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Post by hoggy1975 on Oct 1, 2024 12:53:32 GMT 1
Can we also have a commitment from the admin team that all actions taken are recorded on the admin action log? For example, deleted posts? Kenny used to delete posts left right and centre when he was an admin, around when you was, yet I don’t think that was recorded? From memory, he just chose to ignore any challenge. I might be wrong and you wasn’t admin then so apologies if so.
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Post by rab030 on Oct 1, 2024 13:17:03 GMT 1
I think we need an 'X' rated thread where Admins are not allowed and people can vent their fury without worrying about who they upset. Free world - free speech and all that shit. Just needs a warning when you enter that if you are easily offended or you have pronouns then this section is probably not for you.
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Post by keithAM11532 on Oct 1, 2024 13:34:14 GMT 1
Just letting everyone know that the Admins have made a minor modification to the rules regarding yellow cards. This change was instigated as a result of member feedback, where it was perceived that longstanding members were being unfairly punished for offences committed many years ago. In summary, yellow cards will only count for 24 months and then they will be effectively spent. Just like points on your licence. We will also try to use the personal warning system more, to reduce the number of yellows issued in the first instance. Here is the new section of the rules: "We operate a yellow and red card disciplinary system. The consequences for receiving a yellow card are summarised below. Yellow cards now have a rolling 24 month life. Yellow cards older than two years are considered spent and will no longer be considered in determining a length of ban. In addition to the yellow and red cards, the Admins also have the ability to issue personal warnings. These warnings are designed to avoid the issue of a yellow card. If you commit a major offence, you will receive a straight red card - resulting in a suspension of one calendar month. Card Suspension 1st Yellow 1 week suspension 2nd Yellow 2 week suspension 3rd Yellow 1 month suspension 4th Yellow 3 month suspension 5th yellow 6 month suspensionAny subsequent card 6 month suspension Red card 1 month suspension Hang on a minute here - since when did a yellow card attract an instant suspension? I was under the impression that it was an accumulation of yellows that lead to a suspension, not a week off for a first offence and so forth as listed above? Surely serial offenders will deservedly fuck themselves up and be dealt with accordingly, but calling someone something as innocuous as a knob and being reported by an over-sensitive wet wipe shouldn’t result in a week off? I’m not advocating a free-for-all, but let’s not pretend this place is being broadcast on CBeebies either. Jello The intent with the changes is to remove the impact of years old yellows affecting long time members unfairly - done. At the same time we have changed the yellow card system slightly, although, if you read the post, the impact for first offenders is the same, well actually less. You will now only get two weeks off after your third infraction instead of two. The idea behind moving the week to the first yellow is to hopefully make it more of a deterrent than it was before. Which it wasn't. Old System 1st offence yellow warning 2nd offence Yellow - week ban 3rd offence yellow month off. New system 1st offence warning 2nd offence Yellow - week ban 3rd offence yellow two weeks off off. Simply put, the yellow card system is a construct - the software recording methodology does not count your yellows, only your reported posts. Hope this clears things up for you.
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Post by keithAM11532 on Oct 1, 2024 13:35:47 GMT 1
I think we need an 'X' rated thread where Admins are not allowed and people can vent their fury without worrying about who they upset. Free world - free speech and all that shit. Just needs a warning when you enter that if you are easily offended or you have pronouns then this section is probably not for you. X is where you need to go and sign up then Rab, believe that already exists.
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Post by galpharm2400 on Oct 1, 2024 14:14:57 GMT 1
I think we need an 'X' rated thread where Admins are not allowed and people can vent their fury without worrying about who they upset. Free world - free speech and all that shit. Just needs a warning when you enter that if you are easily offended or you have pronouns then this section is probably not for you. X is where you need to go and sign up then Rab, believe that already exists. I once did labouring work in a factory one summer as a youth, where it was predominantly women employees. Rab would have either been at home or shocked at the 'free speech' and use of pro nouns there.😯
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Post by Wingman on Oct 1, 2024 14:17:08 GMT 1
I think we need an 'X' rated thread where Admins are not allowed and people can vent their fury without worrying about who they upset. Free world - free speech and all that shit. Just needs a warning when you enter that if you are easily offended or you have pronouns then this section is probably not for you. Politics board 😂
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Post by Wingman on Oct 1, 2024 14:23:10 GMT 1
Can we also have a commitment from the admin team that all actions taken are recorded on the admin action log? For example, deleted posts? Hmm to delete or not delete this, that is the question. Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer the barbs and brickbats of an outrageous comedian, or to take a firm stand and ignore a of trickle of opines and by opposing ban them. 😂
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Post by mosher on Oct 1, 2024 14:34:12 GMT 1
Come on then! Who are the shandy drinking, fucking goody two shoe Gary Lineker types on here? You ought to be ashamed of yourself! Me. I've never had a yellow, but maybe that's because I'm not a dick? ** ** Other views are available
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Post by ldr on Oct 1, 2024 15:17:23 GMT 1
Come on then! Who are the shandy drinking, fucking goody two shoe Gary Lineker types on here? You ought to be ashamed of yourself! Me. I've never had a yellow, but maybe that's because I'm not a dick? ** ** Other views are available Yeah, I haven’t had one yellow. The above statement has an element of truth.
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Post by Gag_N_Bone_Man (Destabiliser) on Oct 1, 2024 15:22:33 GMT 1
Can we also have a commitment from the admin team that all actions taken are recorded on the admin action log? For example, deleted posts? Kenny used to delete posts left right and centre when he was an admin, around when you was, yet I don’t think that was recorded? From memory, he just chose to ignore any challenge. I might be wrong and you wasn’t admin then so apologies if so. He may well have done. I certainly never did. I believe that for transparency it should be logged, and the poster should be PMd, which again should be recorded. It protects the admins too.
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Post by mosher on Oct 1, 2024 15:35:52 GMT 1
Kenny used to delete posts left right and centre when he was an admin, around when you was, yet I don’t think that was recorded? From memory, he just chose to ignore any challenge. I might be wrong and you wasn’t admin then so apologies if so. He may well have done. I certainly never did. I believe that for transparency it should be logged, and the poster should be PMd, which again should be recorded. It protects the admins too. Would certainly curtail SOME criticism they get, very probably not all. Although tbf I've seen posts saying they're too critical and running their own fiefdom, but also seen posts saying they're too lenient. I've seen posts accusing them of being too "woke" and only banning people who's opinions they don't agree with. They pretty much can't win and should hold to the adage you can't please ALL the people ALL the time.
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