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Post by C.H on Jul 21, 2016 22:01:00 GMT 1
for me its scannell and has to start going to be a problem picking the 3 behind wells i would go for
bunn palmer scannell
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2016 22:03:08 GMT 1
Bunn?
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Post by C.H on Jul 21, 2016 22:03:56 GMT 1
bunn??
bunn ahead of vlp and lolley
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Post by k1man999 on Jul 21, 2016 22:04:24 GMT 1
I'd actually like t see Lolley have a go on the left see if he can go on the outside n deliver with his left peg
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2016 22:04:56 GMT 1
I dont think any of them are anywhere near consistent enough but you could level that at any winger i guess
They can all be fantastic for 20 minutes and then useless for 70
Don't be surprised to see Kachunga and Palmer deployed in those positions from time to time although slightly more tucked in
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Post by C.H on Jul 21, 2016 22:06:29 GMT 1
I dont think any of them are anywhere near consistent enough but you could level that at any winger i guess They can all be fantastic for 20 minutes and then useless for 70 Don't be surprised to see Kachunga and Palmer deployed in those positions from time to time although slightly more tucked in thought so thinking that palmer could play on the wing and kachunga
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Post by terrierZed on Jul 21, 2016 22:09:30 GMT 1
Would agree definitely Scannell on his day. Not impressed with VLP from what I've seen. Have to wait and see with Palmer but he certainly looks promising. Agreed wouldn't mind seeing kachunga on the right with Wells up top, hopefully get to see them on the pitch together rather than just one or the other. I do rate Bunn and Lolley too but I doubt they'd get near any of the starting XI's for any top half sides in this division.
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Jul 21, 2016 22:11:35 GMT 1
Only Scannell can be described as a winger in the old sense whereby the main aim was to supply crosses for the forwards. The others are attacking wide men who like to cut inside with a view getting a shot off.
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Post by Giggity on Jul 21, 2016 22:12:51 GMT 1
None of them look like scoring 5 goals a season let alone 10. Need to find their shooting boots pronto as we can't rely on Wells for the goals again. Would go for VLP, Palmer and Scannell first.
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Post by townrwe on Jul 21, 2016 22:15:21 GMT 1
Cant believe its not been addressed in this window..... it could be a case of yet. But if we have any offers on any of our wingers we should take it up.
The lack of assists from them is worrying and when you consider bunn is actually the most effective it shows how weak we are in that area.
For me its an area we should have looked at.. and unless van la parra suddenly finds another level then we are weak on the wings.
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Post by goodshot (FGS) on Jul 21, 2016 22:27:16 GMT 1
Cant believe its not been addressed in this window..... it could be a case of yet. But if we have any offers on any of our wingers we should take it up. The lack of assists from them is worrying and when you consider bunn is actually the most effective it shows how weak we are in that area. For me its an area we should have looked at.. and unless van la parra suddenly finds another level then we are weak on the wings. Bunn was third in the division in assists? So a lot of teams must be worse off than us? I said at the time of his transfer that VLP wasn't up to much - maybe he just needs more time with DW.
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Post by Jello Biafra on Jul 21, 2016 22:28:26 GMT 1
for me its scannell and has to start going to be a problem picking the 3 behind wells i would go for bunn palmer scannell Tell me, does the word 'punctuation' mean anything at all to you?
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Post by TerrierSince89 on Jul 21, 2016 22:40:33 GMT 1
It's weird how differently people see the same things as thought van la parra will give us something diff as he can cut inside with close control but also use pace on the outside whereas scannell seems behind the play a lot just stood waiting and seems to be struggling to adapt to the new style and hasn't reached his form under Powell where his instruction seemed to be head down and just run which plays to his strengths. wouldn't be looking to off load scannell at all but if the rumours of Paterson r true then it would be scannell (having not included Palmer as never seen him play) that wud make way for him.
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Post by allan 1958 (OAF-WROY)(SSLFF) on Jul 21, 2016 22:46:55 GMT 1
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Post by shatterrier on Jul 21, 2016 23:16:29 GMT 1
for me its scannell and has to start going to be a problem picking the 3 behind wells i would go for bunn palmer scannell Tell me, does the word 'punctuation' mean anything at all to you? Tell me,,,,,,, does it really!!!!matter??? the post ain;t hard to understand
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2016 23:23:29 GMT 1
Tell me, does the word 'punctuation' mean anything at all to you? Tell me,,,,,,, does it really!!!!matter??? the post ain;t hard to understand Pardon?
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Post by waltzingthecowshed on Jul 21, 2016 23:24:05 GMT 1
scannell mooy palmer behind nakhi
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Post by wigster on Jul 21, 2016 23:36:21 GMT 1
I think Lolley was slightly lucky last season in that at times he had no competition - this season he surely has to be more consistent, within games and from game to game, or else shouldn't get a look in. Bunn for me is nowhere near a championship player and I'd hoped that with so many new signings he could have a period out on loan somewhere - couldn't see a Championship side considering him. Van LP has to apply himself and not lose possession so much (he worked hard for 20 minutes last night then stopped) so I suppose Scannell could be the man - I think this season is make-or-break for him as far as his career at Town is concerned.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2016 23:38:50 GMT 1
Cant believe its not been addressed in this window..... it could be a case of yet. But if we have any offers on any of our wingers we should take it up. The lack of assists from them is worrying and when you consider bunn is actually the most effective it shows how weak we are in that area. For me its an area we should have looked at.. and unless van la parra suddenly finds another level then we are weak on the wings. Palmer, Payne, VLP brought in and you don't think it's been addressed? You have to give these lads a chance.
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Post by Porrohman on Jul 21, 2016 23:41:44 GMT 1
The problem with Scanz in our system is we need the 3 supporting the striker to weigh in with goals too and during his career he's shown himself to be awful at finishing
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Post by richhtfc on Jul 21, 2016 23:42:31 GMT 1
Took a while to get going last night but VLP was still the most dangerous player we had against them, he's got loads more class that the rest of our wingers if he can be bothered. I think he's up for it and you're all gonna be eating your words in the next few months.
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Post by Headless Chicken on Jul 21, 2016 23:42:54 GMT 1
Cant believe its not been addressed in this window..... it could be a case of yet. But if we have any offers on any of our wingers we should take it up. The lack of assists from them is worrying and when you consider bunn is actually the most effective it shows how weak we are in that area. For me its an area we should have looked at.. and unless van la parra suddenly finds another level then we are weak on the wings. Bunn was third in the division in assists? So a lot of teams must be worse off than us? I said at the time of his transfer that VLP wasn't up to much - maybe he just needs more time with DW. Nakhi missed a boat load of chances and our wide men don't provide any ammunition. Something doesn't add up!!!
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Post by Headless Chicken on Jul 21, 2016 23:50:45 GMT 1
I think Lolley was slightly lucky last season in that at times he had no competition - this season he surely has to be more consistent, within games and from game to game, or else shouldn't get a look in. Bunn for me is nowhere near a championship player and I'd hoped that with so many new signings he could have a period out on loan somewhere - couldn't see a Championship side considering him. Van LP has to apply himself and not lose possession so much (he worked hard for 20 minutes last night then stopped) so I suppose Scannell could be the man - I think this season is make-or-break for him as far as his career at Town is concerned. I can understand people not being keen on Bunn because of his cumbersome style, which seemed to get worse as the season went on, and from that don't see him as a starter myself, but what I don't get is the extreme view that he his 'nowhere near' Championship standard. How the hell can he have stats right up with the very best in the division if he is nowhere near the standard of the division he is playing. Typical of many on this forum really, no shades of grey.
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Post by goodshot (FGS) on Jul 22, 2016 0:15:18 GMT 1
Took a while to get going last night but VLP was still the most dangerous player we had against them, he's got loads more class that the rest of our wingers if he can be bothered. I think he's up for it and you're all gonna be eating your words in the next few months. Hope you are right and I'd like him to succeed. He seems to have similar problems to our other wide men. Compare them to a wide man like Gary Roberts. Non of our wide men have his nous/football brain, but a shame Roberts didn't have their touch of pace, strength or physicality. If Roberts had a yard more pace he would have been a Premiership regular. I have a bit of forlorn hope that DW can get some of that nous into Lolley, Scannell, VLP or Bunn! I suppose Pilks had a bit of everything and that was enough to get him a go in the Premiership. I guess what I'm talking myself round to saying is that non of our wide men now are as good as Pilks and Roberts were in Div 1?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2016 0:48:00 GMT 1
It's weird how differently people see the same things as thought van la parra will give us something diff as he can cut inside with close control but also use pace on the outside whereas scannell seems behind the play a lot just stood waiting and seems to be struggling to adapt to the new style and hasn't reached his form under Powell where his instruction seemed to be head down and just run which plays to his strengths. wouldn't be looking to off load scannell at all but if the rumours of Paterson r true then it would be scannell (having not included Palmer as never seen him play) that wud make way for him. What rumours of Paterson? And why would a wide player like Scannell make way for a number 10 in the middle like Paterson? And why would we be interested in a number 10 like Paterson who would be third best in that role?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2016 0:49:47 GMT 1
Bunn was third in the division in assists? So a lot of teams must be worse off than us? I said at the time of his transfer that VLP wasn't up to much - maybe he just needs more time with DW. Nakhi missed a boat load of chances and our wide men don't provide any ammunition. Something doesn't add up!!! Our chances came through the middle.
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Post by Tinpot on Jul 22, 2016 1:08:02 GMT 1
I don't know who our best 2 wingers are. I could make arguments for and against each of them and each of those arguments could well be dismantled 3 months from now. Each has strengths and weaknesses that aren't in the others.
I think we need to get away from thinking which is our best xi. Our best xi for our opening game against Brentford may be wildly different from our best xi for our game against (say) Cardiff in November.
My gut feeling is for RVLP and Scanz but if it's Bunn and Lolley lining up on opening day I'm not going to tear my hair out over it.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2016 1:19:47 GMT 1
None of them look like scoring 5 goals a season let alone 10. Need to find their shooting boots pronto as we can't rely on Wells for the goals again. Would go for VLP, Palmer and Scannell first. Agree not enough goals from any of our wide men. VLP & Lolley could be the men this year. One things for sure we have genuine championship standard options in attacking positions this year.
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Post by kiaterrier on Jul 22, 2016 2:30:29 GMT 1
McHale, O'Grady and Hill
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Post by Morning Norwood on Jul 22, 2016 7:04:32 GMT 1
People always talk about Scannell on his day being good!
When do these days happen though?
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