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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2015 13:29:47 GMT 1
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2015 13:52:30 GMT 1
Not sure that is the sort of colourful language Fry was talking about..
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Post by ACW on Feb 4, 2015 14:15:31 GMT 1
Not sure that is the sort of colourful language Fry was talking about.. Context is everything. Personal abuse, whether it contains swear words or not, should be banned. No grey area here for me. Banter is something else, but using the odd swear word on here occasionally isn't a problem for me, as long as it done sparingly. Gratuitous and/or pointless swearing has no place here, but the odd one to make a humourous point is okay for me. And sometimes using an occasional swear word is the best way to get a point across - particularly if you have a strong feeling about something. Again, this should be done sparingly, but there are times when only a swear word will do! As a general rule I don't swear on here, but the odd one has snuck out occasionally. I do think, even though I am not bothered by swearing myself, that if there is evidence that posters are leaving the board it needs looking at. KSNE was a long standing poster from the distant Rivals days and its a shame she no longer contributes. That said, is this an isolated case, or are there other examples? Online message boards are transient by nature so we would need hard evidence that we probably don't have. Perhaps its best to judge swearing on an individual basis rather than having a blanket ban. In that way those abusing the board or its members will be weeded out. I don't pretend to have the answers - just my thoughts. |
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Post by 10 more on Feb 4, 2015 14:17:25 GMT 1
What is the point in posting foul mouthed abuse on this site? the Saddo posting is full of course remarks foul language and each contributing member should in my opinion simply be banned. My Mum always used to say swearing was a sign of ignorance,as it proves you have nothing worth saying I am not a prude but I am fed up having to read mindless postings from people who should know better Come on lads clean it up “The sort of twee person who thinks swearing is in any way a sign of a lack of education or a lack of verbal interest is just a fucking lunatic.” Stephen Fry |
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Post by explorer on Feb 4, 2015 14:23:41 GMT 1
"Anybody who takes the slightest notice of what that arrogant, conceited, self-loving, smug "National Treasure" Stephen Fry says must be a complete bell end - oops sorry - nitwit"
Explorer.
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Post by Solid Snake on Feb 4, 2015 14:44:16 GMT 1
I agree. It's only rarely I swear but when I do I display it like so - f**k, p**s etc. I feel that if I am going to emphasise my point by swearing then I think that's the best way to go about. At least that way it shows that you're taking others that are strongly against bad language into consideration, and you displaying a little bit more manners than just full blown swearing.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2015 14:58:47 GMT 1
I agree. It's only rarely I swear but when I do I display it like so - f**k, p**s etc. I feel that if I am going to emphasise my point by swearing then I think that's the best way to go about. At least that way it shows that you're taking others that are strongly against bad language into consideration, and you displaying a little bit more manners than just full blown swearing. I try to do that, but when I see other posts swearing, I think f##k that. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2015 15:06:36 GMT 1
The Sun's method is pretty funny - asterices on "t**s" followed by a photo of an actual pair. Ridiculous Victorian censoriousness.
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Post by galpharm2400 on Feb 4, 2015 15:31:46 GMT 1
start by taking the swearing off a football posting site and the ills of the world will follow suit, or at least not seem so bad?  audience with a shedload of kids in it watch Lee Evans(the nations comedian) swear over a 80 times? ? remember he is funny and loveable.... swearing my friends, is the very least of our worries... Someone on here called me ignorant the other day..thats an insult, that face to face would certainly have had a reaction, being called a c-nt is merely throw away and usually totally ignorable perspective and context, people... |
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Post by wasp on Feb 4, 2015 15:40:50 GMT 1
what the fuck will it be next  Parents stopping their kids from coming on here, and females not coming on here any more. Shame them same females don't stop going to the games too |
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Post by galpharm2400 on Feb 4, 2015 15:45:48 GMT 1
its a good job waspie is here, adding colour and humour...  having been sworn at and spat at(FROM BEHIND POLICE LINES) by middle aged(possibly just had hard lives) leeds united females, he might have a point. Never having spat at anyone in my life.. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2015 15:49:16 GMT 1
Parents stopping their kids from coming on here, and females not coming on here any more. Shame them same females don't stop going to the games too My parents aren't local so I went to quite a few Man Utd games when I was a kid. It was the early 90s when they started selling out the stadium consistently. I heard the best bit of sexism once from a guy sat behind: "it's all very well women coming to the football, but there's lads outside without a ticket." |
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Post by Grandfather Berty of Cleck on Feb 4, 2015 15:59:39 GMT 1
Parents stopping their kids from coming on here, and females not coming on here any more. Shame them same females don't stop going to the games too If females stopped going to Town games, the club would fold. |
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Post by galpharm2400 on Feb 4, 2015 16:00:00 GMT 1
Keown once said during a ladies international... "her male counterpart would have gone down there, it would possibly have been a penalty" ?? Women in the game?? please and quickly... arsehole experts out of it?? please and quickly.. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2015 16:02:23 GMT 1
Saying kick is worse than saying fuck,,,,I'd rather be fucked to death,than kicked to death
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Post by galpharm2400 on Feb 4, 2015 16:12:49 GMT 1
there are situations that scream out for swearing..
mindless bureaucracy ...
airports..see above.
drivers who try to kill you..
Question Time....
Prime Ministers Question Time..
George Galloway..
hell fire this list is going to be far too long..
life in general, at times.. its what swearing was invented to cover, normal language sometimes just does not cut it, and the clever language you try to use goes way over the head of the moron who caused you the grief in the first place..
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Post by wasp on Feb 4, 2015 16:37:32 GMT 1
Shame them same females don't stop going to the games too If females stopped going to Town games, the club would fold. Maybe but ironing board sales would soar! |
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Post by Grandfather Berty of Cleck on Feb 4, 2015 16:51:01 GMT 1
If females stopped going to Town games, the club would fold. Maybe but ironing board sales would soar! I think I'd rather have HTFC as we know it. |
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Post by wigster on Feb 4, 2015 17:52:53 GMT 1
I agree totally with the majority of this thread - the massive silent majority I suspect - who are fed up with the swearing, personal animosity and aggression that takes over so many of the threads. I don't know if it's machismo or inadequacy but there's a minority that don't seem too interested in the actual arguments or discussion about Town but are much happier showing that they're "proper" football supporters because they can swear or threaten.
In the end I don't think things will change as the board seems to have been taken over in recent times but look at other team's forums (or at this one a few years ago) and you'll see the difference. I know a lot of supporters who don't bother posting now, or even reading the board, because of the way things have gone.
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Post by ShortbreadPete on Feb 4, 2015 18:12:29 GMT 1
I agree. It's only rarely I swear but when I do I display it like so - f**k, p**s etc. I feel that if I am going to emphasise my point by swearing then I think that's the best way to go about. At least that way it shows that you're taking others that are strongly against bad language into consideration, and you displaying a little bit more manners than just full blown swearing. I agree with this post. I shy of using full words when I'm angry or annoyed and very occasionally resort to fookin in an effort to show respect and in a conscious attempt to avoid causing offence. People's points are diluted for me when they resort to being foul mouthed, threatening or abusive. That said, I can occasionally be guilty of hypocrisy. |
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Post by galpharm2400 on Feb 4, 2015 18:13:42 GMT 1
there is enough that do for me..enough spread of thoughts/opinions/ideas..
enough daftness and humour..
people trying to do things to help, wether its appreciated or not..
goodwill and comments when they are required..
animosity is short lived and harmless, its football and virtually everything about it can make you swear at times..
we love it..
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2015 19:05:49 GMT 1
Parents stopping their kids from coming on here, and females not coming on here any more. Shame them same females don't stop going to the games too Id prefer it if the nobheads stopped going |
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Post by York Terrier on Feb 4, 2015 20:39:18 GMT 1
start by taking the swearing off a football posting site and the ills of the world will follow suit, or at least not seem so bad? audience with a shedload of kids in it watch Lee Evans(the nations comedian) swear over a 80 times? ? remember he is funny and loveable.... swearing my friends, is the very least of our worries... Someone on here called me ignorant the other day..thats an insult, that face to face would certainly have had a reaction, being called a c-nt is merely throw away and usually totally ignorable perspective and context, people... Obviously an age thing if Lee Evans was doing a show in my garden I would close the curtains Bob Monkhouse never swore but was very blue, M&W the best comedians in the last 50 years did not swear I don't disagree that it can be used some times and can be funny some times EG the most appropriate use of the F word The captain of the Titanic saying to his crew where did all this ------- water come from? Or Custer asking where did all these ------- Indians come from? But most of the foul mouthed posts on here are neither clever or funny and I don't honestly see what is to be gained by posting the words ---/ --- |
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Post by Porrohman on Feb 4, 2015 21:08:32 GMT 1
Lee Evans and funny in the same sentence ?!!! A sweaty Norman Wisdom impersonator.
Sent from my SM-G900F using proboards
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Post by 3Pipe on Feb 4, 2015 21:45:11 GMT 1
I get more annoyed by bad grammar myself.
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Post by ShortbreadPete on Feb 4, 2015 21:47:23 GMT 1
I do an all
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Post by patfield on Feb 4, 2015 22:06:06 GMT 1
Swearing....time and place. That's it in a nutshell.
Football forum that's ok.
Swearing in front of young kids or the older generation is a no no for me.
In front of male work mates of course, in front of female workmates...not for me.
Maybe I'm old fashioned.
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Post by 3Pipe on Feb 4, 2015 22:09:57 GMT 1
Bit different in Ireland, the women swear more than some of the blokes.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2015 22:20:27 GMT 1
Swearing....time and place. That's it in a nutshell. Football forum that's ok. Swearing in front of young kids or the older generation is a no no for me. In front of male work mates of course, in front of female workmates...not for me. Maybe I'm old fashioned. I concur. Time and a place. |
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Post by impact on Feb 4, 2015 22:45:13 GMT 1
Saying kick is worse than saying fuck,,,,I'd rather be fucked to death,than kicked to death Really? Even by a big black man? |
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