Strikers

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Nagle on Chickens Pod the other day saying we will be trying to bring in 1 maybe 2 strikers in Jan 🤣. Bring Philips back too so we can have 9. Then we have Harratt and Hudlin out on Loan.

Get them back and play all 11. Hudlin in goal obviously.

[pterrier]

I find it strange that so many people have this blind faith that Joe Taylor is going to be great and worth x amount. If I was Nagel, I’d be increasingly sceptical about any striker that mark cartwright has identified. This is the same man who signed:

- burgzorg (horrific ego)
- Healey (almost disabled)
- Radulovic (the weakest slowest striker I’ve seen)
- Marshall (bang average, let’s be honest, yes he’s young but that’s no consolation to us)
- lecrapo (do we even need to say anymore)

Yes Taylor may have scored at league 1 and 2 level but we’ve all seen how bad the standard is. He’s never done anything at champ level and there’s probably a reason for that, same reason that he could only get loans at l2 and l1 clubs last year. Before we waste anymore money, I’d be getting the scouting infrastructure in place with a new director of football before we make anymore short term decisions which can have long term consequences

[Terriersmad]

Oct 27, 2024 10:25:10 GMT 1 Tinpot said:

Oct 27, 2024 9:55:39 GMT 1 Terriersmad said:

Strongest side with the considerations you mention, for me. We should be looking for a bit of continuity and form.

I also agree with you on Ladapo. We knew he wasn’t a world-beater. His all-round game is poor, but his record as a finisher is very good. But we desperately need some pace to get in behind. Perhaps worth giving Phillips that chance when he returns from the US - he is quick, and those chances Marshall had to get away yesterday may not go begging. If between November and the window it’s decided he isn’t good enough, then time to dip into the market.

I'm not sure what the rules are wrt Phillips playing for us before January but even if we can't - Duff, Paterson & Co will presumably see enough in training to know whether he'd be up to the job. Must admit, at nearly 25 years old & (to my mind at least) behind Kian Harratt (struggling for game time at Fleetwood) in the pecking order I'd written KP off, but whilst he's still at the club the door has to remain open & maybe MD, MP & Co can get something out of him that others couldn't.

I’m relying on that one attribute he has that others do not: pace. We’re desperately one-paced up front. We need someone to get in behind. He should (depending on the rules you highlight) get a month to prove himself. If he can play that role effectively, then all to the good.

[scroutum]

we wont sign any decent forwards,we have not for years now

[buxtonboys101]

Reading all this on here about strikers it really does beggar belief. To have brought in so many crocks, slow and witless forwards seems to me to go beyond incompetence. For instance before Healy signed for Town he had a dodgy injury record which influenced, in my opinion Watford’s decision to sell. I bet they couldn’t believe how much we were prepared to pay for him. On the Lapado and Radoluvic front both move like ocean liners turning into a headwind. Radoluvic cried off yesterday which doesn’t really surprise me as 3 games in a week probably scared him. The most telling impact that he made was not the goal at Stoke but when he went off ‘injured’ against Sheffield Wed who were clearly bullying him and then we proceeded to win at a cantor with the opening goal from Matty Pearson who showed him how to challenge for headers in the opposition box. Those two poor signings in January cost us our place in the Championship.


Now we face a similar state of affairs come next January. It seems crazy that Danny Ward is still our leading centre forward four years after coming in on a free transfer and scoring very few goals.

[Tinpot]

As I mentioned in another thread though - we're in Lg1. How many strikers (barring those employed by Birmingham City who are a massive outlier) in this division do you rate?

The division's top scorer (Poku) is a winger.
Kone is a "super-sub" (can't do it for 90 minutes),
Lee Gregory can't cut it in the division above,
Barry is a kid on loan from Aston Villa (PL loans are a gamble - for every Colwill, there's an Mbete)
If Joseph continues his form, he will have had the first decent season of his career. If we'd signed someone in the summer who had a goalscoring rate of 1 in 5 (and never scored above Lg1) we'd be slating the club for that.

Next on the top scorers list is Ben Wiles! Speaking of which - Birmingham spent £15m on a striker who hasn't scored as many goals as a midfielder that our fans debate whether he's good enough.

Any strikers that are good enough for the championship are either already playing there (and we have a challenge persuading them to drop a level) or are going to have to be discovered either as a project or as a PL loan - both of which are gambles.

We'll need new strikers if we get promoted but for the level we're at I don't think we're doing too badly.

[Morning Norwood]

Oct 27, 2024 11:32:13 GMT 1 pterrier said:

I find it strange that so many people have this blind faith that Joe Taylor is going to be great and worth x amount. If I was Nagel, I’d be increasingly sceptical about any striker that mark cartwright has identified. This is the same man who signed:

- burgzorg (horrific ego)
- Healey (almost disabled)
- Radulovic (the weakest slowest striker I’ve seen)
- Marshall (bang average, let’s be honest, yes he’s young but that’s no consolation to us)
- lecrapo (do we even need to say anymore)

Yes Taylor may have scored at league 1 and 2 level but we’ve all seen how bad the standard is. He’s never done anything at champ level and there’s probably a reason for that, same reason that he could only get loans at l2 and l1 clubs last year. Before we waste anymore money, I’d be getting the scouting infrastructure in place with a new director of football before we make anymore short term decisions which can have long term consequences

If Bojan is the slowest weakest striker you have seen, how long you been watching Town? I’m guessing 5 years tops

[Christ in Shades (art)]

Oct 27, 2024 15:53:34 GMT 1 Tinpot said:

As I mentioned in another thread though - we're in Lg1. How many strikers (barring those employed by Birmingham City who are a massive outlier) in this division do you rate?

The division's top scorer (Poku) is a winger.
Kone is a "super-sub" (can't do it for 90 minutes),
Lee Gregory can't cut it in the division above,
Barry is a kid on loan from Aston Villa (PL loans are a gamble - for every Colwill, there's an Mbete)
If Joseph continues his form, he will have had the first decent season of his career. If we'd signed someone in the summer who had a goalscoring rate of 1 in 5 (and never scored above Lg1) we'd be slating the club for that.

Next on the top scorers list is Ben Wiles! Speaking of which - Birmingham spent £15m on a striker who hasn't scored as many goals as a midfielder that our fans debate whether he's good enough.

Any strikers that are good enough for the championship are either already playing there (and we have a challenge persuading them to drop a level) or are going to have to be discovered either as a project or as a PL loan - both of which are gambles.

We'll need new strikers if we get promoted but for the level we're at I don't think we're doing too badly.

To be fair, Lee Gregory is 36 mate, it's no real surprise he can't cut it at Championship level no more.

[Tinpot]

Oct 27, 2024 16:03:42 GMT 1 Morning Norwood said:

Oct 27, 2024 11:32:13 GMT 1 pterrier said:

I find it strange that so many people have this blind faith that Joe Taylor is going to be great and worth x amount. If I was Nagel, I’d be increasingly sceptical about any striker that mark cartwright has identified. This is the same man who signed:

- burgzorg (horrific ego)
- Healey (almost disabled)
- Radulovic (the weakest slowest striker I’ve seen)
- Marshall (bang average, let’s be honest, yes he’s young but that’s no consolation to us)
- lecrapo (do we even need to say anymore)

Yes Taylor may have scored at league 1 and 2 level but we’ve all seen how bad the standard is. He’s never done anything at champ level and there’s probably a reason for that, same reason that he could only get loans at l2 and l1 clubs last year. Before we waste anymore money, I’d be getting the scouting infrastructure in place with a new director of football before we make anymore short term decisions which can have long term consequences

If Bojan is the slowest weakest striker you have seen, how long you been watching Town? I’m guessing 5 years tops

Huddersfield Town have the most hyperbolic fans in the world!*

(* yes, that was deliberate)

[swam4mwg]

I very much doubt Town will bring in a striker who is better than what they have already.

[Tinpot]

Oct 27, 2024 16:11:36 GMT 1 Christ in Shades (art) said:

Oct 27, 2024 15:53:34 GMT 1 Tinpot said:

As I mentioned in another thread though - we're in Lg1. How many strikers (barring those employed by Birmingham City who are a massive outlier) in this division do you rate?

The division's top scorer (Poku) is a winger.
Kone is a "super-sub" (can't do it for 90 minutes),
Lee Gregory can't cut it in the division above,
Barry is a kid on loan from Aston Villa (PL loans are a gamble - for every Colwill, there's an Mbete)
If Joseph continues his form, he will have had the first decent season of his career. If we'd signed someone in the summer who had a goalscoring rate of 1 in 5 (and never scored above Lg1) we'd be slating the club for that.

Next on the top scorers list is Ben Wiles! Speaking of which - Birmingham spent £15m on a striker who hasn't scored as many goals as a midfielder that our fans debate whether he's good enough.

Any strikers that are good enough for the championship are either already playing there (and we have a challenge persuading them to drop a level) or are going to have to be discovered either as a project or as a PL loan - both of which are gambles.

We'll need new strikers if we get promoted but for the level we're at I don't think we're doing too badly.

To be fair, Lee Gregory is 36 mate, it's no real surprise he can't cut it at Championship level no more.

Oh, I agree. That's not me doing Lee Gregory down. He's doing great just to still be playing professionally at that age, let alone being among the top scorers in Lg1.

My point is - if our striker situation is so bad, who else in this division (massive outlier from the West Midlands aside) would we want here? What we have is fine for the level we're at. We're one of 23 sides in this division that doesn't have strikers capable of excelling at a higher level. We're not ahead of the curve, but we're not exactly lagging behind either.

I'm not saying we shouldn't sign anyone. If the opportunity arises then we should. But I'm looking around the division & I'm not sure there's a lot of striking talent at this level this season. As swam4mwg alludes to - it'll be difficult to find anyone better than what we have that would be willing to drop to our level.

[pterrier]

Oct 27, 2024 16:03:42 GMT 1 Morning Norwood said:

Oct 27, 2024 11:32:13 GMT 1 pterrier said:

I find it strange that so many people have this blind faith that Joe Taylor is going to be great and worth x amount. If I was Nagel, I’d be increasingly sceptical about any striker that mark cartwright has identified. This is the same man who signed:

- burgzorg (horrific ego)
- Healey (almost disabled)
- Radulovic (the weakest slowest striker I’ve seen)
- Marshall (bang average, let’s be honest, yes he’s young but that’s no consolation to us)
- lecrapo (do we even need to say anymore)

Yes Taylor may have scored at league 1 and 2 level but we’ve all seen how bad the standard is. He’s never done anything at champ level and there’s probably a reason for that, same reason that he could only get loans at l2 and l1 clubs last year. Before we waste anymore money, I’d be getting the scouting infrastructure in place with a new director of football before we make anymore short term decisions which can have long term consequences

If Bojan is the slowest weakest striker you have seen, how long you been watching Town? I’m guessing 5 years tops

Nope, 36 years.
Please name me a striker we have had who is slower and at the same time weaker than him. It’s an incredibly rare combo to be so slow and physically weak.