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Post by detox on Nov 2, 2024 11:45:37 GMT 1
While the squad does seem fairly full of chicken livered wusses, I think if we could just bring in 2 or 3 quality signings it would do the trick until the other contracts run out. A seasoned midfield player to run the show...a proven goalscorer.....and..someone with real pace to play either wide midfield or up top supporting our top goalscorer. We not only lack talent up top,but height too..so that attribute will definitely help.
it's about time Nagle found someone else to scour the market after Cartwright has proven a dozen times he couldn't recognise a bus if it ran over him...
We still seem to be just 'chugging' along and making do and mend...that has to change.
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Post by wildhogg on Nov 2, 2024 12:09:55 GMT 1
If we are actually serious about promotion then the following need to be sold or released in January Maxwell Turton Lees Headley Ruffels Hogg Wiles Radulovic Ward Ladapo Healey Marshall- send back Keep Pearson Miller Nicholls Chapman Helik Balker Kasumu Kane Evans (just) Sorensen Koroma Iorpenda Every single one in that first list are piss poor and should be nowhere near the starting 11 of a team serious about promotion. The chairman needs to back the playing staff financially now or stop chelping about expecting promotion because that squad is absolutely fucking guff Who's going to want Radulovic? The only likelihood of him leaving is if his former club in Finland want him back on a cut-price deal. I guess we could also try touting him around using a highlights video with his head super-imposed onto the body of another streak of piss fanny striker who can actually score goals. Marshall is naff (Carlos seems to have quickly recognised this last season) but he can finish an opportunity. He's a keeper. For Ladapo read Radulovic. Healey will retire sooner rather than later, he's finished and clinging onto his career with his fingertips at this stage. |
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Post by fredcarno1 on Nov 2, 2024 13:10:03 GMT 1
What’s balker done to be on the keep lost? I'd get rid tbf, 7 appearances between Jan-Nov is pathetic. He’ll be amazing when fit, just like Rhys Healey 😂 |
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Post by ldotm on Nov 2, 2024 13:56:11 GMT 1
If we are actually serious about promotion then the following need to be sold or released in January Maxwell Turton Lees Headley Ruffels Hogg Wiles Radulovic Ward Ladapo Healey Marshall- send back Keep Pearson Miller Nicholls Chapman Helik Balker Kasumu Kane Evans (just) Sorensen Koroma Iorpenda Every single one in that first list are piss poor and should be nowhere near the starting 11 of a team serious about promotion. The chairman needs to back the playing staff financially now or stop chelping about expecting promotion because that squad is absolutely fucking guff Wiles? He’s the highest scoring midfielder in the league! |
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Nov 2, 2024 13:58:19 GMT 1
Stick em on a plane to Rwanda? I reckon the lawyers may get involved. They'll be sitting on the tarmac and the judge will rule that it contravenes the ECHR. There may be a ‘shit footballer’ loophole somewhere? 😉 |
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Post by Big Ern on Nov 2, 2024 14:21:40 GMT 1
If we are actually serious about promotion then the following need to be sold or released in January Maxwell Turton Lees Headley Ruffels Hogg Wiles Radulovic Ward Ladapo Healey Marshall- send back Keep Pearson Miller Nicholls Chapman Helik Balker Kasumu Kane Evans (just) Sorensen Koroma Iorpenda Every single one in that first list are piss poor and should be nowhere near the starting 11 of a team serious about promotion. The chairman needs to back the playing staff financially now or stop chelping about expecting promotion because that squad is absolutely fucking guff Wiles? He’s the highest scoring midfielder in the league! Maybe a tad harsh on him but let's be honest, aside from the goals he has scored his contribution has been zero. He is a midfielder who doesn't control the game at all. His corners last night were district league standard and when he doesn't score he is never above a 5/10 |
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Post by galpharm2400 on Nov 2, 2024 14:34:37 GMT 1
Someone has to want the 'outs'.
Someone has to at least be prepared to meet wage demands even if we let them go for free.
I dont see it for any of those who most would be ok with losing.
We lost last night, we were very poor, lacked motivation and desire which off the back of an unbeaten run was actually more worrying than the result itself.
Not sure where we go from here when runs bring little confidence and nowhere near enough extra desire to win again and again.
Maybe when Helik, Hodge, Balker etc come back it might spur others on in terms of performance?
The lack of a front player who can physically bother centre halves is making our attacking game very hard, there are no percentage balls won or held up etc, so we have to 'play' our way and we lack the talent and the pace forward to do it well for anything but very sporadic short bursts in games.
Winning or indeed not losing is the single best way of growing as a team but its missing here, I dont know why???
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Post by dirtyoldtown on Nov 2, 2024 14:36:56 GMT 1
There's one person, and one person only who should be ejected in January (if not earlier), and that's Cartwright. End of. Any DOF coming in would still have the same peanuts to play with. I think a lot more people need to realise that we have been criminally underfunded on the playing side of things. |
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Post by Yuta be a terrier on Nov 2, 2024 14:52:31 GMT 1
There's one person, and one person only who should be ejected in January (if not earlier), and that's Cartwright. End of. Any DOF coming in would still have the same peanuts to play with. I think a lot more people need to realise that we have been criminally underfunded on the playing side of things. We’ve hardly spent what funding there was wisely have we? Bojan, Healey and Balker around 3.5m and we’ve had hardly any return on that. Add in Ladapos wages and we’ve wasted a fair amount. |
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Post by drayltonboy (independent) on Nov 2, 2024 15:11:33 GMT 1
Taking Danny Ward as an example. He's on decent money, which ends June 30th. If (for example) Bradford or another local club came along, offering him half the wage but for two years, surely he'd take it. That is the only scenario whereby players will leave in January. otherwise, they are in the Bomb Squad, kicking their heels until contracts end, whilst we build a team around any new signings.
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Post by bells ringing :) on Nov 2, 2024 15:13:46 GMT 1
There's one person, and one person only who should be ejected in January (if not earlier), and that's Cartwright. End of. Any DOF coming in would still have the same peanuts to play with. I think a lot more people need to realise that we have been criminally underfunded on the playing side of things. But Nagle said we have spent a lot of money etc and that he is spending a lot of money. Is this not true mate? |
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Post by Big Ern on Nov 2, 2024 15:48:55 GMT 1
There's one person, and one person only who should be ejected in January (if not earlier), and that's Cartwright. End of. Any DOF coming in would still have the same peanuts to play with. I think a lot more people need to realise that we have been criminally underfunded on the playing side of things. It couldn't be more obvious. For a so called billionaire in a league where he can effectively bankroll the club from a signings perspective (see Birmingham) without penalty, the quality of signing has been abysmal. Makes me think he has no intention of ever doing that. That makes me think what is in it for him? The stadium/land has been discussed a fair bit and all of his focus seems to be on off the field matters with very little focus on what we all actually pay to see and that's the playing staff. I've defended him vociferously and supported him despite the massive setbacks. My support however is starting to waver. Not just based on this one result but on a number of things. An inability to take quick and decisive action on poor staff when required and a lot of social media promises and a failure to deliver on them. Playing budget wise I'm starting to get Ken Davy vibes. |
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Post by rocky on Nov 2, 2024 16:38:36 GMT 1
Wiles? He’s the highest scoring midfielder in the league! Maybe a tad harsh on him but let's be honest, aside from the goals he has scored his contribution has been zero. He is a midfielder who doesn't control the game at all. His corners last night were district league standard and when he doesn't score he is never above a 5/10 Ah, the old ‘doesn’t do anything but score’ argument! Always makes me smile. 5 goals and 2 assists already from midfield suggests he’s contributing more than most, if not all, of his teammates. Some people just love a scapegoat when it’s shit and it’s ridiculous to suggest we need to get rid of him. |
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Post by dirtyoldtown on Nov 2, 2024 17:36:36 GMT 1
Any DOF coming in would still have the same peanuts to play with. I think a lot more people need to realise that we have been criminally underfunded on the playing side of things. But Nagle said we have spent a lot of money etc and that he is spending a lot of money. Is this not true mate? Rudoni was sold for at least 4 times more than what we’ve spent this season. |
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Post by rougeboy31 on Nov 2, 2024 17:56:29 GMT 1
Maybe a tad harsh on him but let's be honest, aside from the goals he has scored his contribution has been zero. He is a midfielder who doesn't control the game at all. His corners last night were district league standard and when he doesn't score he is never above a 5/10 Ah, the old ‘doesn’t do anything but score’ argument! Always makes me smile. 5 goals and 2 assists already from midfield suggests he’s contributing more than most, if not all, of his teammates. Some people just love a scapegoat when it’s shit and it’s ridiculous to suggest we need to get rid of him. wiles should be the attacking midfielder, he’s got the skill for it and isn’t afraid of a shot. But since he came they’ve wanted him to be a box to box when he just isn’t that |
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Post by bells ringing :) on Nov 2, 2024 17:57:22 GMT 1
But Nagle said we have spent a lot of money etc and that he is spending a lot of money. Is this not true mate? Rudoni was sold for at least 4 times more than what we’ve spent this season. but is that due to the fact, we couldn't get rid of a lot of the higher earners maybe? |
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Post by FloridaTerrier on Nov 2, 2024 18:00:06 GMT 1
Any DOF coming in would still have the same peanuts to play with. I think a lot more people need to realise that we have been criminally underfunded on the playing side of things. We’ve hardly spent what funding there was wisely have we? Bojan, Healey and Balker around 3.5m and we’ve had hardly any return on that. Add in Ladapos wages and we’ve wasted a fair amount. Throw in paying off managers and their staff too. With the constant hire and fire approach. But, the one consistent here is who's identified the coaches and players that have wasted so much of the owners money?... The DoF?? |
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Post by bells ringing :) on Nov 2, 2024 18:03:18 GMT 1
We’ve hardly spent what funding there was wisely have we? Bojan, Healey and Balker around 3.5m and we’ve had hardly any return on that. Add in Ladapos wages and we’ve wasted a fair amount. Throw in paying off managers and their staff too. With the constant hire and fire approach. But, the one consistent here is who's identified the coaches and players that have wasted so much of the owners money?... The DoF?? Cartwright spent a lot of money at Stoke, that they are still suffering from even now. Cartwright has no problems spending someone elses money, he just can't spend it right. You could give him millions as Stoke did or billions , he would still bring players in who cost a lot and deliver very little. I mean the BBC last night said 3 times that we spent 1.2 million on Bojan - in what plaent or universe is that man worth 1.2 million. Stoke spent tons on wages and fees under Cartwrights watch, to get the square root of nowhere. He btw harps on about this in interviews as sucess ..... |
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Post by FloridaTerrier on Nov 2, 2024 18:13:15 GMT 1
Throw in paying off managers and their staff too. With the constant hire and fire approach. But, the one consistent here is who's identified the coaches and players that have wasted so much of the owners money?... The DoF?? Cartwright spent a lot of money at Stoke, that they are still suffering from even now. Cartwright has no problems spending someone elses money, he just can't spend it right. You could give him millions as Stoke did or billions , he would still bring players in who cost a lot and deliver very little. I mean the BBC last night said 3 times that we spent 1.2 million on Bojan - in what plaent or universe is that man worth 1.2 million. Stoke spent tons on wages and fees under Cartwrights watch, to get the square root of nowhere. He btw harps on about this in interviews as sucess ..... I heard that 1.2m call too, I was stunned and shocked. My immediate reaction was surely that can't be true? But MD has came out and said in interviews that the club spent a lot of money on Bojan too. Identifies the flaws in missing out on a quality front man in the summer. |
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Post by mosher on Nov 3, 2024 15:48:46 GMT 1
But Nagle said we have spent a lot of money etc and that he is spending a lot of money. Is this not true mate? Rudoni was sold for at least 4 times more than what we’ve spent this season. I can't remember how may times I've posted this: The Rudoni money was swallowed by the loss of TV revenue, drop in other income and keeping on ALL staff after relegation; something that rarely (if ever) happens. KN has spent shitloads of money, it's not his fault that Cartwright has wasted it on shit managers and shit and injury-prone players. It IS his fault that Cartwright is still in post though; he should have been binned after we saw the calibre of his January signings last season. |
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Post by Orinoco on Nov 3, 2024 18:21:08 GMT 1
Party time will be the summer of 2025 outs👍👍, rid the dross in the squad. Mr C will be researching into x Town players available and requesting a Stoke City released list no doubt!!.
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Post by bells ringing :) on Nov 3, 2024 18:23:33 GMT 1
Party time will be the summer of 2025 outs👍👍, rid the dross in the squad. Mr C will be researching into x Town players available and requesting a Stoke City released list no doubt!!. nah just beswick lists as his little black book, really is a very tiny black book. |
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Post by rougeboy31 on Nov 3, 2024 18:36:30 GMT 1
Party time will be the summer of 2025 outs👍👍, rid the dross in the squad. Mr C will be researching into x Town players available and requesting a Stoke City released list no doubt!!. nah just beswick lists as his little black book, really is a very tiny black book. I wonder are there any other clubs who sign players in this sort of way. Outside of the Watford/udinese/granada thing I can’t think of any |
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Post by bells ringing :) on Nov 3, 2024 18:37:50 GMT 1
nah just beswick lists as his little black book, really is a very tiny black book. I wonder are there any other clubs who sign players in this sort of way. Outside of the Watford/udinese/granada thing I can’t think of any No spesh as when you see Beswick's client list, most of them are absoulte crap . |
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Post by Junior & Onuora on Nov 3, 2024 18:45:41 GMT 1
I wonder are there any other clubs who sign players in this sort of way. Outside of the Watford/udinese/granada thing I can’t think of any No spesh as when you see Beswick's client list, most of them are absoulte crap . How the hell is this not a conflict of interests? Let's say I was a buyer of construction materials. I am linked with a wholesaler, my site foreman is represented by that wholesaler, my financial future is dependent on that wholesaler shifting more materials (I'll get my old cushty job back with them when I'm inevitably fired). Am I really casting my net far and wide to see what other wholesalers are offering when I've got my linked wholesaler on at me all the time? No chance. So I buy overpriced crap to the detriment of my ultimate employer. I'd probably be arrested in some sectors. But this is what we have to put up with. |
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Post by bells ringing :) on Nov 3, 2024 18:53:06 GMT 1
No spesh as when you see Beswick's client list, most of them are absoulte crap . How the hell is this not a conflict of interests? Let's say I was a buyer of construction materials. I am linked with a wholesaler, my site foreman is represented by that wholesaler, my financial future is dependent on that wholesaler shifting more materials (I'll get my old cushty job back with them when I'm inevitably fired). Am I really casting my net far and wide to see what other wholesalers are offering when I've got my linked wholesaler on at me all the time? No chance. So I buy overpriced crap to the detriment of my ultimate employer. I'd probably be arrested in some sectors. But this is what we have to put up with. beswick's are advisors to the club it seems, are they giving adivce to suit themselves and their clients . It makes you think ? |
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Post by Tim Nice But Dim on Nov 3, 2024 18:59:42 GMT 1
It would be easier making a list on who should stay.
When we signed Bojan from Helsinki, i remember thinking "he can't be much good there aren't any decent sides in Finland".
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Post by willo on Nov 3, 2024 19:11:11 GMT 1
Party time will be the summer of 2025 outs👍👍, rid the dross in the squad. Mr C will be researching into x Town players available and requesting a Stoke City released list no doubt!!. Getting fed up being told next summer we’ll be having a much needed clear out and bringing in some quality, it’s always next summer with Town. |
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Post by rockwall on Nov 3, 2024 19:13:49 GMT 1
What’s balker done to be on the keep lost? I'd get rid tbf, 7 appearances between Jan-Nov is pathetic. Aye he should deffo play with a broken ankle! How pathetic of him. |
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Post by goodbet on Nov 3, 2024 19:19:42 GMT 1
Party time will be the summer of 2025 outs👍👍, rid the dross in the squad. Mr C will be researching into x Town players available and requesting a Stoke City released list no doubt!!. Getting fed up being told next summer we’ll be having a much needed clear out and bringing in some quality, it’s always next summer with Town. Jam tomorrow! Who is going to spot the quality? Will it be the same old face? We should remember the old computer expression "Garbage in Garbage out". |
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