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Post by 3Pipe on Sept 2, 2014 15:07:40 GMT 1
Oh i was certanly aware we had signed Hudson when i started this thread but i mentioned the word ( QUALITY ) but soon realised this is a word many on this site do not know the meaning of. What was the edit about then Sugy?
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Post by galpharm2400 on Sept 2, 2014 15:08:11 GMT 1
im waiting for sugys list of centre backs with pace and passing ability that;;
a. we could afford.
b. would have come here.
c. were available anyway.
I will then be happy to discuss their particular merits.
until that time he will have to remain on the ward under close supervision.
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Post by ColchTerrier on Sept 2, 2014 15:08:08 GMT 1
Surely questions need to be asked as to why Town have not brought in a ( quality ) centre back to plug the so obvious ( ongoing ) central defensive failings of last season and surely putting 4 left sided players in the back four against Watford was a statement in itself and a disaster waiting to happen especially against the quality of Troy Deeney and co . Lillis has done a magnificent job in certain parts of the field by turning quantity into quality and arquably this team would now be in the top 8 by now had the central defensive issues been adressed in the close season by those it concerned as what we see now is a total imbalance . I have seen some poor threads on this site before but this one has to take the biscuit. Just what I was about to say. Complete load of bell piece.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2014 15:08:19 GMT 1
Far from it --- Put in google --- Mark Hudson Cardiff City player profile and read . What are the minimum strenths required from what i would describe as a quality CB and certanly not to be a weak tackler and same passing a ball . Name somebody we realistically could have signed who is better, I await your reply.
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Post by ritchie on Sept 2, 2014 15:10:30 GMT 1
My Cardiff friends say --- put ( Mark Hudson ) into google --- and read - Mark Hudson Cardiff City player profile sky sports football . Did some of you arseholes expect the club to sigh a CB whos weaknesses are TACKLING , POOR PASSER OF A BALL AND NOT TO MENTION A LACK OF PACE. Answer my question sugs. would you have been happy with mertesacker?
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Post by goodshot (FGS) on Sept 2, 2014 15:12:20 GMT 1
no pace and cannot pass a ball?? we have pace in the back 4 and as a team we often look very able to compete in this division.. what we clearly lack is organisation and communication, which is what we brought in last night. the myth of the 'ball playing centre back' has been blown out of the water by how many of the clowns got caught with the ball or gave it away for a goal against them during the world cup.. ill take a centre half who defends his own half, not just the penalty box, one who clears it when its needed and one who keeps everyone else involved in defending(not just standing around in our half/penalty box) on their bleeding toes. we have a midfield now that can run, can move and can play a pass , I think all our back 4 can play a simple pass and once encouraged properly to do it quickly we don't need an 'imperious ball playing centre half'... town look great on the ball, pretty much the other day from back to front, we were a bit shit without iut, it needed addressing and this is a good start down that line.. I did say in one thread that I didn't think there was a centre half in the Championship who could physically challenge Deeney - I'd forgotten about Hudson You are absolutely right galpharm we need strength and organisation - blinding pace would be great as well - but there you go.
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Post by Sugy , Paignton Devon Terrier on Sept 2, 2014 15:12:22 GMT 1
Give him a chance and see him with your own eyes before you write him off yourself. there's no point claiming he's shit before he's kicked a ball, in the same vein there is no point proclaiming he's going to be amazing. However all I have heard about him is good things. I like to moan for sake of it sometimes, but you have to put things into perspective. Cardiff probably realised with all the money at their disposal that they can have some centre backs good enough for bottom end of the premiership, this lad sounds like an accomplished championship player. Who said i have wrote Hudson off ?? My point was simply that there are far better quality players available out there whos weaknesses are not tackling and passing as how vital are they in the CB position .
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2014 15:14:40 GMT 1
Give him a chance and see him with your own eyes before you write him off yourself. there's no point claiming he's shit before he's kicked a ball, in the same vein there is no point proclaiming he's going to be amazing. However all I have heard about him is good things. I like to moan for sake of it sometimes, but you have to put things into perspective. Cardiff probably realised with all the money at their disposal that they can have some centre backs good enough for bottom end of the premiership, this lad sounds like an accomplished championship player. Who said i have wrote Hudson off ?? My point was simply that there are far better quality players available out there whos weaknesses are not tackling and passing as how vital are they in the CB position . Name one, just one we could have realistically signed.
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Post by galpharm2400 on Sept 2, 2014 15:15:44 GMT 1
sugy..name the fuckers..give us their availability and their fee and wages..
shit or get off the pot..its getting tedious..
if black is white, argue the point don't just make it..
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Post by Sugy , Paignton Devon Terrier on Sept 2, 2014 15:17:16 GMT 1
Surely questions need to be asked as to why Town have not brought in a ( quality ) centre back to plug the so obvious ( ongoing ) central defensive failings of last season and surely putting 4 left sided players in the back four against Watford was a statement in itself and a disaster waiting to happen especially against the quality of Troy Deeney and co . Lillis has done a magnificent job in certain parts of the field by turning quantity into quality and arquably this team would now be in the top 8 by now had the central defensive issues been adressed in the close season by those it concerned as what we see now is a total imbalance . I have seen some poor threads on this site before but this one has to take the biscuit. I should have realised that not many on here know the actual meaning of the word QUALITY and sadly who think a weakness in tackling and passing the ball in the CB position are standard at Huddersfield Town
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Post by ritchie on Sept 2, 2014 15:18:26 GMT 1
Give him a chance and see him with your own eyes before you write him off yourself. there's no point claiming he's shit before he's kicked a ball, in the same vein there is no point proclaiming he's going to be amazing. However all I have heard about him is good things. I like to moan for sake of it sometimes, but you have to put things into perspective. Cardiff probably realised with all the money at their disposal that they can have some centre backs good enough for bottom end of the premiership, this lad sounds like an accomplished championship player. Who said i have wrote Hudson off ?? My point was simply that there are far better quality players available out there whos weaknesses are not tackling and passing as how vital are they in the CB position . So now you're going with the poor at tackling angle because you read it on sky sports lee peltier has pace, a decent pass (for a cb) and a pretty strong tackle - does that make him a better cb than hudson? of course it fucking doesnt.
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Post by Sugy , Paignton Devon Terrier on Sept 2, 2014 15:19:53 GMT 1
Oh i was certanly aware we had signed Hudson when i started this thread but i mentioned the word ( QUALITY ) but soon realised this is a word many on this site do not know the meaning of. What was the edit about then Sugy? Had to highlight the word (Quality) just for the blind or idiots who missread my thread
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Post by goodshot (FGS) on Sept 2, 2014 15:22:20 GMT 1
What was the edit about then Sugy? Had to highlight the word (Quality) just for the blind or idiots who missread my thread Quality riposte.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2014 15:25:27 GMT 1
Give him a chance and see him with your own eyes before you write him off yourself. there's no point claiming he's shit before he's kicked a ball, in the same vein there is no point proclaiming he's going to be amazing. However all I have heard about him is good things. I like to moan for sake of it sometimes, but you have to put things into perspective. Cardiff probably realised with all the money at their disposal that they can have some centre backs good enough for bottom end of the premiership, this lad sounds like an accomplished championship player. Who said i have wrote Hudson off ?? My point was simply that there are far better quality players available out there whos weaknesses are not tackling and passing as how vital are they in the CB position . Apologies if I misread, like previously stated though, who are these better quality CB's that are available? It seems you conveniently ignore these posts
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Post by Sugy , Paignton Devon Terrier on Sept 2, 2014 15:26:18 GMT 1
Who said i have wrote Hudson off ?? My point was simply that there are far better quality players available out there whos weaknesses are not tackling and passing as how vital are they in the CB position . Name one, just one we could have realistically signed. Do you mean a defender who lacks pace and weaknesses are not tackling and passing a ball ?? get real
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Post by AndySk on Sept 2, 2014 15:27:00 GMT 1
Ahh how quickly a thread can go from funny to sad to worrying
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2014 15:28:00 GMT 1
I have seen some poor threads on this site before but this one has to take the biscuit. I should have realised that not many on here know the actual meaning of the word QUALITY and sadly who think a weakness in tackling and passing the ball in the CB position are standard at Huddersfield Town This thread is the absolute perfect example of what Hoyle was complaining about. People who are ultra negative about Town off no matter what it is. People who write players off without giving them a chance, that threaten never go to a game again if a certain manager is appointed. It truly is pathetic. I am not saying you can not criticize but give people a fucking chance for gods sake. A player who has played at a higher level than Town recently. Captain and back bone of a promotion team. Solid organizer that we have been missing but according to you he is shit. I have a sister that is ultra negative and I rarely talk to her because it drags you down. I think I may have found her soul mate.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2014 15:30:07 GMT 1
I don't know a quality CB when I see one, but I sure as hell know a quality poster on DATM.... Comedy gold. Why the hell didn't we sign Rio Ferdinand? Come on Dean, explain yourself!
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Post by Sugy , Paignton Devon Terrier on Sept 2, 2014 15:31:30 GMT 1
I should have realised that not many on here know the actual meaning of the word QUALITY and sadly who think a weakness in tackling and passing the ball in the CB position are standard at Huddersfield Town This thread is the absolute perfect example of what Hoyle was complaining about. People who are ultra negative about Town off no matter what it is. People who write players off without giving them a chance, that threaten never go to a game again if a certain manager is appointed. It truly is pathetic. I am not saying you can not criticize but give people a fucking chance for gods sake. A player who has played at a higher level than Town recently. Captain and back bone of a promotion team. Solid organizer that we have been missing but according to you he is shit. I have a sister that is ultra negative and I rarely talk to her because it drags you down. I think I may have found her soul mate. Negative -- Town have signed a defender whos weaknessed are tackling and passing the ball and you would describe that as being negative ??
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2014 15:32:25 GMT 1
Name one, just one we could have realistically signed. Do you mean a defender whos weaknesses are not tackling and passing a ball ?? get real Me get real?? Ritchie asked you if Per Mertesacker the German world cup winning Arsenal centre half would do for you, you haven't answered him, would that be because the Sky Sports site you swear by has him down as "weak in the tackle"?
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Post by Grandfather Berty of Cleck on Sept 2, 2014 15:33:44 GMT 1
This thread is the absolute perfect example of what Hoyle was complaining about. People who are ultra negative about Town off no matter what it is. People who write players off without giving them a chance, that threaten never go to a game again if a certain manager is appointed. It truly is pathetic. I am not saying you can not criticize but give people a fucking chance for gods sake. A player who has played at a higher level than Town recently. Captain and back bone of a promotion team. Solid organizer that we have been missing but according to you he is shit. I have a sister that is ultra negative and I rarely talk to her because it drags you down. I think I may have found her soul mate. Negative -- Town have signed a defender whos weaknessed are tackling and passing the ball and thats negative ?? I'm not sure he would have played almost 300 Championship games, been promoted to the premier, and won Cardiff's player of the season if he couldn't tackle.
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Post by Sugy , Paignton Devon Terrier on Sept 2, 2014 15:35:02 GMT 1
Do you mean a defender whos weaknesses are not tackling and passing a ball ?? get real Me get real?? Ritchie asked you if Per Mertesacker the German world cup winning Arsenal centre half would do for you, you haven't answered him, would that be because the Sky Sports site you swear by has him down as "poor in the tackle"? Just a defender whos weaknesses are not a lack of pace, tackling and passing the ball.
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Post by kautostar1 on Sept 2, 2014 15:40:59 GMT 1
Give him a chance and see him with your own eyes before you write him off yourself. there's no point claiming he's shit before he's kicked a ball, in the same vein there is no point proclaiming he's going to be amazing. However all I have heard about him is good things. I like to moan for sake of it sometimes, but you have to put things into perspective. Cardiff probably realised with all the money at their disposal that they can have some centre backs good enough for bottom end of the premiership, this lad sounds like an accomplished championship player. Who said i have wrote Hudson off ?? My point was simply that there are far better quality players available out there whos weaknesses are not tackling and passing as how vital are they in the CB position . Names please.
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Post by ruud1boy on Sept 2, 2014 15:41:19 GMT 1
Sugy - do yourself a favour and quit while you're behind. The only positive thing that's come of this thread is that there are now many more people other than me who think you're an utter clown. How can you possibly dismiss a new Town signing (who has been made captain at each of his last 3 clubs) without even seeing him play? This is a new low, even for you.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2014 15:42:35 GMT 1
Me get real?? Ritchie asked you if Per Mertesacker the German world cup winning Arsenal centre half would do for you, you haven't answered him, would that be because the Sky Sports site you swear by has him down as "poor in the tackle"? Just a defender whos weaknesses are not a lack of pace, tackling and passing the ball. So Mertesacker not good enough then.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2014 15:44:04 GMT 1
Sugy, do you not feel even slightly daft continually claiming a player's weakness is lack of pace, tackling and passing that you've never seen play? I know it says it on Sky Sports, but if that was in any way accurate we wouldn't have been having all these problems offloading Paterson.
Out of interest, in your "52 years a fan", which centre backs have you rated?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2014 15:45:17 GMT 1
Sugy, stop being a bell, go to the fridge, get a can of lager, sit down and enjoy it.
You're talking some right bollocks on this thread, and making yourself look like a retard.
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Post by kautostar1 on Sept 2, 2014 15:48:45 GMT 1
Sugy, stop being a bell, go to the fridge, get a can of lager, sit down and enjoy it. You're talking some right bollocks on this thread, and making yourself look like a retard.
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Post by triggerboo on Sept 2, 2014 15:52:24 GMT 1
Come on fella give us a name just one name who you think town could have realistically signed instead? Please just one
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Post by DannyG on Sept 2, 2014 15:52:59 GMT 1
I'm printing this thread out, putting it in a time-capsule and burying it in my back garden... just so that when aliens dig it up in thousands of years time, they can enjoy it, too.
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