Things that annoyed me yesterday

[andyeastleake]

Some things that annoyed me about yesterday

1) Inciting Fans

The World has gone mad if ANYONE thinks that it is more dangerous to let a player who has just scored a goal to go to his OWN fans to celebrate (but perhaps lean over the perimeter fence slightly) than a player to make a series of gestures (some PLAINLY abusive) to the opposing fans.

Beckford is well suited to his Manager (& his supporters) as he can give it but not take it.

The referee clearly saw the first gesture (he spoke to him about it) and I’d bet plenty the linesman saw the groin high gesture of masturbation.

Cads walked, Beckford got two goals. Even the single digit IQ residents of Billy’s bar could do the maths.

2) The Non-Sending off

Has there ever been a more blatant should have been a booking incident?

Kishishev took him completely out.

When their taxi driver/sleeping team mate beating Manager states he was LUCKY to stay on then you KNOW he should have walked.

3) Radio Leeds

As an exile (and since we’ve been consigned to AM) I forget just how biased Radio Leeds are.

They are (in effect) paid for by the tax payer and therefore should cover ALL clubs in the region fairly.

Did you hear the presenter (Adam Pope??) going on about how before the season started he knew Leeds would go up because of the intimidating atmosphere?

No mention of the fact that they’d BROKEN football league rules to help create that atmosphere (hence giving them an unfair advantage) and by doing so deprived supporters of another club in HIS region the opportunity of seeing the game. Good unbiased coverage from the BBC.

4) Dennis Wise

As I don’t want to type all day I’ll restrict this to his “We don’t want them behind the goals - Stick ‘em in the corner” comment.

You broke the rules dwarf. (but I don’t suppose someone who breaks a sleeping team-mate’s jaw and claims unfair dismissal cares much about rules). I’m not surprised even a REFEREE tells you to F*** off, you objectionable waste of human cells.

I REALLY REALLY hope we have the balls to restrict them to 1,710 tickets (and also state you need a stub from another game to buy a ticket in the home end).

5) West Yorkshire Police

I don’t mind that much being kept in (I got used to it in the eighties).

What I really object to is the shear STUPIDITY of keeping us in for half an hour, Police being everywhere INSIDE the ground as we left, them blocking off Elland road half way down BUT when you walk past the blockade to get to your car you don’t see another Policeman for the rest of your walk on Elland Road. They may as well given us placards saying “Town Fans here” as we walked through the scum outside Billy’s bar.

6) The hypocrisy

To listen to their Manager & supporters go on about the “Billy-gate” (or should that be Paint-gate”) incident you’d think they were angels rather than the owners of the longest charge sheet in British football.

Ask the parents of the Birmingham kid if they would rather have had a few drops of Blue paint spilled?

They’re desecrating his memory state the fans carrying their “Munich 58” daubed giant model planes.

Excuse me while I go and throw up.

7) Their fans

If you go to Zoo’s, when you’re outside a monkey cage, someone invariably asks “I wonder what their thinking”. Next time they do that tell them to save up for a ticket in the away corner at Leeds & then they’ll have an idea.

I swear to God some of their fans spent more time looking at us than the match (unless of course it was just coincidence that when I glanced their way they had ALL just simultaneously turned to look our way). We were on the lower tier and having had them gawp at us for 90 minutes I feel sorry for monkeys (& we didn’t even have a tyre to hide in).

8) The “Your cup final” comments.

We’re in the same third tier league as you. It was a league game.

Less than 20,000 Leeds fans vs Port Vale more than 30,000 Vs. Town.

Sorry whose “Cup final” was it again?

9) Their Fans (again)

That “If you hate Leeds United have a go” chant.

I bet when you went to Man Utd (if you can remember that long ago) you used to chant that walking up the Warwick Road didn’t you?

Yesterday (being kept in etc.) was a reminder of how sh*8te you were treated as a football fan in the eighties. However they’re stuck in a time warp celebrating violence with songs like that.

However I suppose it’s improved (slightly). All you heard in the eighties was Seig Heil Seig Heil.

Perhaps they’ll join us in the 21st century soon.

[LS10]

Jesus christ, you don't take losing very well do you?

Hope you enjoyed your CUP FINAL see you in March.

[hull0leeds4]

andyeastleake said:

Some things that annoyed me about yesterday

1) Inciting Fans

The World has gone mad if ANYONE thinks that it is more dangerous to let a player who has just scored a goal to go to his OWN fans to celebrate (but perhaps lean over the perimeter fence slightly) than a player to make a series of gestures (some PLAINLY abusive) to the opposing fans.

Beckford is well suited to his Manager (& his supporters) as he can give it but not take it.

The referee clearly saw the first gesture (he spoke to him about it) and I’d bet plenty the linesman saw the groin high gesture of masturbation.

Cads walked, Beckford got two goals. Even the single digit IQ residents of Billy’s bar could do the maths.

2) The Non-Sending off

Has there ever been a more blatant should have been a booking incident?

Kishishev took him completely out.

When their taxi driver/sleeping team mate beating Manager states he was LUCKY to stay on then you KNOW he should have walked.

3) Radio Leeds

As an exile (and since we’ve been consigned to AM) I forget just how biased Radio Leeds are.

They are (in effect) paid for by the tax payer and therefore should cover ALL clubs in the region fairly.

Did you hear the presenter (Adam Pope??) going on about how before the season started he knew Leeds would go up because of the intimidating atmosphere?

No mention of the fact that they’d BROKEN football league rules to help create that atmosphere (hence giving them an unfair advantage) and by doing so deprived supporters of another club in HIS region the opportunity of seeing the game. Good unbiased coverage from the BBC.

4) Dennis Wise

As I don’t want to type all day I’ll restrict this to his “We don’t want them behind the goals - Stick ‘em in the corner” comment.

You broke the rules dwarf. (but I don’t suppose someone who breaks a sleeping team-mate’s jaw and claims unfair dismissal cares much about rules). I’m not surprised even a REFEREE tells you to F*** off, you objectionable waste of human cells.

I REALLY REALLY hope we have the balls to restrict them to 1,710 tickets (and also state you need a stub from another game to buy a ticket in the home end).

5) West Yorkshire Police

I don’t mind that much being kept in (I got used to it in the eighties).

What I really object to is the shear STUPIDITY of keeping us in for half an hour, Police being everywhere INSIDE the ground as we left, them blocking off Elland road half way down BUT when you walk past the blockade to get to your car you don’t see another Policeman for the rest of your walk on Elland Road. They may as well given us placards saying “Town Fans here” as we walked through the scum outside Billy’s bar.

6) The hypocrisy

To listen to their Manager & supporters go on about the “Billy-gate” (or should that be Paint-gate”) incident you’d think they were angels rather than the owners of the longest charge sheet in British football.

Ask the parents of the Birmingham kid if they would rather have had a few drops of Blue paint spilled?

They’re desecrating his memory state the fans carrying their “Munich 58” daubed giant model planes.

Excuse me while I go and throw up.

7) Their fans

If you go to Zoo’s, when you’re outside a monkey cage, someone invariably asks “I wonder what their thinking”. Next time they do that tell them to save up for a ticket in the away corner at Leeds & then they’ll have an idea.

I swear to God some of their fans spent more time looking at us than the match (unless of course it was just coincidence that when I glanced their way they had ALL just simultaneously turned to look our way). We were on the lower tier and having had them gawp at us for 90 minutes I feel sorry for monkeys (& we didn’t even have a tyre to hide in).

8) The “Your cup final” comments.

We’re in the same third tier league as you. It was a league game.

Less than 20,000 Leeds fans vs Port Vale more than 30,000 Vs. Town.

Sorry whose “Cup final” was it again?

9) Their Fans (again)

That “If you hate Leeds United have a go” chant.

I bet when you went to Man Utd (if you can remember that long ago) you used to chant that walking up the Warwick Road didn’t you?

Yesterday (being kept in etc.) was a reminder of how sh*8te you were treated as a football fan in the eighties. However they’re stuck in a time warp celebrating violence with songs like that.

However I suppose it’s improved (slightly). All you heard in the eighties was Seig Heil Seig Heil.

Perhaps they’ll join us in the 21st century soon.

;D Blimey

[andyhudd]

andyeastleake said:

Some things that annoyed me about yesterday

1) Inciting Fans

The World has gone mad if ANYONE thinks that it is more dangerous to let a player who has just scored a goal to go to his OWN fans to celebrate (but perhaps lean over the perimeter fence slightly) than a player to make a series of gestures (some PLAINLY abusive) to the opposing fans.

Beckford is well suited to his Manager (& his supporters) as he can give it but not take it.

The referee clearly saw the first gesture (he spoke to him about it) and I’d bet plenty the linesman saw the groin high gesture of masturbation.

Cads walked, Beckford got two goals. Even the single digit IQ residents of Billy’s bar could do the maths.

2) The Non-Sending off

Has there ever been a more blatant should have been a booking incident?

Kishishev took him completely out.

When their taxi driver/sleeping team mate beating Manager states he was LUCKY to stay on then you KNOW he should have walked.

3) Radio Leeds

As an exile (and since we’ve been consigned to AM) I forget just how biased Radio Leeds are.

They are (in effect) paid for by the tax payer and therefore should cover ALL clubs in the region fairly.

Did you hear the presenter (Adam Pope??) going on about how before the season started he knew Leeds would go up because of the intimidating atmosphere?

No mention of the fact that they’d BROKEN football league rules to help create that atmosphere (hence giving them an unfair advantage) and by doing so deprived supporters of another club in HIS region the opportunity of seeing the game. Good unbiased coverage from the BBC.

4) Dennis Wise

As I don’t want to type all day I’ll restrict this to his “We don’t want them behind the goals - Stick ‘em in the corner” comment.

You broke the rules dwarf. (but I don’t suppose someone who breaks a sleeping team-mate’s jaw and claims unfair dismissal cares much about rules). I’m not surprised even a REFEREE tells you to F*** off, you objectionable waste of human cells.

I REALLY REALLY hope we have the balls to restrict them to 1,710 tickets (and also state you need a stub from another game to buy a ticket in the home end).

5) West Yorkshire Police

I don’t mind that much being kept in (I got used to it in the eighties).

What I really object to is the shear STUPIDITY of keeping us in for half an hour, Police being everywhere INSIDE the ground as we left, them blocking off Elland road half way down BUT when you walk past the blockade to get to your car you don’t see another Policeman for the rest of your walk on Elland Road. They may as well given us placards saying “Town Fans here” as we walked through the scum outside Billy’s bar.

6) The hypocrisy

To listen to their Manager & supporters go on about the “Billy-gate” (or should that be Paint-gate”) incident you’d think they were angels rather than the owners of the longest charge sheet in British football.

Ask the parents of the Birmingham kid if they would rather have had a few drops of Blue paint spilled?

They’re desecrating his memory state the fans carrying their “Munich 58” daubed giant model planes.

Excuse me while I go and throw up.

7) Their fans

If you go to Zoo’s, when you’re outside a monkey cage, someone invariably asks “I wonder what their thinking”. Next time they do that tell them to save up for a ticket in the away corner at Leeds & then they’ll have an idea.

I swear to God some of their fans spent more time looking at us than the match (unless of course it was just coincidence that when I glanced their way they had ALL just simultaneously turned to look our way). We were on the lower tier and having had them gawp at us for 90 minutes I feel sorry for monkeys (& we didn’t even have a tyre to hide in).

8) The “Your cup final” comments.

We’re in the same third tier league as you. It was a league game.

Less than 20,000 Leeds fans vs Port Vale more than 30,000 Vs. Town.

Sorry whose “Cup final” was it again?

9) Their Fans (again)

That “If you hate Leeds United have a go” chant.

I bet when you went to Man Utd (if you can remember that long ago) you used to chant that walking up the Warwick Road didn’t you?

Yesterday (being kept in etc.) was a reminder of how sh*8te you were treated as a football fan in the eighties. However they’re stuck in a time warp celebrating violence with songs like that.

However I suppose it’s improved (slightly). All you heard in the eighties was Seig Heil Seig Heil.

Perhaps they’ll join us in the 21st century soon.

We did deserve to lose in the end but you make some good points. Leeds and Wise are massive hypocrites ... the worst fans in the country - in terms of violence and that - do they wonder why everyone hates them?

[hull0leeds4]

andyeastleake said:

Some things that annoyed me about yesterday

1) Inciting Fans

The World has gone mad if ANYONE thinks that it is more dangerous to let a player who has just scored a goal to go to his OWN fans to celebrate (but perhaps lean over the perimeter fence slightly) than a player to make a series of gestures (some PLAINLY abusive) to the opposing fans.

Beckford is well suited to his Manager (& his supporters) as he can give it but not take it.

The referee clearly saw the first gesture (he spoke to him about it) and I’d bet plenty the linesman saw the groin high gesture of masturbation.

Cads walked, Beckford got two goals. Even the single digit IQ residents of Billy’s bar could do the maths.

2) The Non-Sending off

Has there ever been a more blatant should have been a booking incident?

Kishishev took him completely out.

When their taxi driver/sleeping team mate beating Manager states he was LUCKY to stay on then you KNOW he should have walked.

3) Radio Leeds

As an exile (and since we’ve been consigned to AM) I forget just how biased Radio Leeds are.

They are (in effect) paid for by the tax payer and therefore should cover ALL clubs in the region fairly.

Did you hear the presenter (Adam Pope??) going on about how before the season started he knew Leeds would go up because of the intimidating atmosphere?

No mention of the fact that they’d BROKEN football league rules to help create that atmosphere (hence giving them an unfair advantage) and by doing so deprived supporters of another club in HIS region the opportunity of seeing the game. Good unbiased coverage from the BBC.

4) Dennis Wise

As I don’t want to type all day I’ll restrict this to his “We don’t want them behind the goals - Stick ‘em in the corner” comment.

You broke the rules dwarf. (but I don’t suppose someone who breaks a sleeping team-mate’s jaw and claims unfair dismissal cares much about rules). I’m not surprised even a REFEREE tells you to F*** off, you objectionable waste of human cells.

I REALLY REALLY hope we have the balls to restrict them to 1,710 tickets (and also state you need a stub from another game to buy a ticket in the home end).

5) West Yorkshire Police

I don’t mind that much being kept in (I got used to it in the eighties).

What I really object to is the shear STUPIDITY of keeping us in for half an hour, Police being everywhere INSIDE the ground as we left, them blocking off Elland road half way down BUT when you walk past the blockade to get to your car you don’t see another Policeman for the rest of your walk on Elland Road. They may as well given us placards saying “Town Fans here” as we walked through the scum outside Billy’s bar.

6) The hypocrisy

To listen to their Manager & supporters go on about the “Billy-gate” (or should that be Paint-gate”) incident you’d think they were angels rather than the owners of the longest charge sheet in British football.

had a few drops Askof the the parents Birmingham kid if they would rather have of Blue paint spilled?

They’re desecrating his memory state the fans carrying their “Munich 58” daubed giant model planes.

Excuse me while I go and throw up.

7) Their fans

If you go to Zoo’s, when you’re outside a monkey cage, someone invariably asks “I wonder what their thinking”. Next time they do that tell them to save up for a ticket in the away corner at Leeds & then they’ll have an idea.

I swear to God some of their fans spent more time looking at us than the match (unless of course it was just coincidence that when I glanced their way they had ALL just simultaneously turned to look our way). We were on the lower tier and having had them gawp at us for 90 minutes I feel sorry for monkeys (& we didn’t even have a tyre to hide in).

8) The “Your cup final” comments.

We’re in the same third tier league as you. It was a league game.

Less than 20,000 Leeds fans vs Port Vale more than 30,000 Vs. Town.

Sorry whose “Cup final” was it again?

9) Their Fans (again)

That “If you hate Leeds United have a go” chant.

I bet when you went to Man Utd (if you can remember that long ago) you used to chant that walking up the Warwick Road didn’t you?

Yesterday (being kept in etc.) was a reminder of how sh*8te you were treated as a football fan in the eighties. However they’re stuck in a time warp celebrating violence with songs like that.

However I suppose it’s improved (slightly). All you heard in the eighties was Seig Heil Seig Heil.

Perhaps they’ll join us in the 21st century soon.

Just read your post again, and amidst the plethora of ridiculous comments I spotted one which I had to pick up on.

The boy killed at Birmingham was a 15 year old Leeds fan from Northampton who was attending his first ever game, he was crushed to death when a wall collapsed after riot police had forced fans against it, it was not caused by hooliganism.

If you are going to make comments like that, at least have the decency to know what you are talking about.

[malvernterrier]

''Just read your post again, and amidst the plethora of ridiculous comments I spotted one which I had to pick up on.

The boy killed at Birmingham was a 15 year old Leeds fan from Northampton who was attending his first ever game, he was crushed to death when a wall collapsed after riot police had forced fans against it, it was not caused by hooliganism.

If you are going to make comments like that, at least have the decency to know what you are talking about. ''

What the F**k difference does it make who he supported?!!!!? If it wasnt for the L**ds fans rioting there would have been no riot police.......every football fan in the Country was in a morose mood that day following the Bradford fire.....seems L**ds fans just wanted the usual ruck Are you REALLY trying to defend the actions of the L**ds fans that day? I utterly condemn the actions of the nutters who defaced your statue of BB....however it pails into insignificance when it comes to a lad being killed just cos he wanted to watch a soccer game......do you condemn your fans past actions? Cos if you do, you should be condemning your present fans too! Why? Because the Town fans who were at the game yesterday were made to stay inside your ground for half an hour after the game. Why was that? They were season ticket holders, a lot of them women and kids. They had done nothing wrong. Why were they kept inside? Because of your fans wanting to hurt them....thats why. I havnt been kept inside a ground for decades!!!!! Your fans live in the 70s and 80s and seem to be proud of it!

[hull0leeds4]

Of course I'm not condoning the actions of Leeds fans that day, and no it doesn't matter who he supported, but I'm just pointing out that that particular incident was caused by the police who waded into a Large group of fans who were just trying to get out of the way and was not an act of hooliganism.
I think it is important to make that clear.

As for your point about being kept in the ground after the game, don't you think that might have something to do with a tin of paint and booing during the minutes applause?

Any animosity that existed yesterday was created by yourselves, surely you can see that.

[malvernterrier]

Its like talking to a brick wall

[marshian]

Nah, you'd get more sense out of a brick wall.

[DeepSpace]

First point: L###s fans have more headcases, animals & downright psychos per head of support than anyone else in the country. there are teams with more fans than them, teams from more deprived/run down areas...whatever justification you try to put on it, no matter how they try to defend the indefensible, there is something about that club that breeds violence, arrogance and contempt for the 'ordinary' fan. For that reason, pointless & unnecessary though it was, until I see our neighbours come on here apologising for the destruction & intimidation that they have been responsible for down the years, I see no reason to reciprocate about a bit of paint that by all accounts took barely an hour to clean up.

Which leads to the second point. The original poster is spot on about the problems caused by us having been kept in. Ostensibly, this was to protect us (so why not lock them in & let us out first??). But, walking down Elland Rd, afterwards, we were forced to run a gauntlet of abuse & intimidation that I can't remember encountering in many a long year. Why?? Not only because of the considerable number of neanderthals congregating around pubs, etc., but for the very reason that we tried to explain inside the ground. Those of us just wanting to blend into the departing crowd were prevented from so doing, & thus when we finally could leave were easily identifiable. Truly, truly a ridiculous strategy.

As a club, they more than anyone else are a blot on the footballing landscape. I know there are genuine fans, but for God's sake, you have about as much moral authority as Mugabe, so clear off back to your own yob-infested boards & leave us in peace.

[malvernterrier]

The one good thing about this division is the safety and sheer enjoyability (is that a word?) of going to away games. For the last few seasons its been brilliant to arrive, drink, chat with other fans of other teams, watch Town, have a few more drinks, catch a train home and not worry one bit about trouble. Even down at Millwall upon wandering into a pretty dicey pub, we were welcomed and the 'wall fans told us what not to do and the best way to the ground. I didnt go to bellend road this time, I was at the beamback, but from what I can gather from peoples experiences on here and a couple of mates who DID go, It was more like an ordeal than a day out! I for one hope l**ds get out of this division......they are not a nice part of football. As for the Billygate scandal........the only downside to it in my opinion is the FACT that people will get hurt by the l**ds animals due to it!!!!!

[andyeastleake]

Hull0Leeds4

I think it would do you good to take off your blinkers for a few moments and read a book called Parklife by Nick Varley.

In a chapter entitled “Bigots” he details the events at Birmingham. The piece starts “and worst still was the riot of which Hitler would have been proud”.

Over 4 pages, he describes the actions of the scum (sorry there is no other appropriate word) who followed your club that day. Odd snippets include a coach carrying a party of Asians back from a wedding being stoned, a nurse trying to treat one of the injured being kicked unconscious and Eddie Gray pleading with the scum to behave whilst they continued to riot.

A total of 81 people (including 21 police) were taken to hospital that day.

There are different witness descriptions of how the wall collapsed. However strangely none of them state “and the boys death was as result of heavy handed policing” as you do elsewhere on this board – I’d love you to put that argument to the West Midlands police - & I wonder if the boys mother would REALLY regard your viewpoint that is death was not due to hooliganism as decent.

How can you defend the indefensible?

PS Before you (or any of your cronies) come on complaining of media bias. I should point out Nick Varley is a LEEDS UNITED supporter.

[dazb69]

No, ALL L***s fans are whiter than white aren't they?

[Deleted]

Just seen the highlights
Pathetic defending by clarke and mirf. Thought smithies had a good game couldn't be blamed for any of the goals. One for the future.

[macgalph]

Sorry to be picky, I agree with most of your post, but the BBC coverage could not have been fairer. FM 924 done the Leeds biased commentary and AM 774 done the Huddersfield biased commentary.

Did Home FM do their usual Caravan dwellers homily's