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Post by Overton Terrier on Mar 18, 2009 9:41:43 GMT 1
Amazing how many of us are prepared to accept mid table mediocrity after all the money spent this season.
What amazes me even more though is how many people think Clark will get us up next season. I hope so - but his pathetic attempts at solving our goalscoring problem when he had the opportunity in January ( and since with a loan signing ) does not inspire confidence.
As previously mentioned on this site, there is no bottomless pit of money, I suspect that we are operating on the limit now which means selling/ offloading before we can buy.
Who will take the likes of Jevons and Parker off us?
Hoyle has some major decisions to make for next season like the cost of season tickets - does he repeat this seasons offer or increase the price - thus ensuring that we play to a half empty stadium? That would really feel like old times and not a sign that we are heading for the promised land!
Clark has recently started to blame the team for recent results but I think he is really deflecting blame that lies firmly at his own door.
I fully understand the likes of Gary Roberts - he looks demotivated and not what he was 6 weeks ago, the constant delivery of dangerous crosses to so called strikers who don't even challenge for the header is bound to take it's toll.
Like others, I was caught up in hype of our Centenary Season, the 16,000 season tickets sold, 10 new players etc - like everyone else on this site I have been a Terrier all my life and always will be - I just thought at long last we could be optimistic about a season and feel badly let down.
Onwards to Saturday and a "dead" fixture for us with 9 games left of the season.
Rant over.
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Post by panasonicgeese on Mar 18, 2009 9:52:43 GMT 1
Badly let down is how I feel as well and already have a small worry about next season despite all this 'Were going Up As Champions' stuff.
No one on here is prepared to accept mid table mediocrity and all Town fans I talk too are very unhappy with what has been a massive backwards step since January.
Lee Clark has to be given time to put his mark on the squad and sort out for next season and therefor Town's followers should be patient with him. Sacking managers every 5 minutes does not help a club but creates huge instability.
At this moment in time (and it's the first end of season I have felt like this) I'm watching for the ST price announcement with interest as after witnessing some real sh*t performances that cost me good money, I don't currently have much of a stomach for much more mediocrity and that is how much they have worn me down!
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Post by Davey Monroe on Mar 18, 2009 10:08:44 GMT 1
I'm going to reserve judgement until next season. A good pre-season and a few new faces could work wonders... It angers me that we're the only side in the Football League without a strike-force but I do feel that general performances have been quite encouraging up until the last few weeks.
People are entitled to have a moan at Clark and his staff but I really do think he ought to be given more time. He's currently getting off very lightly compared to past managers; take Ternent for example, he started off with a few decent performances but his home form let him down and when he started blaming the players many Town fans wanted him out; now the same thing's happening with Clark - he started off with a few decent performances but his away form has been terrible and now he's starting to blame the players! One things for sure, we can't keep swapping managers! We need to give Clark enough time to have a real go at this!
Keep the faith...etc
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Post by yorkshiretripod on Mar 18, 2009 10:17:07 GMT 1
I fully understand your frustrations OT, justifiable as they are. On the topic of a striker though I'm not sure it's fair to lay the blame solely at the feet of Clark. During the very short January window plenty of strikers with ability to score at this level were touted, but if we're priced out by the selling club or indeed the player himself, then what more is Clark to do but persevere in looking elsewhere? Sure, it would have been wonderful if we could have brought in a Thornley/Knight/Ndlovu to have re-ignited our season, but with the way the market has altered in recent years, getting clubs to part with players of said quality (even for a loan spell) is much tougher.
As for Roberts I haven't been as impressed with him as I wanted to be. His crossing in the early part of the season and the initial part of Clark's reign were eye-catching and dangerous but he has flattered to deceive for me recently, opting to hold on to the ball and beat a man umpteen times merely by attempting to turn in a full circle numerous times before almost falling over. Are the players not as culpable for recent poor form as much as, if not more than, Clark?
I'm eternally hopeful that with a full close/pre-season with the players he chooses to retain plus his own summer recruits, he can be as successful as the likes of Di Matteo and Nigel Pearson have been this.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2009 13:39:57 GMT 1
does he repeat this seasons offer or increase the price - thus ensuring that we play to a half empty stadium? That would really feel like old times and not a sign that we are heading for the promised land! A cheap as chips season ticket offer getting part timers through the gate does not scream promised land to me. The football comes first, the fans second. If we are playing good football week in and out, and are competing right up there at the top for a decent place, the fans will come. Look at the stats from the last ten years when we were making noises under Jacko, we had no problem getting crowds that would match our average for this year. If Leeds had had our offer I reckon they would have got upwards of 100,000 applicants, doesn't make any difference to where they sit in this league. Don't worry about that extra couple of thousand dropping off the gate numbers, like I said if we are up there they'll slowly come back, because of what the club is achieving not because of what price is wrote on the ticket. |
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Post by hotshot on Mar 18, 2009 13:50:55 GMT 1
What amazes me even more though is how many people think Clark will get us up next season. I hope so - but his pathetic attempts at solving our goalscoring problem when he had the opportunity in January ( and since with a loan signing ) does not inspire confidence. Agreed, I am hugely  as we were in a great position to claim a play off place. Next season will be interesting but i am not holding my breath. Many of our players think they are better than they are and think they have made it, Collins and co spring to mind. Wish the management will stop going on about the Premier League, it's just adding pressure let's get out of this division first. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2009 13:52:46 GMT 1
In January, I accept that Lee didn't get in the striker that he, we, Dean Hoyle or anyone connected to Town wanted, due to overpricing of players.
But he did say before the window that he wouldn't pay over the odds for a striker and would only bring the right people in.
I didn't hear anybody saying "just pay the inflated fee" or "just bring x or y in despite him being a tosser with a bad attitude". Therefore, I can not understand why so many people are using hindsight now and protesting against what happened in January.
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Post by runner76 on Mar 18, 2009 13:53:53 GMT 1
Some valid points, fella. However, I think we should reserve judgement on LC until this time next year - we need stability in the management, and that takes years, not months.
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Post by timrankhan on Mar 18, 2009 13:58:11 GMT 1
To be fair to LC, had we brought in two good strikers in January then chances are we would now occupy a play off spot.
We went after Graham and Lambert and had we got those two, things would have been different.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2009 14:00:48 GMT 1
Some valid points, fella. However, I think we should reserve judgement on LC until this time next year - we need stability in the management, and that takes years, not months.[/quote] Quite right. If we sack our manager every 12-18 months, where does it end and you stand by a manager for a fair amount of time. I think if we stick by Clark for a year or 2 at least, we will be on the right track. If we started to look really relegation threatened, then fair enough - start thinking about somebody new. But not after 13 games when the negative comments started. He needs a fair crack of the whip. |
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as we were in a great position to claim a play off place. Next season will be interesting but i am not holding my breath. Many of our players think they are better than they are and think they have made it, Collins and co spring to mind. Wish the management will stop going on about the Premier League, it's just adding pressure let's get out of this division first.
