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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2014 11:51:45 GMT 1
I think crowd numbers and how much noise you make or don't make are the very LEAST of your problems! Fans are under this false illusion that fans make the slightest difference anyway. If it was the case, L**ds and Sheff Wed would be flying high. OR.... Just think how much worse theyd be if they didnt have big crowds?! |
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Post by Colt Seavers on Mar 19, 2014 12:29:53 GMT 1
Fans are under this false illusion that fans make the slightest difference anyway. If it was the case, L**ds and Sheff Wed would be flying high. OR.... Just think how much worse theyd be if they didnt have big crowds?! Barcelona and Real Madrid could play behind close doors every week and it wouldn't hinder their performance any. Fans are encouraged to pay over inflated prices to watch below standard football in order to pay ridiculous wages to egotistical morons on a whole. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2014 13:05:41 GMT 1
I dont disagree with you in principal, but I think there is a case to say that playing in front of a crowd can make some small percentage positive or negative different to performance.
Barcelona and Real are teams with brillant footballers usually playimg against teams much worse than they, hence them having backing or not is mostly irrelevant.
But...i know for example that even something like running a 5km, which for me not as a natural runner is a bit of an effort, if I'm fading away in the last km, when I get to the last couple hundred metres, and theres 50+ folk cheering me (not just me!) on and maybe one or two faster pals who have already finished giving me direct encouragement, it certainly spurs me on to raise my pace for that finish.
Teams tend to have a better record at home. Host teams tend to do well at World Cups. You need to have a football team of course, but encouragement CAN make a percentage change to effort etc. (even if the impact on results is typically going to be nothing).
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Post by midlander on Mar 19, 2014 16:55:22 GMT 1
Blackburns away attendance on Saturday was a disgrace and a shock tbh, I expected them to fill that away end. They did last year if I remember right. No they didn't. It was a Tuesday night match and they possibly filled half of it - they were quite excited about their new Norwegian manager, if I remember rightly. Henning didn't last long though! |
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Post by HuddersfieldTownFC on Mar 19, 2014 17:14:01 GMT 1
I was shocked at Blackburn only bringing that amount and only seemed to sing about some lad called Jordan Rhodes he scores when he wants apperently.
we have sold over 1,500 for saturday hope we push for 2,000 would be a good day out
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Post by Captainslapper on Mar 19, 2014 23:53:56 GMT 1
Bit unfair that. Cup - Watford - 1,200 Wigan - 5,100 Arsenal - 19,500 Villa - 18,000 Villa (a) - 6,700 Cap Cup Final - 33,000 Play off (h) - 15,000 Play off (a) - 2,000 Play off final - 26,000 All contributed to a very expensive season - oh, and very small league allocations. Poor numbers in the past mirror the effort on the field - goes without saying really - Accrington Stanley for six straight seasons becomes a little tedious after a while. So having a very successful season is now an excuse for poor support? Or is it the expense? If it's the expense then it just back up my opinion that if you charged what we and most other clubs charge, you'd struggle to get 8000 gates. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2014 0:11:52 GMT 1
Bit unfair that. Cup - Watford - 1,200 Wigan - 5,100 Arsenal - 19,500 Villa - 18,000 Villa (a) - 6,700 Cap Cup Final - 33,000 Play off (h) - 15,000 Play off (a) - 2,000 Play off final - 26,000 All contributed to a very expensive season - oh, and very small league allocations. Poor numbers in the past mirror the effort on the field - goes without saying really - Accrington Stanley for six straight seasons becomes a little tedious after a while. So having a very successful season is now an excuse for poor support? Or is it the expense? If it's the expense then it just back up my opinion that if you charged what we and most other clubs charge, you'd struggle to get 8000 gates. More creative work with figures by a Bradford fan. They sold 22k for Wembley trip no2. |
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Post by Captainslapper on Mar 20, 2014 0:15:10 GMT 1
To be fair, in bradford 22000 is actually spelt 26000.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2014 13:44:09 GMT 1
Bit unfair that. Cup - Watford - 1,200 Wigan - 5,100 Arsenal - 19,500 Villa - 18,000 Villa (a) - 6,700 Cap Cup Final - 33,000 Play off (h) - 15,000 Play off (a) - 2,000 Play off final - 26,000 All contributed to a very expensive season - oh, and very small league allocations. Poor numbers in the past mirror the effort on the field - goes without saying really - Accrington Stanley for six straight seasons becomes a little tedious after a while. So having a very successful season is now an excuse for poor support? Or is it the expense? If it's the expense then it just back up my opinion that if you charged what we and most other clubs charge, you'd struggle to get 8000 gates. small allocations that Bradford never filled hahahaha. the excuses aer unreal. Average over 10,000 at home but only 400 away for two seasons, by far the worst ratio in the football league. Or perhaps they didnt really average over 10,000 at home, and more like 6000 with the cheapest season tickets in the league? |
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Post by queenybantam07 on Mar 21, 2014 3:26:28 GMT 1
Bit unfair that. Cup - Watford - 1,200 Wigan - 5,100 Arsenal - 19,500 Villa - 18,000 Villa (a) - 6,700 Cap Cup Final - 33,000 Play off (h) - 15,000 Play off (a) - 2,000 Play off final - 26,000 All contributed to a very expensive season - oh, and very small league allocations. Poor numbers in the past mirror the effort on the field - goes without saying really - Accrington Stanley for six straight seasons becomes a little tedious after a while. So having a very successful season is now an excuse for poor support? Or is it the expense? If it's the expense then it just back up my opinion that if you charged what we and most other clubs charge, you'd struggle to get 8000 gates. Hang about, you're getting ahead of yourself here. We're a relatively average sized L1 club with a average sized fanbase. Very much like yourselves. Last season was ridiculously expensive. You can attempt to pull the averages to bits at your peril, but I can sorta reason with you as you haven't the slightest clue what it's like to play 64 games in a season, have you? Games against Chesterfield and Cheltenham for example, where demand for tickets were obviously high - the allocations meant not everyone got a ticket. If we had taken thousands down, effectively bumping the average up, would that have helped my cause? - simply because we had took X amount to whoever gave us a feasible allocation? Aaaanyway...... 8,000? Give it a rest mate. How you lot can go on about away support given your pathetic followings at Valley Parade down the years is comical to say the least. |
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Post by queenybantam07 on Mar 21, 2014 3:40:00 GMT 1
So having a very successful season is now an excuse for poor support? Or is it the expense? If it's the expense then it just back up my opinion that if you charged what we and most other clubs charge, you'd struggle to get 8000 gates. More creative work with figures by a Bradford fan. They sold 22k for Wembley trip no2. Pulling figures from the air again? We had sold 24,000 days before the game, not to mention it was pay on the day. But what would I know. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2014 6:50:33 GMT 1
lets have a look at some figures.
Bradford population 522,500 average away following 867 0.165% of population
Huddersfield District 270,000 average away following 1,359 0.5% of population
based on those true figures for away support this shows shittys support is only a third as strong as towns.
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Post by 3Pipe on Mar 21, 2014 7:23:29 GMT 1
Crap, back to the Scott Arfield thread it is then...
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Post by queenybantam07 on Mar 21, 2014 7:29:22 GMT 1
lets have a look at some figures. Bradford population 522,500 average away following 867 0.165% of population Huddersfield District 270,000 average away following 1,359 0.5% of population based on those true figures for away support this shows shittys support is only a third as strong as towns. Ah yes, the old population chestnut. I have already been through this, and explained in great detail. Thou' shall not repeat ones self. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2014 7:33:06 GMT 1
lets have a look at some figures. Bradford population 522,500 average away following 867 0.165% of population Huddersfield District 270,000 average away following 1,359 0.5% of population based on those true figures for away support this shows shittys support is only a third as strong as towns. Ah yes, the old population chestnut. I have already been through this, and explained in great detail. Thou' shall not repeat ones self. good. you can f..k off now you have been proven wrong. Numbers don't lie future meal in my belly. jog on chicken. back to the coup. |
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Post by queenybantam07 on Mar 21, 2014 7:39:10 GMT 1
Ah yes, the old population chestnut. I have already been through this, and explained in great detail. Thou' shall not repeat ones self. good. you can f..k off now you have been proven wrong. Numbers don't lie future meal in my belly. jog on chicken. back to the coup. Cheerio, population debater of Huddersfield from Farsley. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2014 7:44:21 GMT 1
good. you can f..k off now you have been proven wrong. Numbers don't lie future meal in my belly. jog on chicken. back to the coup. Cheerio, population debater of Huddersfield from Farsley. ah yes.... such a great place to be.. ie: not in bradford. oh well off to work i go... something most of the inbreds and chicken f..kers in bradford can only dream of. |
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Post by dsr on Mar 21, 2014 12:06:20 GMT 1
To all them Burnley fans who come on here.. imagine towns away average if we were second in the league Well, since you ask ...  Imagine Burnley's away average if we were a town of 150,000 people. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2014 13:14:39 GMT 1
More creative work with figures by a Bradford fan. They sold 22k for Wembley trip no2. Pulling figures from the air again? We had sold 24,000 days before the game, not to mention it was pay on the day. But what would I know. Said on SKY on the day you'd sold just over 22,000 officially. But what would they know...  |
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Post by Baby Ate My Eight Ball on Mar 21, 2014 13:43:12 GMT 1
So having a very successful season is now an excuse for poor support? Or is it the expense? If it's the expense then it just back up my opinion that if you charged what we and most other clubs charge, you'd struggle to get 8000 gates. You can attempt to pull the averages to bits at your peril, but I can sorta reason with you as you haven't the slightest clue what it's like to play 64 games in a season, have you? How you lot can go on about away support given your pathetic followings at Valley Parade down the years is comical to say the least. The season we played arsenal in the cup (3 years ago?) we played 64 games I think. Semi final of the JPT and play off final. Didn't hear anyone bleating about expensive day outs when we took 32000 to old trafford - more than 20% of the population of the town. The reason we 'go on' about away attendances is because there are several Bradford WUMs that hijack countless unrelated threads on here to boast about YOUR attendances. And if we're talking comical what about 50ish to Coventry and spurs in the premier league? |
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Post by NookTerrier on Mar 21, 2014 14:29:19 GMT 1
Nobody else find these attendance threads with Bradford tedious as fuck? Main thing is our team pisses all over theirs and that's all I'm bothered about. Thanks for making Nahki too, class act.
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Mar 21, 2014 14:33:13 GMT 1
I find Bradford City very tedious full stop never mind the attendance debate.
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Post by queenybantam07 on Mar 21, 2014 18:47:35 GMT 1
Pulling figures from the air again? We had sold 24,000 days before the game, not to mention it was pay on the day. But what would I know. Said on SKY on the day you'd sold just over 22,000 officially. But what would they know... Do a little research if you're so adamant. |
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Post by queenybantam07 on Mar 21, 2014 18:58:09 GMT 1
You can attempt to pull the averages to bits at your peril, but I can sorta reason with you as you haven't the slightest clue what it's like to play 64 games in a season, have you? How you lot can go on about away support given your pathetic followings at Valley Parade down the years is comical to say the least. The season we played arsenal in the cup (3 years ago?) we played 64 games I think. Semi final of the JPT and play off final. Didn't hear anyone bleating about expensive day outs when we took 32000 to old trafford - more than 20% of the population of the town. The reason we 'go on' about away attendances is because there are several Bradford WUMs that hijack countless unrelated threads on here to boast about YOUR attendances. And if we're talking comical what about 50ish to Coventry and spurs in the premier league? Aye, you played 61. BUT, you didn't have two Wembley finals to attend whereby you took just short of 60,000 fans in less than 12 week, did you? 32,000 to Old Trafford. Big wow. Hardly comparable. Can I just say, I hijack very few threads. If I see something worth replying to, I will - and more often than not, it's to correct your fellow fans. Again, it's down to point scoring. Not my game, pal. But, again, I can reason with you too, as you don't know what it's like to see the Premier League and fail to compete miserably due to some shoddy mismanagement. 50 odd fans to watch a team completely devoid of any confidence - all knowing we had years of struggle ahead due to our debt and inevitable administration - or, failing to sell out against your rivals 6 mile down the road on numerous occasions. |
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Post by Sio on Mar 21, 2014 19:02:19 GMT 1
The season we played arsenal in the cup (3 years ago?) we played 64 games I think. Semi final of the JPT and play off final. Didn't hear anyone bleating about expensive day outs when we took 32000 to old trafford - more than 20% of the population of the town. The reason we 'go on' about away attendances is because there are several Bradford WUMs that hijack countless unrelated threads on here to boast about YOUR attendances. And if we're talking comical what about 50ish to Coventry and spurs in the premier league? Aye, you played 61. BUT, you didn't have two Wembley finals attend whereby you took just short of 60,000 fans in less than 12 week, did you? 32,000 to Old Trafford. Big wow. Hardly comparable. Can I just say, I hijack very few threads. If I see something worth replying to, I will - and more often than not, it's to correct your fellow fans. Again, it's down to point scoring. Not my game, pal. But, again, I can reason with you two, as you don't know what it's like to see the Premier League and fail to compete miserably in our second season. 50 odd fans to watch a team completely devoid of any confidence, and all knowing we had years of struggle ahead due to our debt and inevitable administration - or, failing to sell out against your rivals 6 mile down the road on numerous occasions. I don't mind you because you do often speak some sense, but you know full well we don't sell many against Leeds because of the £30+ price tag. We can easily take 3-5000 to Barnsley/Sheffield etc, we all know if Leeds didn't charge crazy money wed take as many there. |
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Post by queenybantam07 on Mar 21, 2014 19:35:47 GMT 1
So when prices were set at £20 for away fans at Valley Parade, how come you never brought over 2,700?
Unless I'm mistaken?
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Post by Sio on Mar 21, 2014 19:37:45 GMT 1
So when prices were set at £20 for away fans at Valley Parade, how come you never brought over 2,700? Unless I'm mistaken? Not going to lie, I can't even remember the last time we played at Valley Parade let alone the bloody away following we brought. We were probably all a bit sick of visiting small clubs. Saving the money for a big away day. |
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Post by Art Vandelay on Mar 21, 2014 19:56:02 GMT 1
The season we played arsenal in the cup (3 years ago?) we played 64 games I think. Semi final of the JPT and play off final. Didn't hear anyone bleating about expensive day outs when we took 32000 to old trafford - more than 20% of the population of the town. The reason we 'go on' about away attendances is because there are several Bradford WUMs that hijack countless unrelated threads on here to boast about YOUR attendances. And if we're talking comical what about 50ish to Coventry and spurs in the premier league? Aye, you played 61. BUT, you didn't have two Wembley finals to attend whereby you took just short of 60,000 fans in less than 12 week, did you? 32,000 to Old Trafford. Big wow. Hardly comparable. Can I just say, I hijack very few threads. If I see something worth replying to, I will - and more often than not, it's to correct your fellow fans. Again, it's down to point scoring. Not my game, pal. But, again, I can reason with you too, as you don't know what it's like to see the Premier League and fail to compete miserably due to some shoddy mismanagement. 50 odd fans to watch a team completely devoid of any confidence - all knowing we had years of struggle ahead due to our debt and inevitable administration - or, failing to sell out against your rivals 6 mile down the road on numerous occasions. 6 miles? I can't remember the last time we played Halifax. |
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Post by NumeroUno on Mar 21, 2014 20:36:46 GMT 1
Why do Bradford always talk about their attendances?
Bradford = league one
Huddersfield = championship
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Post by Gordon Tuckers silky skills on Mar 21, 2014 20:50:22 GMT 1
Is their chairman still a fat sweaty bastard?
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