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Post by townarentbest on Aug 22, 2024 14:37:25 GMT 1
Seeing this << disallowed obvious goal up the M606 >> - has reminded me... ...I know we had our interesting difficulty with the technology, BUT, now we're in League 1, does anyone know if our Goal Line Technology is switched on and the referees can take advantage - or is it "not allowed" since not everyone will have it? |
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Post by Walton-on-the-Hill Terrier on Aug 22, 2024 14:45:36 GMT 1
Interesting question and I’m not sure I have the answer! I had assumed goal line technology was mandatory for all league clubs and was astounded when last season I was at a Sutton United game where they clearly scored a goal that was cleared from behind the line but wasn’t awarded. It was only after that incident that I found out Sutton didn’t have the technology.
I well remember the non-goal by Nakayama against Blackpool that was clearly over the line.
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Post by ilsonterrier on Aug 22, 2024 14:48:40 GMT 1
I saw something on social media earlier this week I think and, in the comments, it was suggested that goal line technology wasn't used in Leagues 1 and 2.
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Post by Terriersmad on Aug 22, 2024 14:53:42 GMT 1
I saw something on social media earlier this week I think and, in the comments, it was suggested that goal line technology wasn't used in Leagues 1 and 2. It isn't. |
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Post by terriersyndrome on Aug 22, 2024 15:12:25 GMT 1
Made no difference in the championship either, as Yuta can confirm.
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Post by Tinpot on Aug 22, 2024 15:34:40 GMT 1
It's a great invention. In real time and again on watching multiple replays from countless angles, I thought Yuta Nakayama's effort Vs Blackpool would have counted, but that wonderful piece of technology proved that just because it seemed to everyone in the ground like it was absolutely fucking miles over the line, it actually wasn't.
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Post by detox on Aug 22, 2024 15:56:12 GMT 1
It's a great invention. In real time and again on watching multiple replays from countless angles, I thought Yuta Nakayama's effort Vs Blackpool would have counted, but that wonderful piece of technology proved that just because it seemed to everyone in the ground like it was absolutely fucking miles over the line, it actually wasn't. As the ref knows Hawkeye exists he doesn't now need to stand sideways on to the area to get the view ..thus he stands by the 'D' and looks face on at the goalmouth ... Not sure if that is PGMOL recommendation or refs discretion but it means ref hasn't a clue if the ball goes over the line....he could of course ask the lino but the lino no longer stands between corner flag and the near post, so he can't see either..too busy ensuring the ball isn't 5mm outside the quadrant...
Progress ??
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Post by mosher on Aug 22, 2024 16:09:00 GMT 1
It's a great invention. In real time and again on watching multiple replays from countless angles, I thought Yuta Nakayama's effort Vs Blackpool would have counted, but that wonderful piece of technology proved that just because it seemed to everyone in the ground like it was absolutely fucking miles over the line, it actually wasn't. As the ref knows Hawkeye exists he doesn't now need to stand sideways on to the area to get the view ..thus he stands by the 'D' and looks face on at the goalmouth ... Not sure if that is PGMOL recommendation or refs discretion but it means ref hasn't a clue if the ball goes over the line....he could of course ask the lino but the lino no longer stands between corner flag and the near post, so he can't see either..too busy ensuring the ball isn't 5mm outside the quadrant...
Progress ??
And it's becoming (already become?) the same with VAR; refs and linos delegating their duties to technology. And as we've seen (at Town and in society in general) you should never rely SOLELY on the tech! |
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Post by Captainslapper on Aug 22, 2024 16:35:08 GMT 1
I saw something on social media earlier this week I think and, in the comments, it was suggested that goal line technology wasn't used in Leagues 1 and 2. It isn't. Isnt used or isnt mandatory ? Seems ridiculous to not use it if the club has the technology in place. |
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Post by Bassingham Terrier on Aug 22, 2024 16:57:39 GMT 1
It isn't used.
Not every club has the facilities to use it.
All about cameras and angles.
Even though we had it last year, we can't use it now because it's not allowed in L1; has to be standard, and it isn't.
I checked this soon after we were relegated and brought the subject up somewhere...
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Post by Yorkie on Aug 22, 2024 16:58:06 GMT 1
Only used in play off games for some bizarre reason
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Post by townarentbest on Aug 22, 2024 17:17:31 GMT 1
Only used in play off games for some bizarre reason How would it be used in play off games in League 1 when you might have a weeks notice? It could involve significant ground re-development at some of the crappier grounds! |
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Post by Yorkie on Aug 22, 2024 18:16:51 GMT 1
Only used in play off games for some bizarre reason How would it be used in play off games in League 1 when you might have a weeks notice? It could involve significant ground re-development at some of the crappier grounds! Assume it’s not expensive to set up for one off games. It’s been used since 2018 in league 1 and 2 play offs |
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Post by bluestripe on Aug 22, 2024 19:19:35 GMT 1
As the ref knows Hawkeye exists he doesn't now need to stand sideways on to the area to get the view ..thus he stands by the 'D' and looks face on at the goalmouth ... Not sure if that is PGMOL recommendation or refs discretion but it means ref hasn't a clue if the ball goes over the line....he could of course ask the lino but the lino no longer stands between corner flag and the near post, so he can't see either..too busy ensuring the ball isn't 5mm outside the quadrant... Progress ??
And it's becoming (already become?) the same with VAR; refs and linos delegating their duties to technology. And as we've seen (at Town and in society in general) you should never rely SOLELY on the tech! In theory, your assertion is correct, but in practice it isn't. Goal line technology has proven to be fallible, but I expect there exist test results that show it is more reliable than human judgement. Otherwise why use it? Logically therefore the referee should rely on the technology, unless he is convinced that it is wrong. That's often a tough call psychologically and he has a lot to lose if he disagrees with the tech and it is shown that the tech made the right call. Far easier to go with the tech. |
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Post by mosher on Aug 22, 2024 19:28:33 GMT 1
And it's becoming (already become?) the same with VAR; refs and linos delegating their duties to technology. And as we've seen (at Town and in society in general) you should never rely SOLELY on the tech! In theory, your assertion is correct, but in practice it isn't. Goal line technology has proven to be fallible, but I expect there exist test results that show it is more reliable than human judgement. Otherwise why use it? Logically therefore the referee should rely on the technology, unless he is convinced that it is wrong. That's often a tough call psychologically and he has a lot to lose if he disagrees with the tech and it is shown that the tech made the right call. Far easier to go with the tech. Yeah, nowt wrong with using the tech if available, but without giving up your own responsibility which a lot of these refs are doing For example the Yuta goal, it was clearly over the line, you could see from the stands (well some stands) the ball was over, you don’t have to JUST rely on the tech is what I’m saying |
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Post by 28901 on Aug 23, 2024 21:53:16 GMT 1
It's a great invention. In real time and again on watching multiple replays from countless angles, I thought Yuta Nakayama's effort Vs Blackpool would have counted, but that wonderful piece of technology proved that just because it seemed to everyone in the ground like it was absolutely fucking miles over the line, it actually wasn't. Even the ref knew it was in. But he daren't override the technology. |
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