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Post by Melc on Jul 26, 2015 8:38:12 GMT 1
He's losing money on a daily basis, not like some on here have even the slightest interest in the reality. I have no doubt in terms of operating costs he is losing out on a daily basis , however we were talking simply about transfer funds. Truth is we so far had 2 free's and 2 purchases that we believe add up to 450k. 12 players out and 2 mill (minus licerpool's cut ) I really like and respect dean and no I couldn't do any better but surely there some in the piggy bank for a centre back How dare you mention on here spending some more money!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2015 8:56:52 GMT 1
Get them now, means if we don't our luck will probably run out this season, & we get relegated, then wish we did get them now, we have had 3 years to get them in, Hudson hasn't tightened things up & Lynch has been our main defender in a terrible defence, no good scoring 2 when we let 3 in.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2015 8:58:48 GMT 1
We appear to have done good business so far. Now we should be primarily focussing on bringing a decent CB in. We need it. Why do we splash out £1.odd.m on Wells when strikers come ten a penny but not bother paying that sort of money on our defense? I'm not exactly having a go at Wells but we always seem reluctant to go in big for defenders. CB's at this level, it seems as though you get what you pay for. Unfortunately I think that it's been proven that we seem to struggle to academe CB's (I hope Wallace proves me wrong). Don't exactly know who's on the market but spend a bit on our defense, tighten up the crannies and I believe that we could be a very impressive championship side next season. Probably need another LB too in order to keep progressing and give healthy competition for the spot. Strikers for ten a penny - roll up roll up folks! We've got Rhodes, Austin, Benteke......
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Post by Yuta be a terrier on Jul 26, 2015 9:03:29 GMT 1
We appear to have done good business so far. Now we should be primarily focussing on bringing a decent CB in. We need it. Why do we splash out £1.odd.m on Wells when strikers come ten a penny but not bother paying that sort of money on our defense? I'm not exactly having a go at Wells but we always seem reluctant to go in big for defenders. CB's at this level, it seems as though you get what you pay for. Unfortunately I think that it's been proven that we seem to struggle to academe CB's (I hope Wallace proves me wrong). Don't exactly know who's on the market but spend a bit on our defense, tighten up the crannies and I believe that we could be a very impressive championship side next season. Probably need another LB too in order to keep progressing and give healthy competition for the spot. Strikers for ten a penny - roll up roll up folks! We've got Rhodes, Austin, Benteke...... He has a point though, there are always strikers knocking about look at ALF at the minute. Quality Defenders are a different matter. Notice we are linked with Ryan Kent an 18 yr old no 10 from Liverpool. No sign of any Defenders yet then...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2015 9:16:48 GMT 1
Strikers for ten a penny - roll up roll up folks! We've got Rhodes, Austin, Benteke...... He has a point though, there are always strikers knocking about look at ALF at the minute. Quality Defenders are a different matter. Notice we are linked with Ryan Kent an 18 yr old no 10 from Liverpool. No sign of any Defenders yet then... And don't forget that massive queue for ALF......
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Jul 26, 2015 9:21:58 GMT 1
He has a point though, there are always strikers knocking about look at ALF at the minute. Quality Defenders are a different matter. Notice we are linked with Ryan Kent an 18 yr old no 10 from Liverpool. No sign of any Defenders yet then... And don't forget that massive queue for ALF...... Is that the same ALF who was tearing it up for reading last season ? They finished below us.. we may as well go the whole hog and sign a striker from barnsley
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Post by Yuta be a terrier on Jul 26, 2015 9:23:43 GMT 1
He has a point though, there are always strikers knocking about look at ALF at the minute. Quality Defenders are a different matter. Notice we are linked with Ryan Kent an 18 yr old no 10 from Liverpool. No sign of any Defenders yet then... And don't forget that massive queue for ALF...... Exactly. The lad is a proven goal scorer at this level yet no one is rushing to sign him. Not because he is crap but because there are plenty of other choices out there. Do you think a defender of equivalent experience and skill would be struggling to find a club? No because they aren't as common. Anyone half decent is snapped up hence the reason you need to spend good money to get a good defender.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2015 10:01:42 GMT 1
And don't forget that massive queue for ALF...... Is that the same ALF who was tearing it up for reading last season ? They finished below us.. we may as well go the whole hog and sign a striker from barnsley Ah Mr Chips as in Ted Chippington? I'm surprised that you missed the irony :-)
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2015 10:03:25 GMT 1
And don't forget that massive queue for ALF...... Exactly. The lad is a proven goal scorer at this level yet no one is rushing to sign him. Not because he is crap but because there are plenty of other choices out there. Do you think a defender of equivalent experience and skill would be struggling to find a club? No because they aren't as common. Anyone half decent is snapped up hence the reason you need to spend good money to get a good defender. Ah! You too! I'll have to be less nuanced......
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Jul 26, 2015 10:50:10 GMT 1
Davidson might be ok when he ever flys back
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Jul 26, 2015 10:55:25 GMT 1
Is that the same ALF who was tearing it up for reading last season ? They finished below us.. we may as well go the whole hog and sign a striker from barnsley Ah Mr Chips as in Ted Chippington? I'm surprised that you missed the irony :-) Haha no o didn't miss the irony.. I just hopped onto the irony bus
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2015 12:47:02 GMT 1
What an ungrateful set of bastards we are! Some comments on this forum are outrageous.. No wonder DH sometimes questions why he bothers! I think if Dean were to read this thread he'd quickly establish that the op is a complete bell end, and have quite a about it.
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Jul 26, 2015 13:13:32 GMT 1
If we'd have had a fan poll (not just on here) at the end of last season as to what position should be our priority signing this summer, I bet 90% would have said a quality centre half, yet the people that make those decisions don't appear to have recognised this glaring deficiency in our defence.
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Post by King Curtis on Jul 26, 2015 15:22:34 GMT 1
On another note, when was the last time we spent any sort of transfer fee on a Centre Back??
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Post by midlander on Jul 26, 2015 15:32:13 GMT 1
On another note, when was the last time we spent any sort of transfer fee on a Centre Back?? Some lad with big potential from Falkirk I believe. Murray Wallace.
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Post by rantinray on Jul 26, 2015 16:05:52 GMT 1
If we'd have had a fan poll (not just on here) at the end of last season as to what position should be our priority signing this summer, I bet 90% would have said a quality centre half, yet the people that make those decisions don't appear to have recognised this glaring deficiency in our defence. They have missed this deficiency for many seasons. Fans keep talking about a quality striker well problem there is the amount of goals we concede and how we play with one lone striker up front. Defensively we are inept at best at worst we are bloody diabolical. Why should this season be any different/better? I hope it is but the players we have signed have not inspired any positivity in my thought process. I do however live in hope.
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Post by htfctx on Jul 26, 2015 17:21:49 GMT 1
I have no doubt in terms of operating costs he is losing out on a daily basis , however we were talking simply about transfer funds. Truth is we so far had 2 free's and 2 purchases that we believe add up to 450k. 12 players out and 2 mill (minus licerpool's cut ) I really like and respect dean and no I couldn't do any better but surely there some in the piggy bank for a centre back How dare you mention on here spending some more money! I am on the fence about expecting Dean to break the bank for a top defender. I am so proud to have a supporter at the helm of htfc. I am ecstatic about the foundation and business practices in place because of Dean. BUT everyone spends their entertainment money as they see fit. Including Dean. So when the millions invested in Town, by Dean get referenced, often neglected is that Dean is using his play money. Wiki has Dean's net worth in 2010 @ £150m This year its reported to be £250m. That's £20m a year. This includes the millions spent by Dean on the club. Well DONE, Dean Hoyle ! Long May you support the great HTFC !
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Post by Sugy , Paignton Devon Terrier on Jul 26, 2015 17:35:09 GMT 1
Town had obvious problems in defence long before March last season around the time they brought in Reece James . Surely towns woeful defensive record at the time was enough to make Powell realised that there were problems that needed addressing especially in central defensive area ,and might have been an idea to have brought in an experienced centre back with " proper leadership skills", with a view to replacing a below standard Hudson who has failed to prove himself . The team could have used the run in games of last season more to their advantage by testing the new player/s in a defence at championship level , then used the close season to knit the team together plus tweak any obvious weaknesses. You would have thought that Powells specialist subject " as an ex defender " would have been that of defence, but questions need to be asked to why he keeps selecting Hudson when clearly he does not have the ability to do the job that he was signed for. I cannot see town surviving at this level unless the defence is brought up to championship standard, and that is a shame when the team have many quality players in other areas of the field that could take the club forward.
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Post by yoy on Jul 26, 2015 18:01:54 GMT 1
How dare you mention on here spending some more money! I am on the fence about expecting Dean to break the bank for a top defender. I am so proud to have a supporter at the helm of htfc. I am ecstatic about the foundation and business practices in place because of Dean. BUT everyone spends their entertainment money as they see fit. Including Dean. So when the millions invested in Town, by Dean get referenced, often neglected is that Dean is using his play money. Wiki has Dean's net worth in 2010 @ £150m This year its reported to be £250m. That's £20m a year. This includes the millions spent by Dean on the club. Well DONE, Dean Hoyle ! Long May you support the great HTFC ! My deduction from that is that there is a lack of transparency surrounding his wealth, rather than him having grown it.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2015 19:19:20 GMT 1
Agreed re Holt thought he was very average personally. Miller was surprisingly better for probably a hell of a lot less money. Ish deserved his contract, he seemed to get better as the season went on, he's alot quicker than I was expecting aswell. Ish is a force. I wouldn't want to play against him
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Post by King Curtis on Jul 26, 2015 19:28:00 GMT 1
If we'd have had a fan poll (not just on here) at the end of last season as to what position should be our priority signing this summer, I bet 90% would have said a quality centre half, yet the people that make those decisions don't appear to have recognised this glaring deficiency in our defence. They have missed this deficiency for many seasons. Fans keep talking about a quality striker well problem there is the amount of goals we concede and how we play with one lone striker up front. Defensively we are inept at best at worst we are bloody diabolical. Why should this season be any different/better? I hope it is but the players we have signed have not inspired any positivity in my thought process. I do however live in hope. Yep, and he was pretty cheap. I can't think of another.. yet we constantly pay fees for midfielders and forwards. Yet we wonder why we concede so many goals...
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Post by goodshot (FGS) on Jul 26, 2015 20:10:49 GMT 1
They have missed this deficiency for many seasons. Fans keep talking about a quality striker well problem there is the amount of goals we concede and how we play with one lone striker up front. Defensively we are inept at best at worst we are bloody diabolical. Why should this season be any different/better? I hope it is but the players we have signed have not inspired any positivity in my thought process. I do however live in hope. Yep, and he was pretty cheap. I can't think of another.. yet we constantly pay fees for midfielders and forwards. Yet we wonder why we concede so many goals... There is more than one answer to that question. Its rarely just about perceived gash individuals. Be interesting how many we would concede if we stuck Cahill and Terry in there though
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2015 20:20:31 GMT 1
Powell should know about the defence, had a good defence record at Charlton, & EX England defender, so I am wondering why he hasn't sorted it, perhaps he thought Hudson would do the job, obviously Hudson's had his best years, this really is baffling to me, James looked an improvement, but we've missed out there. So is the fault with Powel or Hoyle, has Powel said he wants such & such to sort out the shambles, & Hoyle has refused, or Powel is out of his depth to sort out a decent championship defence, I think it's down to Hoyle or powel.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2015 20:34:34 GMT 1
Powell should know about the defence, had a good defence record at Charlton, & EX England defender, so I am wondering why he hasn't sorted it, perhaps he thought Hudson would do the job, obviously Hudson's had his best years, this really is baffling to me, James looked an improvement, but we've missed out there. So is the fault with Powel or Hoyle, has Powel said he wants such & such to sort out the shambles, & Hoyle has refused, or Powel is out of his depth to sort out a decent championship defence, I think it's down to Hoyle or powel. I'll never understand how people can think James improved us defensively.
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Post by Headless Chicken on Jul 26, 2015 20:37:43 GMT 1
Funny how people make it out to be so obvious and then start referencing James as a defensive improvement.
I like him, but he certainly wasn't solid defensively!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2015 20:38:47 GMT 1
Did he give goals to the opposition, was he our best crosser.
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Post by Headless Chicken on Jul 26, 2015 20:44:59 GMT 1
Did he give goals to the opposition, was he our best crosser. Is this a serious argument?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2015 20:47:02 GMT 1
Did he give goals to the opposition, was he our best crosser.Yes, but that's got nothing to do with defending, has it? He did cost us goals, quite a few in his short time with us as well.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2015 20:54:55 GMT 1
Any way back to my original post. If we blame Powel, we must also blame Robins & grayson. So I wont, I don't think they are at fault. I thank Hoyle for getting us back in this division, are we at our limit, we haven't been able to get a decent defence in this division, I agree with solidsnake, goal scorers are easy to get compared to good defenders, maybe good defenders will start to get their rewards soon, & strikers realise they aren't the tops . Thank You dean, I don't want us in the basement divisions again, & hope you can keep our dreams alive, we are only 1 season from the top flight again. let's do a Burnley but stay up.
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Post by fredcarno1 on Jul 26, 2015 22:21:56 GMT 1
Despite our defensive failings at least we won't turn up to the first game to see Matt Crooks in a back 3 !!
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