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Sept 14, 2014 13:44:53 GMT 1
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Post by C.H on Sept 14, 2014 13:44:53 GMT 1
Who said on here they didn't want jack hunt or he wouldn't play??
Now we have lee peltier
Jack hunt would have loved him back!!
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Sept 14, 2014 13:47:45 GMT 1
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Post by Sio on Sept 14, 2014 13:47:45 GMT 1
Didn't realise Hunt played centre mid.
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Post by shawsie on Sept 14, 2014 13:47:56 GMT 1
Who said on here they didn't want jack hunt or he wouldn't play?? Now we have lee peltier Jack hunt would have loved him back!! Remind me who played right back yesterday?! It wasnt the new scapegoat peltier thats for sure. Jack hunt wanted to leave....move on!
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Post by C.H on Sept 14, 2014 13:50:07 GMT 1
Didn't realise Hunt played centre mid. Who will be right back when smith gets Injured lee peltier or not?
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Sept 14, 2014 13:50:27 GMT 1
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Post by C.H on Sept 14, 2014 13:50:27 GMT 1
Who said on here they didn't want jack hunt or he wouldn't play?? Now we have lee peltier Jack hunt would have loved him back!! Remind me who played right back yesterday?! It wasnt the new scapegoat peltier thats for sure. Jack hunt wanted to leave....move on! Yeah smith who gave away a poor pen
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Post by ritchie on Sept 14, 2014 13:55:28 GMT 1
Who said on here they didn't want jack hunt or he wouldn't play?? Now we have lee peltier Jack hunt would have loved him back!! jackass, because hunt's a little shit
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Sept 14, 2014 14:02:53 GMT 1
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Post by Sio on Sept 14, 2014 14:02:53 GMT 1
Didn't realise Hunt played centre mid. Who will be right back when smith gets Injured lee peltier or not? Well yes, but that's what happens with backup replacements, they tend to be not as good as your first choice. Pelts is a fairly solid right back at this level. Centre mid? Rubbish.
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Post by showaddywaddywaddy on Sept 14, 2014 14:17:37 GMT 1
I predict Dixon will be transferred to Derby in the next transfer window, storm into the Premier and we can have a season of threads talking about him doing well for a different club. I also predict that within 4 matches, Hudson will be captain and Peltier told to play right back and bomb down the flank firing shots and crosses in like he did back in the day. I predict we'll have a beast of a striker on loan who bullies defenders, a modern day Euell or Fuller.. and makes room for Nakhi to manouvre. Never been a fan of loans in football, but I thank god for them now.. we are a jigsaw, a fairly poor one admittedly, but one that just needs the main pieces finding, and then we can start to see a picture.
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Post by rothwellterrier on Sept 14, 2014 15:18:29 GMT 1
Just said on the Forest v Derby match that they compete for the "Brian Clough trophy" whenever they meet. Are we missing a trick here in West Yorkshire? How about the Neil Parsley trophy being up for grabs next week
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Post by impact on Sept 14, 2014 16:03:52 GMT 1
Having seen him play for Forest today we really miss his crosses. Some cracking balls put in.
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Post by Porrohman on Sept 14, 2014 16:53:17 GMT 1
Having seen him play for Forest today we really miss his crosses. Some cracking balls put in. 5lives commentator and Lennon were bulling him up this afternoon Sent from my GT-I9505 using proboards
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Sept 14, 2014 18:16:06 GMT 1
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2014 18:16:06 GMT 1
Terrific crosser but he c*nted dean off and burnt his bridges. Will go on to have a decent career at this level or low end prem if he gets his head down under Pearce.
Both have moved on.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2014 18:30:23 GMT 1
I predict Dixon will be transferred to Derby in the next transfer window, storm into the Premier and we can have a season of threads talking about him doing well for a different club. I also predict that within 4 matches, Hudson will be captain and Peltier told to play right back and bomb down the flank firing shots and crosses in like he did back in the day. I predict we'll have a beast of a striker on loan who bullies defenders, a modern day Euell or Fuller.. and makes room for Nakhi to manouvre. Never been a fan of loans in football, but I thank god for them now.. we are a jigsaw, a fairly poor one admittedly, but one that just needs the main pieces finding, and then we can start to see a picture. Peltier didn't use to bomb down the wing putting crosses in. He was a defensive full back.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2014 18:56:57 GMT 1
Just said on the Forest v Derby match that they compete for the "Brian Clough trophy" whenever they meet. Are we missing a trick here in West Yorkshire? How about the Neil Parsley trophy being up for grabs next week Or the Herbert Chapman trophy, as he managed Town and Leeds, but not sure what this has to do with the thread.
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Sept 14, 2014 19:13:38 GMT 1
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Post by terriersyndrome on Sept 14, 2014 19:13:38 GMT 1
Who said on here they didn't want jack hunt or he wouldn't play?? Now we have lee peltier Jack hunt would have loved him back!! I'm sure Hunt & Palace saw Forest as a better move, so what makes you think we could have got him even if we wanted him? Peltier & Smith are decent RB's at this level. Let's not forget Peltier was Forests 1st choice, but he wanted to come back here.. Give him chance to play in his natural position before you start scapegoating him.
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Sept 14, 2014 19:59:35 GMT 1
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Post by hypotenuse on Sept 14, 2014 19:59:35 GMT 1
Jack Hunt - great going forward, desperately poor defensively. Personally thought Calim Woods was excellent for us defensively. If Smith not RB, Powell May put Robinson there with Dixon at left back as at Watford.
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Post by Captainslapper on Sept 14, 2014 20:18:57 GMT 1
Hunt was never desperately poor defensively. Its one of those things people say almost like its fashionable but in reality its total bollocks. he probably had a poor game defensively when he first broke through and then that was that- no amount of progress after that was going to change peoples mind. people just trotted it out- "Oh yes, good going forward but can't defend." Full backs who can't defend aren't often bought for £2m and then snapped up by managers like pearce who might know a thing or two about the position!
No idea what went on between him and the club, but its a shame he isn't still here because he was quality and a major attacking weapon and assist maker. peltier is a steady full back but the worst part of his game by a long way was his crossing. Would get forward into good positions but the cross would inevitably be woeful.
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Post by hypotenuse on Sept 14, 2014 20:24:01 GMT 1
Captainslapper - if you look at his performance against Wigan in the Cup 18 months ago against a good winger - mcmanaman- you could see that he wouldn't cope at a higher level. If you ever watch that game again, Mcmanaman switched wings after an hour and never got past Woods once
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Sept 14, 2014 20:24:13 GMT 1
Hunt was never desperately poor defensively. Its one of those things people say almost like its fashionable but in reality its total bollocks. he probably had a poor game defensively when he first broke through and then that was that- no amount of progress after that was going to change peoples mind. people just trotted it out- "Oh yes, good going forward but can't defend." Full backs who can't defend aren't often bought for £2m and then snapped up by managers like pearce who might know a thing or two about the position! No idea what went on between him and the club, but its a shame he isn't still here because he was quality and a major attacking weapon and assist maker. peltier is a steady full back but the worst part of his game by a long way was his crossing. Would get forward into good positions but the cross would inevitably be woeful. Spot on!
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Sept 14, 2014 22:37:12 GMT 1
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Post by impact on Sept 14, 2014 22:37:12 GMT 1
Captainslapper - if you look at his performance against Wigan in the Cup 18 months ago against a good winger - mcmanaman- you could see that he wouldn't cope at a higher level. If you ever watch that game again, Mcmanaman switched wings after an hour and never got past Woods once So you're basing this on one game against a very good winger playing a blinder? If so, how would you explain his performance vs a better team in Arsenal? Does that mean he should be playing for a top 3 club?
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Post by Captainslapper on Sept 14, 2014 23:08:50 GMT 1
Captainslapper - if you look at his performance against Wigan in the Cup 18 months ago against a good winger - mcmanaman- you could see that he wouldn't cope at a higher level. If you ever watch that game again, Mcmanaman switched wings after an hour and never got past Woods once I liked Woods by the way. Thought we should have kept him. Hunt had a torrid time against McManaman in that game. It was a steep learning curve for him against a player who was close to an england call up at the time. But you can't judge him on one game. defensively hed improved no end from when he first got into the team, yet this 'can't defend' tag never budged.
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Sept 14, 2014 23:14:28 GMT 1
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Post by thehitcher on Sept 14, 2014 23:14:28 GMT 1
Not many were saying wish he was here when he was at barnsley, where he finished off on their bench
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Post by galpharm2400 on Sept 15, 2014 0:37:37 GMT 1
simple you really need 11 lads who want to play for you as a manager/fan or owner.. if you have someone who is being difficult or has lost 'interest' then he goes.
they are adults doing a job of work and they get to give their views to the manager and if they cant compromise and move on, they get moved on.
some adults can work well even if they are unhappy or discontented, unfortunately footballers don't often come into that category, they want the money or the move or their own way, now.
knowing someone who worked 'with hunt' and hearing that even for a footballer he was a complete twat, then his leaving for a goodly sum does not trouble me in the slightest.
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Post by goodshot (FGS) on Sept 15, 2014 0:47:34 GMT 1
Hunt was never desperately poor defensively. Its one of those things people say almost like its fashionable but in reality its total bollocks. he probably had a poor game defensively when he first broke through and then that was that- no amount of progress after that was going to change peoples mind. people just trotted it out- "Oh yes, good going forward but can't defend." Full backs who can't defend aren't often bought for £2m and then snapped up by managers like pearce who might know a thing or two about the position! No idea what went on between him and the club, but its a shame he isn't still here because he was quality and a major attacking weapon and assist maker. peltier is a steady full back but the worst part of his game by a long way was his crossing. Would get forward into good positions but the cross would inevitably be woeful. I thought he could be quite poor defensively, mainly because he didn't have much upper body strength and got bumped off too easily. However, he was very decent for Forest today both defensively and attack wise. He looks to have strengthened up a bit, is a bit more mature and not over committing himself, and looks better now than when he was with us. Good on him after that leg break.
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Post by midlander on Sept 15, 2014 0:47:29 GMT 1
Hunt can also bomb on at Forest with much greater security, as he has a very solid spine of a side to shore up the holes his runs leave. George Friend played like a left winger yesterday, because the Middlesborough defensive unit were so in control and he was able to neglect any defensive duties. Jack Hunt in a dominant side is a massive asset. Jack Hunt at right back in the current Town team would be nowhere near as effective as he is at Forest and would be tested far more defensively. His best form for us was when we had a side that was better than the majority at our level. For us, in our current situation, I don't think he'd be massively more effective than Smith. Not saying I don't rate him, because I do - but being in a good side, enables him to fulfil his potential.
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Post by goodshot (FGS) on Sept 15, 2014 0:49:48 GMT 1
Captainslapper - if you look at his performance against Wigan in the Cup 18 months ago against a good winger - mcmanaman- you could see that he wouldn't cope at a higher level. If you ever watch that game again, Mcmanaman switched wings after an hour and never got past Woods once He was poor in that game but he was badly exposed by those in front and along side him. Peltier and Smith would have been shredded in that position as well. He did have quite a lot of poor defensive games but how we miss him going forward.
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Post by hypotenuse on Sept 15, 2014 8:15:37 GMT 1
Agree about going forward but we need a really secure defence now Wigan game was one example among many. His positioning was poor and he lost concentration easily. Here is another example - Leeds equaliser at Elland Road in 2012/13. Maybe he needed better coaching?
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Post by Captainslapper on Sept 15, 2014 8:44:58 GMT 1
Isn't that a bit like picking out a Jordan Rhodes miss in a certain game to come to the conclusion he couldn't finish?
The wigan game was one example amongst ONE where he was consistantly bettered by his winger from my recollection. My over-riding memory is of a lad who was generally difficult to get past despite his youth and slight frame. Yes, there'll be incidents where a cross came in from his side that he didn't manage to block, but Id like to know a full back at any level who you can't say that about.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2014 9:44:28 GMT 1
Isn't that a bit like picking out a Jordan Rhodes miss in a certain game to come to the conclusion he couldn't finish? The wigan game was one example amongst ONE where he was consistantly bettered by his winger from my recollection. My over-riding memory is of a lad who was generally difficult to get past despite his youth and slight frame. Yes, there'll be incidents where a cross came in from his side that he didn't manage to block, but Id like to know a full back at any level who you can't say that about. I think a lot of it is down to Town fans historically liking a gung ho tackler in defence. Hunt did a lot of good defensive work staying on his feet, preventing the attacker from getting the ball inside, and then working collectively (with Ward amongst others) to nick the ball or force the mistake. That he wasnt lunging in, meant we often had nice little triangles to recover the ball and safely get it clear. Not much wrong with him defensively, other than a tendency to sometimes get caught wrong side of the wide attacker.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2014 10:00:03 GMT 1
Isn't that a bit like picking out a Jordan Rhodes miss in a certain game to come to the conclusion he couldn't finish? The wigan game was one example amongst ONE where he was consistantly bettered by his winger from my recollection. My over-riding memory is of a lad who was generally difficult to get past despite his youth and slight frame. Yes, there'll be incidents where a cross came in from his side that he didn't manage to block, but Id like to know a full back at any level who you can't say that about. Last week you claimed that Smithies only made one mistake which cost us a goal in our first season back in this division, this week you've claimed that Hunt was only consistently bettered by his winger once?! I've generally been agreeing with your wider points... Smithies does get some unjust criticism and Hunt wasn't as bad as some claim defensively, however, it doesn't help your argument to come out with ludicrous statements. In the 6-1 at Forest, Hunt was tormented by Andy Reid, so we're up to at least two without even trying. How many times did Hunt play against that Zoko guy at Carlisle? Didn't a couple of their players take the piss out of Hunt on Twitter after one particularly abysmal showing against Zoko?
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