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Post by Richard Adonis on Dec 28, 2010 17:44:24 GMT 1
How much longer do we have to endure this tactically inept manager? Boxing Day was an embarrassment that we were tactically outdone by the second worst manager we have ever had. Clark saw fit to start with a footballing side, against a team which were obviously going to close up shop, Rhodes and Garner started against a big back line who closed us down at every opportunity, we had the option of playing lee and Afobe from the start, and lifting the ball over their defence, but no he didn’t, and we paid the price, the most embarrassing thing was putting Lee on with a minute left! Then today we go against one of the fastest footballing sides in the division, and he plays Lee and Novak up front!!!! Is it me or is this arse way around? I am tired of Clark, how can “lesser teams” manage to do their homework better than us not that Southampton are a lesser side, but look at the stats we are getting destroyed, totally and utterly hammered, . I said it all season, we are no better than we were last year, in fact we are worse. Please for the sake of this club, do the honourable thing Clark, and leave, you are out of your depth!!! And I am sure the I love Clark brigade will be on the defence..” give him time” we are 3rd in the league, in the fa cup, 2 games from Wembley… but please please tell me more than half a dozen games this year when we have been outstanding, we are average in this shite division, and I am utterly deflated!
I will be going to the Sheff game but that is it until he goes.
All he can do if things are going wrong is change the players, he cannot change the style of play effectively.
So Mr Clark F**K OFF
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Post by westhtafc on Dec 28, 2010 17:55:39 GMT 1
Abso-fookin-lutey spot on! :appl:
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Post by terrierpark on Dec 28, 2010 17:55:56 GMT 1
i second that emotion
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Post by flossby on Dec 28, 2010 17:58:34 GMT 1
Well said that man...we are an absolute embarrasment
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Post by elly1 on Dec 28, 2010 18:00:35 GMT 1
Knee jerk.
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Post by garyroberts'leftfoot on Dec 28, 2010 18:01:00 GMT 1
The thing that annoys me is that Hartlepool can come to us, set up defensively and frustrate us. They grab a goal on the break and defend for their lives.
Why couldn't we try to do that at Southampton?! Instead we appear to have tried to play our normal game, which we know is quite attacking and we get absolutely smashed!
Why not try to keep it tight!
After we went ahead we should have been defending for our lives and trying to clink onto the clean sheet. However we inevitably collapse.
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Post by duncfost01 on Dec 28, 2010 18:02:34 GMT 1
Dean didnt make a Sackful of Brass being a fool. I am sure he is as angry as we are. O'Driscoll from Doncaster is the man we need. He has taken them as far as they will go.
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Post by elly1 on Dec 28, 2010 18:03:52 GMT 1
Dean didnt make a Sackful of Brass being a fool. I am sure he is as angry as we are. O'Driscoll from Doncaster is the man we need. He has taken them as far as they will go. If there was a manager I would accept to replacing Lee Clark after the knee jerk reactions it would be that man! |
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Post by terriers123 on Dec 28, 2010 18:04:40 GMT 1
I really want Clark to suceed but I'm fast running out of patience. How can people say this is knee jerk did they go to Rochdale, Southampton and Oldham.
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Post by elly1 on Dec 28, 2010 18:07:30 GMT 1
I really want Clark to suceed but I'm fast running out of patience. How can people say this is knee jerk did they go to Rochdale, Southampton and Oldham. But then there is Brighton, Charlton and Sheff Wed. People forget that. We lack consistency, that's all that needs to be addressed. |
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Post by Blueblood on Dec 28, 2010 18:08:08 GMT 1
three little words UTTER FUCKING SHITE
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Post by Richard Adonis on Dec 28, 2010 18:08:10 GMT 1
how about Swindon, Petoborough, home to Exeter, bristol Rovers, and tranmere? for Knee Jerk
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Post by elly1 on Dec 28, 2010 18:09:43 GMT 1
how about Swindon, Petoborough, home to Exeter, bristol Rovers, and tranmere? for Knee Jerk Or how about incredibly inconsistent, conceding too many goals, and being "utter shite" and still sitting 3rd in the league? |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2010 18:10:34 GMT 1
how about Swindon, Petoborough, home to Exeter, bristol Rovers, and tranmere? for Knee Jerk Or how about incredibly inconsistent, conceding too many goals, and being "utter shite" and still sitting 3rd in the league? Which will become 10th when the rest of the teams have caught us up with their games in hand |
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Post by griffa on Dec 28, 2010 18:11:04 GMT 1
Dean didnt make a Sackful of Brass being a fool. I am sure he is as angry as we are. O'Driscoll from Doncaster is the man we need. He has taken them as far as they will go. O'Driscoll would be a great appointment - but would he realistically sign for Town? I have supported Lee Clark- but it's just not good enough. |
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Post by newspaperjoe on Dec 28, 2010 18:14:03 GMT 1
But we have lost 43% of our games so far this season and, as someone already pointed out, there are 9 teams below us who are within 3 points of us and have at least one game in hand. 3rd in the table or not, that is nowhere bloody near good enough.
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Post by elly1 on Dec 28, 2010 18:15:49 GMT 1
Or how about incredibly inconsistent, conceding too many goals, and being "utter shite" and still sitting 3rd in the league? Which will become 10th when the rest of the teams have caught us up with their games in hand They have to win those games first!!! And have you put it into any perspective that these teams below us with a game in hand will be playing against each other? All if's and but's get a grip! |
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Post by marshian on Dec 28, 2010 18:18:56 GMT 1
So how many more defeats will it take before you start doubting your Messiah! |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2010 18:21:06 GMT 1
Which will become 10th when the rest of the teams have caught us up with their games in hand They have to win those games first!!! And have you put it into any perspective that these teams below us with a game in hand will be playing against each other? All if's and but's get a grip! to be fair we are really about 7th - is that good enough? |
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Post by alex on Dec 28, 2010 18:21:56 GMT 1
How much longer do we have to endure this tactically inept manager? Boxing Day was an embarrassment that we were tactically outdone by the second worst manager we have ever had. Clark saw fit to start with a footballing side, against a team which were obviously going to close up shop, Rhodes and Garner started against a big back line who closed us down at every opportunity, we had the option of playing lee and Afobe from the start, and lifting the ball over their defence, but no he didn’t, and we paid the price, the most embarrassing thing was putting Lee on with a minute left! Then today we go against one of the fastest footballing sides in the division, and he plays Lee and Novak up front!!!! Is it me or is this arse way around? I am tired of Clark, how can “lesser teams” manage to do their homework better than us not that Southampton are a lesser side, but look at the stats we are getting destroyed, totally and utterly hammered, . I said it all season, we are no better than we were last year, in fact we are worse. Please for the sake of this club, do the honourable thing Clark, and leave, you are out of your depth!!! And I am sure the I love Clark brigade will be on the defence..” give him time” we are 3rd in the league, in the fa cup, 2 games from Wembley… but please please tell me more than half a dozen games this year when we have been outstanding, we are average in this shite division, and I am utterly deflated! I will be going to the Sheff game but that is it until he goes. All he can do if things are going wrong is change the players, he cannot change the style of play effectively. So Mr Clark F**K OFF You are wrong.... We were beaten by the worst manager, not the second worst... |
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Post by elly1 on Dec 28, 2010 18:22:37 GMT 1
So how many more defeats will it take before you start doubting your Messiah! He's by no way my Messiah! I have my doubts, and on many occasion I've questioned some of his decisions. But, coming on here after a defeat (yes, it was a drubbing) saying "Clark out", "Hoyle needs to sack Clark" is knee jerk, Nobody was saying this when we beat the likes of Brighton. In response to your question, as long as we are in the top 4 come March to mount a real push for the top 2, I don't care how many defeats we have! We need to improve dramatically yes, but people are getting on like were in the bottom 3 not the top 3 (as it stands)! Money doesn't necessarily buy you success! The quicker people realise that the bloody better! |
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Post by ritchie on Dec 28, 2010 18:26:37 GMT 1
no chance getting o'driscoll..pretty sure he is a big donny fan and has turned down big jobs.
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Post by flossby on Dec 28, 2010 18:31:55 GMT 1
So how many more defeats will it take before you start doubting your Messiah! He's by no way my Messiah! I have my doubts, and on many occasion I've questioned some of his decisions. But, coming on here after a defeat (yes, it was a drubbing) saying "Clark out", "Hoyle needs to sack Clark" is knee jerk, Nobody was saying this when we beat the likes of Brighton. In response to your question, as long as we are in the top 4 come March to mount a real push for the top 2, I don't care how many defeats we have! We need to improve dramatically yes, but people are getting on like were in the bottom 3 not the top 3 (as it stands)! Money doesn't necessarily buy you success! The quicker people realise that the bloody better! If you honestly believe this side will be in the top 4 come March you are in a dream world, we are so inconsistent you never know what town side are going to turn up and neither does Clark, we are awful & have been for some time, can't paper over the cracks it is just not good enough & things need to change fast. |
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Post by fredcarno on Dec 28, 2010 18:38:08 GMT 1
What decent manager at this level would set up away at Southampton with two attacking wingers who don't track back and another one who can't defend for toffee at fullback , and our top scorer on the bench.
Answers please on a postcard to Lee Clark.
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Post by elly1 on Dec 28, 2010 18:44:16 GMT 1
What decent manager at this level would set up away at Southampton with two attacking wingers who don't track back and another one who can't defend for toffee at fullback , and our top scorer on the bench. Answers please on a postcard to Lee Clark. Andy Scott (Brentford)? Keith Hill (Rochdale)? Gus Poyet (Brighton)? Danny Wilson (Swindon)? :ninja: |
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Post by thomo on Dec 28, 2010 18:45:08 GMT 1
To get top two we've got to be so bloody consistent from now on. In two years under Clark we've not come anywhere close to what we need to be. Hope Clark proves me wrong but would expect us to win half our remaining games at best. Listening to clarky, he sounded down but at least he kept level headed today - his previous rants have been cringeworthy. New midfield signing a possibility for 1st jan tho. But need to sort the defence too!
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Post by stellify on Dec 28, 2010 19:29:47 GMT 1
I'd like to know how he was tactically outdone by Wanksworth. They stuck 10 men behind the ball and the players couldn't cross. there defenders got in the way of everything and there keeper had a good game. QWE bossed it like Exeter and couldnt break them down due to being inept at baeting the first man. NOT CLARKS FAULT
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Post by swam4mwg on Dec 28, 2010 19:38:55 GMT 1
The problem with Clark is that he is predictable. We have seen teams such as Hartlepool, Exeter, and Tranmere etc come here and set their stall out. Town haven;t had the answers to get round that. Losing at Southampton wasn;t a surprise. They are a good team who are up there. Town aren't quite the great team we thought they would be this season. Town have now lost nine games. The only comforting thing is that the rest of the league is inconsistant as well. I have never been totally convinced by Lee Clark. Excellent display against Sheffield Wednesday at Hillsborough and a fighting win against Brighton.However then you get games like Hartlepool and Exeter. Its inconsistant in the extreme. I am sure Dean Hoyle isn't happy with it either, given all the money he has ploughed in. I still predict we will make the play-0ffs, merely because no other team can get ahead in this league either. Sadly that isn't down to good managment.
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Post by Terrier Ramone on Dec 28, 2010 19:41:28 GMT 1
He's by no way my Messiah! I have my doubts, and on many occasion I've questioned some of his decisions. But, coming on here after a defeat (yes, it was a drubbing) saying "Clark out", "Hoyle needs to sack Clark" is knee jerk, Nobody was saying this when we beat the likes of Brighton. In response to your question, as long as we are in the top 4 come March to mount a real push for the top 2, I don't care how many defeats we have! We need to improve dramatically yes, but people are getting on like were in the bottom 3 not the top 3 (as it stands)! Money doesn't necessarily buy you success! The quicker people realise that the bloody better! we are so inconsistent you never know what town side are going to turn up and neither does Clark, we are awful & have been for some time, can't paper over the cracks it is just not good enough & things need to change fast. Why is he in a dream world? It is blatantly obvious that a consistent team would be miles clear in this pretty average league. It is very worrying that we have lost so many games, it is very heartening to be where we are in the league playing nowhere near our full potential. If we pick up by about 20% of what we are doing now, it is highly likely we will be in the top 4 at the aforementioned time. |
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Post by Terrier Ramone on Dec 28, 2010 19:57:46 GMT 1
How much longer do we have to endure this tactically inept manager? Boxing Day was an embarrassment that we were tactically outdone by the second worst manager we have ever had. Clark saw fit to start with a footballing side, against a team which were obviously going to close up shop, Rhodes and Garner started against a big back line who closed us down at every opportunity, we had the option of playing lee and Afobe from the start, and lifting the ball over their defence, but no he didn’t, and we paid the price, the most embarrassing thing was putting Lee on with a minute left! Then today we go against one of the fastest footballing sides in the division, and he plays Lee and Novak up front!!!! Is it me or is this arse way around? I am tired of Clark, how can “lesser teams” manage to do their homework better than us not that Southampton are a lesser side, but look at the stats we are getting destroyed, totally and utterly hammered, . I said it all season, we are no better than we were last year, in fact we are worse. Please for the sake of this club, do the honourable thing Clark, and leave, you are out of your depth!!! And I am sure the I love Clark brigade will be on the defence..” give him time” we are 3rd in the league, in the fa cup, 2 games from Wembley… but please please tell me more than half a dozen games this year when we have been outstanding, we are average in this shite division, and I am utterly deflated! I will be going to the Sheff game but that is it until he goes. All he can do if things are going wrong is change the players, he cannot change the style of play effectively. So Mr Clark F**K OFF So many things wrong with this post don't know where to start... so let's go for the beginning: We weren't tactically undone on Boxing Day. Wadsworth did what any half intelligent manager would do against us at the Galpharm & put everyone behind the ball, hoping for a point & even a breakaway goal. We will have prepared for this but couldn't break them down on the day. Wadsworth was by far the worst manager we ever had. 90% of us on here would have started with Garner & Rhodes, hindsight is a wonderful thing. Lee had a blinder against Saints at our place & totally roughed up their defence, therefore no problem with him playing today. soundls like they won the battle today so overall 1-1. Novak scored so fair enough too. As for you going to Sheff & then that's it until he goes... pathetic, but let's hope you give your ticket to someone who supports the club & not some whining kid ( the sad thing being I bet you're not actually a child). You support your team through thick & thin... but at the moment it's not that thin as you yourself have quoted what we are doing this year. Not changing the style of play? Against Hartlepool he started 442, went 343 & then even 244! As for Mr Clark FUCK OFF... this would imply that he is deliberately trying to screw up his time here. The man is blatantly doing his best (which may ultimately be not good enough) but I have it on good authority that he works all hours of the day & night to do his best for us... so he certainly does not deserve abuse like that. I'm pissed off with us losing so badly today (though I did expect us to lose) so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt to let you think about your post & retract it... if you still feel the same tomorrow I look forward to you toddling off to support Walsall or some other unfortunate team :wave2: |
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