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Post by ringdisco on Oct 4, 2024 15:00:11 GMT 1
Lassana Diarra won at the EU today.
Players can, in theory, opt out of contracts, like any labourer from now on.
Flip side of the coin; any club can and will terminate the contracts of unwanted players.
Nightmare for clubs like town, who rely on finding gems and selling them on.
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Post by mosher on Oct 4, 2024 15:03:27 GMT 1
Does that mean we can now rip up the contracts of Wardnock and any others without having to pay them up? Positive flip side?  |
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Post by ringdisco on Oct 4, 2024 15:08:56 GMT 1
Does that mean we can now rip up the contracts of Wardnock and any others without having to pay them up? Positive flip side? I would think so, yes. |
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Post by katiemterrier27 on Oct 4, 2024 15:49:36 GMT 1
I thought we had left the EU, does it still apply. I love the law It's such an ass.
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Post by ringdisco on Oct 4, 2024 15:54:13 GMT 1
I thought we had left the EU, does it still apply. I love the law It's such an ass. Part of Uefa, anyways, so I think it does, yeah. |
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Post by katiemterrier27 on Oct 4, 2024 16:05:22 GMT 1
I thought we had left the EU, does it still apply. I love the law It's such an ass. Part of Uefa, anyways, so I think it does, yeah. Right thanks, politics and football not a good mix. |
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Post by sabailand on Oct 4, 2024 16:20:06 GMT 1
Part of Uefa, anyways, so I think it does, yeah. Right thanks, politics and football not a good mix. True, thankfully its not ingrained into our football culture as in some other countries. |
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Post by Wingman on Oct 4, 2024 17:03:34 GMT 1
Lassana Diarra won at the EU today. Players can, in theory, opt out of contracts, like any labourer from now on. Flip side of the coin; any club can and will terminate the contracts of unwanted players. Nightmare for clubs like town, who rely on finding gems and selling them on. Another nail in the coffin of the smaller clubs. Football continues to slowly eat itself. |
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Post by Wingman on Oct 4, 2024 17:13:12 GMT 1
Reading the Beeb article, it makes me think that this could eventually pave the way to players salaries being cut significantly. Transfer income is a big source of revenue for some clubs, and if this change becomes widespread, then more clubs will have to offer less. The odd outlier will still throw cash at players but eventually it will create a significant divide once more between the rich and the poor, or the ESL clubs and the rest.
I suspect if this comes into force and is made legal, football has hit its revenue peak in Europe.
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Post by Terriersmad on Oct 4, 2024 17:29:32 GMT 1
Lassana Diarra won at the EU today. Players can, in theory, opt out of contracts, like any labourer from now on. Flip side of the coin; any club can and will terminate the contracts of unwanted players. Nightmare for clubs like town, who rely on finding gems and selling them on. Another nail in the coffin of the smaller clubs. Football continues to slowly eat itself. It’s a nail in the coffin, but it’s also something which has been coming for a significant period of time. Without having yet read the full judgment, the issue of restraint of trade has been problematic for football for many years. Think back to the Jonathan Tehoué transfer saga many years ago: that doesn’t happen in any other line of work. As of yet, it doesn’t have any impact on English football, but it will quite soon as FIFA will have to amend their transfer rules. I suspect they will find a way within this ruling to keep significant transfer fees in the game and protect the clubs. The concern is that those clubs will be at the top of the game and not lower down the pyramid. Changes in the transfer rules worldwide rarely work in the favour of second and third-tier clubs. |
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Post by lossiemouthtownfan on Oct 4, 2024 17:35:34 GMT 1
Another nail in the coffin of the smaller clubs. Football continues to slowly eat itself. It’s a nail in the coffin, but it’s also something which has been coming for a significant period of time. Without having yet read the full judgment, the issue of restraint of trade has been problematic for football for many years. Think back to the Jonathan Tehoué transfer saga many years ago: that doesn’t happen in any other line of work. As of yet, it doesn’t have any impact on English football, but it will quite soon as FIFA will have to amend their transfer rules. I suspect they will find a way within this ruling to keep significant transfer fees in the game and protect the clubs. The concern is that those clubs will be at the top of the game and not lower down the pyramid. Changes in the transfer rules worldwide rarely work in the favour of second and third-tier clubs. May be limit squad sizes to 28. Then one in one out might work? |
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Post by Terriersmad on Oct 4, 2024 17:46:00 GMT 1
It’s a nail in the coffin, but it’s also something which has been coming for a significant period of time. Without having yet read the full judgment, the issue of restraint of trade has been problematic for football for many years. Think back to the Jonathan Tehoué transfer saga many years ago: that doesn’t happen in any other line of work. As of yet, it doesn’t have any impact on English football, but it will quite soon as FIFA will have to amend their transfer rules. I suspect they will find a way within this ruling to keep significant transfer fees in the game and protect the clubs. The concern is that those clubs will be at the top of the game and not lower down the pyramid. Changes in the transfer rules worldwide rarely work in the favour of second and third-tier clubs. May be limit squad sizes to 28. Then one in one out might work? I suspect it’s illegal! When I get time I’ll try to explain why I think that. It’s been a few years since I was involved in employment law, so there’s every chance I’m misremembering how the law works and am mistaken, though. (Large caveat - take what I say on this with a reasonable pinch of salt. I’m not going to claim expertise). In truth, football has skirted the borders of illegality with its transfer system for many years. It has made many young men rich so it hasn’t been challenged, but if (as Wingman has said) the money is about to disappear we’ll see a lot more legal challenges. |
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Post by utttrooper on Oct 4, 2024 17:49:25 GMT 1
Might not be such a bad thing if it means bye bye Danny Ward
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Post by Terriersmad on Oct 4, 2024 17:50:48 GMT 1
Though I will say FIFA’s statement is disingenuous. Shock horror. It’s misrepresented how the ECJ works. The judgement effectively outlines what the law is, and, yes, returns it to the national court. But it’s a foregone conclusion at this stage. Only one ruling the national court can make, and FIFA is bound (as a Swiss-registered entity) to follow the rules of the wider trade area (despite Switzerland not being a member of the EU).
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Post by alex on Oct 4, 2024 18:54:09 GMT 1
Might not be such a bad thing if it means bye bye Danny Ward Lol will drive him home. |
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Post by King Curtis on Oct 4, 2024 20:17:47 GMT 1
Lassana Diarra won at the EU today. Players can, in theory, opt out of contracts, like any labourer from now on. Flip side of the coin; any club can and will terminate the contracts of unwanted players. Nightmare for clubs like town, who rely on finding gems and selling them on. I don't think the Diarra ruling does this at all. Why do you? Footballers and Labourers contracts will never be the same. |
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Post by Solihull Terrier on Oct 4, 2024 21:06:23 GMT 1
Reading the Beeb article, it makes me think that this could eventually pave the way to players salaries being cut significantly. Transfer income is a big source of revenue for some clubs, and if this change becomes widespread, then more clubs will have to offer less. The odd outlier will still throw cash at players but eventually it will create a significant divide once more between the rich and the poor, or the ESL clubs and the rest. I suspect if this comes into force and is made legal, football has hit its revenue peak in Europe. I think that would be true for players at clubs like Town. However the teams at the top end of the premier league would be very profitable if they stopped spending money on transfers. Therefore the top clubs will end up paying higher salaries if this comes to pass. That would mean a huge gap between the big clubs and the rest though! |
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Post by goodbet on Oct 5, 2024 0:56:32 GMT 1
Reading the Beeb article, it makes me think that this could eventually pave the way to players salaries being cut significantly. Transfer income is a big source of revenue for some clubs, and if this change becomes widespread, then more clubs will have to offer less. The odd outlier will still throw cash at players but eventually it will create a significant divide once more between the rich and the poor, or the ESL clubs and the rest. I suspect if this comes into force and is made legal, football has hit its revenue peak in Europe. I think that would be true for players at clubs like Town. However the teams at the top end of the premier league would be very profitable if they stopped spending money on transfers. Therefore the top clubs will end up paying higher salaries if this comes to pass. That would mean a huge gap between the big clubs and the rest though! There is already a huge gap between the big clubs and the smaller clubs within the Premier League, the gap to clubs like town will become insurmountable, if they are not currently. |
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Post by ringdisco on Oct 5, 2024 20:13:37 GMT 1
Lassana Diarra won at the EU today. Players can, in theory, opt out of contracts, like any labourer from now on. Flip side of the coin; any club can and will terminate the contracts of unwanted players. Nightmare for clubs like town, who rely on finding gems and selling them on. I don't think the Diarra ruling does this at all. Why do you? Footballers and Labourers contracts will never be the same. Smarter people than me (lawyers etc) have interpreted it that way,not me. I guess that's what they want to change, that footballers aren't that different. According to Diarra etc |
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