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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2015 20:05:17 GMT 1
No excuses, get them now Hoyle.
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Jul 25, 2015 20:08:38 GMT 1
We've yet to see Davidson so we've no need to panic just yet, but if they can't see that we need a quality centre half then we are in trouble.
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Jul 25, 2015 20:11:45 GMT 1
Talking to an ex footballer today at cricket who knows about this Crainie lad Was saying how good he's supposed to be ??
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2015 20:16:38 GMT 1
Talking to an ex footballer today at cricket who knows about this Crainie lad Was saying how good he's supposed to be ?? What are the question marks for?
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Post by Yuta be a terrier on Jul 25, 2015 20:17:46 GMT 1
Our transfer policy is very admirable but there comes a time where buying unknowns and signing reserves for free isn't sufficient. This squad needs 1 if not 2 good championship standard players. These will cost money but surely relegation would cost more. Holt was a great example of what impact a good quality championship player can have on the team and results.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2015 20:35:44 GMT 1
We've yet to see Davidson so we've no need to panic just yet, but if they can't see that we need a quality centre half then we are in trouble. I Do thinkwe need a quality centre half but dont write of the ones weve got yet.
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Post by terriersyndrome on Jul 25, 2015 20:38:59 GMT 1
Our transfer policy is very admirable but there comes a time where buying unknowns and signing reserves for free isn't sufficient. This squad needs 1 if not 2 good championship standard players. These will cost money but surely relegation would cost more. Holt was a great example of what impact a good quality championship player can have on the team and results. I don't know what all the type is regarding Holt.. Barring a few good displays, he was average at best in most games & only scored 2 goals in 15 appearances.. Worse than average & not good enough for a striker on his wages.. Big Ish made more of an impact when he came in imo & his wages will be half what Wigan pay Holt.
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Post by fredcarno1 on Jul 25, 2015 20:44:47 GMT 1
I think we're going into the season with what we have personally and that Cranie is the type of Championship quality the club / manager thinks we need or at least is the best we can get for our budget. I'm not sure with the loss of Robinson and James coupled with the signing of Cranie was going to suddenly make us a tight defensive unit. Hopefully we've plenty goals in the team again because we've been shipping goals for fun since we came back up 3 seasons and we've still not learned.
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Post by fredcarno1 on Jul 25, 2015 20:47:05 GMT 1
Our transfer policy is very admirable but there comes a time where buying unknowns and signing reserves for free isn't sufficient. This squad needs 1 if not 2 good championship standard players. These will cost money but surely relegation would cost more. Holt was a great example of what impact a good quality championship player can have on the team and results. I don't know what all the type is regarding Holt.. Barring a few good displays, he was average at best in most games & only scored 2 goals in 15 appearances.. Worse than average & not good enough for a striker on his wages.. Big Ish made more of an impact when he came in imo & his wages will be half what Wigan pay Holt. Agreed re Holt thought he was very average personally. Miller was surprisingly better for probably a hell of a lot less money.
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Post by terriersyndrome on Jul 25, 2015 20:54:14 GMT 1
I don't know what all the type is regarding Holt.. Barring a few good displays, he was average at best in most games & only scored 2 goals in 15 appearances.. Worse than average & not good enough for a striker on his wages.. Big Ish made more of an impact when he came in imo & his wages will be half what Wigan pay Holt. Agreed re Holt thought he was very average personally. Miller was surprisingly better for probably a hell of a lot less money. Ish deserved his contract, he seemed to get better as the season went on, he's alot quicker than I was expecting aswell.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2015 21:08:54 GMT 1
Our transfer policy is very admirable but there comes a time where buying unknowns and signing reserves for free isn't sufficient. This squad needs 1 if not 2 good championship standard players. These will cost money but surely relegation would cost more. Holt was a great example of what impact a good quality championship player can have on the team and results. I don't know what all the type is regarding Holt.. Barring a few good displays, he was average at best in most games & only scored 2 goals in 15 appearances.. Worse than average & not good enough for a striker on his wages.. Big Ish made more of an impact when he came in imo & his wages will be half what Wigan pay Holt. Holt was the catalyst to turn our dire start and put on a good run for us. Regardless of how many he scored his input was much needed. I remember of my head two cracking crosses. One at wolves and one at home from which we scored from. He went off the boil tbf but dont take him for granted, it was a short term loan anyway. I agree in general, just think holt is a bad example
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Post by Captainslapper on Jul 25, 2015 21:12:38 GMT 1
No excuses, get them now Hoyle. Is that what you said as you dumped a couple of million on his desk?
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Post by terriersyndrome on Jul 25, 2015 21:19:22 GMT 1
I don't know what all the type is regarding Holt.. Barring a few good displays, he was average at best in most games & only scored 2 goals in 15 appearances.. Worse than average & not good enough for a striker on his wages.. Big Ish made more of an impact when he came in imo & his wages will be half what Wigan pay Holt. Holt was the catalyst to turn our dire start and put on a good run for us. Regardless of how many he scored his input was much needed. I remember of my head two cracking crosses. One at wolves and one at home from which we scored from. He went off the boil tbf but dont take him for granted, it was a short term loan anyway. I agree in general, just think holt is a bad example I'm not disputing his introduction into the team help turn a poor start to the season. His form seemed to drop quite alot as his loan progressed for what ever reason though, whereas Miller nearly always made an impact.. Even if they were on the same money i'd take Miller over Holt.
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Post by fredcarno1 on Jul 25, 2015 21:21:12 GMT 1
No excuses, get them now Hoyle. Is that what you said as you dumped a couple of million on his desk? Yep it's a 'toys out of the pram' statement but we need to unearth some quality from somewhere at the back because on early evidence we are going to be as crap at the back as we have been for the last 3 seasons.
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Jul 25, 2015 21:27:01 GMT 1
No excuses, get them now Hoyle. Is that what you said as you dumped a couple of million on his desk? I thought you believed in freedomofspeech
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Post by Captainslapper on Jul 25, 2015 21:35:10 GMT 1
Is that what you said as you dumped a couple of million on his desk? I thought you believed in freedomofspeech Maybe you should have to pass some sort of test before you get it.
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Post by gledholt terrier on Jul 25, 2015 21:52:05 GMT 1
Is that what you said as you dumped a couple of million on his desk? I thought you believed in freedomofspeech But not freedom from thought.
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Post by drfootball on Jul 25, 2015 22:11:55 GMT 1
No excuses, get them now Hoyle. Is that what you said as you dumped a couple of million on his desk? From a distance it looks like we shed at least 12 players since January so there must be huge chunk of wages saved , you then have the money from coady. We so far only spent supposedly 150 k on Jordy and 300k on Dempsey so if he were to slap 2 million in Dean's desk it would land on the 2 million already there
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Jul 25, 2015 22:23:59 GMT 1
Is that what you said as you dumped a couple of million on his desk? From a distance it looks like we shed at least 12 players since January so there must be huge chunk of wages saved , you then have the money from coady. We so far only spent supposedly 150 k on Jordy and 300k on Dempsey so if he were to slap 2 million in Dean's desk it would land on the 2 million already there Is that really how you think it works ?.do you think Dean is now "up" ? I doubt it
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Post by terriersyndrome on Jul 25, 2015 22:27:17 GMT 1
What an ungrateful set of bastards we are!
Some comments on this forum are outrageous..
No wonder DH sometimes questions why he bothers!
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Post by terriersyndrome on Jul 25, 2015 22:30:11 GMT 1
From a distance it looks like we shed at least 12 players since January so there must be huge chunk of wages saved , you then have the money from coady. We so far only spent supposedly 150 k on Jordy and 300k on Dempsey so if he were to slap 2 million in Dean's desk it would land on the 2 million already there Is that really how you think it works ?.do you think Dean is now "up" ? I doubt it He's losing money on a daily basis, not like some on here have even the slightest interest in the reality.
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Jul 25, 2015 22:36:43 GMT 1
Is that really how you think it works ?.do you think Dean is now "up" ? I doubt it He's losing money on a daily basis, not like some on here have even the slightest interest in the reality. If Hoyle loses a million no one is queuing up to compensate him (I'm not saying they should he made the decision to buy the club ) but if he makes a million all these mourhinhos have it immediately earmarked for incoming talent ( usually without having any ideas who we should buy .. but if they've never heard of them, they ain't that good on FIFA or they've once played for barnsley they are obviously not up to our elevated standard )
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Post by Captainslapper on Jul 25, 2015 22:37:27 GMT 1
The £2m for coady will probably be a structured payment ( most transfer fees are) and of course Liverpool will have no doubt taken a share. What we got up front might be enough to cover the ongoing losses in the 12 weeks since last season ended. We got some dead wood off the wage bill this calendar year so savings there, but weve signed 4 so that will use most of it, if not it all, plus of course the signing on fees and agents fees that get overlooked when people just think about the transfer fee. So all in all, I think freedomofspeach's £2m will be gladly received.
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Post by shawsie on Jul 25, 2015 22:41:43 GMT 1
We do need defensive additions......but it's not up to dean to get em! That's the managers job within the resources the chairman allows him................dean wasn't at the game today but he will be fully aware that our defence at present isn't good enough. What we can't repeat though is the Clark era when his remedy was try bringing in another player and use a selection tombola....at this level you ain't getting a good centre back for a couple of grand a week!
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Jul 25, 2015 22:44:56 GMT 1
You always have to factor in that getting rid of players you don't want isn't always that easy
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Post by Yuta be a terrier on Jul 25, 2015 23:11:18 GMT 1
Holt was the catalyst to turn our dire start and put on a good run for us. Regardless of how many he scored his input was much needed. I remember of my head two cracking crosses. One at wolves and one at home from which we scored from. He went off the boil tbf but dont take him for granted, it was a short term loan anyway. I agree in general, just think holt is a bad example I'm not disputing his introduction into the team help turn a poor start to the season. His form seemed to drop quite alot as his loan progressed for what ever reason though, whereas Miller nearly always made an impact.. Even if they were on the same money i'd take Miller over Holt. Point is he turned the season. He was immense for the first 7 or 8 games and actually dragged the standard of performance up of the players around him. He played 90 minutes consistently unlike Miller and at the time Holt came in we needed a target man with experience. He was the best option and he wasn't the cheapest. If your doubting his impact look at October's results.
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Post by Solid Snake on Jul 26, 2015 0:53:00 GMT 1
We appear to have done good business so far. Now we should be primarily focussing on bringing a decent CB in. We need it. Why do we splash out £1.odd.m on Wells when strikers come ten a penny but not bother paying that sort of money on our defense? I'm not exactly having a go at Wells but we always seem reluctant to go in big for defenders. CB's at this level, it seems as though you get what you pay for. Unfortunately I think that it's been proven that we seem to struggle to academe CB's (I hope Wallace proves me wrong). Don't exactly know who's on the market but spend a bit on our defense, tighten up the crannies and I believe that we could be a very impressive championship side next season.
Probably need another LB too in order to keep progressing and give healthy competition for the spot.
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Post by keithAM11532 on Jul 26, 2015 2:06:09 GMT 1
I don't know why CP hasn't been down to that new Quality CB shop that has opened up in Kingsgate. Apparently you can just stroll in there and choose your self a quality championship Center Back from a whole heap who are sat idly about waiting to play for Huddersfield.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2015 2:30:29 GMT 1
Some time left for transfers. We need a (probably) expensive centre back. This is so blindingly obvious the club will have it in hand and if there are any available am sure we will get one. The rest of the team look quite well balanced.
Fingers crossed!
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Post by drfootball on Jul 26, 2015 7:55:28 GMT 1
Is that really how you think it works ?.do you think Dean is now "up" ? I doubt it He's losing money on a daily basis, not like some on here have even the slightest interest in the reality. I have no doubt in terms of operating costs he is losing out on a daily basis , however we were talking simply about transfer funds. Truth is we so far had 2 free's and 2 purchases that we believe add up to 450k. 12 players out and 2 mill (minus licerpool's cut ) I really like and respect dean and no I couldn't do any better but surely there some in the piggy bank for a centre back
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