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Post by dazb69 on Feb 3, 2013 8:36:14 GMT 1
Dean must love the fact not only does he get to sit in the directors box each game, he also gets 8m in his bank... Easy money As the club lost £5.7 million last season, selling Rhodes was surely to balance the books, so that leaves £2.3 million budget, how much of this has already been used in transfers / wages / loans. DH, NC are running a steady ship and don't want to let the club get back into the state it was in, in our previous Championship venture under a certain BR. IMO we'll survive this season and then DH will give the new manager (Hopefully Adkins) a "warchest" to go for it next season! And also, if Dean has taken some of his cash back, who can blame him, he's not a bottomless pit just here to throw ALL his money at it. The club along with all it's facilities (which has had a great deal spent on) is in a much stronger position and the future looks brighter than it has for a Long long time!!! In Dean we trust!!!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2013 9:46:44 GMT 1
E4 what's your point ? We might not get 15 points we might go down... The way other teams are picking up points 15 might not be enough ... But having seen us on Wednesday I think we will be ok... If we go down then mistakes will have been made... But when hoyle took over from ken we looked more likely to get into leaguE 2 than the championship... Time and again he has put his money in his pocket ..and what do town fans do ? Moan that, for example he is fleecing the club by not spending the 8m we got for Rhodes.. ..god give me strength ... Even if we go down dean hoyle should be given the freedom of the town.... A modern day hero and legend .... What do people want ? Ken back ? Shady Malaysian wheeler dealers ? Ffs we are huddersfield town... We have no divine right to anything..not on 12k home gates.. If you had told me when dean took over that in feb 2013 we would be in bottom half of championship, in the hat for 5th round of FA cup, had seen players of the quality of Rhodes and pilks, and spent millions sorting out the training facilities and youth structures, thus enhancing the chances of a more prosperous long term future I'd have bitten your hand off ..... So in short, stop whining When Deano took over did you even know who these two players were had you ever even heard of them, If so i suggest you go be a scout for a living.
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Feb 3, 2013 10:25:17 GMT 1
Dean must love the fact not only does he get to sit in the directors box each game, he also gets 8m in his bank... Easy money As the club lost £5.7 million last season, selling Rhodes was surely to balance the books, so that leaves £2.3 million budget, how much of this has already been used in transfers / wages / loans. DH, NC are running a steady ship and don't want to let the club get back into the state it was in, in our previous Championship venture under a certain BR. IMO we'll survive this season and then DH will give the new manager (Hopefully Adkins) a "warchest" to go for it next season! And also, if Dean has taken some of his cash back, who can blame him, he's not a bottomless pit just here to throw ALL his money at it. The club along with all it's facilities (which has had a great deal spent on) is in a much stronger position and the future looks brighter than it has for a Long long time!!! In Dean we trust!!! I was being sarcastic
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Feb 3, 2013 10:28:32 GMT 1
E4 what's your point ? We might not get 15 points we might go down... The way other teams are picking up points 15 might not be enough ... But having seen us on Wednesday I think we will be ok... If we go down then mistakes will have been made... But when hoyle took over from ken we looked more likely to get into leaguE 2 than the championship... Time and again he has put his money in his pocket ..and what do town fans do ? Moan that, for example he is fleecing the club by not spending the 8m we got for Rhodes.. ..god give me strength ... Even if we go down dean hoyle should be given the freedom of the town.... A modern day hero and legend .... What do people want ? Ken back ? Shady Malaysian wheeler dealers ? Ffs we are huddersfield town... We have no divine right to anything..not on 12k home gates.. If you had told me when dean took over that in feb 2013 we would be in bottom half of championship, in the hat for 5th round of FA cup, had seen players of the quality of Rhodes and pilks, and spent millions sorting out the training facilities and youth structures, thus enhancing the chances of a more prosperous long term future I'd have bitten your hand off ..... So in short, stop whining When Deano took over did you even know who these two players were had you ever even heard of them, If so i suggest you go be a scout for a living. Both Rhodes and pilks were pretty well known when they came to us. And the wages we were paying them were pretty high for league one, certainly at levels which wouldn't have been entertained by hoyles predesessor. I should imagine most league one clubs, and some championship clubs, would have been in for pilks and Rhodes
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2013 10:33:14 GMT 1
When Deano took over did you even know who these two players were had you ever even heard of them, If so i suggest you go be a scout for a living. Both Rhodes and pilks were pretty well known when they came to us. And the wages we were paying them were pretty high for league one, certainly at levels which wouldn't have been entertained by hoyles predesessor. I should imagine most league one clubs, and some championship clubs, would have been in for pilks and Rhodes Pilks maywell have been heard of as he was playing at the level below, However Rhodes was only in the reserves, And although he maywell have been courted by clubs not many fans in the stands will have heard of him other than those at Ipswich.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2013 10:35:12 GMT 1
Can't believe there is any critisism of Dean Hoyle on here!!! Incredible! What a load of nobbers!! Dean has done an incredible amount for this club, but has also made mistakes. He is just as open to criticism as anyone is, even he will tell you that, which is part of what makes him the superb person he is.
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Post by dazb69 on Feb 3, 2013 10:38:53 GMT 1
As the club lost £5.7 million last season, selling Rhodes was surely to balance the books, so that leaves £2.3 million budget, how much of this has already been used in transfers / wages / loans. DH, NC are running a steady ship and don't want to let the club get back into the state it was in, in our previous Championship venture under a certain BR. IMO we'll survive this season and then DH will give the new manager (Hopefully Adkins) a "warchest" to go for it next season! And also, if Dean has taken some of his cash back, who can blame him, he's not a bottomless pit just here to throw ALL his money at it. The club along with all it's facilities (which has had a great deal spent on) is in a much stronger position and the future looks brighter than it has for a Long long time!!! In Dean we trust!!! I was being sarcastic Sorry mate, there's so many on here now having a go at DH and the board, RE spending some money, it's hard to know who's "for real" It ****es me off that so many don't appreciate what DH has actually done for this club and the progress we've made and think that he should continue throwing away his gains to better us!!! As I've said before, If we hadn't made the start we had to the season, expectation wouldn't be as "sky high" After all most of us thought we'd be in for a relegation scrap, all season not just now, when the season kicked off!!! Dean will see us right.......in the end : :
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Feb 3, 2013 10:50:30 GMT 1
Both Rhodes and pilks were pretty well known when they came to us. And the wages we were paying them were pretty high for league one, certainly at levels which wouldn't have been entertained by hoyles predesessor. I should imagine most league one clubs, and some championship clubs, would have been in for pilks and Rhodes Pilks maywell have been heard of as he was playing at the level below, However Rhodes was only in the reserves, And although he maywell have been courted by clubs not many fans in the stands will have heard of him other than those at Ipswich. Both Rhodes and pilks were pretty well known when they came to us. And the wages we were paying them were pretty high for league one, certainly at levels which wouldn't have been entertained by hoyles predesessor. I should imagine most league one clubs, and some championship clubs, would have been in for pilks and Rhodes Pilks maywell have been heard of as he was playing at the level below, However Rhodes was only in the reserves, And although he maywell have been courted by clubs not many fans in the stands will have heard of him other than those at Ipswich. I don't quite know what your point is... I said "players of the quality of Rhodes and pilks" we obviously didn't know when dean took over that they were both international players. But to say Rhodes wasn't on anyone's radar is a bit weird... He had been banging in goals for fun for brentford, and Ipswich fans turned on keane straight away for selling him . We paid a pretty high (for league one ) transfer fee and pretty high (for league one) wages. But if you want to nitpick stuff I say as a deflection tactic for the fact you were wrong about what Lillis said on radio leeds then go for it
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2013 10:57:08 GMT 1
Sorry mate, there's so many on here now having a go at DH and the board, RE spending some money, it's hard to know who's "for real" It ****es me off that so many don't appreciate what DH has actually done for this club and the progress we've made and think that he should continue throwing away his gains to better us!!! As I've said before, If we hadn't made the start we had to the season, expectation wouldn't be as "sky high" After all most of us thought we'd be in for a relegation scrap, all season not just now, when the season kicked off!!! Dean will see us right.......in the end [/quote Sorry, But your wrong, Yes Deano has done great with Town, Town has also been great for dean, In his ego/status and profile, He is not a saint nor should he be followed like a saint. I said at the start of the season i would be happy with fourth from bottom, But the performances of the last couple of months are leading yus one way and that is down. I agree with the SG sacking as things were awfull, However the lack of investment is worrying & the timing of the sacking is suspicious, There is no passion from the squad & these issues need to be tackled by a man manager, I would also question Wilson's role as i have on previous threads and the influence on Dean. The lack of investment / upkeep in Town is going to cost us.
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Feb 3, 2013 10:58:24 GMT 1
I think Deano has let larry do what he wanted and enough was enough so now we must do it with what we have got.
On the JR topic, nice to see him single handedly destroy the other team grabbing 2 more goals and his 100th.....
well done lad,
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Post by netterriers4 on Feb 3, 2013 11:00:16 GMT 1
Sorry ohyes, relegation won't cost us - it will cost him.
If DH wanted publicity to feed his ego he could have done it in many other ways with his cash none of which would result in some of the crap being thrown his way at the moment.
I agree about Wilson BTW. Apart from one or two bloggers who get all dizzy cos he replies to their tweets I still haven't seen any evidence of a positive change he has driven for our club.
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Feb 3, 2013 11:07:36 GMT 1
Ohyes... Lack of investment ? Clayton, Norwood, beckford, Vaughan, danns, southern, Gerrard, Dixon, church, .... There is an argument for saying that hoyle should have gambled (his money) to make further purchases in the January transfer window. But the players above, on top of most of the 20 plus players clarkie brought in, would never have come to the club under Davy ... Yet our crowds aren't much higher now than they were then ..... Where do you think the money is coming from ? Increased revenues from bobble hats ? ... To say there has been a lack of investment is a staggering thing to say
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Post by amoeba on Feb 3, 2013 11:20:25 GMT 1
Ohyes... Lack of investment ? Clayton, Norwood, beckford, Vaughan, danns, southern, Gerrard, Dixon, church, .... There is an argument for saying that hoyle should have gambled (his money) to make further purchases in the January transfer window. But the players above, on top of most of the 20 plus players clarkie brought in, would never have come to the club under Davy ... Yet our crowds aren't much higher now than they were then ..... Where do you think the money is coming from ? Increased revenues from bobble hats ? ... To say there has been a lack of investment is a staggering thing to say I knew I was helping out when I bought that daft hat ;D
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Feb 3, 2013 11:27:00 GMT 1
Ohyes... Lack of investment ? Clayton, Norwood, beckford, Vaughan, danns, southern, Gerrard, Dixon, church, .... There is an argument for saying that hoyle should have gambled (his money) to make further purchases in the January transfer window. But the players above, on top of most of the 20 plus players clarkie brought in, would never have come to the club under Davy ... Yet our crowds aren't much higher now than they were then ..... Where do you think the money is coming from ? Increased revenues from bobble hats ? ... To say there has been a lack of investment is a staggering thing to say I knew I was helping out when I bought that daft hat ;D Your investment in Keith southerns left toenail is much appreciated
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Post by Headless Chicken on Feb 3, 2013 11:33:32 GMT 1
E4 what's your point ? We might not get 15 points we might go down... The way other teams are picking up points 15 might not be enough ... But having seen us on Wednesday I think we will be ok... If we go down then mistakes will have been made... But when hoyle took over from ken we looked more likely to get into leaguE 2 than the championship... Time and again he has put his money in his pocket ..and what do town fans do ? Moan that, for example he is fleecing the club by not spending the 8m we got for Rhodes.. ..god give me strength ... Even if we go down dean hoyle should be given the freedom of the town.... A modern day hero and legend .... What do people want ? Ken back ? Shady Malaysian wheeler dealers ? Ffs we are huddersfield town... We have no divine right to anything..not on 12k home gates.. If you had told me when dean took over that in feb 2013 we would be in bottom half of championship, in the hat for 5th round of FA cup, had seen players of the quality of Rhodes and pilks, and spent millions sorting out the training facilities and youth structures, thus enhancing the chances of a more prosperous long term future I'd have bitten your hand off ..... So in short, stop whining Everyone is aware of what a real fan Deano is and I am sure a lot of us would love to have earned a fortune like his to be able to do the same. This does not mean that I have to agree with everything he does. I would not jump of a bridge for him. As you are fully aware I am disappointed with the lack of ambition shown. If I would have his fortune you would be watching a far superior Huddersfield Town team,believe me! There's a tone as if DH is lucky to have his wealth, rather than he created it through hard work, speculation and excellent judgement. When I grow up I want to be an astronaut.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2013 11:52:32 GMT 1
Ohyes... Lack of investment ? Clayton, Norwood, beckford, Vaughan, danns, southern, Gerrard, Dixon, church, .... There is an argument for saying that hoyle should have gambled (his money) to make further purchases in the January transfer window. But the players above, on top of most of the 20 plus players clarkie brought in, would never have come to the club under Davy ... Yet our crowds aren't much higher now than they were then ..... Where do you think the money is coming from ? Increased revenues from bobble hats ? ... To say there has been a lack of investment is a staggering thing to say So you have taken something i wrote from another thread and added it to this, Every fan that invests in season tickets sales, away matches, shirts, B&W foundation membership and other merchandise is indeed investing in the club FACT, The fact that the gates are 12k is not our fault we are a small club, Some clubs survive on much smaller crowds, And if you want to read what i have said correctly without been a knob, I have said previously that deano has invested and backed the club, However he has failed to do it now at a time when we need it the most and the injuries to players yest just strengthened that fact more. You have stated the 20 plus that Clarkie brought in, The fact is we have a small squad now capable of competing at this level, the rest are Shite, And it doesn't matter how much you polish a turd, at the end of the day it is still a turd. It was Dean's decision to become Chairman of Town and as such it is Deans position to continue to run and fund the club, He is not a saint for running a business. The man can have the plaudits when things are going well, But also needs to take it on board when things aren't, Two many brown nosers on here you included.
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Post by amoeba on Feb 3, 2013 11:55:14 GMT 1
I knew I was helping out when I bought that daft hat ;D Your investment in Keith southerns left toenail is much appreciated I'm paying 1/1000th of his physio I'll have yer know and that gives me licence to spout bollocks all day long.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2013 12:01:44 GMT 1
Your investment in Keith southerns left toenail is much appreciated I'm paying 1/1000th of his physio I'll have yer know and that gives me licence to spout ******** all day long. f you are going to make a statement like that, Then please explain how any of what i have said is incorrect. 1,Every fan who attends matches etc is helping to fund the club 2, No one asked dean to become chairman 3,Investment was required in Jan & a manager should have been sounded out prior to the sacking to ensure suitable players were brought in 4, Loanee players are not fully committed to the club because they can always return to there parent club How is any of that incorrect.
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Post by dazb69 on Feb 3, 2013 12:09:25 GMT 1
2. Dean came forward in Town's hour of need and as a "wealthy" fan decided to help out 3, How do you know that a new manager hasn't been sounded out, but is still on holiday and the contract just requires finalising? 4, Loanee players have helped Leicester, who are always there or there abouts at the top end of the Championship. And Watford are hardly struggling this season with their loanees, are they? The correct loans can work for ANY club!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2013 12:12:14 GMT 1
Ohyes... Lack of investment ? Clayton, Norwood, beckford, Vaughan, danns, southern, Gerrard, Dixon, church, .... There is an argument for saying that hoyle should have gambled (his money) to make further purchases in the January transfer window. But the players above, on top of most of the 20 plus players clarkie brought in, would never have come to the club under Davy ... Yet our crowds aren't much higher now than they were then ..... Where do you think the money is coming from ? Increased revenues from bobble hats ? ... To say there has been a lack of investment is a staggering thing to say So you have taken something i wrote from another thread and added it to this, Every fan that invests in season tickets sales, away matches, shirts, B&W foundation membership and other merchandise is indeed investing in the club FACT, The fact that the gates are 12k is not our fault we are a small club, Some clubs survive on much smaller crowds, And if you want to read what i have said correctly without been a knob, I have said previously that deano has invested and backed the club, However he has failed to do it now at a time when we need it the most and the injuries to players yest just strengthened that fact more. You have stated the 20 plus that Clarkie brought in, The fact is we have a small squad now capable of competing at this level, the rest are Shite, And it doesn't matter how much you polish a turd, at the end of the day it is still a turd. It was Dean's decision to become Chairman of Town and as such it is Deans position to continue to run and fund the club, He is not a saint for running a business. The man can have the plaudits when things are going well, But also needs to take it on board when things aren't, Two many brown nosers on here you included. Well said that man
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2013 12:18:12 GMT 1
2. Dean came forward in Town's hour of need and as a "wealthy" fan decided to help out 3, How do you know that a new manager hasn't been sounded out, but is still on holiday and the contract just requires finalising? 4, Loanee players have helped Leicester, who are always there or there abouts at the top end of the Championship. The correct loans can work for ANY club! Deano stepped in to help out, Dear me is that really what people think, Deano stepped in to buy the club he is a fan of because he could afford it, He is running it as a business to ultimatley make money he is not running it to spend away all his money he isn't a mug. As i have said before Business man first Fan second. If the new manager has been sounded out then this is bad timing by the club if you are hinting at Adkins, This should have been done after Ten games not 13 which would have allowed the investment to bring new players in. and the said manager could have had his holiday earlier, Christ JM couldn't get some of our players playing any better than they are. We are not Leicester and it appears we are not even on the same playing field as them as they have score 9 goals past us in 3 games, They are attracting better loanee players than us, And the ones we have are either letting us down or injured, Vaughn is doing ok but only a matter of time before he gets injured again, Then we are left with Lee, Which takes me back to my orig point players needed to be brought in.
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Post by E4b on Feb 3, 2013 12:28:57 GMT 1
Everyone is aware of what a real fan Deano is and I am sure a lot of us would love to have earned a fortune like his to be able to do the same. This does not mean that I have to agree with everything he does. I would not jump of a bridge for him. As you are fully aware I am disappointed with the lack of ambition shown. If I would have his fortune you would be watching a far superior Huddersfield Town team,believe me! There's a tone as if DH is lucky to have his wealth, rather than he created it through hard work, speculation and excellent judgement. When I grow up I want to be an astronaut. I bet you do. Reminds me of a total pranack that used to go around saying that when I was a nipper.
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Post by dazb69 on Feb 3, 2013 12:29:16 GMT 1
Never denied DH was a business man, and that he WOULD sell on the club after he had improved it with quite a bit of interest if it were in the correct division and who could blame him. If he sold it on and we were in The Prem, (and I've said all along if we ever got thare, that's what he'd look to do), most and I say most, loosely, would be more than happy. Saying that, you can't not see that his investment is improving the club in the right direction.........gone have the days training at what wasn't much better than "amateur" facilities to a purpose built Canalside, and I know it all adds value to his asset, but the club as a whole is in a much stronger position.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2013 12:34:03 GMT 1
Never denied DH was a business man, and that he WOULD sell on the club after he had improved it with quite a bit of interest if it were in the correct division and who could blame him. If he sold it on and we were in The Prem, (and I've said all along if we ever got thare, that's what he'd look to do), most and I say most, loosely, would be more than happy. Saying that, you can't not see that his investment is improving the club in the right direction.........gone have the days training at what wasn't much better than "amateur" facilities to a purpose built Canalside, and I know it all adds value to his asset, but the club as a whole is in a much stronger position. I half agree with you, Howevr I think that Deano was hoping to have the Share issue sorted out by now, And was prob hoping to sell the club once the shares had been returned in The Championship not Premiership as it would be more attractive to investor to make more money, The canalside issue would add value to the club if the share issue was sorted out, However until this is sorted it is a massive luxury to the team and a fitness club to the public.
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