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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2014 22:45:36 GMT 1
... if the FA find him guilty of racism and punish him. LINKAs a friend said this afternoon, if Whelan and Mackay survive, Wigan could be the perfect club for Ched Evans.
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Post by specialone on Nov 22, 2014 22:52:22 GMT 1
Salt of the Earth is Dave Whelan, but as for Vincent Tan, I think I know who passes the fit and proper persons test!
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Nov 22, 2014 22:53:12 GMT 1
Do people sit around analysing everything everybody days nowadays. Fuck me, have people nowt else better to do? 'oh no you can't say that'.
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Post by Stavros on Nov 22, 2014 22:57:11 GMT 1
He's a 77 year old man who said one thing that he'd like to take back. In my opinion he's a good guy and I hope this blows over for him.
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Post by specialone on Nov 22, 2014 23:01:19 GMT 1
His 'crime' is to lack media training ie to respond to media questions with a sanitised, anodyne collection of words which says nothing and offends nobody. What's wrong with offending people, especially those who are offended on behalf of someone else.
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Post by Spunker on Nov 22, 2014 23:02:58 GMT 1
It's unbelievable how sensitive people are. Until a Chink comes out offended, it shouldn't be an issue. And what he said about Jews is true; control and money. Call me a Brit or a honkey, I don't give a fuck because I'm not insecure.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2014 23:35:03 GMT 1
hes an old man,why should he change,hes been on this earth a lot longer than the cnts who are moaning about it,i think older people should be given a bit of leeway,he may be a bit of a tit,but hes from an age when chinks were called chinks ect,,give older people a break they will all be dead soon,then all the silly younger twats with nowt better to do than whine about politicaly correct shite can have there own way,the world is turning into a right pansy puff place,the marshians will knock fuck out of us when they come,,,easily
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2014 23:40:01 GMT 1
hes an old man,why should he change,hes been on this earth a lot longer than the cnts who are moaning about it,i think older people should be given a bit of leeway,he may be a bit of a tit,but hes from an age when chinks were called chinks ect,,give older people a break they will all be dead soon,then all the silly younger twats with nowt better to do than whine about politicaly correct shite can have there own way,the world is turning into a right pansy puff place, the marshians will knock fuck out of us when they come,,,easilyAren't Marshians meant to be mellow?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2014 23:54:31 GMT 1
hes an old man,why should he change,hes been on this earth a lot longer than the cnts who are moaning about it,i think older people should be given a bit of leeway,he may be a bit of a tit,but hes from an age when chinks were called chinks ect,,give older people a break they will all be dead soon,then all the silly younger twats with nowt better to do than whine about politicaly correct shite can have there own way,the world is turning into a right pansy puff place, the marshians will knock fuck out of us when they come,,,easilyAren't Marshians meant to be mellow? did I mean martians?
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Post by thrice on Nov 23, 2014 0:05:09 GMT 1
If folk want to hammer him they should at least put what he said into context or better still report it in full.
This was not an old boy just slipping a 'chink' & a bit of 'anti-semitism' into an APOLOGY.
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Post by otium (EPBS) on Nov 23, 2014 0:14:40 GMT 1
I call them Tiddleys, always have and always will, i make jokes about the meanness of Jocks (and Swedes) and if you know your European history (and World) you will know that Jews were moneylenders, business people and today property magnates. Money (and the Talmud) rock their world. You cant speak today without offending someone. Non-story and the BBC should be ashamed. Sticks and stones.
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Nov 23, 2014 0:25:05 GMT 1
What the fuck has this got to do with the BBC ?
The BBC getting the blame for everything really gets on my tit ends
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Post by terracefan on Nov 23, 2014 2:19:28 GMT 1
The marsh ones are quiet friendly in my time .
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Post by kennyk2 on Nov 23, 2014 7:55:32 GMT 1
I call them Tiddleys, always have and always will, i make jokes about the meanness of Jocks (and Swedes) and if you know your European history (and World) you will know that Jews were moneylenders, business people and today property magnates. Money (and the Talmud) rock their world. You cant speak today without offending someone. Non-story and the BBC should be ashamed.Sticks and stones. Quite right. Subjective news agendas driven by managers who have a self-serving bias and who pander to the belief that they are the new liberal elite, when in fact they are nothing but pseudo-socialists.
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Post by kennyk2 on Nov 23, 2014 8:44:39 GMT 1
Salt of the Earth is Dave Whelan, but as for Vincent Tan, I think I know who passes the fit and proper persons test! Oh the irony!
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Post by johnny_b on Nov 23, 2014 10:19:18 GMT 1
Do people sit around analysing everything everybody days nowadays. Fuck me, have people nowt else better to do? 'oh no you can't say that'. I'm afraid it has come to that. Another thing, after a really good England performance against Scotland the BBC coverage of the after match press conference with Roy Hodgson, Ted, chose to focus on an alleged anti-IRA chant by the England fans. It was almost as if they were demanding an apology from Hodgson for said chant. It simply wouldn't do for them to see a good performance from ENGLAND and to praise them for the way they went about the game, they just had to find a 'negative' and put the focus on that. I didn't hear it myself but I do know the chant but what about the 'Cheer up Gordon Strachan' song that went on for about 10 minutes? No complaints from the 'shit Scottish bastard' there. Strachan would probably have laughed it off if asked if it caused offence.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2014 10:26:25 GMT 1
It's just like this forum.loads on here can't wait to be offended and look like they are perfect citizens
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Post by kennyk2 on Nov 23, 2014 10:36:38 GMT 1
Do people sit around analysing everything everybody days nowadays. Fuck me, have people nowt else better to do? 'oh no you can't say that'. I'm afraid it has come to that. Another thing, after a really good England performance against Scotland the BBC coverage of the after match press conference with Roy Hodgson, Ted, chose to focus on an alleged anti-IRA chant by the England fans. It was almost as if they were demanding an apology from Hodgson for said chant. It simply wouldn't do for them to see a good performance from ENGLAND and to praise them for the way they went about the game, they just had to find a 'negative' and put the focus on that. I didn't hear it myself but I do know the chant but what about the 'Cheer up Gordon Strachan' song that went on for about 10 minutes? No complaints from the 'shit Scottish bastard' there. Strachan would probably have laughed it off if asked if it caused offence. I would question whether this really is news. Pro-IRA chants by England supporters - now that I would regard as newsworthy!
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Nov 23, 2014 11:05:13 GMT 1
I like Dave Whelan .. I think he is one of football's decent guys... However he has a mouth which runs away with itself... At least Malky can see what a shitstorm he has created and went on at length about " diversity training" and being apologetic ... So big Dave decides to take a shitstorm and turn it into a mega shitstorm.. What a plank... Someone needs to take him to one side and tell him to leave the press conferences to someone else. The FA should charge him with monumental stupidity.
Yet again on DATM lots of white British males line up shouting off about people's faux moral outrage. Not quite understanding that actually, people do get offended and upset by this nonsense.. When David Gold was interviewed he was genuinely shocked and upset.. He really liked uncle Dave and seemed really uncomfortable with his stereotypical Jew nonsense... I wasn't " offended" but David Gold, who understands the historical element and pernicious underlying thrust of stereotyping, has every right to be.
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Post by rocky on Nov 23, 2014 11:15:05 GMT 1
It's unbelievable how sensitive people are. Until a Chink comes out offended, it shouldn't be an issue. And what he said about Jews is true; control and money. Call me a Brit or a honkey, I don't give a fuck because I'm not insecure. Completely agree your point mate. I don't think it's anything to do with insecurity though - I think it's just the modern way to be massively offended by something trivial. My god, a Chinese person referred to as a Chink, how on earth will they get through the day?
Yet another absolutely pathetic example of PC bullshit at work.
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Post by Captainslapper on Nov 23, 2014 11:32:14 GMT 1
Don't have a problem with stereotyping Ted. Its the basis of so much humour. mother in laws are dragons, the French always , black guys are well hung, Yanks ( is that still pc?) are fat and stupid, Scots are tight , irish are thick, swedes are all sex maniacs, the spanish laze about in the sun all day, scousers are thieves etc etc The one I particularly like is that bald men are more virile! people get sick and tired of people being offended all the time. Theyve been coached to do so. Or theyve been coached to do so on someone else behalf. So jews have a stereotype of being successful profit driven businessmen? So what, theres elements of truth in that as there are in all stereotypes. Whelen's stupid to mention it knowing there will be so many waiting for the opportunity to be 'hurt' by his words, id agree with that. As for us white british males, maybe we should get on board with the delicate flowers? Next time I see Monty Pythons 4 Yorkshiremen sketch, stereotyping all yorkshiremen as brash, pompous, bullshitting loud mouths, Im going to be deeply offended from now on. But of course being white british male, there won't be anyone even thinking about being offended on our behalf, so we may be on our own on that one.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2014 11:34:57 GMT 1
FA should punish him just to see if he sticks to his word
He won't
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2014 11:36:32 GMT 1
Funny or offensive
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2014 11:40:27 GMT 1
Chinky is not a race its a type of food....had one on Friday very nice
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Post by Captainslapper on Nov 23, 2014 11:46:37 GMT 1
Funny because they're white mel is the simple answer. Russell Howard- as fanatically PC a comedian as there is, is fine to do sketches of scandinavians being naked sex obsessed weirdos. Nowt wrong with that cos its funny. No offence there. Thats the difference.
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Nov 23, 2014 11:47:29 GMT 1
Don't have a problem with stereotyping Ted. Its the basis of so much humour. mother in laws are dragons, the French always , black guys are well hung, Yanks ( is that still pc?) are fat and stupid, Scots are tight , irish are thick, swedes are all sex maniacs, the spanish laze about in the sun all day, scousers are thieves etc etc The one I particularly like is that bald men are more virile! people get sick and tired of people being offended all the time. Theyve been coached to do so. Or theyve been coached to do so on someone else behalf. So jews have a stereotype of being successful profit driven businessmen? So what, theres elements of truth in that as there are in all stereotypes. Whelen's stupid to mention it knowing there will be so many waiting for the opportunity to be 'hurt' by his words, id agree with that. As for us white british males, maybe we should get on board with the delicate flowers? Next time I see Monty Pythons 4 Yorkshiremen sketch, stereotyping all yorkshiremen as brash, pompous, bullshitting loud mouths, Im going to be deeply offended from now on. But of course being white british male, there won't be anyone even thinking about being offended on our behalf, so we may be on our own on that one. Am scouring the history books for evidence of Yorkshiremen being sent to the gas chambers for being Yorkshire. Definitely with you re bald guys though. Bald is beautiful
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2014 11:50:11 GMT 1
Russell Howard has never been funny. I'm more offended by that idea than all these insults about the slopes and the kikes.
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Nov 23, 2014 11:52:07 GMT 1
Russell Howard has never been funny. I'm more offended by that idea than all these insults about the slopes and the kikes. Russell Howard.. Fanatically Persistently Crap
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2014 11:56:38 GMT 1
Dave Whelans comments have no relevance to people dying in gas chambers Ted. If we want to be offended as Northerners just go back to the miners strike and we can involve that in any debate throw our arms in the air and start shouting about references of northern monkeys.
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Post by artysid on Nov 23, 2014 11:57:22 GMT 1
Don't have a problem with stereotyping Ted. Its the basis of so much humour. mother in laws are dragons, the French always , black guys are well hung, Yanks ( is that still pc?) are fat and stupid, Scots are tight , irish are thick, swedes are all sex maniacs, the spanish laze about in the sun all day, scousers are thieves etc etc The one I particularly like is that bald men are more virile! people get sick and tired of people being offended all the time. Theyve been coached to do so. Or theyve been coached to do so on someone else behalf. So jews have a stereotype of being successful profit driven businessmen? So what, theres elements of truth in that as there are in all stereotypes. Whelen's stupid to mention it knowing there will be so many waiting for the opportunity to be 'hurt' by his words, id agree with that. As for us white british males, maybe we should get on board with the delicate flowers? Next time I see Monty Pythons 4 Yorkshiremen sketch, stereotyping all yorkshiremen as brash, pompous, bullshitting loud mouths, Im going to be deeply offended from now on. But of course being white british male, there won't be anyone even thinking about being offended on our behalf, so we may be on our own on that one. I've never met Slapps, but I'm beginning to get a picture of what he might look like ...... and how he sees himself
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