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Post by rougeboy31 on Nov 3, 2024 18:17:46 GMT 1
We’re so quick to pass backwards and fanny around with the ball, giving the opposition, any opposition, the opportunity to reset. We've then got to get through 11 players and with little creativity at the best of times, it’s a big ask. We’ve been like this for years and it seems a constant with most managers. Quick! Pass it back. Phew we’ve retained the ball. Now what?! *I accept this post doesn’t have anything to do with mental attitude 🤷♂️ That’s almost word for word what I was saying to my mate yesterday morning as we walked over the scape. We have played backwards and sideways so much for so long we darent go forward. I’m sick to death of the peps citeh being the only way to play. Ffs. They do it in the district league now. there hasn’t been a manager in years who has come up with a new style or formation. It’s all xg managers who watch videos instead of learning from the best. When Wagner came in it was unique with the high press and double sessions, until every other crappy club started doing it and it levelled out. Now it’s like you said with Pep, when every team basically plays the same way there is no way to get ahead. |
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Post by dugnet on Nov 3, 2024 19:42:41 GMT 1
I posted it elsewhere but we don’t have a team. We have a collection of individuals asked to play in a certain way.
If things work then they are good enough to pick up results. If things don't work then they hide.
That might be harsh but it's true.
You only need to watch the body language during games. When it's not going well there's no one, other than Hogg and Nicholls challenging and shouting. When things are going well and we score the celebrations are so "by numbers" and lacking in authenticity it is palpable. There's little natural encouragement for each other.
In short they just a bunch of professional sportsmen doing a job, picking up a wage.
Our successful teams had heart and cared about each other. This lot have little of either.
Ultimately we need to build a team. That's down to MD and he needs to manage upwards that he needs support to do that because moulding this lot looks highly unlikely.
I hope I'm proved wrong and we continue to improve in the league but I fear the next bad performance is never too far away.
Something has to change for the long term. Preferably sooner than later.
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Post by goodbet on Nov 3, 2024 20:04:42 GMT 1
I posted it elsewhere but we don’t have a team. We have a collection of individuals asked to play in a certain way. If things work then they are good enough to pick up results. If things don't work then they hide. That might be harsh but it's true. You only need to watch the body language during games. When it's not going well there's no one, other than Hogg and Nicholls challenging and shouting. When things are going well and we score the celebrations are so "by numbers" and lacking in authenticity it is palpable. There's little natural encouragement for each other. In short they just a bunch of professional sportsmen doing a job, picking up a wage. Our successful teams had heart and cared about each other. This lot have little of either. Ultimately we need to build a team. That's down to MD and he needs to manage upwards that he needs support to do that because moulding this lot looks highly unlikely. I hope I'm proved wrong and we continue to improve in the league but I fear the next bad performance is never too far away. Something has to change for the long term. Preferably sooner than later. I hope that someone explains to the people in charge of bringing in the players, you don't just replace a centre back with another one. You have to build a team and look to strengthen other areas like speed, strength and leadership. It has been said many times on here that a certain German manager signed three club captains and that helped to ensure that we had leader on the field of play, something we have missed for some time. I expect us to have a few bad performances until we build a balanced squad, which we are a long way from at the moment. |
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Post by Made In Yorkshire on Nov 3, 2024 20:34:27 GMT 1
I posted it elsewhere but we don’t have a team. We have a collection of individuals asked to play in a certain way. If things work then they are good enough to pick up results. If things don't work then they hide. That might be harsh but it's true. You only need to watch the body language during games. When it's not going well there's no one, other than Hogg and Nicholls challenging and shouting. When things are going well and we score the celebrations are so "by numbers" and lacking in authenticity it is palpable. There's little natural encouragement for each other. In short they just a bunch of professional sportsmen doing a job, picking up a wage. Our successful teams had heart and cared about each other. This lot have little of either. Ultimately we need to build a team. That's down to MD and he needs to manage upwards that he needs support to do that because moulding this lot looks highly unlikely. I hope I'm proved wrong and we continue to improve in the league but I fear the next bad performance is never too far away. Something has to change for the long term. Preferably sooner than later. Instead of arguing on Twitter our owner would make better use of his time and hopefully learn things by reading comments like this. |
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Post by Flowerdisco on Nov 3, 2024 21:51:10 GMT 1
My definition and examples of leaders at Town are Nicholls and previously, Conor Coady. I believe we miss Nicholls - watch him, he’s constantly organising and encouraging his team mates , just what a leader on the pitch should do. Coady was the most vocal Town player I’ve ever seen. I couldn’t believe how loud he was, constantly geeing up his team mates. Currently we have no one in the team doing this. We miss Peter Clarke |
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Post by goodbet on Nov 3, 2024 21:55:33 GMT 1
My definition and examples of leaders at Town are Nicholls and previously, Conor Coady. I believe we miss Nicholls - watch him, he’s constantly organising and encouraging his team mates , just what a leader on the pitch should do. Coady was the most vocal Town player I’ve ever seen. I couldn’t believe how loud he was, constantly geeing up his team mates. Currently we have no one in the team doing this. We miss Peter Clarke We do miss him, that is before he slowed down too much. |
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Nov 3, 2024 22:22:54 GMT 1
I think, us fans, have to accept, even this early we won't win promotion there's too many of these shite displays rearing their ugly heads far far too often. It's going yo take another season at this level to build a decent squad and iron out the deficiencies, hope I'm wrong mind.
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Post by Amigo on Nov 4, 2024 0:25:04 GMT 1
Agree with most of what has been said. Individually most of the players have shown either here or elsewhere that they can do a good job either at this level or even the one above at least in spells but collectively we aren't as good as could or should be.
No real captain in the sense of getting the players together and organising when the shit hits the fan, ideally you need more than one on the pitch, I'm not convinced we even have one at the club.
No bravery on the ball, under Wagner we had Mooy (no I'm not expecting another Mooy, probably ever again), VLP, Kachunga, Wells, Palmer/Brown, even Smith all constantly willing to get on the ball and try to use it proactively. This has got to be a confidence thing, but only Miller has had any bravery on the ball this season, probably Koroma as well the only other player willing to try beat a man or get a shot off.
There also doesn't seem to be any partnerships in the team. Again just using it as an example because it was a time we were successful but under Wagner, Smith/Kachunga, Schindler/Hefele, Lowe/VLP, Hogg/Mooy. All those "couples" consistently worked together, I can't think of any 2 players at the moment that I think link well together.
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Post by Orinoco on Nov 4, 2024 3:05:07 GMT 1
Not enough money is put into the psychological side of football. A good mind is half the battle. Carlos and Wagner teams prove that. Look at spurs for example, doesn’t matter what players you have - if you’re always expected to bottle it it will have an impact. Wagner running the length of the pitch to dive on top of his players v L***s. That’s togetherness and collective mentality. Got a great view of that, we sat right on the touchline by the control tower in FM upper in line with the touchline!! |
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Post by Arbie 1976. on Nov 4, 2024 11:09:25 GMT 1
We lack leaders….yet haven’t we got some kind of leadership thing going on? It’s daft Headley is part of that and he's a shrinking violet. UTT |
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