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Post by mphd4terrier on Nov 8, 2011 14:41:10 GMT 1
What an absolute disgrace an organisation such as FIFA with absolutely no credibility in my eyes feel they can disrespect our national heroes by banning a poppy on the England shirts for the Spain game on saturday.
Sepp Blatter & the rest of them can go take a run & jump as far as I'm concerned.
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Post by Mastercracker on Nov 8, 2011 14:44:04 GMT 1
They shouldn't even has asked and just done it regardless. FIFA already has a massive image problem, them kicking off about it afterwards would have done them no favours at all.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2011 14:48:17 GMT 1
I say just wear the poppies anyway, what's the worst FIFA are gonna do? Nothing more than a pocket money fine, a price worth paying.
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Post by Sheps on Nov 8, 2011 15:14:24 GMT 1
Isn't the problem that we might play germany once in November, and we can't offend the poor Krauts.
Or did that come to me in a dream while I was eating turkish delight
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Post by dazbil76 on Nov 8, 2011 15:29:04 GMT 1
What they don't seem to realise is that remembrance sunday is to signify everyone who has died in conflicts, not just UK soliders and not just the World Wars, and the Popoy is it's symbol.
Hence the presence of all the different nations at the Remembrace Service.
What England fans should do is to make a huge Poppy from coloured cards in the stand as they do with flags etc.
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Post by Grandfather Berty of Cleck on Nov 8, 2011 15:48:59 GMT 1
I may be in the minority here,
but I can understand where FIFA are coming from.
If they let the British teams break the rules, other countries may want to wear symbolisms of their struggles against other countires etc.
Football is one way that encourages peace with other countries (in most cases).
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2011 15:55:52 GMT 1
I may be in the minority here, but I can understand where FIFA are coming from. If they let the British teams break the rules, other countries may want to wear symbolisms of their struggles against other countires etc. Football is one way that encourages peace with other countries (in most cases). I think France already have plans for a white flag on thier kit |
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Post by stevvy on Nov 8, 2011 16:00:51 GMT 1
If they let the British teams break the rules, other countries may want to wear symbolisms of their struggles against other countires etc. I'd disagree. They say you can't have anything which can be classed as a political, religious or commercial symbol on the shirts. Political? I don't think so personally. Religious? No. Commercial? Not in my opinion. For me it's none of those things, and it's quite simply nothing more than a way of showing respect to those who've fallen in battle. Like others have said, what's the worst FIFA are gonna do if we did wear it? They're hardly going to turn round and ban us from playing in tournaments or anything significant like that. |
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Post by 3Pipe on Nov 8, 2011 16:05:00 GMT 1
What about a white armband with a poppy on it ?
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Post by Grandfather Berty of Cleck on Nov 8, 2011 16:10:03 GMT 1
If they let the British teams break the rules, other countries may want to wear symbolisms of their struggles against other countires etc. I'd disagree. They say you can't have anything which can be classed as a political, religious or commercial symbol on the shirts. Political? I don't think so personally. Religious? No. Commercial? Not in my opinion. For me it's none of those things, and it's quite simply nothing more than a way of showing respect to those who've fallen in battle. Like others have said, what's the worst FIFA are gonna do if we did wear it? They're hardly going to turn round and ban us from playing in tournaments or anything significant like that. I agree that it is not political, religious or commercial. Maybe 'break the rules' was the wrong phrase to use. Although personally I can't see why anyone would be offended by us wearing poppies, I'm sure some countries would use the chance to wear something that other WOULD find offensive. |
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Post by Mastercracker on Nov 8, 2011 16:15:12 GMT 1
I may be in the minority here, but I can understand where FIFA are coming from. If they let the British teams break the rules, other countries may want to wear symbolisms of their struggles against other countires etc. Football is one way that encourages peace with other countries (in most cases). I think France already have plans for a white flag on thier kit :appl: :iconlol: |
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Post by champ on Nov 8, 2011 16:18:05 GMT 1
How many death threats do you think Sepp Twatter recieves a day....because it clearly isn't enough.
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Post by mphd4terrier on Nov 8, 2011 16:23:48 GMT 1
What happens when a member of the royal family dies or Prime minister... Would a black armband be disallowed??
I totally agree that the Poppy represents many nations other than ours, spanning the entire globe.
I'd feel sooo proud if the F.A totally ignored Fifa on this and went ahead with it anyway.
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Post by gaz7837 on Nov 8, 2011 16:52:22 GMT 1
Expect nothing else from FIFA to be honest, They keep proving to be an incompetent organisation over and over again.
I say the hell with it and wear it anyway! Or as someone else mentioned earlier, wear a white armband with a poppy on it, Have them signed and Auction them off for Help for Heroes afterwards.
FIFA can go fuck themselves.
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Post by Amigo on Nov 8, 2011 16:55:34 GMT 1
I can see Berty's point here because it could escalate, however, it's not a nationalist thing and if I was the F.A. I'd do it regardless, wouldn't have even asked in the first place. FIFA will just hand out a petty fine (looking at the fines they hand out for racism I'd expect a bill of £3.50 for this). Not a chance the F.A. will do it regardless though.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2011 17:00:29 GMT 1
I can see Berty's point here because it could escalate, however, it's not a nationalist thing and if I was the F.A. I'd do it regardless, wouldn't have even asked in the first place. FIFA will just hand out a petty fine (looking at the fines they hand out for racism I'd expect a bill of £3.50 for this). Not a chance the F.A. will do it regardless though. Minutes silence before relevant matches. Observe that and i don't have a problem. |
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Post by wildbillthetownfan on Nov 8, 2011 17:24:21 GMT 1
If you cant pay your respect for the 100 million people that were killed in both world wars, then its a sad day. Blatter is a prat of the highest order and his Little Switzerland were neautral in the war, so the man doesn't have a clue.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2011 17:37:08 GMT 1
I find it ironic that Blatter is acting like Hitler
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2011 18:10:26 GMT 1
And FIFA have confirmed that they're not budging on the ban. If they wore poppies then the referee could stop the players from going onto the pitch.
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Post by gaz7837 on Nov 8, 2011 18:13:25 GMT 1
And FIFA have confirmed that they're not budging on the ban. If they wore poppies then the referee could stop the players from going onto the pitch. Then so be it, it's only a friendly we are going to get bummed in anyway! |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2011 18:15:43 GMT 1
And FIFA have confirmed that they're not budging on the ban. If they wore poppies then the referee could stop the players from going onto the pitch. Then so be it, it's only a friendly we are going to get bummed in anyway! I completely agree. How bad would the punishment be anyway? All they ever dish out for racist chanting is 5,000 Euros so it's hardly going to be worse than that. |
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Post by stevvy on Nov 8, 2011 18:18:16 GMT 1
The daft thing is they can wear poppies on their training tops when standing for the national anthems. So if they can go on the pitch and wear something with a poppy on then, knowing it'll be shown all over the world, why can't they wear them on the shirts too? It's a load of absolute bullsh*t. I'd tell them to wear them anyway. If the referee says they can't go on the pitch wearing shirts with a poppy embroidered on, then just say "fair enough, we're making a stand, we'll not play the game". Given UEFA and FIFA's embarassingly pathetic fines they've given to countries FA's for racism, what's the worst they're going to do to us for refusing to play a friendly game because of a poppy? Fine us £7.43? I'd tell FIFA to go f*ck themselves.
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Post by popterriertastic on Nov 8, 2011 18:20:20 GMT 1
I'm all for giving FIFA the two's up. They have politicised football to such an extent it makes the game pathetic
Blatter and organisations like FIFA are symbolic of what's gone wrong in the world. Ken bates has it right with his idea of leaving FIFA with select other counties and leave them too it. What would FIFA be without England, Germany, Holland, Spain, Argentina and brazil?a collection of nothing important....
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Post by townfan111 on Nov 8, 2011 18:34:43 GMT 1
I'm all for giving FIFA the two's up. They have politicised football to such an extent it makes the game pathetic Blatter and organisations like FIFA are symbolic of what's gone wrong in the world. Ken bates has it right with his idea of leaving FIFA with select other countries and leave them too it. What would FIFA be without England, Germany, Holland, Spain, Argentina and brazil?a collection of nothing important.... agree!! :appl: :appl: I'd bring the Italians along for the ride too! |
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Post by stevvy on Nov 8, 2011 18:36:05 GMT 1
What's just as ridiculous is that FIFA are basically saying they're allowing us to have a minutes silence before the game on Saturday. Well thanks FIFA for allowing them to show their respect with a minutes silence. Very kind of you. I'd have expected England to do a minutes silence regardless of whether FIFA would've allowed it or not.
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Post by townfan111 on Nov 8, 2011 18:36:12 GMT 1
and erm Qatar!! :violent:
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2011 19:48:36 GMT 1
LINKSorry - I don't often swear - but FUCK 'EM! Go ahead and wear shirts with PRIDE. What will FIFA do? Kick us out? Go ahead - suits me! What's more important? Keeping Mr Blatter happy or honouring the War dead? :ranting:
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Post by 3Pipe on Nov 8, 2011 19:50:29 GMT 1
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Post by BradfordTerrier on Nov 8, 2011 19:52:30 GMT 1
'Jeapordising the neutrality of football'.
What the fuck are they on about! I'd love the FA to grow a backbone and just say 'fuck em' and put the poppies on anyway.
So, no poppies then!!
:red: :respect: :ranting:
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2011 19:53:15 GMT 1
Sorry - hadn't noticed the other thread. BUT - and it's a big butt (*snigger*) - the link I posted was a NEW one as it was only posted at 6:23pm tonight, so it points out the fact that our appeal has been turned down.  |
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