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Post by 52bob on Jan 25, 2015 15:05:51 GMT 1
A leeds fan offers his 'congrats' to the bantams and a reminder of where our close neighbours please themselves in their very own universe.
Extracted from rob lufc.org
It’s been a pretty good year so far in the domestic cups, for some of Yorkshire’s minnow teams. Sheffield United, the Brave Little Blunts of Bramall Lane, are in the League Cup semis (don’t ask me to remember the sponsors, for heavens’ sake). In the same competition, Bradford City enjoyed one of their finest hours in an earlier round, with an only slightly fortuitous win over our own beloved ten-man Leeds United, celestially anointed Kings of the Broad Acres. Even poor old Sheffield Wendies managed to keep the aggregate tally against them down to single figures in losing twice in two competitions at Manchester City.
In the FA Cup, even more than usually for such a notoriously minnow-friendly institution, this was a weekend of genuine shocks, all over the shop. Again, Yorkshire’s tiddler clubs were to the fore in the tragic but not unexpected absence of Super Leeds – who had reprised their 1973 defeat at the hands of the Dirty Mackems, first time of asking. So it was left to the little guys again, the Blunts for one; they will take Simon Grayson’s Preston to a replay in Sheffield (good luck, SG).
Without any doubt at all though, the star turns of this 4th round so far are those battling Bantams from Valley Parade. In a performance they must treasure nearly as much as beating Leeds for the first time since the end of rationing, they went down to London and bearded the English title favourites Chelsea in their own lair. Feinting craftily to go two behind and thus lull the Rentboys into a false sense of half-time security, they emerged from their interval cuppas to seize the game by the throat – and proceeded mercilessly to throttle Jose’s troops to death with a four goal salvo that quite simply took their beastly breath away.
Last year’s League Cup Final achievement ended amusingly in a highly creditable (if you listened to the media) 0-5 defeat for the ten-man Bantams at the hands of Swansea City – who spent most of their time that Wembley afternoon trying to look as if it wasn’t just too, too easy. After a result like their defeat of Chelsea, though – where they made a whole nation laugh themselves weak-bladdered by slaying a far better team – plucky Bratfud must fancy their chances of at least matching last season’s feat. Maybe they can even cherish hopes of improving on it, by holding out for a 0-3 Final defeat against a Liverpool or a Palace or similar. Less of a thrashing against more illustrious opponents – that’d be progress. And you never know – it could happen.
Watching the richly comic spectacle of Mourinho’s Millionaires buckle and collapse against a genuine two-bob West Yorkshire pub team, it was impossible – despite the vitriolic hatred all Bratfud fans nurse in their bosoms where Super Leeds are concerned – quite impossible not to share in the joy and the laughter. After all, this was Chelsea, worshippers at the Altar of Mammon, for whom no trophy is beyond their Mafia-funded purse, stumbling to utter, shambolic humiliation against the rankest of rank paupers – whose team cost precisely zilch. It was beyond funny and, in the midst of all that comedy and Schadenfreude, it’s really easy to forget such little local difficulties as Bratfud’s Leeds United complex.
Anyway, as any knowledgeable Leeds fan will confirm, and as those few Bratfud fans who don’t exist in a state of permanent denial will admit, the Bantams/Whites hate affair is strictly a one-way street. We’ve always been the chip on their bitterly resentful shoulder – but, historically, we’ve had bigger, uglier, much more intrinsically detestable fish to fry. Leeds have never really gone in for hating on spurious grounds of mere proximity – it’s a sterile waste of time and passion. So, from our point of view, we have no real local rivalry, whereas every little club in Yorkshire (and elsewhere, it should be said) cordially, rabidly detests Leeds United. ‘Twas ever thus and, doubtless, ’twill ever be.
The best we can really do for those Bratfud fans who so desperately wish us to reciprocate their passionate and unrequited hatred is – well, to condescend to be pleased for them for a time, when a day like this Chelsea tie rolls around. And – as good, God-fearing, Chelsea-hating Leeds United fans – we are pleased for them. Very pleased. Really we are. It stands to reason. And besides, the Bantams actually deserved their victory, certainly far more than the faintly lucky Middlesbrough side did at Man City. It has indeed been Cup Shock Saturday, with big, shiny bells on.
So – Bradford march proudly on, perhaps even unto another deeply gratifying Wembley humiliation. Good luck to them, and to all the other Yorkshire small fry as they progress, against all sense and logic, in the cups. It’s all good as far as this Leeds fan is concerned. Why, I’ll even be rooting for the Blunts against Spurs on Wednesday – but then I’ll be after another enjoyable dose of Capital punishment for fellow Tykes at that there Wembley, just to help them remember their lowly place in the scheme of things. It wouldn’t do otherwise, would it? It would reflect badly on the region’s only proper football club.
After all – charity begins at home. And, nice guy and warm-hearted softy though you may be; you can really only take your faintly patronising condescension towards scruffy, unappreciative neighbours so far…
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2015 15:13:35 GMT 1
Well done Bradford and well done Steadinho. We had two goes at Chelsea at the Bridge in the Cup in recent years and didn't get anywhere near where Bradford got, so credit where it's due. I also hope they spend some of the Chelski cash to strengthen the squad and get into the Championship next season. I'd certainly rather watch Town versus Bradford than against Millwall, home and away. But I also hope we stuff them both times, my loyalties are in no way divided. Hate is a strong word, I agree, so I won't use it. I'll just continue loathing the white scum. On a bit of a tangent, I think the biggest threat to City's future success is Park Avenue. IMHO it's no coincidence that City's best time since before the First World War occurred while BPA were nowhere. Now that they are climbing their way back up the ladder, and with the recent takeover in mind, there will soon be a soccer alternative to the Chickens. And in today's game two club cities (Bristol, Nottingham, Sheffield) struggle to match their previous achievements. Erm unless I dreamt it, we beat Chelsea at Stamford Bridge in the cup? Kenny Irons screamer. Not the same cup, not the same Chelsea, not the same manager....
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Post by Sugy , Paignton Devon Terrier on Jan 25, 2015 16:38:12 GMT 1
Ive been waiting 52 F A Cup years for town to do" exactly "what Bradford did especially against a top premier league club . I remember towns league cup 1-0 against Chelsea with that Kenny irons wonder goal ,but that Bradford win was arquably the biggest F A Cup shock ever. Totally different ballgame had town beat either Chelsea or Arsenal infront of the tv cameras, and those two very impressive town away followings . I have had the privelege of watching town play in the 1/4 finals of the F A Cup plus play the likes of Liverpool, Man utd ,Spurs etc etc in the 70s, and have been waiting 43 frustrating years for them to return to that level. It seems the F A Cup means little these days unless you can draw on of the big boys , and remember the best game i ever witnessed was towns 4-2 F A Cup win against West Ham in the 1972. Big well done to Bradford ,and what a evenly matched game it would have been had it been possible for town draw City at Valley parade in the next round. Alot of people around the country are asking the question as to why Huddersfield let a very impressive Stead go to Bradford especially when they have been struggling themselves..
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2015 17:41:50 GMT 1
I think that Leeds fan thing has been on here before. Probably (hopefully) a bit tongue in cheek, though I dread to think how long it'll take to write a blog post if the unthinkable happens and they get relegated 'on merit' - as opposed to the demotion via punishment.
That in itself is a decent reminder of how long it can take to recover for clubs that do get some just desserts for their behaviour. Leeds are close to being a generation out of the top division so all the younger fans of Man Utd etc. will soon be wondering why there's such a fascination with them from Leeds fans...
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Post by ibcfc on Jan 25, 2015 19:33:18 GMT 1
Thanks guys, it means a lot was a great day out and never really heard much from Chelsea besides on the tube after the match. Anyway despite your feelings towards us, i bet you wish we both were in the same league so we can have a good old derby, I know I do !!
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Post by terrierng on Jan 25, 2015 20:15:37 GMT 1
Apparently Chelsea donated 20k to the Bradford burns unit. Maybe they sort of had to to cover for the twat tweeting "You can score all you like, it won't bring back the 56 that died in the fire"(to their official twitter account. Is that true.. . The sick Cockney c***
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Post by ringdisco on Jan 25, 2015 22:08:52 GMT 1
Maybe they sort of had to to cover for the twat tweeting "You can score all you like, it won't bring back the 56 that died in the fire"(to their official twitter account. Is that true.. . The sick Cockney c*** It is. The Police showed up at his door, at least.
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Post by COWleySHED on Jan 25, 2015 22:34:28 GMT 1
yeah well done Bradford and sheff utd but I bet they would swap league positions with us in an instant. we r the best team in yorkshire
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Post by Sugy , Paignton Devon Terrier on Jan 25, 2015 23:22:52 GMT 1
So whats Steads transfer fee worth now after his £420,000 ++++++ money making performance. Steads one goal and two assist were the difference between Bradford winning and loosing.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2015 1:50:15 GMT 1
(Grudgingly) I think Bradford played well, nice one!
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Post by Der Blitzbomber on Jan 26, 2015 2:00:29 GMT 1
yeah well done Bradford and sheff utd but I bet they would swap league positions with us in an instant. we r the best team in yorkshire Apart from Hull, sadly...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2015 8:05:13 GMT 1
So whats Steads transfer fee worth now after his £420,000 ++++++ money making performance. Steads one goal and two assist were the difference between Bradford winning and loosing. What transfer fee? He's on loan till the end of the season then his contract is up!
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Post by Tez on Jan 26, 2015 8:06:55 GMT 1
yeah well done Bradford and sheff utd but I bet they would swap league positions with us in an instant. we r the best team in yorkshire Apart from Hull, sadly... Hull are now Humberside, they rid themselves of the East Yorks a while back
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Post by Marco4 on Jan 26, 2015 8:18:06 GMT 1
This is an interesting site about FA Cup giant killing. Link to the Town page but its worth a hunt around.
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Post by richhtfc on Jan 26, 2015 8:37:47 GMT 1
yeah well done Bradford and sheff utd but I bet they would swap league positions with us in an instant. we r the best team in yorkshire Apart from Hull, sadly... Or Sheffield Wednesday...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2015 8:38:09 GMT 1
Apart from Hull, sadly... Hull are now Humberside, they rid themselves of the East Yorks a while back Then they came back. Hull, officially Kingston upon Hull (Listeni/?k??st?n ?p?n ?h?l/ KING-st?n ?-pon HUL, local /?h?l/), is a city and unitary authority area in the ceremonial county of the East Riding of Yorkshire, England. It stands on the River Hull at its junction with the Humber estuary, 25 miles (40 km) inland from the North Sea. Hull has a resident population of 256,100 (2011 est)
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Post by Sugy , Paignton Devon Terrier on Jan 26, 2015 12:22:08 GMT 1
So whats Steads transfer fee worth now after his £420,000 ++++++ money making performance. Steads one goal and two assist were the difference between Bradford winning and loosing. What transfer fee? He's on loan till the end of the season then his contract is up! It was a hypothetical question as Steads amazing " money making " performance against Chelsea surely proves that he was worth abit more than a contract ending "FREE " transfer especially for Bradford City.. His goal and two assists against high quality" PREMIER LEAGUE PLAYERS " were the difference which allow Bradford to earn massive extra cup revenue especially if they draw Man Utd away in the next round . Wont harp on about Arfield , as exactly the same question could have been asked about him. Both mentioned reverts to hindsight , and might be an idea for the club to start putting some kind of " money claw back clauses " , in give away players contracts .
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Post by ACW on Jan 26, 2015 14:47:11 GMT 1
Apart from Hull, sadly... Hull are now Humberside, they rid themselves of the East Yorks a while back Afraid not. They are back in Yorkshire again. Humberside ceased to exist in 1996. Still a dump though - and I should know as my mum comes from there.
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Post by ACW on Jan 26, 2015 14:53:39 GMT 1
Congratulations to Bradford - absolutely cracking result in arguably the greatest cup shock of all time. To go to Stamford Bridge, home of the best team in the country at present, go 2-0 down and come back to win 4-2 is nothing short of astonishing. And I was really pleased to see Steady scoring one and laying on another two. He's scored for them in every round so far I think.
I know Bradford are local rivals, and some Town fans can't stand them, but anyone begrudging them the result is, IMO, a bit sad. They did themselves and Yorkshire proud and proved that although money talks loudest in football, its doesn't always guarantee success for the richest clubs.
Hopefully one day I'll be able to experience something similar as a Town fan.
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Post by Tez on Jan 26, 2015 14:56:33 GMT 1
Hull are now Humberside, they rid themselves of the East Yorks a while back Afraid not. They are back in Yorkshire again. Humberside ceased to exist in 1996. Still a dump though - and I should know as my mum comes from there. Ok but It's near enough a shithole like Sadford then
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Post by Sugy , Paignton Devon Terrier on Jan 26, 2015 15:02:31 GMT 1
Congratulations to Bradford - absolutely cracking result in arguably the greatest cup shock of all time. To go to Stamford Bridge, home of the best team in the country at present, go 2-0 down and come back to win 4-2 is nothing short of astonishing. And I was really pleased to see Steady scoring one and laying on another two. He's scored for them in every round so far I think. I know Bradford are local rivals, and some Town fans can't stand them, but anyone begrudging them the result is, IMO, a bit sad. They did themselves and Yorkshire proud and proved that although money talks loudest in football, its doesn't always guarantee success for the richest clubs. Hopefully one day I'll be able to experience something similar as a Town fan. Been waiting 52 F A Cup years for same Andy, but was a wonderful experience for town fans against both Arsenal and Chelsea. This was voted by a massive percentage of match of the day viewers as the biggest F A Cup shock ever , and similar is about as rare as finding a piece of rocking horse shit. I have never had any qualms with Bradford , and the people of West Yorkshire should share in their success especially as Stead played a vital part.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2015 16:52:37 GMT 1
What transfer fee? He's on loan till the end of the season then his contract is up! It was a hypothetical question as Steads amazing " money making " performance against Chelsea surely proves that he was worth abit more than a contract ending "FREE " transfer especially for Bradford City.. His goal and two assists against high quality" PREMIER LEAGUE PLAYERS " were the difference which allow Bradford to earn massive extra cup revenue especially if they draw Man Utd away in the next round . Wont harp on about Arfield , as exactly the same question could have been asked about him. Both mentioned reverts to hindsight , and might be an idea for the club to start putting some kind of " money claw back clauses " , in give away players contracts . What, you mean like paying his previous club X amount per goal scored? Isn't that what was in Nakhi Wells previous club contract? Not the best idea you've had, imo.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2015 16:57:51 GMT 1
I work in Bradford and my initial feeling of being delighted for them is soon wearing thin. There's a woman in the office still complaining because she and family couldn't get tickets - "they only gave us 6000 and Chelsea got 35000!!"....you couldn't make it up.
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Jan 26, 2015 18:03:44 GMT 1
Can we go back to hatin em now ? Heginbotham , Richmond, Lawn .. Three reasons why ill always despise em
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Post by Sugy , Paignton Devon Terrier on Jan 26, 2015 18:09:31 GMT 1
It was a hypothetical question as Steads amazing " money making " performance against Chelsea surely proves that he was worth abit more than a contract ending "FREE " transfer especially for Bradford City.. His goal and two assists against high quality" PREMIER LEAGUE PLAYERS " were the difference which allow Bradford to earn massive extra cup revenue especially if they draw Man Utd away in the next round . Wont harp on about Arfield , as exactly the same question could have been asked about him. Both mentioned reverts to hindsight , and might be an idea for the club to start putting some kind of " money claw back clauses " , in give away players contracts . What, you mean like paying his previous club X amount per goal scored? Isn't that what was in Nakhi Wells previous club contract? Not the best idea you've had, imo. Put it this way. Stead has proven most people wrong by showing that he he can still mix it with some of the best players in the premier league. It seems town will have or allready have let Stead go on a free come the end of the season which is similar to what happened with Arfield . Town will get fcuk all from a Bradford million+ cup run which was only made possible by an amazing performance from a mentioned on loan Huddersfield town player. Surely it would have done no harm if town had putt some kind of money claw back clause in Steads on loan contract. Its normally described as good business sense. Not suprised town have loads of scouts at every game.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2015 18:23:04 GMT 1
What, you mean like paying his previous club X amount per goal scored? Isn't that what was in Nakhi Wells previous club contract? Not the best idea you've had, imo. Put it this way. Stead has proven most people wrong by showing that he he can still mix it with some of the best players in the premier league. It seems town will have to let Stead go on a free come the end of the season which is similar to what happened with Arfield . Town will get fcuk all from a Bradford million+ cup run which was only made possible by an amazing performance from an on loan Huddersfield town player. Surely it would have done no harm if town had putt some kind of money claw back clause in Steads on loan contract. Its normally described as good business sense. Sugy, I don't see how that could work, Bradford as far as I know are paying his wages, so although we won't give Stead a contract you expect Bradford to pay a transfer fee when he's out of contract? I couldn't imagine any player accepting and signing such a contract. Stead would have nothing to gain and everything to lose. If you're really that concerned we're losing a player good enough to play in the Championship why aren't you pleading the club renew his contract?
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Post by 3Pipe on Jan 26, 2015 18:26:32 GMT 1
Put it this way. Stead has proven most people wrong by showing that he he can still mix it with some of the best players in the premier league. Do you think he would do that on a weekly basis?
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Post by bantamdennis on Jan 26, 2015 18:43:51 GMT 1
Hi there to all you Terriers.
Thanks for all of the good wishes following our great performance on Saturday against one of the best clubs in Europe .... especially after being 2-0 down. Yes, it wouldn't have happened without Steady and for that we have to give you some credit! He has been a revelation since he joined us in the autumn and something seems to have clicked for him with the rest of the squad.
Don't forget to watch BBC1 at around 7.00 to see who we get in the next round ... and I've heard that you might well see a change to the expected schedule! Exciting stuff at VP these days
Thanks also for your great contributions towards this year's commemoration of the tragedy of 30 years ago. It's wonderful to see that local rivalries can be set aside for a far more important event.
Maybe see you all next year at VP?
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Jan 26, 2015 18:45:09 GMT 1
Hi there to all you Terriers. Thanks for all of the good wishes following our great performance on Saturday against one of the best clubs in Europe .... especially after being 2-0 down. Yes, it wouldn't have happened without Steady and for that we give you some you! He has been a revelation since he joined us in the autumn and something seems to have clicked for him with the rest of the squad. Don't forget to watch BBC1 at around 7.00 to see who we get in the next round ... and I've heard that you might well see a change to the expected schedule! Exciting stuff at VP these days Thanks also for your great contributions towards this year's commemoration of the tragedy of 30 years ago. It's wonderful to see that local rivalries can be set aside for a far more important event. Maybe see you all next year at VP I doubt it Dennis
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Post by Sugy , Paignton Devon Terrier on Jan 26, 2015 18:47:56 GMT 1
Put it this way. Stead has proven most people wrong by showing that he he can still mix it with some of the best players in the premier league. It seems town will have to let Stead go on a free come the end of the season which is similar to what happened with Arfield . Town will get fcuk all from a Bradford million+ cup run which was only made possible by an amazing performance from an on loan Huddersfield town player. Surely it would have done no harm if town had putt some kind of money claw back clause in Steads on loan contract. Its normally described as good business sense. Sugy, I don't see how that could work, Bradford as far as I know are paying his wages, so although we won't give Stead a contract you expect Bradford to pay a transfer fee when he's out of contract? I couldn't imagine any player accepting and signing such a contract. Stead would have nothing to gain and everything to lose. If you're really that concerned we're losing a player good enough to play in the Championship why aren't you pleading the club renew his contract? Bradford v Man utd or Camb guaranteed
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