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Post by dugnet on Aug 3, 2014 15:59:57 GMT 1
The problem with the Clayton issue is that where we are at the moment selling arguably our best player would really hammer what is already limited confidence. I understand the economic reality but the underlying message would be that we can never really compete at this level, which, although another reality, is hard to take.
If the 1st team was healthier Clayton leaving, if he does, would be much easier to accept.
At the moment it feels as if the Champioship is just a step beyond our financial capability. We all want to be stronger and I still maintain that we can/should do better with our budget but we have all wanted a semblance of success for so long it's hard to take that the likes of Brentford and Bournemouth are more optimistic.
Here's hoping for some fresh momentum and optimism. Clayton staying would be a move in the right direction.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2014 16:02:32 GMT 1
The problem with the Clayton issue is that where we are at the moment selling arguably our best player would really hammer what is already limited confidence. I understand the economic reality but the underlying message would be that we can never really compete at this level, which, although another reality, is hard to take. If the 1st team was healthier Clayton leaving, if he does, would be much easier to accept. At the moment it feels as if the Champioship is just a step beyond our financial capability. We all want to be stronger and I still maintain that we can/should do better with our budget but we have all wanted a semblance of success for so long it's hard to take that the likes of Brentford and Bournemouth are more optimistic. Here's hoping for some fresh momentum and optimism. Clayton staying would be a move in the right direction. Sums it up well
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Post by Sugy , Paignton Devon Terrier on Aug 3, 2014 16:26:08 GMT 1
Is the Robins style the one that bored everybody to death last season and nearly emptied the ground at half time against Ipswich.
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Post by specialun on Aug 3, 2014 16:37:45 GMT 1
This is a disaster if true. I don't think there'll be any kind of replacement possible for a player who has loads of improvement left in him and is a complete midfield player at this level already. The most important player in our squad. Could we not have renewed his contract last year to avoid the situation that now seems likely? He's the one player I consistently enjoy watching. A year ago most people thought he was an idle waster who wasn't quite up to it. They were wrong... and now we're in a mess. If it's so easy to replace Clayton (if we should let him go) why aren't Middlesbrough and Brighton buying that replacement player instead of Clayton? Exactly - and not like we've had a constant stream of successful centre mids at the club is it? 10 years since the last player of the season was centre mid before Clayton
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2014 16:49:07 GMT 1
Our major problem is that we lack pace esp in defence and midfield. Hopefully the Clayton money can buy some.
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Post by shawsie on Aug 3, 2014 17:25:27 GMT 1
Our major problem is that we lack pace esp in defence and midfield. Hopefully the Clayton money can buy some. Too much of an obsession with pace IMO. What we lack are 3 things for me, namely.... 1. We aren't ruthless enough and miss too many chances. 2. We can't defend set pieces.....in fact we are hopeless at it. 3. When the going gets tough, our lot go to mush - ability wise we are as good as alot but mentally we are too weak. It's not easy to buy the answer either........we need one or two that lift others.....a clint hill, a wes morgan, a David nugent. Not many at our level and the ones that do are too expensive!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2014 17:32:27 GMT 1
Our major problem is that we lack pace esp in defence and midfield. Hopefully the Clayton money can buy some. Too much of an obsession with pace IMO. What we lack are 3 things for me, namely.... 1. We aren't ruthless enough and miss too many chances. 2. We can't defend set pieces.....in fact we are hopeless at it. 3. When the going gets tough, our lot go to mush - ability wise we are as good as alot but mentally we are too weak. It's not easy to buy the answer either........we need one or two that lift others.....a clint hill, a wes morgan, a David nugent. Not many at our level and the ones that do are too expensive! That's my point with Clayton, Jon. We are nearly better off keeping him for the last year of his contract and using his skills to keep us up. Staying in the division has got to be worth 2 million quid anyroad. Sell him and and who do we buy of that quality to replace him?
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Post by shawsie on Aug 3, 2014 17:56:43 GMT 1
Too much of an obsession with pace IMO. What we lack are 3 things for me, namely.... 1. We aren't ruthless enough and miss too many chances. 2. We can't defend set pieces.....in fact we are hopeless at it. 3. When the going gets tough, our lot go to mush - ability wise we are as good as alot but mentally we are too weak. It's not easy to buy the answer either........we need one or two that lift others.....a clint hill, a wes morgan, a David nugent. Not many at our level and the ones that do are too expensive! That's my point with Clayton, Jon. We are nearly better off keeping him for the last year of his contract and using his skills to keep us up. Staying in the division has got to be worth 2 million quid anyroad. Sell him and and who do we buy of that quality to replace him? I am a bit split after yesterday Reece .......... He is wasted IMO just in front of the back three but has to play there because Hogg apart we have nobody else! Anything north of 2m is good money and I think we will need to cash in......the problem is do we trust the manager to use the money wisely?! Robins is right royally peeing me off at the moment..... He persists with a team shape we haven't got the players to perform in less than a week before we start the season in earnest. Where is the development of billing, Charles, Holmes who should all be getting quality pre season game time to push on if we aren't able to recruit via bringing in new players. What's the ruddy point of 2 teams playing 45mins each on tues v Newcastle.....why bother going and paying 15 quid if we aren't going to see 60mins plus of what purports to be the main line up for sat honing themselves for the big kick off?! It's a marketing disaster doing that surely?! And the coup de grace.....I sat in the main stand yesterday next to the directors box and it was like watching Wadsworth - no drive, no passion, no purpose from MR. I understand it's pre season, but it's 1 wk from the start and they should be bang at it, chomping at the bit to win and build confidence for the challenges ahead! As it was, ward and Sinnott spent half time doing shin keepy uppys on the touch line and Hammill thought he was at the freestyle Olympics pre match!!!! I sincerely hope he proves us all hopelessly wrong and we have a good season, but at present it doesn't look like it to me.
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Post by terrierng on Aug 3, 2014 18:05:41 GMT 1
Too much of an obsession with pace IMO. What we lack are 3 things for me, namely.... 1. We aren't ruthless enough and miss too many chances. 2. We can't defend set pieces.....in fact we are hopeless at it. 3. When the going gets tough, our lot go to mush - ability wise we are as good as alot but mentally we are too weak. It's not easy to buy the answer either........we need one or two that lift others.....a clint hill, a wes morgan, a David nugent. Not many at our level and the ones that do are too expensive! That's my point with Clayton, Jon. We are nearly better off keeping him for the last year of his contract and using his skills to keep us up. Staying in the division has got to be worth 2 million quid anyroad. Sell him and and who do we buy of that quality to replace him?
this is what the manager and his scouting networks get paid for,its been an open secret that clayton could possibly be leaving and I believe he is very close to doing so and if that's the case then robins should have identified a replacement,either a loan or permanent,if he hasn't then he wants getting rid of.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2014 18:05:51 GMT 1
That's my point with Clayton, Jon. We are nearly better off keeping him for the last year of his contract and using his skills to keep us up. Staying in the division has got to be worth 2 million quid anyroad. Sell him and and who do we buy of that quality to replace him? I am a bit split after yesterday Reece .......... He is wasted IMO just in front of the back three but has to play there because Hogg apart we have nobody else! Anything north of 2m is good money and I think we will need to cash in......the problem is do we trust the manager to use the money wisely?! Robins is right royally peeing me off at the moment..... He persists with a team shape we haven't got the players to perform in less than a week before we start the season in earnest. Where is the development of billing, Charles, Holmes who should all be getting quality pre season game time to push on if we aren't able to recruit via bringing in new players. What's the ruddy point of 2 teams playing 45mins each on tues v Newcastle.....why bother going and paying 15 quid if we aren't going to see 60mins plus of what purports to be the main line up for sat honing themselves for the big kick off?! It's a marketing disaster doing that surely?! And the coup de grace.....I sat in the main stand yesterday next to the directors box and it was like watching Wadsworth - no drive, no passion, no purpose from MR. I understand it's pre season, but it's 1 wk from the start and they should be bang at it, chomping at the bit to win and build confidence for the challenges ahead! As it was, ward and Sinnott spent half time doing shin keepy uppys on the touch line and Hammill thought he was at the freestyle Olympics pre match!!!! I sincerely hope he proves us all hopelessly wrong and we have a good season, but at present it doesn't look like it to me. It's all pointing one way, isn't it? I'll be amazed if there's any other outcome than the inevitable. After Ipswich I thought his only chance of survival was with quality additions. They've not really materialised in the areas of concern. He's going to have to suddenly re-invent himself or he's a gonner.
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Post by SaudiTerrier on Aug 3, 2014 18:09:10 GMT 1
Too much of an obsession with pace IMO. What we lack are 3 things for me, namely.... 1. We aren't ruthless enough and miss too many chances. 2. We can't defend set pieces.....in fact we are hopeless at it. 3. When the going gets tough, our lot go to mush - ability wise we are as good as alot but mentally we are too weak. It's not easy to buy the answer either........we need one or two that lift others.....a clint hill, a wes morgan, a David nugent. Not many at our level and the ones that do are too expensive! That's my point with Clayton, Jon. We are nearly better off keeping him for the last year of his contract and using his skills to keep us up. Staying in the division has got to be worth 2 million quid anyroad. Sell him and and who do we buy of that quality to replace him? I thought that Peltier was capable of playing in the middle? Assuming no new signings we could have a back 3 of Smith, Gerrard, Lynch with Hogg and Peltier in front. It looks like he'll be our captain so playing that position would help with that too. Seems defensive but we kinda need to be as we still seem to be letting soft goals in or being accused of having a lightweight midfield. Then the attack can come through Hammill/Dixon on wings, Majewski in CAM, with Vaughan and Wells up front. The likes of Ward, Scannell, Holmes, Norwood on the bench could allow for changes in formation/tactics. Of course that's if we sell Clayton and don't buy anyone else.. and I doubt that'll be the case.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2014 18:10:29 GMT 1
I am a bit split after yesterday Reece .......... He is wasted IMO just in front of the back three but has to play there because Hogg apart we have nobody else! Anything north of 2m is good money and I think we will need to cash in......the problem is do we trust the manager to use the money wisely?! Robins is right royally peeing me off at the moment..... He persists with a team shape we haven't got the players to perform in less than a week before we start the season in earnest. Where is the development of billing, Charles, Holmes who should all be getting quality pre season game time to push on if we aren't able to recruit via bringing in new players. What's the ruddy point of 2 teams playing 45mins each on tues v Newcastle.....why bother going and paying 15 quid if we aren't going to see 60mins plus of what purports to be the main line up for sat honing themselves for the big kick off?! It's a marketing disaster doing that surely?! And the coup de grace.....I sat in the main stand yesterday next to the directors box and it was like watching Wadsworth - no drive, no passion, no purpose from MR. I understand it's pre season, but it's 1 wk from the start and they should be bang at it, chomping at the bit to win and build confidence for the challenges ahead! As it was, ward and Sinnott spent half time doing shin keepy uppys on the touch line and Hammill thought he was at the freestyle Olympics pre match!!!! I sincerely hope he proves us all hopelessly wrong and we have a good season, but at present it doesn't look like it to me. It's all pointing one way, isn't it? I'll be amazed if there's any other outcome than the inevitable. After Ipswich I thought his only chance of survival was with quality additions. They've not really materialised in the areas of concern. He's going to have to suddenly re-invent himself or he's a gonner. I just can't see him doing that though, his stubbornness over his team selection, reluctance to play certain players etc suggests he is stuck in his ways. The bloke has little charisma, and its rubbing off on the team and affecting their performances.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2014 18:12:00 GMT 1
Who would come to us though if we do get rid of Robins?
Doesn't seem to be many realistic suggestions out there at the moment who I'd want to see here
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2014 18:17:05 GMT 1
Who would come to us though if we do get rid of Robins? Doesn't seem to be many realistic suggestions out there at the moment who I'd want to see here if we're going to persist with a tiki taka style of play maybe we should be looking at spain or portugal for a manager if robins gets the bullet Sent from my GT-I9305 using proboards
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Post by terrierng on Aug 3, 2014 18:20:04 GMT 1
Who would come to us though if we do get rid of Robins? Doesn't seem to be many realistic suggestions out there at the moment who I'd want to see here promote from within?cynics could say the whole change in the backroom staff was done with this in mind?
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Post by rantinray on Aug 3, 2014 18:20:55 GMT 1
The problem with the Clayton issue is that where we are at the moment selling arguably our best player would really hammer what is already limited confidence. I understand the economic reality but the underlying message would be that we can never really compete at this level, which, although another reality, is hard to take. If the 1st team was healthier Clayton leaving, if he does, would be much easier to accept. At the moment it feels as if the Champioship is just a step beyond our financial capability. We all want to be stronger and I still maintain that we can/should do better with our budget but we have all wanted a semblance of success for so long it's hard to take that the likes of Brentford and Bournemouth are more optimistic. Here's hoping for some fresh momentum and optimism. Clayton staying would be a move in the right direction. Sums it up well Agree 100% with this statement. We need quality players to stay afloat let alone finish high in the division. These goals set by our chairman (5 year plan) cannot be achieved by selling our better players.
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Post by workshyfop on Aug 3, 2014 18:21:42 GMT 1
It's obvious that after everyone has blamed Robins despite selling the best player and him not being allowed to bring in the players he wants and that we desperately need, that he'll get sacked when we're inevitably bottom of the league after a dozen games. No one would want the job from outside, so one of the coaches will be promoted to manager. It's depressing at the moment unless we get some drastic pleasant surprises this week.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2014 18:22:23 GMT 1
Who would come to us though if we do get rid of Robins? Doesn't seem to be many realistic suggestions out there at the moment who I'd want to see here promote from within?cynics could say the whole change in the backroom staff was done with this in mind? But who on the books is capable Thompson has only ever been a coach Steve Eyre had a nightmare as manager at Rochdale, seems more suited to coaching
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Post by rantinray on Aug 3, 2014 18:32:41 GMT 1
It's obvious that after everyone has blamed Robins despite selling the best player and him not being allowed to bring in the players he wants and that we desperately need, that he'll get sacked when we're inevitably bottom of the league after a dozen games. No one would want the job from outside, so one of the coaches will be promoted to manager. It's depressing at the moment unless we get some drastic pleasant surprises this week. Most managers are really only as good as the players they have in the squad. Yes, some managers can motivate and instill a good team spirit into the squad but these guys are professionals. There performances on the field can enhance their credit or hurt it. Robins is in a tight spot especially if he is advised to sell players who he knows are the backbone of the team. Football as we all know is a results driven game/business. So, what will our season be like? Fact is at the moment it is not starting out all that well.
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Post by terrierng on Aug 3, 2014 18:33:36 GMT 1
promote from within?cynics could say the whole change in the backroom staff was done with this in mind? But who on the books is capable Thompson has only ever been a coach Steve Eyre had a nightmare as manager at Rochdale, seems more suited to coaching steve eyre did ok with the u21s mate,natural progression,lots of managers do well when they have been shit somewhere else...plus all the players rate him,one of the reasons he was promoted and the others sacked,the players didn't rate the other coaches,not like it looks to be making any difference yet though. forgot to add ,it would be cheap to do too.
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Post by specialun on Aug 3, 2014 18:57:06 GMT 1
That's my point with Clayton, Jon. We are nearly better off keeping him for the last year of his contract and using his skills to keep us up. Staying in the division has got to be worth 2 million quid anyroad. Sell him and and who do we buy of that quality to replace him? I am a bit split after yesterday Reece .......... He is wasted IMO just in front of the back three but has to play there because Hogg apart we have nobody else! Anything north of 2m is good money and I think we will need to cash in......the problem is do we trust the manager to use the money wisely?! Robins is right royally peeing me off at the moment..... He persists with a team shape we haven't got the players to perform in less than a week before we start the season in earnest. Where is the development of billing, Charles, Holmes who should all be getting quality pre season game time to push on if we aren't able to recruit via bringing in new players. What's the ruddy point of 2 teams playing 45mins each on tues v Newcastle.....why bother going and paying 15 quid if we aren't going to see 60mins plus of what purports to be the main line up for sat honing themselves for the big kick off?! It's a marketing disaster doing that surely?! And the coup de grace.....I sat in the main stand yesterday next to the directors box and it was like watching Wadsworth - no drive, no passion, no purpose from MR. I understand it's pre season, but it's 1 wk from the start and they should be bang at it, chomping at the bit to win and build confidence for the challenges ahead! As it was, ward and Sinnott spent half time doing shin keepy uppys on the touch line and Hammill thought he was at the freestyle Olympics pre match!!!! I sincerely hope he proves us all hopelessly wrong and we have a good season, but at present it doesn't look like it to me. 10/20 minutes here and there for Holmes, Lolley, Billing is not going to develop them - how are they possibly expected to slot into the team and develop. 90 minutes versus dog and duck B team for the development squad won't develop them pre season, 60 mins + v Oldham v Newcastle etc will. As for playing two teams v Newcastle, ridiculous - who are we? Real Madrid? We look like 11 strangers. Does he really think we're ready to play next weekend? There's 4 days rest after the game, we'll have 11 fresh rested individuals running around next Saturday, I'd rather have a tired team playing as a team. The TEAM needs as many minutes together as they can. Granted, any knocks, tightness shouldn't be risked but playing 2 teams in 45 minutes is not the answer.
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Aug 3, 2014 18:59:58 GMT 1
I am a bit split after yesterday Reece .......... He is wasted IMO just in front of the back three but has to play there because Hogg apart we have nobody else! Anything north of 2m is good money and I think we will need to cash in......the problem is do we trust the manager to use the money wisely?! Robins is right royally peeing me off at the moment..... He persists with a team shape we haven't got the players to perform in less than a week before we start the season in earnest. Where is the development of billing, Charles, Holmes who should all be getting quality pre season game time to push on if we aren't able to recruit via bringing in new players. What's the ruddy point of 2 teams playing 45mins each on tues v Newcastle.....why bother going and paying 15 quid if we aren't going to see 60mins plus of what purports to be the main line up for sat honing themselves for the big kick off?! It's a marketing disaster doing that surely?! And the coup de grace.....I sat in the main stand yesterday next to the directors box and it was like watching Wadsworth - no drive, no passion, no purpose from MR. I understand it's pre season, but it's 1 wk from the start and they should be bang at it, chomping at the bit to win and build confidence for the challenges ahead! As it was, ward and Sinnott spent half time doing shin keepy uppys on the touch line and Hammill thought he was at the freestyle Olympics pre match!!!! I sincerely hope he proves us all hopelessly wrong and we have a good season, but at present it doesn't look like it to me. 10/20 minutes here and there for Holmes, Lolley, Billing is not going to develop them - how are they possibly expected to slot into the team and develop. 90 minutes versus dog and duck B team for the development squad won't develop them pre season, 60 mins + v Oldham v Newcastle etc will. As for playing two teams v Newcastle, ridiculous - who are we? Real Madrid? We look like 11 strangers. Does he really think we're ready to play next weekend? There's 4 days rest after the game, we'll have 11 fresh rested individuals running around next Saturday, I'd rather have a tired team playing as a team. The TEAM needs as many minutes together as they can. Granted, any knocks, tightness shouldn't be risked but playing 2 teams in 45 minutes is not the answer. Agree re this, and will JV be risked then out again, he seems clueless ,
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Post by rantinray on Aug 3, 2014 19:11:12 GMT 1
My thoughts were that the Newcastle game was too close to the season start. If we get injuries in this friendly then come Saturday they could still be sidelined. Will JV work out this season? If injuries still persist then what. We certainly cannot do with Wells playing the lone striker yet again. As yet I cannot see any positives. Some of our old issues for me have not been addressed. We shall see.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2014 19:15:57 GMT 1
I am a bit split after yesterday Reece .......... He is wasted IMO just in front of the back three but has to play there because Hogg apart we have nobody else! Anything north of 2m is good money and I think we will need to cash in......the problem is do we trust the manager to use the money wisely?! Robins is right royally peeing me off at the moment..... He persists with a team shape we haven't got the players to perform in less than a week before we start the season in earnest. Where is the development of billing, Charles, Holmes who should all be getting quality pre season game time to push on if we aren't able to recruit via bringing in new players. What's the ruddy point of 2 teams playing 45mins each on tues v Newcastle.....why bother going and paying 15 quid if we aren't going to see 60mins plus of what purports to be the main line up for sat honing themselves for the big kick off?! It's a marketing disaster doing that surely?! And the coup de grace.....I sat in the main stand yesterday next to the directors box and it was like watching Wadsworth - no drive, no passion, no purpose from MR. I understand it's pre season, but it's 1 wk from the start and they should be bang at it, chomping at the bit to win and build confidence for the challenges ahead! As it was, ward and Sinnott spent half time doing shin keepy uppys on the touch line and Hammill thought he was at the freestyle Olympics pre match!!!! I sincerely hope he proves us all hopelessly wrong and we have a good season, but at present it doesn't look like it to me. 10/20 minutes here and there for Holmes, Lolley, Billing is not going to develop them - how are they possibly expected to slot into the team and develop. 90 minutes versus dog and duck B team for the development squad won't develop them pre season, 60 mins + v Oldham v Newcastle etc will. As for playing two teams v Newcastle, ridiculous - who are we? Real Madrid? We look like 11 strangers. Does he really think we're ready to play next weekend? There's 4 days rest after the game, we'll have 11 fresh rested individuals running around next Saturday, I'd rather have a tired team playing as a team. The TEAM needs as many minutes together as they can. Granted, any knocks, tightness shouldn't be risked but playing 2 teams in 45 minutes is not the answer. Specialun... where've you been?!!!
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Post by King Curtis on Aug 3, 2014 21:53:42 GMT 1
I believe that he is pivotal to our chances next season and we should not accept any bid for him (unless someone offers silly money like £5m)
Clayton is our most consistent performer and should not be let go for £2m. I would much rather let his contract run down and stay in the championship than let him go and get relegated... £2m is nothing then!!
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Post by Giggity on Aug 3, 2014 22:28:54 GMT 1
I believe that he is pivotal to our chances next season and we should not accept any bid for him (unless someone offers silly money like £5m) Clayton is our most consistent performer and should not be let go for £2m. I would much rather let his contract run down and stay in the championship than let him go and get relegated... £2m is nothing then!! Come on now, he is a decent player and his style is very easy on the eye but he is not pivotal to our performances. A lot of times last season, he went missing and was ineffective. He hardly dragged us through the season. Take the money and replace him. Heck we might actually sign a midfielder that can run faster than a stunned slug.
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Post by Giggity on Aug 3, 2014 22:35:08 GMT 1
If he was so good, we wouldn't have lost to Scunthorpe and Oldham chuffin Athletic. Where was he then?
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Post by suggy71 on Aug 3, 2014 22:38:48 GMT 1
Adam Clayton isn't gonna keep us in this league single handedly,I rate him as one of our better players but personally think if we can get 2 mill for him let him go if he wants. All this negative talk about robins isn't productive to anyone yes he seems stubborn and set in his ways regarding formation but this set of players have proved that on their day they are a match for anyone on their day The problem with the championship is doing it week in week out and gaining consistency I think it's about time the players rolled their sleeves up and took responsibility and gave us fans what we deserve which is 100% commitment, far too often that hasn't been the case fresh season fresh start.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2014 22:53:29 GMT 1
I believe that he is pivotal to our chances next season and we should not accept any bid for him (unless someone offers silly money like £5m) Clayton is our most consistent performer and should not be let go for £2m. I would much rather let his contract run down and stay in the championship than let him go and get relegated... £2m is nothing then!! Come on now, he is a decent player and his style is very easy on the eye but he is not pivotal to our performances. A lot of times last season, he went missing and was ineffective. He hardly dragged us through the season. Take the money and replace him. Heck we might actually sign a midfielder that can run faster than a stunned slug. Who could we replace him with? You know your players generally...Personally I think we'd struggle to find a player with his skill set but then I am a fan of his. I would expect him to have an excellent season with shit scummy Brighton. Not bitter.
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Post by Melc on Aug 3, 2014 22:58:07 GMT 1
That's my point with Clayton, Jon. We are nearly better off keeping him for the last year of his contract and using his skills to keep us up. Staying in the division has got to be worth 2 million quid anyroad. Sell him and and who do we buy of that quality to replace him? I am a bit split after yesterday Reece .......... He is wasted IMO just in front of the back three but has to play there because Hogg apart we have nobody else! Anything north of 2m is good money and I think we will need to cash in......the problem is do we trust the manager to use the money wisely?! Robins is right royally peeing me off at the moment..... He persists with a team shape we haven't got the players to perform in less than a week before we start the season in earnest. Where is the development of billing, Charles, Holmes who should all be getting quality pre season game time to push on if we aren't able to recruit via bringing in new players. What's the ruddy point of 2 teams playing 45mins each on tues v Newcastle.....why bother going and paying 15 quid if we aren't going to see 60mins plus of what purports to be the main line up for sat honing themselves for the big kick off?! It's a marketing disaster doing that surely?! And the coup de grace.....I sat in the main stand yesterday next to the directors box and it was like watching Wadsworth - no drive, no passion, no purpose from MR. I understand it's pre season, but it's 1 wk from the start and they should be bang at it, chomping at the bit to win and build confidence for the challenges ahead! As it was, ward and Sinnott spent half time doing shin keepy uppys on the touch line and Hammill thought he was at the freestyle Olympics pre match!!!! I sincerely hope he proves us all hopelessly wrong and we have a good season, but at present it doesn't look like it to me. Could not have put it better myself!!
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