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Post by midge on Mar 19, 2023 19:28:25 GMT 1
How is Midgley doing, he is one before his injury that I thought would get a game with the seniors. I have always highly rated him. I’ll leave that for someone else to answer 😂👍⚽️ No idea who you are on about🤔😬 He has been back playing about 3 weeks and all looking ok! (Touch wood 🍀 etc) Contract up in June so 1st hurdle is to get a new deal if possible! If that happens, suspect he will go out on loan somewhere next season but who know🤷🏼 |
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Post by rockwall on Mar 19, 2023 21:38:01 GMT 1
I’ll leave that for someone else to answer 😂👍⚽️ No idea who you are on about🤔😬 He has been back playing about 3 weeks and all looking ok! (Touch wood 🍀 etc) Contract up in June so 1st hurdle is to get a new deal if possible! If that happens, suspect he will go out on loan somewhere next season but who know🤷🏼 Thanks. |
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Post by Porrohman on Mar 19, 2023 21:47:55 GMT 1
I’ll leave that for someone else to answer 😂👍⚽️ No idea who you are on about🤔😬 He has been back playing about 3 weeks and all looking ok! (Touch wood 🍀 etc) Contract up in June so 1st hurdle is to get a new deal if possible! If that happens, suspect he will go out on loan somewhere next season but who know🤷🏼 🤞🤞🤞 |
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Post by Dan on Mar 19, 2023 21:53:29 GMT 1
I’ll leave that for someone else to answer 😂👍⚽️ No idea who you are on about🤔😬 He has been back playing about 3 weeks and all looking ok! (Touch wood 🍀 etc) Contract up in June so 1st hurdle is to get a new deal if possible! If that happens, suspect he will go out on loan somewhere next season but who know🤷🏼 You forget about the effect the chaos of this season could have had on the academy lads. Change of owners, Brombys responsibilitys changed, interim chief exec, not knowing divisional status etc etc. Must be a stressful time for them, particularly not knowing whose hands their futures are in. Best of luck to Ben 🤞🏻 |
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Post by terriersyndrome on Mar 21, 2023 21:45:06 GMT 1
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Post by Sparrow on Mar 21, 2023 23:31:26 GMT 1
I’d imagine there’ll be quite a lot leave this summer, we’ve got too many in the U19s & B team. So those that are leaving will have the opportunity to go on trial elsewhere before the end of the season
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Post by dezzly on Mar 22, 2023 20:01:24 GMT 1
Is it the case that championship clubs(I know we may not be one for much longer) need to be category 2 by 2024?
If so that’s potentially a fair amount of work/investment needed in not a very long duration.
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Post by Dan on Mar 22, 2023 20:05:11 GMT 1
Is it the case that championship clubs(I know we may not be one for much longer) need to be category 2 by 2024? If so that’s potentially a fair amount of work/investment needed in not a very long duration. That rule is for Premier League clubs and it's Category 3 that is the requirement I think. Means there would need to be age groups from under 9's whereas Category 4 starts from Under 17's. Assume Brentford are having to restructure their academy as a result... |
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Post by dalesterrier on Mar 22, 2023 20:06:29 GMT 1
If it is the Dutch group.... interesting to see how they deal with the academy
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Post by dezzly on Mar 22, 2023 20:10:31 GMT 1
Is it the case that championship clubs(I know we may not be one for much longer) need to be category 2 by 2024? If so that’s potentially a fair amount of work/investment needed in not a very long duration. That rule is for Premier League clubs and it's Category 3 that is the requirement I think. Means there would need to be age groups from under 9's whereas Category 4 starts from Under 17's. Assume Brentford are having to restructure their academy as a result... Ah right fair enough.Yes Brentford have some thinking to do. |
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Post by midge on Mar 22, 2023 20:15:24 GMT 1
If it is the Dutch group.... interesting to see how they deal with the academy Had a look and they seemingly run a 9 to 16s program. Would be different for different clubs in different countries I guess - they may have a decent catchment area? I know DHs beef was always that we were just a breeding ground for players who then just went to big clubs. I guess if it is the Dutch they may have to weigh up as to whether they think our model has been more productive or not in last 5 years? |
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Post by dezzly on Mar 22, 2023 21:03:39 GMT 1
If it is the Dutch group.... interesting to see how they deal with the academy Had a look and they seemingly run a 9 to 16s program. Would be different for different clubs in different countries I guess - they may have a decent catchment area? I know DHs beef was always that we were just a breeding ground for players who then just went to big clubs. I guess if it is the Dutch they may have to weigh up as to whether they think our model has been more productive or not in last 5 years? I think yeh looking at their model,especially with brexit,I think the academy will need looking at and maybe re expanding to some scale.the competition is tough granted but they might need to find a way. |
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Post by dalesterrier on Mar 22, 2023 21:56:21 GMT 1
Alkmaar is only 40 minutes away from Amsterdam so I guess the catchment will be limited. That said do they have the same rules in Holland as they do over here regarding signing younger players?
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Post by dezzly on Mar 23, 2023 8:59:48 GMT 1
Alkmaar is only 40 minutes away from Amsterdam so I guess the catchment will be limited. That said do they have the same rules in Holland as they do over here regarding signing younger players? Without actually having a look with them been that close to amsterdam(ajax) I wouldn’t be surprised if at a young age they picked up the players ajax didn’t and then again picked off what they released at 17/18. |
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Post by Sparrow on Mar 23, 2023 11:17:18 GMT 1
I would imagine that if it's the Dutch they may very well look at our Academy model and, whilst thinking it's an interesting one, hasn't really worked as planned and will go back to the tradition model of a pre Academy and then U9s - U16's.
I think they may very well keep the B team as well. Possibly with their connections in Holland there may be some matches out there or Dutch teams come over here??
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Post by midge on Mar 23, 2023 11:32:47 GMT 1
I would imagine that if it's the Dutch they may very well look at our Academy model and, whilst thinking it's an interesting one, hasn't really worked as planned and will go back to the tradition model of a pre Academy and then U9s - U16's. I think they may very well keep the B team as well. Possibly with their connections in Holland there may be some matches out there or Dutch teams come over here?? Would be interesting to see your view on why you feel it hasn't worked as planned Jon? I'm pretty sure you would struggle to run the B team in it's current format and the 9 to 16s program on cost alone! All the staff you have now at Canalside and then introducing the layer of cost for a the new program is not feasible IMO, notwithstanding the practicalities (and further cost) of finding a hundred and odd 9 to 16 year olds!!! You also have to look at return on investment and whether you believe the new program has worked or not(you won't be suprised to know I think it has!) it produces a more immediate ROI and that will be key to new owners/investors decisions! |
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Post by Sparrow on Mar 23, 2023 12:10:57 GMT 1
I would imagine that if it's the Dutch they may very well look at our Academy model and, whilst thinking it's an interesting one, hasn't really worked as planned and will go back to the tradition model of a pre Academy and then U9s - U16's. I think they may very well keep the B team as well. Possibly with their connections in Holland there may be some matches out there or Dutch teams come over here?? Would be interesting to see your view on why you feel it hasn't worked as planned Jon? I'm pretty sure you would struggle to run the B team in it's current format and the 9 to 16s program on cost alone! All the staff you have now at Canalside and then introducing the layer of cost for a the new program is not feasible IMO, notwithstanding the practicalities (and further cost) of finding a hundred and odd 9 to 16 year olds!!! You also have to look at return on investment and whether you believe the new program has worked or not(you won't be suprised to know I think it has!) it produces a more immediate ROI and that will be key to new owners/investors decisions! I think we've ended up with too many youngsters and too many that are not developing or have had their development stagnated due to the sheer volume of youngsters that we have. I think there's going to be quite a big cull in numbers this summer. I'd image quite a few not getting new contracts, quite a lot of 2nd year scholars not getting pro deals and very few new scholars coming in. We've canned the U17s and I think that's led to a situation where either kids are not playing matches, due to there's only so many matches/teams to play in. Or you've got 16/17 year olds playing in U19's games, just to get game time, but they are not ready to play in that age group. So that lack of game time or playing in matches they are not ready for, is stifling their development. I think some of the 2nd year scholars that get released this summer will probably feel they've not played enough or been given enough of a chance. I don't quite think the B Team games programme has been as good as was first hoped or envisaged. It's been ok, but not quite what was first planned / envisaged. Although, Covid has undoubtedly had an impact. I'm certainly not being too critical of the new structure as I do like the idea of it and it has certainly provided us with some real gems that we wouldn't have got with the old structure, such as Bilo, Camara, Diarra, Headley......Tom Iorpenda being the next one. I just think that it's not quite worked as well as planned. I think the execution of the plan could have been better. However, I naturally understand that as it was something new, we weren't going to get everything right. I suppose you could argue that we've got more right than wrong.....but my gut just says to me that it's not quite worked out as planned. As I say mate, certainly not a big criticism. I do hear what you're saying re the cost of running the B team and then having a full Academy under that. However, over time, you could bring in a full Academy structure whilst still maintaining the B team. The Dutch are very big on Youth Development. Whether it's the Dutch, the Yanks or someone else, it'll be interesting to see what they do with the Academy. If we do ever get back to the Premier League, we'd need a full academy anyway |
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Mar 24, 2023 15:09:06 GMT 1
B team line-up at Barnsley.
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Post by Tinpot on Mar 24, 2023 17:33:07 GMT 1
Who is Mrisho?
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Post by Sparrow on Mar 24, 2023 17:48:09 GMT 1
17 year old Right Back / Centre Back. 1st Year Scholar Previously at Brighton. We seem to have a good relationship with them as Tom Iorpenda and a few others have come from there and we've had a few trialist in this season from them who aren't getting scholarships there as well. |
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Post by rockwall on Mar 25, 2023 13:21:49 GMT 1
Saw we lost 2-1. Anyone manage to know how we played? Any positives/disappointments?
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Post by Tinpot on Mar 25, 2023 14:46:37 GMT 1
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Post by tepidterrier on Mar 29, 2023 13:37:25 GMT 1
Pat Jones back in action today
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Mar 29, 2023 13:55:53 GMT 1
B Team 5-1 up at half time v Preston with goals from Stone, High, Harratt, Bright & Simpson.
Let's hope the takeover news inspires the first team to a similar goal glut on Saturday.
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Mar 29, 2023 15:45:56 GMT 1
A second half brace from Hudlin sealed a 7-1 victory.
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Post by Porrohman on Mar 30, 2023 18:14:01 GMT 1
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Post by 3Pipe on Mar 30, 2023 18:35:58 GMT 1
Tidy stuff. 👌
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Post by mosher on Mar 31, 2023 9:27:55 GMT 1
Lovely. But what the hell is going on? On most of those goals Town have got more than one person in and around the box. Are we allowed to do that?  Seriously though, a wide range of different types of goals, some brilliant tippy tappy football along with a couple of direct ones. Hopefully they carry that to the first team at some point. |
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Post by Sparrow on Mar 31, 2023 12:31:29 GMT 1
Pat Jones's (I think) cross with the outside of his right boot for the 3rd goal is terrific. Can we keep him fit for next season?  |
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Post by rockwall on Mar 31, 2023 16:29:35 GMT 1
Hudlin looked to have a bit of pace unless their defence were in treacle for the last.
Lovely free kick too.
Hopefully we see some of these lads in the future.
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