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Post by Terrier9 on Jan 31, 2011 22:26:16 GMT 1
The benefit of Champsionship football TV money = + £4m Increased gates = + £2m source: Dean Hoyle - 22 January Merchandise , avdertisining, corporate boxes, corporate packages, sponsorship etc = £++++m FA Cup game vs Arsenal unbudgeted for = Say 60k @ £25 (more but cost etc) = +£500k + Selling Theo = +£Whatever we signed him for Wages up for Cadders, Kilbane, Hunt back with us (minimal), Colgan (minimal) Wages down for Carey, Croft, Garner leaving, Nathan out on loan Theo going completely The cost of signing the striker we need on deadline day? Expensive, over priced, over budget The cost of not signing the striker we need on deadline day? Any major chance of automatic promotion and all the plusses from the above. Wed, Charlton, Southampton have strengthened, we MUST bring a proven striker in or I we can't "expect" a top two finish It would be nothing short of ludicrous not to do - There's running a club like a business and running a club too much like a business and failing to grasp a wonderful opportunity. This club isn't sustainable in this division!! We didn't get the man we needed last season and paid for it - now its more crucial. No goal scorer = play-offs = gamble But even a goal scorer can't promise top 2 with wednesday and saints looking good now
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Jan 31, 2011 22:28:23 GMT 1
Veiled criticism of Dean Hoyle = twat
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Post by Porrohman on Jan 31, 2011 22:28:58 GMT 1
The benefit of Champsionship football TV money = + £4m Increased gates = + £2m source: Dean Hoyle - 22 January Merchandise , avdertisining, corporate boxes, corporate packages, sponsorship etc = £++++m FA Cup game vs Arsenal unbudgeted for = Say 60k @ £25 (more but cost etc) = +£500k + Selling Theo = +£Whatever we signed him for Wages up for Cadders, Kilbane, Hunt back with us (minimal), Colgan (minimal) Wages down for Carey, Croft, Garner leaving, Nathan out on loan Theo going completely The cost of signing the striker we need on deadline day? Expensive, over priced, over budget The cost of not signing the striker we need on deadline day? Any major chance of automatic promotion and all the plusses from the above. Wed, Charlton, Southampton have strengthened, we MUST bring a proven striker in or I we can't "expect" a top two finish It would be nothing short of ludicrous not to do - There's running a club like a business and running a club too much like a business and failing to grasp a wonderful opportunity. This club isn't sustainable in this division!! We didn't get the man we needed last season and paid for it - now its more crucial. But we have signed Cadamarteri!!!! Just what we needed Unless he injured himself signing the contract
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Post by terry on Jan 31, 2011 22:30:52 GMT 1
This threads been going a day, we've only signed a back up winger til the end of the season, our only source is Oggy, and yet it's the most viewed thread on DATM EVER :iconlol:
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Post by specialun on Jan 31, 2011 22:31:46 GMT 1
You can't promise anything - correct
But I can promise that if we don't sign a striker then we won't make the top 2.
1 in 4 chance after that. 75% staying down = Pilks gone? Smithies? Rhodes? etc
Leeds took the "wrong" financial decision to keep Beckford last season, but it got them over the line.
The cost benefit analysis of pushing the boat out to sign a striker or not is that one sided - did we not learn last year's lesson?
If it fails, we'll have to sell one of the gems - but if we sit here and accept it will fail, we'll end up selling one of the gems anyway!!
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Post by kilnerbanker on Jan 31, 2011 22:33:51 GMT 1
Blackpool have agreed terms with Southampton for forward/winger Jason Puncheon
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Post by brucie on Jan 31, 2011 22:35:33 GMT 1
You can't promise anything - correct But I can promise that if we don't sign a striker then we won't make the top 2. 1 in 4 chance after that. 75% staying down = Pilks gone? Smithies? Rhodes? etc Leeds took the "wrong" financial decision to keep Beckford last season, but it got them over the line. The cost benefit analysis of pushing the boat out to sign a striker or not is that one sided - did we not learn last year's lesson? If it fails, we'll have to sell one of the gems - but if we sit here and accept it will fail, we'll end up selling one of the gems anyway!! :appl:
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Post by runner76 on Jan 31, 2011 22:36:30 GMT 1
You can't promise anything - correct But I can promise that if we don't sign a striker then we won't make the top 2. 1 in 4 chance after that. 75% staying down = Pilks gone? Smithies? Rhodes? etc Leeds took the "wrong" financial decision to keep Beckford last season, but it got them over the line. The cost benefit analysis of pushing the boat out to sign a striker or not is that one sided - did we not learn last year's lesson? If it fails, we'll have to sell one of the gems - but if we sit here and accept it will fail, we'll end up selling one of the gems anyway!! I guess the general feeling earlier in the season would be that Lee might score.....well......at least a goal or two........
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Post by thegoodreverend on Jan 31, 2011 22:36:31 GMT 1
It's all a bit fooking quiet!
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Post by Billy 'ard Balls on Jan 31, 2011 22:36:57 GMT 1
i had hoped we would as a minimum get a sandwich. these hungry young players cannot delevop without it
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Post by andyfcuk85 on Jan 31, 2011 22:37:09 GMT 1
Joe Garner to Scunny on loan - dunno if its been mentioned
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Post by Admin on Jan 31, 2011 22:37:38 GMT 1
This threads been going a day, we've only signed a back up winger til the end of the season, our only source is Oggy, and yet it's the most viewed thread on DATM EVER COUGH Longest Thread /unCOUGH.....
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Post by Terrier9 on Jan 31, 2011 22:38:20 GMT 1
You can't promise anything - correct But I can promise that if we don't sign a striker then we won't make the top 2. 1 in 4 chance after that. 75% staying down = Pilks gone? Smithies? Rhodes? etc Leeds took the "wrong" financial decision to keep Beckford last season, but it got them over the line. The cost benefit analysis of pushing the boat out to sign a striker or not is that one sided - did we not learn last year's lesson? If it fails, we'll have to sell one of the gems - but if we sit here and accept it will fail, we'll end up selling one of the gems anyway!! :appl: x2
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Jan 31, 2011 22:38:57 GMT 1
You can't promise anything - correct But I can promise that if we don't sign a striker then we won't make the top 2. 1 in 4 chance after that. 75% staying down = Pilks gone? Smithies? Rhodes? etc Leeds took the "wrong" financial decision to keep Beckford last season, but it got them over the line. The cost benefit analysis of pushing the boat out to sign a striker or not is that one sided - did we not learn last year's lesson? If it fails, we'll have to sell one of the gems - but if we sit here and accept it will fail, we'll end up selling one of the gems anyway!! Is it your money owd pal? No so do one ... Who do we think we are Dean Hoyle has saved the club and bent over backwards .... Ps kilbane wages minimal? Do me a favour he turned down itfc .... And do u think it's a piece of piss to sign players ? Obvious that today deano is trying to spend even more of his personal fortune to please you....but teams ain't just gonna roll over and give us their best assets ..... We have signed player after player and moaned and moaned .... If I was Dean Hoyle I'd pack it in to be honest
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Post by townhopper on Jan 31, 2011 22:40:30 GMT 1
This is driving me fucking nuts, Cant someone at the club just put a message on here if we not gonna sign anyone FFS, The sky website is shite aswell hasnt even updated that cads has resigned,
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Post by ritchie on Jan 31, 2011 22:42:41 GMT 1
You can't promise anything - correct But I can promise that if we don't sign a striker then we won't make the top 2. 1 in 4 chance after that. 75% staying down = Pilks gone? Smithies? Rhodes? etc Leeds took the "wrong" financial decision to keep Beckford last season, but it got them over the line. The cost benefit analysis of pushing the boat out to sign a striker or not is that one sided - did we not learn last year's lesson? If it fails, we'll have to sell one of the gems - but if we sit here and accept it will fail, we'll end up selling one of the gems anyway!! Is it your money owd pal? No so do one ... Who do we think we are Dean Hoyle has saved the club and bent over backwards .... Ps kilbane wages minimal? Do me a favour he turned down itfc .... And do u think it's a piece of piss to sign players ? Obvious that today deano is trying to spend even more of his personal fortune to please you....but teams ain't just gonna roll over and give us their best assets ..... We have signed player after player and moaned and moaned .... If I was Dean Hoyle I'd pack it in to be honest if dean hoyle doesnt want to invest anymore money, then fair enough, but we got rid of a good striker in theo and received a fee for him. so that fee HAS to be re invested if we have any ambitions of going up. would be an absolutely shocking error of judgement not to get a striker in and would probably make much of deans investment so far go to waste.
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Post by keepmoving on Jan 31, 2011 22:43:16 GMT 1
i turned ssn off after about 2 minutes. that bloke with the touchscreen is really annoying, and the constant crap about liverpool was beginning to get on my tits.
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Post by Chicken George on Jan 31, 2011 22:45:52 GMT 1
its not quite that simple getting someone in... dunno why everyones getting so worked up. go to bed, put radio leeds on for sports update and find out if we have or not...
Im sure its not for the want of trying if we dont, but you dont always get what you want in the transfer window
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Post by terrier40 on Jan 31, 2011 22:45:58 GMT 1
This is driving me fucking nuts, Cant someone at the club just put a message on here if we not gonna sign anyone FFS, The sky website is shite aswell hasnt even updated that cads has resigned, that's coz the SSN transfer updater, is a Gooner fan who is still dying from embarrasment for cheating us yesterday.
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Post by runner76 on Jan 31, 2011 22:46:07 GMT 1
do we know of any serious bids or attempts to take any of our lads?
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Post by netterriers4 on Jan 31, 2011 22:47:55 GMT 1
Is it your money owd pal? No so do one ... Who do we think we are Dean Hoyle has saved the club and bent over backwards .... Ps kilbane wages minimal? Do me a favour he turned down itfc .... And do u think it's a piece of piss to sign players ? Obvious that today deano is trying to spend even more of his personal fortune to please you....but teams ain't just gonna roll over and give us their best assets ..... We have signed player after player and moaned and moaned .... If I was Dean Hoyle I'd pack it in to be honest if dean hoyle doesnt want to invest anymore money, then fair enough, but we got rid of a good striker in theo and received a fee for him. so that fee HAS to be re invested if we have any ambitions of going up. would be an absolutely shocking error of judgement not to get a striker in and would probably make much of deans investment so far go to waste. Trouble is, it takes two to tango and if we have two or even three targets how do we know the owning clubs will sell? If they dont want to, then they dont have to. Same as if the rumour I heard about the offer made from Pilks was true...DH turned it down. Does that make the chairman of the bidding club tight? Or resigned to allowing his team to not meet the potential?
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Post by SaleTerrier on Jan 31, 2011 22:48:15 GMT 1
This is worse than the last 10 minutes of us trying to hold onto a win... It really can make or break our season.
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Post by Spunker on Jan 31, 2011 22:50:05 GMT 1
Just over an hour to go on permanent signings, I was expecting a loan or two. With Cads here permanent, I reckon that is all... Purely based on belief.
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Post by Spunker on Jan 31, 2011 22:50:53 GMT 1
This threads been going a day, we've only signed a back up winger til the end of the season, our only source is Oggy, and yet it's the most viewed thread on DATM EVER And 403 online... Wonder what that record is?
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Post by Walton-on-the-Hill Terrier on Jan 31, 2011 22:51:40 GMT 1
Que sera sera. Irrespective of there being any signings tonight or not, Dean Hoyle will receive no criticism from me.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2011 22:52:27 GMT 1
Man Utd top of PL and Rooney couldn't hit a barndoor with a banjo.
We're 3rd in this league and all this talk of us not having ambitions of going up if we don't go and break the bank for a new striker is fucking bollocks. We could sign no one and flux it up and then yes we could all come out of the woodwork and blame this moment and Dean not putting his hand in his pocket as the reason. Likewise we could go and splash the cash and still do naff all and somewhere it would be someone's fault and we'd probably blame Dean for been naive for spending over the odds on players who might not come good and move on as quick as they moved in (Simpson/Theo etc). We could sign no one and win the title and jump for joy. Or we could sign no one tonight but then dip in the loan market and pluck a scorcher of an upcoming star from the PL)(in the Kelly mould) who would help us push on and go up and we'd be hailing it a masterstroke!
We signed a striker in August who was proven at Championship level and who had already got his campaign off with some goals, who has come here and up until the day before the end of the window after had not scored for us. We spent a fair bit on him too. Hopefully he'll come good 'cos it's what we all want but it just shows.
Calm down, put the knives back in the drawer. Que sera, sera and all that shite.
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Post by Spunker on Jan 31, 2011 22:52:53 GMT 1
Hoyle has been on within the past 24 hours, I wish he'd lay a rumour or two to bed!
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Post by terrier40 on Jan 31, 2011 22:52:54 GMT 1
:appl: :appl: :appl:
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Post by popterriertastic on Jan 31, 2011 22:53:05 GMT 1
Twitter is telling me Kevin Philips is in talks with Town!
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Post by Chicken George on Jan 31, 2011 22:53:45 GMT 1
the twitter twats are saying the same to me too
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