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Post by queenybantam07 on Feb 23, 2014 19:19:44 GMT 1
Fair enough Queeny, you make some good points and like you say swings and roundabouts. You have really cheap season tickets but we are in the championship with more away fans, but you are afterall a City with about 2 and a half times the population and during the period of 2004 to 2007 when we were on more of a level playing field, ie same division, both charging the going rate for season tickets/matchday tickets we had a good 6000 on you. Whilst we are a City, just over 20% are Asian - and as previously stated, they like to keep their distance. That's almost the population of Huddersfield alone. Our outer-borough population is massive - so not all like to even declare their Bradfordian let alone coming to Manningham and supporting the club. In between that, we have the Bradford Whites (L**ds fans)...I don't care what anyone says, there's more of them in Bradford than anywhere else - other than Leeds itself. Mainly to do with Park Avenue liquidating in the 70's, cue the stans jumping on the Leeds bandwagon. Which brings me on to bradford Bulls. They don't like us, and we sure as hell don't like them. The City is so diverse. Hence why we don't pull 20,000+ crowds in L1 (if ever that was going to happen). I think we do relatively well pulling the crowds we do - especially given the bad publicity over the years. Tbf, it was never 6,000 difference - almost. We were on a downward spiral and you coming up the other way - and even then it was 2,500-3,000 difference at times. I could compare your attendances in the late 90's to ours back then - you were a pretty established Championship side, being in the league for 7 straight years averaging 12,000-13,000 - to our crowds of 13,000-15,500. Same league, same prices and pretty much the same success. It's all relative. |
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Post by queenybantam07 on Feb 23, 2014 18:59:51 GMT 1
For stewarding you mean? Seeing an Asian in the crowd is a very rare occurrence I'll have you know. There were many Asians at Valley Parade for your cup run, I'm not knocking ya pal, when three quarters of your population is made up of them why not ? More in support of Arsenal and Villa rather than City. They seemed to congregate around both corner flags, so when a corner was taking place, it looked like there was loads in the ground. It couldn't be further from the truth. I'm all for more coming to watch and support, but it's never gonna happen. |
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Post by queenybantam07 on Feb 23, 2014 16:56:59 GMT 1
To be fair Bradford have tapped into the asian market,I noticed this whilst watching their cup run last season, For stewarding you mean? Seeing an Asian in the crowd is a very rare occurrence I'll have you know. |
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Post by queenybantam07 on Feb 23, 2014 16:56:17 GMT 1
I don't know what the average away support is at John Smiths but when you consider we have the 7 or 8th best away support in the division with an average of about 1300, that shows me that the away crowds in championship aren't much higher than lge one. Like I said theres probably about 500 difference. I expect our average at end of season to be around 15000 and like Queenie said theres will be about 14000. Having checked, the average number of visiting fans at the JSS so far this season is 1,399 - but that's not including what Forest and Wednesday have brought. So it's probably nearer 1,800. Ours is 849. Again, that's not including games against Vale and MK dons - who both brought around 220 fans. So ours will be nearer 700. Deduct these figures from your official average, and it's plain to see, we have more fans at home. I nearly fell asleep writing that. All the best reading it. |
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Post by queenybantam07 on Feb 23, 2014 15:07:50 GMT 1
And so it should be with the games you've got left - as you've already stated - full away ends and all that. Speaking of which, we allocate 2,500 away fans max - you allocate 4,000. How many times has the away end sold out this season? Swings and roundabouts. Season tickets - ah yes, that old chestnut. We give em away for £200 - but currently have over 4,300 fans paying on the day. Again, swings....... Thornton village owns queensbury.  Have a word. |
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Post by queenybantam07 on Feb 23, 2014 15:05:14 GMT 1
Our away end holds about 3500. Its been full 4 times this season. Like I say it'll be about 500 higher on average but overall ours will be about 10000 more come the end of the season. I may be wrong here but didn't you open that srand at the side when you play teams like Wolves and Sheff Utd? Considering we brought 3,950 to you this season, your away end doesn't hold 'about 3,500'. Anyway....I doubt you'll average 10,000 more too Aye, you're right. We allocate the Dallas and two blocks in the MR stand - the two combined hold 2,550ish. I reckon we'll finish up on 14,000ish. Given that awful run, it's understandable really. We'll have another 16,000+ attendance before the end of the season, though. |
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Post by queenybantam07 on Feb 23, 2014 14:40:53 GMT 1
That is indeed true but I reckon by the end of the season our average will be about a thousand more than Bradgords with the games we have coming up compared to Bradfords. I would guess away support average is about 500 more in the championship compared to league one. How much are your season tickets? And so it should be with the games you've got left - as you've already stated - full away ends and all that. Speaking of which, we allocate 2,500 away fans max - you allocate 4,000. How many times has the away end sold out this season? Swings and roundabouts. Season tickets - ah yes, that old chestnut. We give em away for £200 - but currently have over 4,300 fans paying on the day. Again, swings....... |
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Post by queenybantam07 on Feb 23, 2014 14:11:08 GMT 1
Hi guys, how are you doing? I know you guys have an interest in our two teams attensandences and were expeccting  a higher average than Town for the first time since you were two divisions above Town (03-04 season) but we now have an average of 14402 to your 14382 and with big games coming up against Barnsley, Leicester, Bolton and Blackburrn and your only "big" game being against Oldham, Towns will definitely be higher yet again. Hope this helps towards your course, Chicken. Do you think you should reduce your season ticket prices even more? Have a good day. Doesn't that just epitomise the difference in away support between the two leagues? On average, how many away fans visit JSS a season - compare that to VP, and you'll probably find we average more home fans. Just sayin'  |
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Post by queenybantam07 on Jun 18, 2013 17:34:48 GMT 1
I'm not going to deny, your crowds have been better down the year, but only marginally. Infact, the all-time average attendances for each clubs are below. Last recorded in 2008, but it gives you a rough idea. Hudderfield - 13,038 Bradford - 10,569 Vey interesting; so shall we now bring the size of our respective Town/City into the equation and you'll then begin to get a better idea.... Ah, that old chestnut. |
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Post by queenybantam07 on Jun 18, 2013 16:35:24 GMT 1
Honestly, how many would be a Valley Parade if it was the other way round, a 25k sell out? Get a grip Bradford lads and lasses, its gone to your heads already. I'm looking forward to the game, but no doubt, despite Bradford being a bigger city than Huddersfield we are better supported than you are, always have been always will be. I'm willing to bet that only during your Premiership years and aside from 87/88 when you were flying high and we had our worst season ever, have you ever had a bigger average gate than Town. You know it, I know it and everyone else knows it, in West Yorkshire the pecking order is Leeds, Town and then you lot. First and foremost, alright chaps. In regards to the draw, yeah, it's all we've ever wanted. All joking aside, it should be cracker, and even at this early stage, i'm quietly confident - just a shame it isn't at Valley Parade. If it was drawn at VP, the crowd wouldn't be all that different - but still overall slightly higher. 12k-13k perhaps. But looking into a few averages, we've beaten your seasonal average 24 times. 1921, 1922, 1929, 1930, 1931, 1932, 1933, 1979, 1986, 1987, 1988, 1989, 1990, 1991, 1994, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004 and 2008. (I've probably missed a few more, and I skimmed through comparing 'em quickly. I'm not going to deny, your crowds have been better down the year, but only marginally. Infact, the all-time average attendances for each clubs are below. Last recorded in 2008, but it gives you a rough idea. Hudderfield - 13,038 Bradford - 10,569 Anywaaaay, back on-topic. |
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Post by queenybantam07 on Jan 19, 2013 16:58:44 GMT 1
He may well turn out ok but his record in league2 is not great - I certainly wouldn't want to pay much for him 29 goals in 57 app - this is his first full season and he's notched 17 goals already. Far from relative anyway, he won't be going anywhere 'till at least the summer. |
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Post by queenybantam07 on Oct 15, 2009 0:08:14 GMT 1
Vivian, quite simply who cares??? You'r a bradford city fan and you play in league 2, we don't care about you anymore aye, funny how they go on and on about attendances, but whatever way you look at it, ours are better  Except you're missing the all important fact, TFB. When it comes to away support and especially 'true' away support in terms of home to away ratio's, you actually have poorer away support than ourselves. We're in the league below and you still can't match our away followings - 'Say's it all, really'. |
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Post by queenybantam07 on Oct 15, 2009 0:05:04 GMT 1
Vivian, quite simply who cares??? You'r a bradford city fan and you play in league 2, we don't care about you anymore No, that's right - Your 'new' WIVALS are the scum just down the road, arn't they? It's a shame that the White Shite see Bradford as the 'bigger' derby. |
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Post by queenybantam07 on Oct 14, 2009 23:51:17 GMT 1
i never said 8000 exactly, i'm sticking to my guess of 9000. think your ground holds about 500-1000 more than ours, its not that hard to take a guess, like at bolton, my arse they get 20,000+ every week, whenever we've had 20,000+ its looked packed, empty seats galore at t'reebok every week Even so, if we averaged 9,000, that would mean they'd be 3,000 fan's in both the Kop and the Midland Road stands. I bet there's nearer 2,500 in the Midland road stand alone, neverminf what's in the Kop. Not that hard to guess? Well, obviously it is judging by your predictions. When you've got three stands that rap round into a corner that have a combined capacity of 18,798, it is difficult to judge. But, when you've been attending matches every season at VP since the Corner and Sunwin Upper stadns where built and in that time, more often than not, we averaged around 9,000ish, I'm bound to know how full or not so full VP would look if only 8,000-9,000 where in attendance. I'm just saying, like.... |
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Post by queenybantam07 on Oct 14, 2009 23:20:58 GMT 1
Bradford City 1 Burton Albion 1 - 11,439 (339 Burton fan's) Honestly, does the crowd look more like 8,000 of 11,500? Just wondering, like? I didn't say there was 8,000 there. I said the AVERAGE is about 8,000. I will try and find out the true attendance for that game tomorrow. I don't work in H&S but have a 'mole' So, you're saying we average around 8,000 in League Two. But, 3,500 more Bantams turned up against Burton as oppose to our 'usual' 8,000 average crowds? We haven't averaged less than 8,200 in the league in over 14 season's - I think we'd know if Valley Parade had 8,000 in attendance on average on matchday - And for a start, when we averaged 8,500+ in League One a couple of season's ago, only three blocks of the Midland Road stand was open - Whereas 5 blocks are allocated to home supporters. queeny, i honestly think berty's closer, even though i think its more around the 9000 mark, side stands always look fuller when your in the north/south stand. Nearer to 8,000? Are you being fricking serious. :iconlol: Although, I do agree with the fact that attendances per stand can be quite deceiving pending on what angle you're looking at the stand(s) from. As an example, this is what our Main Stand would look like face-on on matchday.  Capacity - 9,006. Bottom tier holds around 4,800. Not exactly full to the brim, but certainly 4,000+ City taking advantage of the Main Stands facilities. If our crowds are nearer the 8,000 figure on average, then surely there must be less than 4,000 souls in't'other stands? - I beg to differ.   The top tier of the Bradford End has a capacity of just under 1,100 and is sold out this season, also. I think you're way out due to your lack of knowledge of what our stands can hold in capacity - Which is understandable. |
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Post by queenybantam07 on Oct 13, 2009 16:01:07 GMT 1
I work for Bradford Council and you still give false figures. You have to give us your real attendance figures to comply with your Health & Safety Certificate rules. Your average attendance this season is around 8,000 Hi Berty, Banter aside, judging by these pics would you still stand by that statement? I know they're only pictures, but, it gives you a good insight to what crowds we do get on matchday.    Bradford City 1 Burton Albion 1 - 11,439 (339 Burton fan's) Honestly, does the crowd look more like 8,000 of 11,500? Just wondering, like? |
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Post by queenybantam07 on Oct 5, 2009 17:58:10 GMT 1
Meh......excuses, excuses. We averaged 1,106 away from home last season with one of the worst away forms in the league - Not bad for a league two side I suppose. We've always sold out what tickets you've given us - Always. It varied from time-to-time. One season we'd recieve 3,800 tickets and the next it'd be just over 3,600 (like in 2007). But, you'd never give us the whole stand like you do against L**ds - which is a tad bemusing to say the least. Well we could've always given you the whole of the Midland road stand, but we never needed to....Which goes without saying really. |
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Post by queenybantam07 on Oct 5, 2009 17:15:45 GMT 1
I'm sorry but when was the last time we brought such a 'poor' away following to your gaff? I seem to remember you lot bringing a few small one's down the years though. ....And our kit this season is DA bomb. Are you seriously trying to compare away supports queeny??!! Your biggest turnout ever at the pharm was last season when we gubbed you 4-0 but fair play you brought 3500 - probably reported in your programme as 35000 mind!! Our "poorer" away followings at the lop sided monstrosity always coincided with sky televising the game fella - normally we have one and a half sides of your ground but as we wont be playing you for years it doesnt matter does it!!!! Oh and yes your kit is rather attractive this year - pity about the previous 100 years of carbuncles! Me comparing away support, Shawsie? - Never. What would be the point, we'd win hands down. We've averaged more than you away from home for as long as I can remember. In recent encounters you've failed to sell your allocation more than once. Whereas we always sell-out at the plastic arena. We brought more in 2007, than we did last season - A good 450 more. I remember when we allocated you 6,340 seats the other seaosn and you failed to bring more than 2,700 - Pretty poor to say it was your cup final back then. Boasting about having two sides of the ground is nothing to brag about, especially when 1.) the Bradford End only holds 1,840 and 2.) you never fill it. ;D piss off firth do you spend your whole life trawling the internet searching for comments about Bradfords away following? ever heard of girls??? I'm sorry, but who are you? :  : Not really, no. But, if I feel something needs putting right, then i'm well within my rights to do so. If I stated a load of ball axe about Town on the OMB, are you telling me one of the TB's wouldn't be as quick to reply also? Girls? It's funny you should mention them - Got three day's booked in Brid with our lass at the end of this month - No exspences spared in Queeny's household. ;D |
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Post by queenybantam07 on Oct 4, 2009 22:51:36 GMT 1
Terrific cold winters day here at the Galpharm and splendid to see bradford city arrive in such numbers for this fa cup tie and also with a shiny brand new attractive and fashionable playing strip. I'm sorry but when was the last time we brought such a 'poor' away following to your gaff? I seem to remember you lot bringing a few small one's down the years though. ....And our kit this season is DA bomb. |
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Flynn
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Post by queenybantam07 on Sept 7, 2009 13:53:15 GMT 1
A couple of hudred I would've thought. It was against yourselves the year we did the double over you.....I think? Do all your stewards get jackets fashioned from your gaffers hair? That's nothing - You should see our PWITTY traffic lights above the players 'tunnel'. ;D |
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Post by queenybantam07 on Sept 7, 2009 12:53:05 GMT 1
A couple of hudred I would've thought. It was against yourselves the year we did the double over you.....I think? |
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Post by queenybantam07 on Sept 7, 2009 12:47:45 GMT 1
Viv, there's nothing the matter with Queensbury - We urine on you all from above.  What a strange post. Would you please fuck off and die - or alternatively, don't log on here again. I beg your pardon, Phil? I'm presuming you're not quite on the same length as me hence your over reaction. :shake: Mwah xxx |
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Post by queenybantam07 on Sept 7, 2009 1:27:44 GMT 1
Viv, there's nothing the matter with Queensbury - We urine on you all from above. |
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Post by queenybantam07 on Aug 1, 2009 23:39:28 GMT 1
Firthy?  Its that unique writing style of yours that gives it away I'd even go as far as saying you're very bantamigo, google esque myself, what with the simple English grammer mistakes but then again.....I'll leave you be with your personal vendetta against 'Firthy'. What that has to do with me (Queeny), I don't know? |
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Post by queenybantam07 on Aug 1, 2009 20:46:02 GMT 1
Goose, me ol' mucka - I've been registered to this poor excuse of a forum for over a year now (Yeah...I know ) and as you can see as regards to my post count, i'm becoming a bit of a diehard- But thanking you for the invitation. It'll be all fun and games when we're promoted next season - Restoring old rivalries, that is. ;D Firthy - we will be at least 2 divisions above you by then, possibly 3 if McCall takes you down. Firthy? |
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Post by queenybantam07 on Jul 31, 2009 21:42:44 GMT 1
Goose, me ol' mucka - I've been registered to this poor excuse of a forum for over a year now (Yeah...I know ) and as you can see as regards to my post count, i'm becoming a bit of a diehard- But thanking you for the invitation. It'll be all fun and games when we're promoted next season - Restoring old rivalries, that is. ;D |
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Post by queenybantam07 on Jul 31, 2009 21:28:56 GMT 1
BUMP
Yeadon, fancy seeing you here.
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Post by queenybantam07 on Jul 21, 2009 4:48:16 GMT 1
Premiership (We've seen that i'll have you know) - Liverpool
Championship - Nottingham Forest
League One - L**DS .....Behave!......Charlton
League Two - Burton....It just has to be?
Conference - Luton
SPL - Rangers.....OBVIOUSLY!!!!
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Post by queenybantam07 on Jul 21, 2009 4:42:04 GMT 1
MANCHESTER UNITED CARDIFF CITY HUDDERSFIELD TOWN BRADFORD CITYHISTON VICTORIA, WHATEVER THEY ARE CALLED  MY ARSE & WHY DO YOU LOT LIKE GATESHEAD  Wash your dog bothering mouth out, young lad. |
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Post by queenybantam07 on Jul 21, 2009 4:35:12 GMT 1
Alright chaps. My sentiments on Holdsworth are exactly the same as majority posted thus far. Even though he is training with us at the moment and it all does sound very positive from a City fan's point of view, I honestly cannot see him signing for the simple fact of dropping down a league wont sound all that appealing to him. I think we can afford him, that there is no question of even if he is asking that little bit too much - It'll all be worth it especially from what i've seen of him so far. I'm trying not to get to overly excited on the matter but where and who he signs for, will all be revealed by the end of the week - His words, not mine. He could be the difference between a top 7 or an automatic finish. With all this speculation following him around, he'll probably end up signing for someone like bloody Tranmere or Yeovil or some other tinpot, no potential club just because it's League One fricking football as apposed to League Two. |
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