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Post by gledholt terrier on Sept 9, 2024 14:26:56 GMT 1
Ah those wonderful Buxton years. After five games of that season, we had three points, sat 22nd in the league and our last home game had been witnessed by under 4300 fans. We actually only won two of our first ten matches as well. Look back fondly on that era but suggestions it was all rosey and wonderful are wide of the mark. Notable that so soon after the fantastic 79/80 season, followed by a very good 80/81 campaign, the support collapsed after a difficult, injury ravaged 81/82. Town’s modern day fan base appears far more loyal and resilient in comparison. |
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Post by midlander on Sept 9, 2024 14:48:17 GMT 1
Ah those wonderful Buxton years. After five games of that season, we had three points, sat 22nd in the league and our last home game had been witnessed by under 4300 fans. We actually only won two of our first ten matches as well. Look back fondly on that era but suggestions it was all rosey and wonderful are wide of the mark. The last time we got automatic promotion (41 years and counting)and we're not allowed even a little bit of rose-tinted nostalgia? If we can't celebrate that..well what can we celebrate exactly?  Of course we can, and we should. However it shouldn't be used as a stick to beat the current lot 😉 |
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Post by Captainslapper on Sept 9, 2024 15:36:14 GMT 1
Especially with the amount of reds they'd be picking up Roy Keane's back catalogue. Vinnie Jones's back catalogue. Steve Mounie's sending off for being tackled vs Brighton.Was that after he got sent off for going over the ball into the Brighton players upper shin then?  |
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Post by soapystevens on Sept 9, 2024 15:51:12 GMT 1
Ah those wonderful Buxton years. After five games of that season, we had three points, sat 22nd in the league and our last home game had been witnessed by under 4300 fans. We actually only won two of our first ten matches as well. Look back fondly on that era but suggestions it was all rosey and wonderful are wide of the mark. Notable that so soon after the fantastic 79/80 season, followed by a very good 80/81 campaign, the support collapsed after a difficult, injury ravaged 81/82. Town’s modern day fan base appears far more loyal and resilient in comparison. The 70's and especially the 80's were very violent times and we saw that at most clubs, that had an effect on crowd numbers and there wasn't many women going to the games because of that. Believe it or not Town bucked the trend, they was a small female hooligan element that went to the games looking for female supporters of opposing teams to attack and against Chesterfield at home it did. These days is a world apart from the 70s, 80s, 90s, and because of the rise of the female game, the crowds at football matches have increased massively by the amount of females that now watch the game. I enjoyed every minute of watching Town all over the country, some very scary moments but that is how it was back then. |
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Post by gledholt terrier on Sept 9, 2024 17:08:08 GMT 1
Notable that so soon after the fantastic 79/80 season, followed by a very good 80/81 campaign, the support collapsed after a difficult, injury ravaged 81/82. Town’s modern day fan base appears far more loyal and resilient in comparison. The 70's and especially the 80's were very violent times and we saw that at most clubs, that had an effect on crowd numbers and there wasn't many women going to the games because of that. Believe it or not Town bucked the trend, they was a small female hooligan element that went to the games looking for female supporters of opposing teams to attack and against Chesterfield at home it did. These days is a world apart from the 70s, 80s, 90s, and because of the rise of the female game, the crowds at football matches have increased massively by the amount of females that now watch the game. I enjoyed every minute of watching Town all over the country, some very scary moments but that is how it was back then. Of course, different times and I had the same experiences. I still think Town only got decent crowds when they were winning back then though and the drop offs were spectacular at times (I was in at least 3 40,000+ crowds in the early 70s and not too long later we were at less than 2,000 for one notorious game). That was sort of understandable given the catastrophic slump, but that poor 1982 crowd quoted was after some upward mobility. |
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Post by 28901 on Sept 10, 2024 22:18:04 GMT 1
The 70's and especially the 80's were very violent times and we saw that at most clubs, that had an effect on crowd numbers and there wasn't many women going to the games because of that. Believe it or not Town bucked the trend, they was a small female hooligan element that went to the games looking for female supporters of opposing teams to attack and against Chesterfield at home it did. These days is a world apart from the 70s, 80s, 90s, and because of the rise of the female game, the crowds at football matches have increased massively by the amount of females that now watch the game. I enjoyed every minute of watching Town all over the country, some very scary moments but that is how it was back then. Of course, different times and I had the same experiences. I still think Town only got decent crowds when they were winning back then though and the drop offs were spectacular at times (I was in at least 3 40,000+ crowds in the early 70s and not too long later we were at less than 2,000 for one notorious game). That was sort of understandable given the catastrophic slump, but that poor 1982 crowd quoted was after some upward mobility. Crowds are really interesting social history. Lose a few and they plummeted back then. Not just Town every club. Pay on the day was the difference. Just about everyone has a season ticket these days. |
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Post by Captainslapper on Sept 11, 2024 11:01:33 GMT 1
Its certainly a very different experience going to football now, than what it was like in the mid to late 80s when I was a teenager.
Suppose a big part of that will be the age I was then compared to now, but I dont pick up on any of the 'edge' there was back then going to games now.
Talking away games really.
Getting treated like a piece of filth by the local police ..which was terrible but also REALLY fun at the same time. Gave the whole thing an excitement you didnt get anywhere else really.
And the very real danger you would get your head kicked in or have a half Charlie land on your head!
I tell my lads ( they started going in the 2000s ) about getting taken off coaches and strip searched , and being frogmarched to and from train stations... being shoved into a cage in the corner of a crumbling stadium.. racist chanting..police horses charging about...no beer in or anywhere around a ground if you were an away fan...and they cant really relate to it, its so different to what they experience at football now.
I dont miss any of that..football was dying on its arse in the 1980s.
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Post by turbo2 on Sept 11, 2024 11:23:40 GMT 1
Its certainly a very different experience going to football now, than what it was like in the mid to late 80s when I was a teenager. Suppose a big part of that will be the age I was then compared to now, but I dont pick up on any of the 'edge' there was back then going to games now. Talking away games really. Getting treated like a piece of filth by the local police ..which was terrible but also REALLY fun at the same time. Gave the whole thing an excitement you didnt get anywhere else really. And the very real danger you would get your head kicked in or have a half Charlie land on your head! I tell my lads ( they started going in the 2000s ) about getting taken off coaches and strip searched , and being frogmarched to and from train stations... being shoved into a cage in the corner of a crumbling stadium.. racist chanting..police horses charging about...no beer in or anywhere around a ground if you were an away fan...and they cant really relate to it, its so different to what they experience at football now. I dont miss any of that..football was dying on its arse in the 1980s. I enjoyed the thrill, but like you say, football was slowly dying. It was similar to the recent riots (which for me being blamed on the Far Right is totally wrong) Football had been taken over by the disillusioned, mass unemployment, lots with no hope of getting out of poverty. It just added a bit of excitement to a lot of people lives that they didnt have in every day life. Ive taken both my girls all over the country for years since they were just little, often going in 'home' pubs and ive never seen a wiff of trouble. Remember being at Bradford and Middlesbrough, bellend road too. Jesus, was like a war zone |
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