maybe we’ve been spoilt by the coverage Sky and TNT offer. At least Lawrenson and Crooks aren’t about anymore. As for Sky Sports. How many of their presenters and commentators pronounce ‘news’ as ‘nuuuuws’ in the yank style? Ugh. Then don’t get me started on the awful drones of Lee Hendrie, Clinton ‘from the hood’ Morrison, and the man who would thinks he’s better than he is; Mr Jamie Redknapp. Stick to advertising ‘sneakers’ to the American’s. Top it off with the man who talks for five minutes over a corner and adds nothing, Andy Hinchcliffe. Any additions? Any positives? 😄 I was with you all the way until you put an apostrophe in Americans. 😊 But yeah,the insistence of having those horrible “Laandan” accents on “Sky Spowts” does my napper in also. How Clinton Morrison keeps his job is beyond me. Journeyman pro,won nowt,can’t speak properly. It’s laughable. |
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Post by Bubbles on Aug 18, 2024 22:06:19 GMT 1
I can't abide that mica Richards Makes we want to turn the TV off Everytime I see him...you have to be coloured to be on TV nowadays...nothing to do with talent And before anyone cries racism...my fiance has brown skin Coloured …. 😂😂 Not at all correct these days but an outdated term that always makes me smile. (No offence meant). Didn’t Alan Hansen get sacked from Match of the Day for using the term “coloured?” |
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Aug 18, 2024 22:09:05 GMT 1
I think the ITV Football League Highlights programme is excellent.
No unnecessary waffle, just quick coverage of all the goals in all three leagues.
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Post by Mav on Aug 18, 2024 22:09:45 GMT 1
Coloured …. 😂😂 Not at all correct these days but an outdated term that always makes me smile. (No offence meant). Didn’t Alan Hansen get sacked from Match of the Day for using the term “coloured?” Deservedly so !! 😊 |
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Post by 28901 on Aug 18, 2024 22:21:04 GMT 1
The stream I watched of yesterday's game had radio commentary from Stevenage rather than Oggy and Glennon. What a pair of cards. Started by complaining that they didn't like all the shenanigans at the start...at this point it was just school kids waving flags. Continued to basically be arseholes for the next ten minutes till I turned off and watched in silence. And, for the record, Sam Matterface needs his mouth welding shut. Those who slag Radio Leeds Town commentaries should try listening some of these other local stuff. Oggy and Glennon are streets above most of them, even though they are s ared of being too critical of the club. |
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Post by Wingman on Aug 18, 2024 22:30:27 GMT 1
Coloured …. 😂😂 Not at all correct these days but an outdated term that always makes me smile. (No offence meant). Didn’t Alan Hansen get sacked from Match of the Day for using the term “coloured?” I thought he retired? Ron Atkinson got sacked for saying something about Marcel Desailly when he thought he was off mic. Fella has been seriously ill recently too, so hope he’s recovering. |
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Post by gowna on Aug 18, 2024 22:52:54 GMT 1
I think the ITV Football League Highlights programme is excellent. No unnecessary waffle, just quick coverage of all the goals in all three leagues. Other than because it's on ITVX you can't fast forward and see what's going on. Luckily on the timeline the leagues appear to be delimited so you can at least find league one, after that it's pure guess work |
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Post by huddersfc on Aug 18, 2024 23:04:29 GMT 1
I mentioned on another thread a week ago about Hinchcliffe and Goodman and the need for Sky to refresh their summarisers and pundits. It’s the same tired old cliches every game, the same opinions they have that you know what they are going to say. The big lass that sometimes presents Efl on sky is appalling too, no idea how she got that job. Clinton Morrison is another I can’t listen to. He can’t speak properly, describe anything properly and it’s honestly embarrassing to listen to in my opinion.
Gary Linekar I have never understood the hype and why he is paid so much. He has the personality of a wet lettuce and I lose all interest within a minute. For me you need people like Jeff Stelling presenting. I know he wasn’t everyone’s cup of tea but I used to like Tim lovejoy on soccer am.
There must be some insightful recent ex players that could give a refresh that would do a far better job than Hinchcliffe and Goodman. Players who have just retired who know the league they are describing would surely be a better option.
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Aug 18, 2024 23:29:42 GMT 1
Bring back John Helm…
Remember back in the day when it was all about the game and not about what some ex pros opinion is in the studio. So much better than this over analytical shite we get nowadays.
I can sort of understand it with subscription channels, because they have a lot of air time to cover, but MOTD is once a week and they continue to put the presenters ahead of what 99% of folk want to see, football…
As I get older I can start to understand why people older than me got bored with televised football.
Back to the Big Match revisited, the letters at the end of the programme. Imagine if they did a modern day version of that now, posting Tweets… 😂😂😂
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Post by Bubbles on Aug 19, 2024 7:41:47 GMT 1
Didn’t Alan Hansen get sacked from Match of the Day for using the term “coloured?” I thought he retired? Ron Atkinson got sacked for saying something about Marcel Desailly when he thought he was off mic. Fella has been seriously ill recently too, so hope he’s recovering. Well he definitely got into hot water over it,I remember the furore at the time. And yes I hope he gets better,always like him as a pundit despite the gaffe. |
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Post by stanton1969 on Aug 19, 2024 7:54:14 GMT 1
Amazon have an option to watch games without commentary and you just hear the crowd. It's brilliant. It would be great to have that option for other broadcasters.
You'll never get that from Sky because they are constantly using the commentators to advertise other events from Sky.
I am sick of hearing the guff from commentators who just talk for the sake of it and usually just state the obvious.
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Post by jasrick on Aug 19, 2024 9:40:57 GMT 1
Peter Drury. Mr Word Salad with extra feta. Keep it simple, crap the dictionary out mate. I’ve posted this before but Peter Drury’s insistence on shouting the name of the player taking a shot at the top of his voice is awful. |
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Post by incognito on Aug 19, 2024 9:46:48 GMT 1
Amazon have an option to watch games without commentary and you just hear the crowd. It's brilliant. It would be great to have that option for other broadcasters. You'll never get that from Sky because they are constantly using the commentators to advertise other events from Sky. I am sick of hearing the guff from commentators who just talk for the sake of it and usually just state the obvious. That option used to exist on Sky Sports via the Red Button 10+ years ago. I've always thought they'd be better off saving themselves the bother of hiring a commentator for the Red Button / Sky Sports+ streamed EFL games. They will generally be attracting pretty niche audiences who are more knowledgeable than the guy employed to say stuff for the sake of having some background noise. I have an active Sky Sports subscription but chose to watch yesterday afternoon's game on a US Peacock stream as I find their Champion / Le Saux / Dixon commentary team much easier to listen to than Drury. |
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Post by ram on Aug 19, 2024 9:57:11 GMT 1
The inclusion of the likes of Goodman and Hinchcliffe et al,totally unwanted by me,the current format of EFL games with just the commentator is much better,and why do SKY employ that pillock of an ex-ref,talk about jobs for the boys,no wonder our subscriptions are so high paying for twats like that.
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Post by colnevalleyblue on Aug 19, 2024 10:01:01 GMT 1
I thought he retired? Ron Atkinson got sacked for saying something about Marcel Desailly when he thought he was off mic. Fella has been seriously ill recently too, so hope he’s recovering. Well he definitely got into hot water over it,I remember the furore at the time. And yes I hope he gets better,always like him as a pundit despite the gaffe. I think he was discussing the Luis Suarez/Evra incident and he was asked to comment on it, he condemned the racism but used the word 'coloured'. Remember watching it at the time and thinking, hmmm that's very clumsy. He didn't last long as a regular panel member after it. Nowadays you'll hear politicians and campaigners using the term 'persons of colour' to describe a black man or woman which apparently is acceptable and totally different to the word 'coloured'. |
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Post by townarentbest on Aug 19, 2024 10:09:04 GMT 1
Amazon have an option to watch games without commentary and you just hear the crowd. It's brilliant. It would be great to have that option for other broadcasters. You'll never get that from Sky because they are constantly using the commentators to advertise other events from Sky. I am sick of hearing the guff from commentators who just talk for the sake of it and usually just state the obvious. That option used to exist on Sky Sports via the Red Button 10+ years ago. I've always thought they'd be better off saving themselves the bother of hiring a commentator for the Red Button / Sky Sports+ streamed EFL games. They will generally be attracting pretty niche audiences who are more knowledgeable than the guy employed to say stuff for the sake of having some background noise. I have an active Sky Sports subscription but chose to watch yesterday afternoon's game on a US Peacock stream as I find their Champion / Le Saux / Dixon commentary team much easier to listen to than Drury. Yup, you used to be able to switch between commentary, no commentary at all, and also some FAN commentary (which was utter garbage - possibly slightly interesting if you were actually a fan of one of the two teams). Then the EFL "red button games" by default had no commentary at all and just a single camera with no replays up until relatively recently. Theoretically it should be the closest to actually watching a game, but in reality it was totally unwatchable. On TV, you *need* multiple angles, replays, and commentary (but you don't *need* punditry). |
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Post by htafcokay on Aug 19, 2024 10:12:14 GMT 1
Well he definitely got into hot water over it,I remember the furore at the time. And yes I hope he gets better,always like him as a pundit despite the gaffe. I think he was discussing the Luis Suarez/Evra incident and he was asked to comment on it, he condemned the racism but used the word 'coloured'. Remember watching it at the time and thinking, hmmm that's very clumsy. He didn't last long as a regular panel member after it. Nowadays you'll hear politicians and campaigners using the term 'persons of colour' to describe a black man or woman which apparently is acceptable and totally different to the word 'coloured'. He retired three years later in 2014. |
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Post by terryya on Aug 19, 2024 10:16:26 GMT 1
I think the ITV Football League Highlights programme is excellent. No unnecessary waffle, just quick coverage of all the goals in all three leagues. Quest EFL programme was the best by an absolute country mile. Colin Murray knew his stuff and was genuinely enthusiastic for the EFL and just seemed to get what it is to be a football fan. The non ex-pro pundits added some really good, insightful, non-cliched comments as well. |
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Post by Bubbles on Aug 19, 2024 10:35:49 GMT 1
Well he definitely got into hot water over it,I remember the furore at the time. And yes I hope he gets better,always like him as a pundit despite the gaffe. I think he was discussing the Luis Suarez/Evra incident and he was asked to comment on it, he condemned the racism but used the word 'coloured'. Remember watching it at the time and thinking, hmmm that's very clumsy. He didn't last long as a regular panel member after it. Nowadays you'll hear politicians and campaigners using the term 'persons of colour' to describe a black man or woman which apparently is acceptable and totally different to the word 'coloured'. Yes I don't quite understand the difference myself either. |
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