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Post by DeepSpace on Oct 26, 2024 13:21:55 GMT 1
Thats my way of looking at it. I could finish ‘the 92’ in a month or so now if I put my mind to it but I really want to do it with Town. I read an article once that described people who had done all 92 with one team as the paramilitary wing of the 92 Club 😂😂 Is it possible to be a member of the 92 club at the moment using this criteria? Barrow, Woking, Arsenal, Everton ?? As far as Town are concerned, it isn’t as we have never played 2 or 3 teams. But there have been one or two seasons in our history where I think it would have been possible. I’ve had this discussion a few times with supporters of teams that have been up & down the leagues as to whether it’s possible & you’d probably say Bradford are most likely in recent times as their permanent residency in L.2 means they always get the newcomers.
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Post by artysid on Oct 26, 2024 13:55:24 GMT 1
I agree. Possibly Wimbledon too if you count their earlier incarnation too. Cant think of any other Clubs. Maybe Orient, Notts County , Swindon, Carlisle or Northampton if you're as old as me, and count old ground's
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Post by Tim Nice But Dim on Oct 27, 2024 22:47:50 GMT 1
Tally Ho, been to loads of old grounds that are no longer in the Football league, Southend, Workington, Darlington, Southport, Aldershot, Hereford, York, Halifax, Oldham, Bury, Rochdale, Scarborough, Boston, Hartlepool, Barnet, Dagenham & Redbridge, Chester, i didn't realise they were so many
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Post by irverino on Oct 27, 2024 23:55:07 GMT 1
Tally Ho, been to loads of old grounds that are no longer in the Football league, Southend, Workington, Darlington, Southport, Aldershot, Hereford, York, Halifax, Oldham, Bury, Rochdale, Scarborough, Boston, Hartlepool, Barnet, Dagenham & Redbridge, Chester, i didn't realise they were so many Scunthorpe, Macclesfield, Kidderminster, Yeovil & Torquay.......Maybe others? Town youngsters are in FA Youth cup action at Salford City tomorrow, another one to tick off if you are that side of the Pennines.
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Post by cyberman on Oct 28, 2024 10:17:50 GMT 1
Doubt you will get to see Leeds, Bradford or Town play at Odsal now either ......
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Post by andyeastleake on Oct 28, 2024 17:14:41 GMT 1
There’s some serious away support down the years in this thread! I’ve done 90 including those that aren’t in the current 92, ie now in the National Leagues, (plus Bury). There will be plenty of people with more than that, but I wonder if anyone has got their ton up yet? So, what counts? I’ve always said first team competitive games (league and cups, but not friendlies). Also clubs with more than one ground (Bolton, Derby etc) just count once. Anybody over 100 using that criteria!? I've just calculated I've got 107 under the "Rocky" Rules. I'm sure many will have more. Not sure why Somerton Park should be counted but not (say) Layer Road. Under my own criteria (count double grounds but only competitive games and only watching Town) I've reached 137. By my reckoning the maximum number under those criteria since 1970 is 150. That will rise by at least two by the end of November. PS When I say 150 back to 1970, you'd need to go back to 1962 for an increase. We played at Bradford Park Avenue in a league cup tie that year.
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Post by jqhtfc on Oct 29, 2024 14:38:02 GMT 1
There’s some serious away support down the years in this thread! I’ve done 90 including those that aren’t in the current 92, ie now in the National Leagues, (plus Bury). There will be plenty of people with more than that, but I wonder if anyone has got their ton up yet? So, what counts? I’ve always said first team competitive games (league and cups, but not friendlies). Also clubs with more than one ground (Bolton, Derby etc) just count once. Anybody over 100 using that criteria!? 105 for me I think, only Crawley in this league and think that’d be the top 3 leagues all ticked off
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Post by Bubbles on Oct 29, 2024 16:12:08 GMT 1
I count friendlies but only count the most recent ground.
Seen us play Bristol Rovers at three different grounds for instance.
For that reason I really want Brentford away in the third round should we get that far..
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Post by andyeastleake on Oct 29, 2024 18:18:51 GMT 1
Going back to the original subject of away capacities... Bolton have just sold out their full capacity for Stockport. 844 tickets. Gone are the days at Stockport where they give us behind the goal and half the side apparently. We play them Easter Monday. If we're still in with a shout of top 2, getting tickets will be impossible... www.bwfc.co.uk/news/ticket-information-stockport-county-0TBF 844 members of the BWF will manage it... ...or perhaps more accurately 844 people who are or who know BWF members will manage it... ...Possibly their first away game of the season. Dean's legacy.
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Post by brighousebandbred on Oct 29, 2024 18:51:47 GMT 1
Going back to the original subject of away capacities... Bolton have just sold out their full capacity for Stockport. 844 tickets. Gone are the days at Stockport where they give us behind the goal and half the side apparently. We play them Easter Monday. If we're still in with a shout of top 2, getting tickets will be impossible... www.bwfc.co.uk/news/ticket-information-stockport-county-0TBF 844 members of the BWF will manage it... ...or perhaps more accurately 844 people who are or who know BWF members will manage it... ...Possibly their first away game of the season. Dean's legacy. Yep , what they should do is give first choice to those with 20 plus away days then 18 , 16 etc .this year by the time Stockport and Exeter come round . Anybody complaining then that they didn’t get a ticket can’t complain as other town fans have put more time and effort following the team this year. Simple and very fair. Non of this pay for the privledge to jump the queue or that you’ve had a home ticket for 10 years. ( like Kn said over 4000 are buying ST at home and not turning up most of the time ) . Reward those going home and away NOW. The amount of fans I know who haven’t been close to an away game this year but have been ST holders for yonks don’t deserve to jump those that go every week, if demand was big at the seasons end.
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Post by sabailand on Oct 29, 2024 19:18:25 GMT 1
Some fans follow town when town are shit, some jump on the bandwaggon when town are winning but lose interest if theres a downturn, if only there was a scheme where those most deserving got preference....oh we had one but the club seem to have fucked it off.
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Post by irverino on Oct 29, 2024 19:30:02 GMT 1
I count friendlies but only count the most recent ground. Seen us play Bristol Rovers at three different grounds for instance.
For that reason I really want Brentford away in the third round should we get that far.. Six in total, Eastville, Twerton Park, Memorial, Wembley, Leeds Rd, DatM. We have played Sheff Utd at seven different venues, the last three as BR plus Bramall Ln, Goodison Park, OT & Maine Rd......Took 3 attempts for Town to beat them in a FAC semi-final.
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Post by artysid on Oct 29, 2024 20:21:15 GMT 1
Going back to the original subject of away capacities... Bolton have just sold out their full capacity for Stockport. 844 tickets. Gone are the days at Stockport where they give us behind the goal and half the side apparently. We play them Easter Monday. If we're still in with a shout of top 2, getting tickets will be impossible... www.bwfc.co.uk/news/ticket-information-stockport-county-0TBF 844 members of the BWF will manage it... ...o r perhaps more accurately 844 people who are or who know BWF members will manage it... ...Possibly their first away game of the season. Dean's legacy. I think that's a bit of a red herring. Regardless of the priority scheme, there will always be the opportunity for someone who is top priority, to buy a ticket and give it to someone else. The current scheme means any season ticket holder who wants to be in the top priority for away tickets can be, whilst also ensuring additional funding to the BWF. I know several friends who go to virtually every away game and all of them have had the sense to join the BWF for an amount which in the scheme of things for those that go away all over the Country is a relatively small addition. I have no doubt the BWF would lose money if this benefit was stopped.
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Post by Bubbles on Oct 29, 2024 21:19:22 GMT 1
I count friendlies but only count the most recent ground. Seen us play Bristol Rovers at three different grounds for instance.
For that reason I really want Brentford away in the third round should we get that far.. Six in total, Eastville, Twerton Park, Memorial, Wembley, Leeds Rd, DatM. We have played Sheff Utd at seven different venues, the last three as BR plus Bramall Ln, Goodison Park, OT & Maine Rd......Took 3 attempts for Town to beat them in a FAC semi-final. Yeah I meant seen us play BR AWAY at three grounds. Im not counting home games or Wembley!
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Post by araucaria on Oct 30, 2024 11:05:33 GMT 1
Is it possible to be a member of the 92 club at the moment using this criteria? Barrow, Woking, Arsenal, Everton ?? As far as Town are concerned, it isn’t as we have never played 2 or 3 teams. But there have been one or two seasons in our history where I think it would have been possible. I’ve had this discussion a few times with supporters of teams that have been up & down the leagues as to whether it’s possible & you’d probably say Bradford are most likely in recent times as their permanent residency in L.2 means they always get the newcomers. We've never played Barrow, so their replacement by Hereford in 1972, might be taken as the starting point for any attempt by a Town fan on the 92 watching Town. We had been to almost all of the 92 by the end of 1975-76. Almost all, because just as we avoided being sent to Coventry for 50-odd seasons, we didn't play at Meadow Lane between their relegation from the Second Division in 1957-58 until a Second Division league game there in 1984-85. But, of course, it would still be possible for someone to have seen us play on all 92, starting in the late 50s and finishing at Mansfield, I believe, in the FA Cup replay in 1976. [Notts County in 1972-73 and Mansfield in 1974-75 went up when we went down, so we missed them on our tour to 1976]. I have a vague recollection that a couple of Town fans had done this in the 1970s and that they were featured in the Football League Review that used to form the middle section of programmes in those days. Over to you, Bassingham. There is always the possibility that I have this wrong - stray cup-tie, perhaps? I'm almost certain that the first team to play on all 92 grounds would be Northampton, because there was the divide of the Third Divisions North and South until the early 1960s, but maybe a Midlands team played in both divisions and the top two leagues before then - maybe Notts County.
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Post by DeepSpace on Oct 30, 2024 11:43:50 GMT 1
As far as Town are concerned, it isn’t as we have never played 2 or 3 teams. But there have been one or two seasons in our history where I think it would have been possible. I’ve had this discussion a few times with supporters of teams that have been up & down the leagues as to whether it’s possible & you’d probably say Bradford are most likely in recent times as their permanent residency in L.2 means they always get the newcomers. We've never played Barrow, so their replacement by Hereford in 1972, might be taken as the starting point for any attempt by a Town fan on the 92 watching Town. We had been to almost all of the 92 by the end of 1975-76. Almost all, because just as we avoided being sent to Coventry for 50-odd seasons, we didn't play at Meadow Lane between their relegation from the Second Division in 1957-58 until a Second Division league game there in 1984-85. But, of course, it would still be possible for someone to have seen us play on all 92, starting in the late 50s and finishing at Mansfield, I believe, in the FA Cup replay in 1976. [Notts County in 1972-73 and Mansfield in 1974-75 went up when we went down, so we missed them on our tour to 1976]. I have a vague recollection that a couple of Town fans had done this in the 1970s and that they were featured in the Football League Review that used to form the middle section of programmes in those days. Over to you, Bassingham. There is always the possibility that I have this wrong - stray cup-tie, perhaps? I'm almost certain that the first team to play on all 92 grounds would be Northampton, because there was the divide of the Third Divisions North and South until the early 1960s, but maybe a Midlands team played in both divisions and the top two leagues before then - maybe Notts County. I had this exact conversation with someone a while ago. I haven't checked it in complete detail, but I think that by the mid/late 70s Town would have played at all 92 grounds within the preceding 20-30 years, so if you went away regularly over that time then there would have been a roughly 10 year period where we'd been to all 92 at the time. One Conference promotion/relegation started though, I don't think it would have been possible since. Even in 2003-4, our year in the basement, we missed Rushden & Diamonds who were a division above us & where we never played as far as I recall.
To look at it another way, if anyone ever did do a one-club 92 with Town, they'd at least have to be in their 80s by now. One name that springs to mind would be Des Loughrey if anyone remembers him (I think he was club historian back in the 70s & rarely missed a game)...I remember him writing in the programme one time about the "novelty" of visiting places like Southport & Rochdale to watch Town so he might be someone that did it.
There are currently 8 grounds we've never played at (Barrow, Brentford, Bromley, Crawley, Morecambe, Newport, Salford & Wimbledon).
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Post by andyeastleake on Oct 30, 2024 11:58:15 GMT 1
There are currently 8 grounds we've never played at (Barrow, Brentford, Bromley, Crawley, Morecambe, Newport, Salford & Wimbledon). Good interesting post. Just for completeness we have played at Brentford, but during the COVID period when fans weren't allowed in. Also we've never played at Harrogate or Fleetwood in a competitive game although we may have had a friendly (which matters to some, although I now understand we're labelled "fuddie-duddies" ).
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Post by brighousebandbred on Oct 30, 2024 12:05:08 GMT 1
There are currently 8 grounds we've never played at (Barrow, Brentford, Bromley, Crawley, Morecambe, Newport, Salford & Wimbledon). Good interesting post. Just for completeness we have played at Brentford, but during the COVID period when fans weren't allowed in. Also we've never played at Harrogate or Fleetwood in a competitive game although we may have had a friendly (which matters to some, although I now understand we're labelled "fuddie-duddies" ). Amazing how quickly the new ground numbers can add up with Oxford and Everton soon to be added to the above list , especially also now that the non league has 2 promotion places every year.
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Post by Bubbles on Oct 30, 2024 12:12:19 GMT 1
There are currently 8 grounds we've never played at (Barrow, Brentford, Bromley, Crawley, Morecambe, Newport, Salford & Wimbledon). Good interesting post. Just for completeness we have played at Brentford, but during the COVID period when fans weren't allowed in. Also we've never played at Harrogate or Fleetwood in a competitive game although we may have had a friendly (which matters to some, although I now understand we're labelled "fuddie-duddies" ). We've played at Morecambe in a first team friendly as well.
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Post by DeepSpace on Oct 30, 2024 12:14:06 GMT 1
There are currently 8 grounds we've never played at (Barrow, Brentford, Bromley, Crawley, Morecambe, Newport, Salford & Wimbledon). Good interesting post. Just for completeness we have played at Brentford, but during the COVID period when fans weren't allowed in. Also we've never played at Harrogate or Fleetwood in a competitive game although we may have had a friendly (which matters to some, although I now understand we're labelled "fuddie-duddies" ). Yes that’s true about those two. The old 92 Club years ago used to have really rigid rules & one was that it had to be a competitive first team game. Nowadays, if the club even still exists in any serious way, they tend to go down the ‘first team fixtures’ route so I count friendlies. For me personally, for various reasons I didn’t get to Oxford’s new ground the one time we were there so that’s the only one we’ve played at but I haven’t been. I didn’t realise that about Brentford btw. The only real solution here is relegation to L.2 & Brentford away in the cup.
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Post by DeepSpace on Oct 30, 2024 12:14:33 GMT 1
Good interesting post. Just for completeness we have played at Brentford, but during the COVID period when fans weren't allowed in. Also we've never played at Harrogate or Fleetwood in a competitive game although we may have had a friendly (which matters to some, although I now understand we're labelled "fuddie-duddies" ). We've played at Morecambe in a first team friendly as well. That was at their old ground. I don’t think we’ve been to the new one.
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Post by Bubbles on Oct 30, 2024 12:17:27 GMT 1
We've played at Morecambe in a first team friendly as well. That was at their old ground. I don’t think we’ve been to the new one. I didn't realise they had a new one! That's one chalked off my list then!
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Post by DeepSpace on Oct 30, 2024 12:19:16 GMT 1
That was at their old ground. I don’t think we’ve been to the new one. I didn't realise they had a new one! That's one chalked off my list then! I hope they go bust. To be replaced by (checks NL table)…Oldham will do.
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Post by araucaria on Oct 30, 2024 13:12:19 GMT 1
Tally Ho, been to loads of old grounds that are no longer in the Football league, Southend, Workington, Darlington, Southport, Aldershot, Hereford, York, Halifax, Oldham, Bury, Rochdale, Scarborough, Boston, Hartlepool, Barnet, Dagenham & Redbridge, Chester, i didn't realise they were so many Scunthorpe, Macclesfield, Kidderminster, Yeovil & Torquay.......Maybe others? Town youngsters are in FA Youth cup action at Salford City tomorrow, another one to tick off if you are that side of the Pennines. The only one I can see missing is Bradford Park Avenue. Does the West Riding Cup count as a competitive match? I saw us beat Park Avenue 6-2 there, when Frank scored a hat-trick and we lost 2-1 to Leeds there in a WRC Final in 1969. BPA have beaten us in league and cup more than we've beaten them - all early 20th century except the League Cup - Bradford Park Avenue 3 Town 1 in September 1962 - our goal Chris Balderstone (our most recent scorer against Liverpool as well) and the attendance 6,931. #nocuprunsforusthankyou. Edit: just seen that andyeastleake referenced the 1962 game above. So andy, can I count the West Riding Cup?
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Post by DeepSpace on Oct 30, 2024 13:38:06 GMT 1
Scunthorpe, Macclesfield, Kidderminster, Yeovil & Torquay.......Maybe others? Town youngsters are in FA Youth cup action at Salford City tomorrow, another one to tick off if you are that side of the Pennines. The only one I can see missing is Bradford Park Avenue. Does the West Riding Cup count as a competitive match? I saw us beat Park Avenue 6-2 there, when Frank scored a hat-trick and we lost 2-1 to Leeds there in a WRC Final, in 1970, I think. BPA have beaten us in league and cup more than we've beaten them - all early 20th century except the League Cup - Bradford Park Avenue 3 Town 1 in September 1962 - our goal Chris Balderstone (our most recent scorer against Liverpool as well) and the attendance 6,931. #nocuprunsforusthankyou. Edit: just seen that andyeastleake referenced the 1962 game above. So andy, can I count the West Riding Cup? In my system, I’d count that as two grounds in my overall total. Old Trafford is similar. I’ve been there twice to see us play Man Utd & once as a neutral venue. I didn’t count it in my 92 though when I’d only seen us play Peterborough there. But the only person that cares about my system is me 😂😂
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Post by Jello Biafra on Oct 30, 2024 15:37:18 GMT 1
Just had a tot up: 15 at 'new/current' grounds, 9 at 'old/previous' grounds & half a dozen or more that are now non-league. I'm clearly shit at this, although I've been several times to some grounds and a couple on my list includes both grounds if the club have relocated. In my (partial) defence, I started playing football on a Saturday when I got to about 17 and had a 20 year 'career' in the local leagues which clearly restricted my Town-following opportunities. However, I am going to Crawley next week. That is all.
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Post by brighousebandbred on Oct 30, 2024 15:42:04 GMT 1
Just had a tot up: 15 at 'new/current' grounds, 9 at 'old/previous' grounds & half a dozen or more that are now non-league. I'm clearly shit at this, although I've been several times to some grounds and a couple on my list includes both grounds if the club have relocated. In my (partial) defence, I started playing football on a Saturday when I got to about 17 and had a 20 year 'career' in the local leagues which clearly restricted my Town-following opportunities. However, I am going to Crawley next week. That is all. Great thing about this , it’s not just those that are near to completion of the 92, it’s interesting reading about fans who are like yourself nowhere near.
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Post by artysid on Oct 30, 2024 16:11:21 GMT 1
My system is simple. Every ground I've seen Town play at. Currently 154. Soon to be 155 🤞🏻
Also visited a further 14 grounds where I haven't seen Town play.
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Post by Walton-on-the-Hill Terrier on Oct 30, 2024 17:03:05 GMT 1
Interesting thread. As stated before, I keep a record of every game I go to and always have. Everything in excel so it’s easy to check.
I’ve seen 1909 games in all (plus 204 non-league), a total of 4994 goals. Only 942 games involved Town, the rest as a “neutral” although I’ve developed affinities with several clubs down the years (the old Wimbledon of Fashanu and Jones, Aldershot, Exeter, Sutton).
I’ve seen Town play 131 different clubs, 81 different clubs away. You can add Crawley to that in a few days but next week will be precisely the 50th game I’ll have seen at Crawley!
Of the “traditional” grounds, it’s only Goodison I’ve never been to, plus Barrow now. Went to Bromley a few weeks ago. Quite a few “new” grounds I’ve not been to but went to their old ground - Man City, Stoke, Sunderland, Middlesbrough etc.
Been to every ground in Scotland bar Peterhead, Hamilton (the new one), Falkirk (the new one), Bonnyrigg, Kelty, Spartans and Edinburgh City.
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Post by araucaria on Oct 30, 2024 17:06:27 GMT 1
My system is simple. Every ground I've seen Town play at. Currently 154. Soon to be 155 🤞🏻 Also visited a further 14 grounds where I haven't seen Town play. My system too, sid (cf irverino.) I'm one behind you but will draw level, all being well, at Crawley. Are you missing one of the next two? I can only match your non-Town grounds by counting places like Stocksbridge, Penistone Church, Dodworth and others watching Hepworth United. There will be other Town fans with more grounds than us (although we're beyond andyeastleake's total of 150/151 and are therefore cheating.) David Taylor at one time, many years ago, had not missed a match home or away for 23 years; forget number of grounds, this guy must be hundreds of matches ahead of his nearest 'rival'. I couldn't have gone anyway but I'm a bit annoyed to have missed Salford yesterday (Under 18s, so clearly a cheat, ha ha).
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