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Post by oldmanboothy on Jan 10, 2012 16:06:16 GMT 1
Technically it's not the shares that Dean was buying back for £3m it is repaying Davy's loan stock hence why Dean cannot come out and say it how we all would like!
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Post by Tez on Jan 10, 2012 16:06:58 GMT 1
I think the statement produced here by Deano is spot on and reveals enough information for us to know what's been going on.
KD is one shifty individual (if we didn't know already!). Boycott all stadium food/drinks etc. it's a good idea but I think some folk will still buy from it.
More patience and time needed and I hope we get a resolution soon.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2012 16:07:08 GMT 1
WE, THE FANS....now need to show support to our magnificent chairman about this issue now. the following would be useful... - Placards - banners - letters to the paper - deputations on council - petitions to the council (i work for KC so know, they have to be dealt with and investigated thoroughly then cabinet have to approve etc!) - signs - protests at KSDL meetings - protests outside the kiosks before / half time - protests at giants matches- contact local / national media - stop paying the rent and dare them to evict us! the more we do the more it will make a difference. DAVY OUT! I love this one, would be brilliant if we all turned up in town shirts with banners etc, plus it adds to their attendance so the egg chasers have to pay more in rent because isn't the rent based on £3 per head at a game?
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Post by Blueblood on Jan 10, 2012 16:10:41 GMT 1
Its time Mekon coughed up, till he does boycott the food and drink, hit the bastard where it hurts.
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Post by griffa on Jan 10, 2012 16:11:29 GMT 1
In Dean we trust he's only interested in HTAFC best interests - UTT - RTS Ken Davy looks more ridiculous day by day! Greedy bar steward!
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Post by 1876tom on Jan 10, 2012 16:11:35 GMT 1
Don`t go in the Ropewalk before or after a game. Go to the Canalside instead where all your monet goes to HTAFC. :beer:
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Post by Doc Halladay 32 on Jan 10, 2012 16:11:38 GMT 1
WE, THE FANS....now need to show support to our magnificent chairman about this issue now. the following would be useful... - Placards - banners - letters to the paper - deputations on council - petitions to the council (i work for KC so know, they have to be dealt with and investigated thoroughly then cabinet have to approve etc!) - signs - protests at KSDL meetings - protests outside the kiosks before / half time - protests at giants matches- contact local / national media - stop paying the rent and dare them to evict us! the more we do the more it will make a difference. DAVY OUT! I love this one, would be brilliant if we all turned up in town shirts with banners etc, plus it adds to their attendance so the egg chasers have to pay more in rent because isn't the rent based on £3 per head at a game? With the CURRENT 15/13 rental it'll work out a little more : :
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2012 16:12:02 GMT 1
Over to you Ken...
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Post by terrier4life on Jan 10, 2012 16:13:01 GMT 1
I certainly wont be attending any Giants match to put money in the old crones pocket, But I would make a donation towards buying a giants shirt that could be put on an effigy of him, then burnt outside of the giants offices on a superleague match day
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Post by exilepaul on Jan 10, 2012 16:14:49 GMT 1
Although Deano stops short of suggesting we should boycott vending outlets......he certainly hints to Davy that he knows the Achilles Heel of the KDSL setup!!!!
Not sure if protests & banners will resolve anything but (as I have done previously) it is fun to point out to people joining the queue for drinks & burgers, just where that money is going.
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Post by shawsie on Jan 10, 2012 16:20:36 GMT 1
I think the statement produced here by Deano is spot on and reveals enough information for us to know what's been going on. KD is one shifty individual (if we didn't know already!). Boycott all stadium food/drinks etc. it's a good idea but I think some folk will still buy from it.More patience and time needed and I hope we get a resolution soon. They probably will initially, but if we all adopt the approach of telling our friends/those who sit nearby not to, then there will over time be a big impact on sales, particularly given the disparity in crowds between HTFC and the Giants.
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Post by mids on Jan 10, 2012 16:22:09 GMT 1
WE, THE FANS....now need to show support to our magnificent chairman about this issue now. the following would be useful... - Placards - banners - letters to the paper - deputations on council - petitions to the council (i work for KC so know, they have to be dealt with and investigated thoroughly then cabinet have to approve etc!) - signs - protests at KSDL meetings - protests outside the kiosks before / half time - protests at giants matches - contact local / national media - stop paying the rent and dare them to evict us! the more we do the more it will make a difference. DAVY OUT! Kenocchio is now on his holidays. It would perhaps be apt, considering the statement has come out, to ask Ken by email ( k.davy@simplybiz.co.uk) to return Town's shares for the £2 you paidIf lots of people asked the same thing he might have to break away from enjoying himself. So don't all do it at once
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Post by horler1 on Jan 10, 2012 16:24:22 GMT 1
"Calderdale Council still probably wouldn't agree unless there was something in it for them and I'm not sure i can think of a site for a stadium that would be acceptable. Does Dean even have that sort of money available to him? I'm not too sure. I think the chances of us leaving the Galpharm are pretty slim. Whether we are legally bounded to stay in the stadium or not i do not know but i think it's pretty clear that we need to get those shares back if the club is going to survive in the long term. If we were to depart the stadium for a temporary period of time, say 2 or 3 seasons, would that be enough to ruin Uncle Ken? Even if we don't plan to go through with such extreme plans, I think the time has come for these threats to be made."
Dean Hoyle has around £140m. A new stadium would cost around £100m, I'm not sure it's achievable. Certainly we could agree a deal with Halifax/Sadford to play in their stadium but would we want to prop up bradford funds and what is the capacity of the shay?
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Post by mids on Jan 10, 2012 16:24:41 GMT 1
I think the statement produced here by Deano is spot on and reveals enough information for us to know what's been going on. KD is one shifty individual (if we didn't know already!). Boycott all stadium food/drinks etc. it's a good idea but I think some folk will still buy from it.More patience and time needed and I hope we get a resolution soon. They probably will initially, but if we all adopt the approach of telling our friends/those who sit nearby not to, then there will over time be a big impact on sales, particularly given the disparity in crowds between HTFC and the Giants. It's all down to word of mouth. The protest can grow and grow if we all do our bit. DATM is a small percentage of Town fans. But if each and every one told their mates, and their mates told their mates etc it would grow pretty quick.... especially with 2 successive home matches.
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Post by exilepaul on Jan 10, 2012 16:24:50 GMT 1
Or we could just boo any fan who emerge for the 2nd half with a pie in their hand!!!!!
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Post by ruud1boy on Jan 10, 2012 16:27:02 GMT 1
Kenocchio is now on his holidays. Do we know where he's gone? Time for Otium to put his globe-trotting to good use and make himself a hero!
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Post by mids on Jan 10, 2012 16:27:27 GMT 1
Kenocchio is now on his holidays. It would perhaps be apt, considering the statement has come out, to ask Ken by email ( k.davy@simplybiz.co.uk) to return Town's shares for the £2 you paidIf lots of people asked the same thing he might have to break away from enjoying himself. So don't all do it at once ....or put some placards outside his house, on his walls & gates at Paget Crescent, Birkby :ninja:
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Post by dugnet on Jan 10, 2012 16:31:42 GMT 1
I think this statement has made it very simple for everyone to understand (who didn't before) and I also think it calls for a very simple action - sit back and wait while making evryone aware how the fans of HTAFC feel.
There is definite merit is not using the catering facilities and making the general public and press aware of how Town fans feel but that is all we need to do.
Mr Davy still stands to make a substantial profit from his opportunist activity, and to be fair he was in a position to do so and took it with both hands. That doesn't make his actions morally acceptable or worthy of close scrutiny.
There is no point in abusing Mr Davy as he has shown himself as largely resilient to all attempts to blacken his name. You could also argue that nobody is actually needed to blacken his name as he does a perfectly good job by himself.
The Other party that need to take a long hard look at themselves are the Council and those members of the council who are in direct control of KSDL. They have an obligation to the public of Kirkless and not to Mr Davy. People will surely be entitled to ask why they apparently appear to support Mr Davy in what is clearly a matter for the community and they should be demonstrating their support for the views of their constituents.
I would recommend that all opportunities to make the feelings of Town fans to the local and wider press are taken and let the wider public understand what has happened here. It is that judgement that will ultimately decide this sorry and tawdry issue.
Mr Hoyle can stand with his head held high, he did not cause this situation and has made a generous attempt to resolve for the good of HTAFC and restore the original principles of what KSDL was set up to achieve. He may ultimately obtain a significant share of a major asset but there is no evidence in his tenure as owner of HTAFC that he has any other intentions other than for the good of the club and the community of Kirklees.
In my opinion Mr Davy and the Kirkless council members need to look at themeselves and determine if they are entirely happy with their conduct, as do the members of the local press who choose to sit firmly on the fence.
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Post by bigfatmonkey on Jan 10, 2012 16:33:19 GMT 1
Or we could just boo any fan who emerge for the 2nd half with a pie in their hand!!!!! How about a picket line in front of each snack bar before each game and at half-time, with hordes of people screaming scab, scab, scab at anyone who crosses it to make a purchase?
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Post by rocky on Jan 10, 2012 16:36:23 GMT 1
Mids / Bro (or anyone else who knows) - If Dean was happy for the arbitration process to decide ' the deadlock over the rent formula', & this stance was backed by the Council, why has Davy rejected it?
Dean says the rental issue is 'in financial terms immaterial ' & points out that he'd agreed to all the other Davy terms & conditions, so why on earth would Davy not use arbitration? My first thought was that 'he's something to hide', but surely this can't be, if he's got everything he wants?
By the way - I have my own IFA business & today we've been approached by Davy's firm SimplyBiz to provide Compliance services! Obviously, I wont be going near them with a barge pole!
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Post by oldmanboothy on Jan 10, 2012 16:37:50 GMT 1
As a side issue, as part of the original deal was making Uncle Ken life president... Is this no longer the case?
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Post by keepmoving on Jan 10, 2012 16:39:28 GMT 1
well I guess we all knew this was coming didn't we?
Problem is that most town fans (not all) are ignorant to what Mekon Davy has actually done. Fans are almost not bothered as they turn up with their kids, buy the little ones their cokes and crisps while they buy their beer and boothy mix.
Back down for more beer at half time - and maybe a pie (well they might look like pies but where the meat comes from?.........who knows?).
Well that money is going to Mekon. The people who buy pies and stuff are killing our football club by playing right into his hands.
Something needs to be done to stop the parasite once and for all.
Maybe something outside the grounds of the Galpharm where money goes to the club rather than KD. I dunno but there must be something that can be done.
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Post by Torquayterrier on Jan 10, 2012 16:41:59 GMT 1
Before we all start sharpening the pitchforks yet again can we just take stock of the facts once more as this seems to keep going round in circles of misinformation: £2 for the shares to be returned to HTFC agreed by Davy £3M for the loans made by Davy to the club to be repaid by Dean, agreed by Dean Rental formula was to stay the same, agreed last Feb Very late in the day Davy wants changes made to the rental formula which means HTFC out of pocket by just short of £25K each year. Not a vast amount compared to the total annual turnover of the club BUT this was a late change to an agreement that had been made in principle by both parties and then Davy turned down the offer of arbitration. My take on it all is it's not the money itself that's got under Dean's skin, it's the late backtracking on an agreed plan forward for the benefit of all. We are all losers in the current stalemate. Ken just needs to swallow his pride, accept the original plan put forward last Feb then just bugger off and count his money. If there are factual inaccuracies in this I'm happy to be put straight by those that have been involved in it in more detail (eg Mids).
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2012 16:42:05 GMT 1
Just sent him an e-mail
Mr Davy
How dare you call yourself the savior of Huddersfield Town when you are bleeding it dry and robbing our supporters and future supporters of any future benefits from the stadium.
The stadium was built to be owned 40% by HTAFC, 40% Kirklees and 20% by the Giants. That is how it was and that is how it should be again.
If you have any shred of decency or morality left then do the Honorable thing and give back the shares for the amount you paid, NO HIDDEN AGENDAS and maybe then you can restore some of the credibility in this town you used to have.
You are jeopardising the future of this club and Ironically you could be jeopardising the future of the stadium itself.
You are a rich man and you need not play with the future of our club through motives which can only be described as pure greed.
Do the right thing
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Post by sudbury on Jan 10, 2012 16:43:18 GMT 1
Did I read somewhere that Rotherham's new stadium is costing 20 million. Pity we can't get 80,000 people to give £200 each = 16 million, and some would give more. If we had our own stadium KSDL (Ken's Stadium Development) and the Council would be in the s---. I'd love to see them wallowing in that.
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Post by wezzahtfc on Jan 10, 2012 16:45:24 GMT 1
Would there be any chance of organizing some sort of protest in time for the Brentford game on Sky? If we could get a couple of banners up that would probably get the message across, or maybe do what the Blackburn fans have done and get t-shirts printed for it? 100% HTFC 0% Davy and KSDL probably works as a slogan...
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Post by keepmoving on Jan 10, 2012 16:46:05 GMT 1
"This arbitration process was agreed to by Huddersfield Town and supported by Kirklees Council, but was rejected by Ken Davy. Then inevitably with the passing of the KSDL deadline, after the "final attempt" had failed, the agreement of February 2010 immediately fell away.
"All the parties knew the consequences and implications of a failure to reach agreement at the "final attempt".
I bet they did........
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2012 16:48:55 GMT 1
To the tune of YMCA
KSDL It aint fun to stay at the KSDL Don't buy anything cos our rent is a joke And Uncle Ken is a fucking wannkkerrr
Not that I would ever sing it or expect anybody else to but the words are pretty apt dont ya think!
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Post by realmadkid on Jan 10, 2012 16:52:26 GMT 1
I think he is probably impervious to any form of outrage at his behaviour or pleas to his better nature (does he have one?).
His actions to date mark him out as a clinical psychopath in my view. That doesn't mean he is an axe murderer as the popular definition of psychopath seems to have become, just simply that he has no empathy for the feelings of others or remorse for any of his actions and is able to self-justify them as reasonable.
I actually met him as part of a business deal about 16/17 years ago and my view even at that time after sitting across a desk from him for an hour or so was exactly the same.
The only limiting factor for psychopathic traits is the fear of being caught red handed. Maybe his time is coming?
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Post by Amigo on Jan 10, 2012 16:52:27 GMT 1
Pie in the sky I know and hypothetical as much as anything but does anyone actually have a rough idea of how much it would cost to build a new stadium?
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