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Post by OperationPig on Dec 18, 2011 11:39:09 GMT 1
First of all what a game!, excellent for both supporters and in front of a decent crowd before xmas, fair play to both for that. :appl:
First 20 minutes was just awful for us, we just didn't come out of the traps with any clue, Gary Roberts was doing my head in too, the way he kept getting in crosses, the warning signs was there before you scored tbf, but when you did I was fuming as we were playing so shite, when you went 2 up must admit I feared the worst, however we started to ask questions and thankfully got one back, and from 2-1 down it was a mixture of all the confidence draining from your side and growing in ours, from that moment it was all Wednesday until your late breakaway goals, when we got it back to 2-2 we were on fire could of been much more.
Second half we seemed very comfortable with you, for large periods of the game you were very quiet on and off, obviously we took the lead and then made it 4-2 but looked like we had it in the bag, cue the mass exodus from the away end, (why do fans do that?)
When you got your 3rd it was edgy stuff, but still we seemed okay but the quick pace nailed us for the 97 min equalizer, it was a bitter pill to swallow that because god only knows why the ref gave 7 mins of added time, i didn't even know how much was added on because it didn't go up on the board.
My view of you is Jorden Rhodes is an outstanding player, wethe r he goes in January or not he will soon be playing in the Premiership, yesterday must of been the day when everyone noticed Rhodes (top flight scouts), without him and I don't mean to be disrespectful you would have got mullered by us, everything was aimed at him for you (rightly so too) the other parts of your team didn't impress me that much (except for Gary Roberts early on) You did do some nice slick passes and the pace you had on the break was dangerous.
So after that nothing changed really, we still stay 4 points ahead (would of taken it tbh) Charlton didn't capitalized by the top two playing, Biggest winners was Sheff Utd, biggest losers surprisingly was MK Dons.
Just wish we would of had Madine and Buxton for yesterday.
The roller coaster continues..
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Post by stevvy on Dec 18, 2011 11:46:32 GMT 1
Just a short response to your comment about the time not going up on the board. It did, I saw it, it was straight after you made a change practically dead on the 90minute mark, and it definitely said 5 minutes.
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Post by jim100 on Dec 18, 2011 11:49:52 GMT 1
There was 7 mintues of injury time due to your lads timewasting. There as at least 40 seconds when Morrison wouldnt give the ball back
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Post by OperationPig on Dec 18, 2011 11:50:39 GMT 1
Just a short response to your comment about the time not going up on the board. It did, I saw it, it was straight after you made a change practically dead on the 90minute mark, and it definitely said 5 minutes. I'll hold my hand up then but it usually gets announced too. Not going to harp on about the time though, yeah it was hard to take with the last kick of the game, but next week it might be us that benefits but the ref was a proper cock for both team imvho. Best game I've been to for a long time though, beats a bore 0-0. |
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Post by Hammy (still in Golcar) on Dec 18, 2011 11:51:47 GMT 1
Fair points made.
Our defence yesterday was poor and if it weren't for the individual errors again of simply not clearing the ball I think we would have won comfortably.
I think the ref had a poor game and for long periods didn't seem to give us anything, I'm sure Rhodes got brought down after about 20 mins for what should have been a penalty.
4 th official raised 5 min injury time.
This is a minimum of 5 mins, and any other time wasting or stoppage of play goes ontop of the time stated. Hence 7/8 mins.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2011 11:55:31 GMT 1
some weds fans on here are posting some good reasonable/fair posts :appl: keep it up,its how us footy fan should carry on between ourselves :appl: just a little niggle from me.big club,big gate,but the announcer only mention weds fourth  he had a shocker op.the ref too was poor(for both of us).seriously hope that weds and us go up together.its great having big local teams around us |
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Post by jimmynich on Dec 18, 2011 19:36:28 GMT 1
Fair summary although I wouldnt be too harsh on the ref pig---as earlier poster said timewasting continued during the added time. Prior to that he didnt protect our flair players from Megson's predictable "style" of bullying. Your crowd had been really noisy but as soon as our 3rd went in the tension from your crowd transmitted to the players who seemed to bottle it.
Your power play battered us from 20-75 mins and despite the ref Town should have stood up bigger and be counted but boy when we played did we play. Wednesday home record is excellent so to take the game to them & bounce back scoring 4 away is a credit to Town. UTT
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Post by BLUE&WHITE on Dec 18, 2011 19:52:06 GMT 1
i would like to ask operation pig a serious question...
What is your opinion of the following?...
1) our defence / individual defenders
2) our pace
3) our top 3 players (youve already said roberts and rhodes so one more)
4) our worst player & why
5) our tactics?
the only reason i ask this is because we have a lot of fans questioning things that i wanted an unbiased opinion of to see if it is just our blinkers or not.
cheers
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Post by OperationPig on Dec 18, 2011 21:33:49 GMT 1
i would like to ask operation pig a serious question... What is your opinion of the following?... 1) our defence / individual defenders 2) our pace 3) our top 3 players (youve already said roberts and rhodes so one more) 4) our worst player & why 5) our tactics? the only reason i ask this is because we have a lot of fans questioning things that i wanted an unbiased opinion of to see if it is just our blinkers or not. cheers Okay, i'll give it a go but forgive me for not knowing all of your players names. 1, Your defence, honest opinion was poor imo, thought Naysmith was really poor, you just could not handle our height and we passed it through you on the floor at will at times too, the weird thing is when I saw your game against Charlton you looked more decent/ solid but maybe i was looking through my Wednesday glasses. 2, Your pace was scary at times, and imo it was this that cost us, our defence at times stood off you and thats where you hurt us, Roberts was brilliant in the first 20 odd minutes too. 3, Sorry can't think of one, them two just stick in my head. 4, Worst player, tbf a few but mainly the defenders they all seem nervous when we attacked, actually lol Miller glad he went from us to you, he was dire for you. 5, Tactics, was okay for first 20 minutes but I have to stay we came out looking like none of our players knew each other, don't know why maybe the big crowd, big match etc, but you saw the true Wednesday from when we got the first goal, from that moment your game plan stopped, we made tactical changes to stop that too by bringing Marshall more central with Lines. - good work by Megson it worked! Overall I think your a decent side in L1, you definitely need to sort the defence out though and I'd be worried if Rhodes does get tempted in January by the Premiership lights, just because Hoyle said he's going nowhere there is nowt worse then having a player playing for your club wanting to be elsewhere. Be good if we both went up imvho, i don't mind Huddersfield. |
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Post by pulsarowl on Dec 18, 2011 21:49:30 GMT 1
Your crowd had been really noisy but as soon as our 3rd went in the tension from your crowd transmitted to the players who seemed to bottle it. 100% spot on unfortunately. That has happened at Hillsborough far too much over the last few years. Part of that is expectancy and desperation that we can finally get out of this league and the Championship when we were there but the sooner some of the vociferous moaners accept that we are where we are,the same level as everyone else we play,then the sooner they may appreciate what we are trying to achieve. I have been to some incredible games since i began following the Owls in the late 70's including some 49,000+ crowds at Hillsborough but we have to be patient and let the players build their fragile confidence at times. Thankfully our current squad are made of sterner stuff and have far more character. Incidentally,i don't understand some of the Wednesdayites hatred towards LC,i always admired him when he was a cracking player at the Geordies and seems to have got you challenging consistently. What was the deal the other week with a rival manager when he refused to shake his hand btw? I thought his head was gonna explode lol |
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Post by OperationPig on Dec 18, 2011 21:59:14 GMT 1
Your crowd had been really noisy but as soon as our 3rd went in the tension from your crowd transmitted to the players who seemed to bottle it. 100% spot on unfortunately. That has happened at Hillsborough far too much over the last few years. Part of that is expectancy and desperation that we can finally get out of this league and the Championship when we were there but the sooner some of the vociferous moaners accept that we are where we are,the same level as everyone else we play,then the sooner they may appreciate what we are trying to achieve. I have been to some incredible games since i began following the Owls in the late 70's including some 49,000+ crowds at Hillsborough but we have to be patient and let the players build their fragile confidence at times. Thankfully our current squad are made of sterner stuff and have far more character. Incidentally,i don't understand some of the Wednesdayites hatred towards LC,i always admired him when he was a cracking player at the Geordies and seems to have got you challenging consistently. What was the deal the other week with a rival manager when he refused to shake his hand btw? I thought his head was gonna explode lol TBH I think LC is under pressure this year at Huddersfield, he has been there a good few years now, spent some money and okay last season you was unlucky, but pressure is on this year to go up, he even admitted it on TV that only second place is minimum. |
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Dec 18, 2011 22:04:42 GMT 1
Your obviously going to be in the shake up, as are we, Charlton... and I think Mk Dons, not sure about Sheff piggy united.
Tbh can see Wednesday steamrolling a few teams soon.... its obvious we are a decent side but the defence is costing us most games.....
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2011 22:05:22 GMT 1
Your crowd had been really noisy but as soon as our 3rd went in the tension from your crowd transmitted to the players who seemed to bottle it. 100% spot on unfortunately. That has happened at Hillsborough far too much over the last few years. Part of that is expectancy and desperation that we can finally get out of this league and the Championship when we were there but the sooner some of the vociferous moaners accept that we are where we are,the same level as everyone else we play,then the sooner they may appreciate what we are trying to achieve. I have been to some incredible games since i began following the Owls in the late 70's including some 49,000+ crowds at Hillsborough but we have to be patient and let the players build their fragile confidence at times. Thankfully our current squad are made of sterner stuff and have far more character. Incidentally,i don't understand some of the Wednesdayites hatred towards LC,i always admired him when he was a cracking player at the Geordies and seems to have got you challenging consistently. What was the deal the other week with a rival manager when he refused to shake his hand btw? I thought his head was gonna explode lol Take a look at Bournemouth HTFC World it's on the page before this you will see a link for the Stevenage report will give you some idea. |
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Post by Spunker on Dec 18, 2011 22:12:08 GMT 1
Quality thread.
Our defence, as a unit, is terrible. I thought Jack Hunt had his worst game on a Town shirt yesterday. Is he injured?
We really need a defender in January. The same names are thrown around, but what is Kadar doing? Anything?
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he had a shocker op.the ref too was poor(for both of us).seriously hope that weds and us go up together.its great having big local teams around us
