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Post by nickisback on Jan 11, 2009 14:46:10 GMT 1
Just been approached by a friend in Saltburn golf club who knows I support Town, and asked if I knew that we were still talking terms with Danny Graham at the end of last week. Apparentley he was talking to his father on thursday who also said that he talked to Preston last week.
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Post by thrice on Jan 11, 2009 14:52:12 GMT 1
I thinks its pretty nailed on that he will leave its just a matter of where to. Carlisle obviously want to get a dutch auction started but thus far we are the only ones to have made a bid so we must still be in pole position. Hopefully Preston don't think they need bid for another striker after their fine reesult yesterday.
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Post by jasond on Jan 11, 2009 14:54:49 GMT 1
Even if he does'nt sign for us cant help being impressed how he has aquitted himself. He made it quite clear he is not distracted by transfer talk and proved it yesterday. Seems like an honourable type of lad imo.
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Post by andyhudd on Jan 11, 2009 14:57:36 GMT 1
Even if he does'nt sign for us cant help being impressed how he has aquitted himself. He made it quite clear he is not distracted by transfer talk and proved it yesterday. Seems like an honourable type of lad imo. In a sense, yes, but this is the same guy who scored against us away at Carlisle, and ran to celebrate in front of our fans.
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Jan 11, 2009 14:58:13 GMT 1
He would be a great signing, maybe we will offer around 500k... then its up to him really, if he went to preston he might not get in first team.
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Post by thrice on Jan 11, 2009 15:02:26 GMT 1
He would be a great signing, maybe we will offer around 500k... then its up to him really, if he went to preston he might not get in first team. 500K 250K for a third division striker out of contract in a few months is more than generous. We just need to hold our nerve. If anyone wants to throw more money at it good luck to them because there are other options out there if needs be.
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Post by Chris Kiely on Jan 11, 2009 15:06:38 GMT 1
Even if he does'nt sign for us cant help being impressed how he has aquitted himself. He made it quite clear he is not distracted by transfer talk and proved it yesterday. Seems like an honourable type of lad imo. In a sense, yes, but this is the same guy who scored against us away at Carlisle, and ran to celebrate in front of our fans. Come off it, we loved it when Goodwin was winding up the Scunny fans after scoring against 'em! For me winding up the opposition and their supporters is a plus for a player!
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Post by thrice on Jan 11, 2009 15:07:47 GMT 1
Even if he does'nt sign for us cant help being impressed how he has aquitted himself. He made it quite clear he is not distracted by transfer talk and proved it yesterday. Seems like an honourable type of lad imo. In a sense, yes, but this is the same guy who scored against us away at Carlisle, and ran to celebrate in front of our fans. Well we had set him up so it was fitting really wasn't it.
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Post by martin27 on Jan 11, 2009 15:27:06 GMT 1
Even if he does'nt sign for us cant help being impressed how he has aquitted himself. He made it quite clear he is not distracted by transfer talk and proved it yesterday. Seems like an honourable type of lad imo. In a sense, yes, but this is the same guy who scored against us away at Carlisle, and ran to celebrate in front of our fans. he might of just wanted to see what its like to celebrate in front of us,practice for when he comes
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Post by Tez on Jan 11, 2009 15:29:06 GMT 1
That is his job to score goals. What he does after if it doesn't involve hurting anyone is up to him. Like martin says good practice for celebrating in front of us. ;D
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2009 15:30:00 GMT 1
£500k would be way too much in my opinion. I think £250k is about right, and wouldn't want us to go much higher than that.
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Post by martin27 on Jan 11, 2009 15:32:07 GMT 1
i think he`d see town as a club going some where,with our managment he wont get a much better option
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Post by terrierng on Jan 11, 2009 15:41:24 GMT 1
i think he`d see town as a club going some where,with our managment he wont get a much better option come off it,at the moment preston is a better option by far,we may be level with them in a couple of yrs but are no where near them at the moment.they are in a higher division and will pay a lot more in wages,we may not get promoted this season or next.
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Post by martin27 on Jan 11, 2009 15:43:53 GMT 1
i think he`d see town as a club going some where,with our managment he wont get a much better option come off it,at the moment preston is a better option by far,we may be level with them in a couple of yrs but are no where near them at the moment.they are in a higher division and will pay a lot more in wages,we may not get promoted this season or next. i hope lee clark doesnt negotiate with the same attitude
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Post by Tez on Jan 11, 2009 15:47:48 GMT 1
If he wants to move for the here and now Preston is the better call. However the lad's only 23 (same age as me the bugger!) he has at least 10 years playing career in him. If he wants a move for the future and a club that will be going places with the backing, backroom staff and management then come along the HTFC train. All aboard.
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Post by boothylegend on Jan 11, 2009 15:47:53 GMT 1
£500k would be way too much in my opinion. I think £250k is about right, and wouldn't want us to go much higher than that. He's in demand though. On the face of it, he may only be worth £250K, but we may have to pay a bit more to beat other clubs to him. Although, £500k does seem a bit steep. Maybe we should be prepared to pay up to around £350k; which isn't a lot for a proven goalscorer which we are in desperate need of.
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Post by terrierng on Jan 11, 2009 15:48:06 GMT 1
come off it,at the moment preston is a better option by far,we may be level with them in a couple of yrs but are no where near them at the moment.they are in a higher division and will pay a lot more in wages,we may not get promoted this season or next. i hope lee clark doesnt negotiate with the same attitude graham will go to the team which will further his carreer,if you was him would you go to a established championship club or a league one club?dont get me wrong i would like him but realisticly now a few championships are intrested we are likely to lose out ,nothing to do with my attitude ,im just being realistic.
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Post by martin27 on Jan 11, 2009 15:53:26 GMT 1
it doesnt always work like that,clark and mcdermott can manage at an higher level than us,if they can sell there vision to young players,they can allways give them a clause to leave if it goes tits up
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Post by terrierng on Jan 11, 2009 15:58:13 GMT 1
it doesnt always work like that,clark and mcdermott can manage at an higher level than us,if they can sell there vision to young players,they can allways give them a clause to leave if it goes tits up agree with that but i still think we will be outbid ,not a bad thing as i think he may be worth 300k at tops,at least we are looking at decent strikers thats the main thing in yrs gone by we wouldnt have got anyone.
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Post by nshackle on Jan 11, 2009 15:59:39 GMT 1
In terms of size of club, there is probably very little to split Town and Preston.
Yes, they are ahead of us at the moment, but I doubt they are one of the bigger wage payers in the Championship. The TV revenue is greater in the Championship admittedly.
The other thing is that Preston already have a number of forwards, two of whom are quite physical (Jon Parkin & Neil Mellor), plus they have two lively forwards Ross Wallace and Steve Elliott. Could they guarantee Graham a regular start ?
This is the one area where we have an advantage - I think if Grahm did start for us, he would provided he maintained a decent level of form be pretty much assured of a starting place.
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Post by terrierng on Jan 11, 2009 16:03:46 GMT 1
In terms of size of club, there is probably very little to split Town and Preston. Yes, they are ahead of us at the moment, but I doubt they are one of the bigger wage payers in the Championship. The TV revenue is greater in the Championship admittedly. The other thing is that Preston already have a number of forwards, two of whom are quite physical (Jon Parkin & Neil Mellor), plus they have two lively forwards Ross Wallace and Steve Elliott. Could they guarantee Graham a regular start ? This is the one area where we have an advantage - I think if Grahm did start for us, he would provided he maintained a decent level of form be pretty much assured of a starting place. barnsley and swansea intrested as well as preston,i also would say these arnt any bigger than us but they play a higher standard of football which we can not offer straight away,players on the whole move for cash whatever anyone thinks.
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Post by martin27 on Jan 11, 2009 16:04:46 GMT 1
In terms of size of club, there is probably very little to split Town and Preston. Yes, they are ahead of us at the moment, but I doubt they are one of the bigger wage payers in the Championship. The TV revenue is greater in the Championship admittedly. The other thing is that Preston already have a number of forwards, two of whom are quite physical (Jon Parkin & Neil Mellor), plus they have two lively forwards Ross Wallace and Steve Elliott. Could they guarantee Graham a regular start ? This is the one area where we have an advantage - I think if Grahm did start for us, he would provided he maintained a decent level of form be pretty much assured of a starting place. excactly and some of your points will be raised by clarke to graham,when it comes down to it we have the capability to be much bigger than Preston.our fan base is allready bigger
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Post by terrierng on Jan 11, 2009 16:11:13 GMT 1
In terms of size of club, there is probably very little to split Town and Preston. Yes, they are ahead of us at the moment, but I doubt they are one of the bigger wage payers in the Championship. The TV revenue is greater in the Championship admittedly. The other thing is that Preston already have a number of forwards, two of whom are quite physical (Jon Parkin & Neil Mellor), plus they have two lively forwards Ross Wallace and Steve Elliott. Could they guarantee Graham a regular start ? This is the one area where we have an advantage - I think if Grahm did start for us, he would provided he maintained a decent level of form be pretty much assured of a starting place. excactly and some of your points will be raised by clarke to graham,when it comes down to it we have the capability to be much bigger than Preston.our fan base is allready bigger was gonna pull you on this but actually our average is better than prestons,but our level of football isnt,i think coming to us will be better for him in the long run but what player looks further than his next pound?
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Post by martin27 on Jan 11, 2009 16:13:59 GMT 1
correct £`s are the only stumbling block
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Post by nshackle on Jan 11, 2009 16:52:48 GMT 1
I'm not entirely convinced that any of Preston, Barnsley or Swansea are in a position to offer significantly more £££'s than Town with regards to salary. I did hear Charlton were also interested but they are in dire straits on and off the pitch.
If we were competing with the likes of Birmingham or Reading who have received parachute payments then sure enough, but with the Chamionship lesser lights I suspect we will be not far off competing. Preston had 10k for a top of the table clash with Birmingham this season.
Scunthorpe despite coming down from the Championship were not anywhere near being able to compete with Town in terms of the salary we pay Butler from what I understand.
*if* we can agree a fee with Carlisle, the key issue will be persuading the player we can get out of the division and offer regular football.
I don't think its beyond a possibility that we could persuade the player to sign.
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Post by grist on Jan 11, 2009 17:50:28 GMT 1
excactly and some of your points will be raised by clarke to graham,when it comes down to it we have the capability to be much bigger than Preston.our fan base is allready bigger was gonna pull you on this but actually our average is better than prestons,but our level of football isnt,i think coming to us will be better for him in the long run but what player looks further than his next pound? Graham's career is not going to span beyond the next 10 years so he is unlikely to be looking at a 100 yr history to decide which is the better or bigger club. I could be wrong, but I think he is also unlikely to be looking at our respective average attendances this season before he makes a decision. What he will be looking at is 1. What will club a or b be able to pay me over the next 3 years max? 2. What are the club's prospects 3. Will the Mrs be content to move house instead of me commuting? 4. Will I get a place in the first 11 The answers to these questions will probably be prioritised in the order I've written them, so at the end of the day it is in the lap of the Gods and the only person who might influence DG's thinking is Mr Clark since he has a lot of influence over the variables.
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Post by henseventee on Jan 11, 2009 19:28:50 GMT 1
Just been approached by a friend in Saltburn golf club who knows I support Town, and asked if I knew that we were still talking terms with Danny Graham at the end of last week. Apparentley he was talking to his father on thursday who also said that he talked to Preston last week. If this is true then it means we've agreed a fee with Carlisle?
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Post by townatheart on Jan 11, 2009 19:58:12 GMT 1
Just been approached by a friend in Saltburn golf club who knows I support Town, and asked if I knew that we were still talking terms with Danny Graham at the end of last week. Apparentley he was talking to his father on thursday who also said that he talked to Preston last week. If this is true then it means we've agreed a fee with Carlisle? By the normal process it surely would. Not meaning to be to cynical, but it is a big IF imo. Who knows though, anything is possible.
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Post by thrice on Jan 11, 2009 20:07:32 GMT 1
He will not have a choice to make if the other interested parties do not make bids. Hopefully no more bids will be forthcoming, Carlisle will get twitchy and they will come back pretty soon to bite our hands off.
In the circumstances 250k would be a great bit of business for them.
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Post by terrierng on Jan 11, 2009 20:15:33 GMT 1
He will not have a choice to make if the other interested parties do not make bids. Hopefully no more bids will be forthcoming, Carlisle will get twitchy and they will come back pretty soon to bite our hands off. In the circumstances 250k would be a great bit of business for them. if that happens feck em give em 200k ;D
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