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Post by Chips Longhorn on May 19, 2015 13:50:58 GMT 1
Not only is your maths out by a grand.. your logic is also flawed..there isn't an exact correlation between price and numbers as recent promotional matches showed.. I doubt we would fill the ground every week if it were free to get in Are you in favour of high prices ? What leads you to think that ?
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Post by brighousebandbred on May 19, 2015 13:56:36 GMT 1
Supported this club for a very long time , I've been a season ticket holder for many of them, I'm not able to attend enough games to warrant a season ticket, but can honestly say never felt as separated from the club as I do now. I've got 3 young children of which I've slowly tried to integrate them into htfc, there still too young but I wasn't going to give up. Well there's a dam good chance I will be eating those words because if I have to pay potentially £35 I won't be coming and therefore will not be trying to get my kids hooked. What sort of parent would I be getting my kids hooked on a drug ( football that is) that is unaffordable. Community Club my arse.
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Post by thrice on May 19, 2015 13:57:08 GMT 1
As well as the cost they need to make it easier & more accessible to go in.
Folk don't want to p*ss about pre-purchasing & printing off tickets, they just want to rock up & pay a reasonable fee for the footy.
It's a rainy Saturday morning & all the local footy, golf etc is called off. Hundreds of potential punters think lets go the match then - hang fire how much???
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Post by brighousebandbred on May 19, 2015 14:05:02 GMT 1
Totally agree, but what do they do charge you £3 more for coming on the day. Never got too bothered about match day prices, but htfc have lost the plot here . £32 to watch a game plus £3 extra on the day is an absolute insult. Lost the plot!!!!!!
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2015 14:08:13 GMT 1
I'm exactly that, I play footy on a Saturday and if and when games are off I go to watch Town, it's a last minute decision but sadly at those prices my minds already made up. I can feed two people for a week for £35 or I can fuel my car for a month. Unfortunately I support town with my heart, but my head is a bit more sensible.
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Post by Doc Halladay 32 on May 19, 2015 14:12:32 GMT 1
Not taking about half price tickets but £32 / £35 is bloody stupid, and is simply short term profit. Is money the only thing that matters in football ? Goodbye htfc for far too many if it is. I think the correct phrase you are looking for is minimising losses
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2015 14:16:15 GMT 1
I think clibbens really needs to read the thread, and have a rethink on these prices because the more I think about it the more I think our attendances will plummet.
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Post by brighousebandbred on May 19, 2015 14:17:23 GMT 1
Didn't we boycott Sheffield United in division one because they were Charging us £28 about 4 years ago in a key promotional battle in Div 1. Well this worse we are charging our own fans this to get into home games plus another £7. When you actually sit down and think about it, it's down right. Wrong. Most won't be too bothered as they have already purchased a season ticket, but your thinking short term . Things change in your lives , you get kids , change jobs etc etc . And one day you too may be paying to attend games on the day. £35. £35. UNBELiEVABLE.
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Post by townrwe on May 19, 2015 14:27:28 GMT 1
Lost touch with reality..... The masses dont live on football wages, Havent had a pay rise since 2010 and taking into account inflation have had a pay cut of over 10%........... Total shambles from Town, ill not be paying £35 quid to watch a game of footy when there is so much of it on TV to watch.
I wont miss a match, but ill be listening to Oggy describe the majority!
In all honesty, do you think town would be worse under new ownership? I see alot on here about Hoyle the god, but he has let this happen, I agree he shouldn't be using his own money to prop the club up, but neither should he be using the fans hard earned money to do the same when its of the boards creation.
From a purely business point of view it probably makes sense, but ethically is an abomination.
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Post by galpharm2400 on May 19, 2015 14:44:32 GMT 1
the long term plan for the club appears to be causing grief to some..
£35 to watch a successful and consistently good championship team is a lot of money..
we reduced prices last season in a few games but the prices really did need reducing for what was mostly on offer..
non season ticket holders have the choice to attend as they please, Town have to make it an attractive proposition for a Saturday afternoon.. not easy at £35 ...unless we were challenging properly around the top end I wouldn't want to be paying that price, even every now and again..
minimising the losses wont be helped any by an empty seat..
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Post by waltzingthecowshed on May 19, 2015 14:48:36 GMT 1
Cant take the family thats for sure....best bet is an away day piss up, home games dull and boring no atmosphere last season for 80% of games and the midweek games are like worse should be a tenner in for them
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Post by DeepSpace on May 19, 2015 14:49:14 GMT 1
Didn't we boycott Sheffield United in division one because they were Charging us £28 about 4 years ago in a key promotional battle in Div 1. Not all of us did...15 minutes in, 3-0 up & singing "28 quid and we're having a laugh"
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Post by Mastercracker on May 19, 2015 14:49:57 GMT 1
Ticket prices are complete bollocks in general but at least put a sensible argument together instead of just shouting on about recessions that ended 6 years ago and "£35 a game" when it's blatantly never going to cost you £35.
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on May 19, 2015 14:54:35 GMT 1
I think clibbens really needs to read the thread, and have a rethink on these prices because the more I think about it the more I think our attendances will plummet. He'll not do that because his market research will tell him we're talking bollox.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2015 15:53:56 GMT 1
I would rather see 200 fans @ £20 =£4000 than 100@ £30= £4000.Better attendances better atmosphere.? Oops mea culpa but I'm sure some folk understood what I meant.
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Post by townrwe on May 19, 2015 15:55:34 GMT 1
I think clibbens really needs to read the thread, and have a rethink on these prices because the more I think about it the more I think our attendances will plummet. He'll not do that because his Arsenal's market research will tell him we're talking bollox.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2015 16:02:10 GMT 1
Not bought a season ticket this year for the first time in decades.Last year changed my mind at last minute and paid full whack.This year was going to have to pick my games for various reasons.Now I am going to be picking them when they are the cheaper.So instead of going to half of the games now will be going to approx a quarter.
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Post by townrwe on May 19, 2015 16:20:15 GMT 1
I used to play Golf at Oulton hall, was a lovely course and on a sunday morning it was £12 a round. It went up to £15 and I carried on going. De Vere took over, improved the course no-end, and put the price up to £30...... Ive not been since, only when I have managed to get on a corporate day. I now never play golf on a sunday morning, as my routine has changed.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2015 16:20:25 GMT 1
Not bought a season ticket this year for the first time in decades.Last year changed my mind at last minute and paid full whack.This year was going to have to pick my games for various reasons.Now I am going to be picking them when they are the cheaper.So instead of going to half of the games now will be going to approx a quarter. I made sixteen games last year without paying over £20. I think it still would have been cheaper to get a season ticket and miss seven games.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2015 16:20:43 GMT 1
Ticket prices are complete bollocks in general but at least put a sensible argument together instead of just shouting on about recessions that ended 6 years ago and "£35 a game" when it's blatantly never going to cost you £35. Recession ended 6 years ago ! You are on a different planet to most people !
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Post by Mastercracker on May 19, 2015 16:32:46 GMT 1
Ticket prices are complete bollocks in general but at least put a sensible argument together instead of just shouting on about recessions that ended 6 years ago and "£35 a game" when it's blatantly never going to cost you £35. Recession ended 6 years ago ! You are on a different planet to most people ! No I'm not en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_recessions_in_the_United_Kingdom
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2015 16:53:13 GMT 1
I think clibbens really needs to read the thread, and have a rethink on these prices because the more I think about it the more I think our attendances will plummet. He'll not do that because his market research will tell him we're talking bollox. He's going to get a quick sharp shock next season then if he doesn't change it.
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Post by waltzingthecowshed on May 19, 2015 17:47:01 GMT 1
Ticket prices are complete bollocks in general but at least put a sensible argument together instead of just shouting on about recessions that ended 6 years ago and "£35 a game" when it's blatantly never going to cost you £35. Recession ended 6 years ago ! You are on a different planet to most people ! WUM
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Post by detox on May 19, 2015 19:16:10 GMT 1
Since we got back in the Championship our home gates have been -
2012/13 Total Av 15,080...away av 1,732...home av 12,348...sc holder..9,500...pay on the day..3,848 2013/14 Total Av 14,212...away av 1,578...home av 12,634...sc holder..9.500...pay on the day..3,134 2014/15 Total Av 13,611...away av 1,508...home av 12,103...sc holder..9,500...pay on the day..2,603
So Clibbens pricing strategy has failed miserably. he introduced the very unpopular match category system to maximise revenues from bigger games, then he heard the moans from the pay on the day fans (eventually) and has introduced a buy before the game discount of £3, so he can still maximise revenue from away fans...but the above stats show declining numbers of away fans...declining numbers of pay on the day fans...and the sum of that is 1,400 less fans attending last season than 2 years ago...even away fans are less...
The majority of floating supporters don't know about the offers, they don't look on the website or DATM...when they get to the turnstile is the first time they see the price to get in the ground. Next season they will all be paying a £3 premium...and the logic many here have said is because we want to maximise revenues from away fans ...but away fans average just half of the current pay on the day Town fans...
The logical outcome if Clibbens continues with the brainless strategy is there will be no Town fans paying on the day, and not many away fans either..all priced out of attending...meanwhile SC holders who are paying about half the price of a pay on the day fan will be wondering about lack of atmosphere and why Town aren't buying better players...
I can makeno sense of any of it tbh...
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Post by oldhamhtfc on May 19, 2015 19:35:05 GMT 1
prices are a joke,usually cant find out till the day of the game,been going since 1970.we need to boycott a few games even the season ticket holders,just to make a stance.anyway i wont be paying them prices,when i can go to premier league games a lot cheaper
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Post by 1876tom on May 19, 2015 19:41:45 GMT 1
I stopped going last year when the football was crap and the cost did not seem right. I said I would only go to the cheap offer games. Trouble is you find something better to do with your time and then when the offers come along you`ve lost interest.
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Post by patfield on May 19, 2015 20:34:34 GMT 1
5 of us not renewing next season after many seasons. Personally I will go when promotions are on but that's about it. I will probably watch the local league games a mile further down the road at Leeds road playing fields at the cost of zilch. Anyone else filled the questionnaire in regarding why you haven't renewed? Sad times.
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Post by Chips Longhorn on May 19, 2015 20:48:21 GMT 1
5 of us not renewing next season after many seasons. Personally I will go when promotions are on but that's about it. I will probably watch the local league games a mile further down the road at Leeds road playing fields at the cost of zilch. Anyone else filled the questionnaire in regarding why you haven't renewed? Sad times. Highest league position for years.. maybe you're just getting old Pat .. the ST prices aren't that outrageous are they ?
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Post by patfield on May 19, 2015 20:51:50 GMT 1
Chips, if you want to pay the extra £105 this season for my same seat im up for it. Oh if you're feeling flush can you pay my sons too?
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Post by Chips Longhorn on May 19, 2015 21:03:27 GMT 1
Chips, if you want to pay the extra £105 this season for my same seat im up for it. Oh if you're feeling flush can you pay my sons too? I'm not criticising you .. We all get old Pat and priorities might change... I didn't reaslise ST prices had increased by 100
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