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Post by mosher on Nov 5, 2024 14:55:41 GMT 1
Do keep up, Mosh: the game in question is in my post above from 19 hours ago - and you liked it! Ha ha. I suppose that you’ve slept since then. I didn't realise that was the game you meant, I thought there were plenty before 1948 which is why I asked. I tried googling and kept getting sent to completely irrelevant articles that mentioned Sunderland in 49 and the always mentioned Hereford v Newcastle. I just always assumed that Colchester defeat wasn't the first EVER? |
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Post by midlander on Nov 5, 2024 14:57:08 GMT 1
But that was on a Sunday afternoon so other league sides had been knocked out by then. As rhpyorks said it's a useless statistic. 'Just to add another new low, just when you think things cannot get any worse' - give over we've had far more lows than this and things have been a lot worse. Unless you've only been watching since we got in the PL, in which case do some research on the clubs history. Bloody hell Ben. Only been watching since PL years? Research on club's history? Been watching since 79 and had ST every single year. Yes, you are right that things have been much worse than a defeat to Tamworth but as a single one-off defeat, it ranks as low a point as any I can think of. Man City in 87 aside just for the scale of defeat. |
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Post by araucaria on Nov 5, 2024 16:04:31 GMT 1
Do keep up, Mosh: the game in question is in my post above from 19 hours ago - and you liked it! Ha ha. I suppose that you’ve slept since then. I didn't realise that was the game you meant, I thought there were plenty before 1948 which is why I asked. I tried googling and kept getting sent to completely irrelevant articles that mentioned Sunderland in 49 and the always mentioned Hereford v Newcastle. I just always assumed that Colchester defeat wasn't the first EVER? Match report, etc. I doubt that it says we were the first giant killing - perhaps because they might have had nowhere to look it up (Bassingham will advise) - but they do say it’s the biggest shock in FA Cup history. Sunderland lost 2-1 at Yeovil the season after: Yeovil finished 92 places below them whilst Colchester were a mere 77 below us. Weren’t Tamworth 57 below us? |
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Post by mosher on Nov 5, 2024 16:31:11 GMT 1
I didn't realise that was the game you meant, I thought there were plenty before 1948 which is why I asked. I tried googling and kept getting sent to completely irrelevant articles that mentioned Sunderland in 49 and the always mentioned Hereford v Newcastle. I just always assumed that Colchester defeat wasn't the first EVER? Match report, etc. I doubt that it says we were the first giant killing - perhaps because they might have had nowhere to look it up (Bassingham will advise) - but they do say it’s the biggest shock in FA Cup history. Sunderland lost 2-1 at Yeovil the season after: Yeovil finished 92 places below them whilst Colchester were a mere 77 below us. Weren’t Tamworth 57 below us? I'd just assumed there'd been plenty (well not plenty but some at least) of non-league teams who'd beaten top flight opposition prior to 1948, just by how long the competition had been going. But being described as the biggest shock in history certainly suggests it hadn't happened before. Every day's a school day as they say. |
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Post by isitjustme on Nov 6, 2024 9:49:43 GMT 1
Not sure it was as blatant as some are making out. He swings, but every situation like that in the box has those sort of challenges. So there are lots of Players throwing punches at Goalkeepers . you get 3 views of it here, the third one from behind the goal is the worst. Only just looked at this particular thread. And whereas I think Maxwell had a mare with this situation, in fairness, looking at this footage, he was infact fouled. Still doesn't excuse the rest of our performance and deserved result though....!!! |
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Post by andyeastleake on Nov 6, 2024 17:22:42 GMT 1
Can’t answer your question but we do hold another unwanted record that unfortunately will stand for all time - the first top division team to be knocked out by a non-league club. If nothing else but to put mosher's mind at rest, I don't believe on the face of it this is correct. Even if you only consider the period since the league expanded to 4 divisions (i.e. after the creation of Dvision Three North & South) it had occurred at least once (although we may have been the next occurence). In season 1923/24 Corinthian beat Blackburn Rovers (who finished 8th in division 1 that season) 1-0. If we consider the period back to the very formation of the league then it would probably have happened on many occasions. In fact in 1900/01 (some time after the addition of the second division) the cup was won by Tottenham Hotspur then outside the Football League and part of the Southern League. They beat 4 division one teams on the way to winning the cup including Sheffield United in the final after a replay. PS Happy for any of the above to be corrected if there is an error, every day (as Mosher points out) is a schoolday. PPS Thanks to an old News Of The World football annual for pointing me in this direction (I promise I haven't looked at all FA Cup results over time). |
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Post by araucaria on Nov 6, 2024 18:18:16 GMT 1
Can’t answer your question but we do hold another unwanted record that unfortunately will stand for all time - the first top division team to be knocked out by a non-league club. If nothing else but to put mosher's mind at rest, I don't believe on the face of it this is correct. Even if you only consider the period since the league expanded to 4 divisions (i.e. after the creation of Dvision Three North & South) it had occurred at least once (although we may have been the next occurence). In season 1923/24 Corinthian beat Blackburn Rovers (who finished 8th in division 1 that season) 1-0. If we consider the period back to the very formation of the league then it would probably have happened on many occasions. In fact in 1900/01 (some time after the addition of the second division) the cup was won by Tottenham Hotspur then outside the Football League and part of the Southern League. They beat 4 division one teams on the way to winning the cup including Sheffield United in the final after a replay. PS Happy for any of the above to be corrected if there is an error, every day (as Mosher points out) is a schoolday. PPS Thanks to an old News Of The World football annual for pointing me in this direction (I promise I haven't looked at all FA Cup results over time). Happy to be corrected. I just hope that the few who care either way about whether we were the first or not have seen your post. Now I need to go looking for the article that stated emphatically that we were the first and to kick myself for believing it. I knew that Spurs won the cup from the Southern League but it didn’t register with me in this case. I wrote a few days ago that Town rolling over non-league teams away from home is a myth and that I couldn’t find such a match where we won by more than one goal. Well if one goes back far enough, 1909-10, our first FA Cup match, we won 11-0 at Heckmondwike (but we were non-league as well). www.corinthian-casuals.com/news/a-significant-centenary |
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Post by araucaria on Nov 6, 2024 18:25:01 GMT 1
Do keep up, Mosh: the game in question is in my post above from 19 hours ago - and you liked it! Ha ha. I suppose that you’ve slept since then. I didn't realise that was the game you meant, I thought there were plenty before 1948 which is why I asked. I tried googling and kept getting sent to completely irrelevant articles that mentioned Sunderland in 49 and the always mentioned Hereford v Newcastle. I just always assumed that Colchester defeat wasn't the first EVER? And andyeastleake has just proved that it wasn’t. I apologise for ribbing you when the joke’s on me. The number of times that one assumes that one is categorically, unimpeachably correct about something and it turns out not to be the case (and you’ll see that I nearly (!) always qualify such things with an ‘I think’ or an ‘I believe’). |
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Post by mosher on Nov 6, 2024 18:36:03 GMT 1
I didn't realise that was the game you meant, I thought there were plenty before 1948 which is why I asked. I tried googling and kept getting sent to completely irrelevant articles that mentioned Sunderland in 49 and the always mentioned Hereford v Newcastle. I just always assumed that Colchester defeat wasn't the first EVER? And andyeastleake has just proved that it wasn’t. I apologise for ribbing you when the joke’s on me. The number of times that one assumes that one is categorically, unimpeachably correct about something and it turns out not to be the case (and you’ll see that I nearly (!) always qualify such things with an ‘I think’ or an ‘I believe’). Mate no need to apologise to me for a bit of piss taking, I’m a Pad Brat, we grew up getting it off our dads and their mates 😂 |
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Post by araucaria on Nov 6, 2024 18:46:51 GMT 1
And andyeastleake has just proved that it wasn’t. I apologise for ribbing you when the joke’s on me. The number of times that one assumes that one is categorically, unimpeachably correct about something and it turns out not to be the case (and you’ll see that I nearly (!) always qualify such things with an ‘I think’ or an ‘I believe’). Mate no need to apologise to me for a bit of piss taking, I’m a Pad Brat, we grew up getting it off our dads and their mates 😂 You wrote recently about every day being a school day and I now know what a Pad Brat is. |
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Post by mosher on Nov 6, 2024 19:16:30 GMT 1
Mate no need to apologise to me for a bit of piss taking, I’m a Pad Brat, we grew up getting it off our dads and their mates 😂 You wrote recently about every day being a school day and I now know what a Pad Brat is. Squaddie kids lol I had to explain squaddie the other day to my stepson, made me feel ancient, thought it was a well known term but neither he nor his mates had heard it n one of their older brothers currently serves 😂 |
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