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Post by workshyfop on Jul 8, 2023 7:44:12 GMT 1
So, Hoyle fucked it up when “selling” to PH in order to get the most money possible back and hamstrung us with that deal by taking parachute payments and money from player sales. Now he’s done it again by sabotaging the budget for the new owner. I wouldn’t be surprised if he was getting the Coady money and player sales this summer as part of the deal. Keep gathering your coppers for a statue and tugging your forelocks. History has shown that the Hodgkinson deal was the wrong call by Hoyle but he deferred his loan repayments when Covid affected the club's cashflow and then made further loans when Hodgkinson's businesses failed. Writing off (apparently) £40m of loans (which IIRC peaked at c£55m) as part of the sale to Nagel means in practice repayment of c£15m of the money he put in (though it seems may receive a further payment if a return to the PL is achieved). He then put in more money following the sale agreement to allow the club to continue, on the basis Nagel covered this when the sale completed. There's no indication whatsoever that any sales proceeds etc will go to Hoyle. I'm not advocating a statue but it's not hard to see what he's done for the club - not sure whether he or Rubery will have lost more money through their involvement. But then there's none as blind as those that won't see. Fair points and you’re right, I’ve been too harsh. Just frustrated that a lot of the club’s problems have been self-inflicted by poor decisions from those in charge. Hopefully we can scrape through this period and try to rebuild on more solid foundations.
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Post by workshyfop on Jul 7, 2023 19:54:22 GMT 1
So, Hoyle fucked it up when “selling” to PH in order to get the most money possible back and hamstrung us with that deal by taking parachute payments and money from player sales. Now he’s done it again by sabotaging the budget for the new owner. I wouldn’t be surprised if he was getting the Coady money and player sales this summer as part of the deal. Keep gathering your coppers for a statue and tugging your forelocks.
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Post by workshyfop on Jul 7, 2023 18:31:30 GMT 1
Why are we always skint and have (one of) the lowest budget in the league? Relegated from the Premier League with parachute payments = skint Get a new owner = skint Sell our better players = skint Finish third, on Sky every week, a play off campaign and Wembley final = skint Sell our better players = skint Get a new owner = skint Why always us?
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Post by workshyfop on Jul 7, 2023 11:24:18 GMT 1
Think he only has a year left on his deal, and Ryan Lowe was sniffing around back in January. Think it makes sense if he’s not going to renew, that we cash in. He wants to stay but warnock needs his wages Are we that skint that we have to get rid of players before we can add to the squad (or replace I suppose)?
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Post by workshyfop on Jul 5, 2023 10:25:01 GMT 1
Forest Green let Big Dunc go and put a lass in as caretaker manager. There was a female manager in charge of a French club a few years ago, i cant remember her name or the club concerned or how things turned out. Cherie Lunghi?
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Post by workshyfop on Jul 5, 2023 10:22:44 GMT 1
FGR sacked Big Dunc and now have Hannah Dingley in charge. Interesting.
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Post by workshyfop on Jul 4, 2023 22:32:45 GMT 1
Leciester are not fucking around: Winks has signed for ~£10m Coady rumoured for ~£8m Joel Piroe rumoured for ~£10m Winks, Coady & Piroe for selling Maddison is great business, especially as they'll still be in big profit from those deals. 1st away team at Town to be champions 4 years running is a distinct possibility. Signing Danny Ings for £6m now. Christ! Lucky we held onto Ward, Koroma and Ruffels …
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Post by workshyfop on Jul 4, 2023 21:40:25 GMT 1
Any truth in Callum Lang? Always rated him whenever I’ve seen him.
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Post by workshyfop on Jul 4, 2023 10:30:53 GMT 1
Warnock likes to be surrounded by his own men, people he can trust to carry out instructions and get the job done. Whatever we think of certain players, after last season we have to let Warnock get on with it as he sees fit. It’d be nice to spend a few quid to improve the squad, but that awaits to be seen.
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Post by workshyfop on Jul 1, 2023 9:06:54 GMT 1
Is there any scientific research to suggest that wearing bright coloured kits is easier for players to pick out each other (insert your own scapegoat here) or officials to give decisions (for example, easier to spot offsides)? I’m sure I read somewhere that there are reasons for certain colours to be chosen and red is the most successful, whether that’s down to colour or clubs in red having more money or better players would be debatable. Obviously, a classic example was Fergie blaming Man U’s grey away kit for getting battered at Southampton.
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Post by workshyfop on Jun 30, 2023 10:15:26 GMT 1
It’s awful, but as I always readily admit it’s not aimed at me.
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Post by workshyfop on Jun 28, 2023 6:59:34 GMT 1
I apologise. It was indeed the old DATM running joke “I hope they go bust” and there was even a winking emoji. For the record, I don’t really want them to go bust. I’d had a few light ales and was just being a miserable cynical old man about us having a “sister club”, but meant in a humorous way (obviously badly misjudged). I won’t personally be rushing out to buy Sacramento stuff, but wish them good luck all the same.
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Post by workshyfop on Jun 25, 2023 21:04:41 GMT 1
Following Sacramento Republic is the most tinpot thing ever. If it didn’t possibly affect Town, I’d hope they go bust! 😉 Is that supposed to be funny? No, not really. I was just pointing out that Sacramento Republic aren’t that important to me unless it affects Town.
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Post by workshyfop on Jun 25, 2023 20:18:19 GMT 1
Following Sacramento Republic is the most tinpot thing ever. If it didn’t possibly affect Town, I’d hope they go bust! 😉
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Post by workshyfop on Jun 20, 2023 10:49:20 GMT 1
Has anyone seen how the whole kit looks together yet with shorts & socks? Nup. There's a strange lack of detail around the new kit, usually loads more pics of the shirt, shorts, socks etc. Hopefully they're all busy working on more important things. Only seen the shorts in a pic of them hanging up in the shop, same with socks. It’s the trend these days when releasing kits to have folk in the shirt coupled with jeans, hats, jewellery or whatever to make them seem like cool fashionable leisurewear. As if hip young gunslingers out there are parading around in bling and Town shirt when they’re on the pull!
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Post by workshyfop on Jun 20, 2023 8:24:27 GMT 1
After failing again to secure automatic promotion Moore needed a convincing play off to hang on to his job in my view, a pounding at London Road probably made up the minds of his employers as they travelled back North, little did they know the Peterborough team & play off final officials would lend them a huge hand to get promoted......Far from convincing & a definete no for Moore & co at JS. They did get a whopping 96 points, to be fair to Moore.
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Post by workshyfop on Jun 19, 2023 22:03:29 GMT 1
Do you think after hearing the financial position and what he had to work with, he mutually told them to fuck off??? Bit like Corberan after he nearly got didn't get us promoted? Fixed it. Yeah, that shit manager who finished third with a squad with the third lowest budget in the league. Booo! Shame on him! Why am I responding to a moron?
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Post by workshyfop on Jun 19, 2023 20:48:36 GMT 1
Just the 96 points and promotion. No European football though, which was the minimum expected at the start of the season …
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Post by workshyfop on Jun 17, 2023 12:23:30 GMT 1
He never gives up but hardly ever scores. Never gives up? He was “injured” until Warnock arrived with no sign of his return. Suddenly, he miraculously recovered. 🤔
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Post by workshyfop on Jun 17, 2023 9:26:19 GMT 1
Lovely goal. Loving TTA in the 10 role. It’s weird. Trent moves into midfield and looks great and Stones too with citeh. I find it hilarious that Pep Guardiola would rather play a centre back in midfield than Kalvin Phillips. It’s a bit like when Stuart Pearce, also at City, put David James upfront and left Jon Macken on the bench! 😂
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Post by workshyfop on Jun 16, 2023 20:02:34 GMT 1
He’s a great player. The only bright spot last season pre-Warnock. Hopefully he can kick on. Proper footballer.
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Post by workshyfop on Jun 15, 2023 12:33:09 GMT 1
I bloody love Smile Awhile. Sounds awesome to me, but mostly because it's ours. How many other songs do we have that are unique to us? Of course it’s unique to us … who’d nick that dirge and lyrics about “bells will ring so merrily”?
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Post by workshyfop on Jun 14, 2023 16:51:25 GMT 1
Ian Bennett and Carl Serrant coming in as coaches
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Post by workshyfop on Jun 13, 2023 16:37:03 GMT 1
Presumably if the player had got straight up or not gone down in the first place, like a normal person given a slight shove, the pitch invader would have been arrested and the game continued. I might be wrong, but the whole thing seemed premeditated on the part of Rodez should they take the lead. Someone who should not be there caused an incident that allowed this to happen. Its risky going down for nothing when the person is still on scene but the player took that risk. Had a glass bottle or something as dangerous hit him on the head as he celebrated the outcome would have been the same, you cant go on the pitch, you cant touch a player, you cant throw stuff at them. I cant back the fans because this player was given an opportunity to milk it, are you going to employ experts on what type of assault on a player deems being stretchered off?? This going on the pitch or chucking stuff is getting fucking stupid now. Agreed people shouldn’t be on the pitch or chuck stuff. But, you don’t need VAR to judge that the contact doesn’t cause any sort of injury.
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Post by workshyfop on Jun 13, 2023 10:28:46 GMT 1
Have you seen the incident? I think it’s on this thread somewhere. The goalscorer was celebrating in front of the home fans. A bloke ran on and pushed a Rodez substitute who was celebrating with his teammates. He then stumbled, the goalscorer went down and left on a stretcher apparently with concussion. In the case of play acting, I agree entirely. But the game wasn't abandoned and subsequently points awarded due to play acting. That was wholly down to the pitch invader I think. Presumably if the player had got straight up or not gone down in the first place, like a normal person given a slight shove, the pitch invader would have been arrested and the game continued. I might be wrong, but the whole thing seemed premeditated on the part of Rodez should they take the lead.
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Post by workshyfop on Jun 13, 2023 9:39:56 GMT 1
Does it mean Annecy are relegated? That’s terrible if so. As I said, cheating has paid off for Rodez. But it was a Rodez player who got lampedusa by a Bordeaux fan. How did Rodez cheat in this instance? Have you seen the incident? I think it’s on this thread somewhere. The goalscorer was celebrating in front of the home fans. A bloke ran on and pushed a Rodez substitute who was celebrating with his teammates. He then stumbled, the goalscorer went down and left on a stretcher apparently with concussion.
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Post by workshyfop on Jun 13, 2023 9:07:56 GMT 1
The Bordeaux promotion was always highly improbable, it's Annecy who are really being cheated by this. Does it mean Annecy are relegated? That’s terrible if so. As I said, cheating has paid off for Rodez.
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Post by workshyfop on Jun 13, 2023 8:25:57 GMT 1
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Post by workshyfop on Jun 12, 2023 16:11:35 GMT 1
Terry Austin wasn’t that bad. We’d kill for a striker who scored a goal every four games these day (10 in 42)!
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Post by workshyfop on Jun 11, 2023 18:43:54 GMT 1
Heard an amusing exchange on our street between a Liverpool and Man U fan last Sunday morning. Early, woke me up. The Liverpool fan was saying “Man U suck”, the Man U fan passive aggressively asked “how many cups did you win this season? Where did you finish in the league? I think we did a bit better than you, mate.” This is on a street in a rural village in the south west of England, where chances are neither have ever been to a game on either city. Nor could they point to it on a map. To be fair, the Liverpool fan was about 8 whereas the Man U fan is in his forties! Embarrassing. 😂
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