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Post by Essex Terrier on Dec 19, 2017 20:40:00 GMT 1
Wells has gone from being almost on the football scrap heap, to being offered deals at 2 Premier Leagiue clubs in the space of about 7 years. Reckon he’s made some cracking decisions myself. As did a certain J Rhodes then? Good financial decisions are not always good career decisions. I wish Nahki well, think he would have been a very useful squad member and hope he does well for Burnley, for himself and Yes, even for those knuckle draggers up the M606.
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Post by AndySk on Dec 19, 2017 20:54:29 GMT 1
I like Nahki, did a good job for us for a few years and was a big part of our best season for many a year. Would like to see him get his chance in the prem. Would definitely take Depotrie and Mounie over him tho
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Post by space hardware on Dec 19, 2017 21:07:42 GMT 1
Just reading "Underdog" and it's surprising on how many occasions he rescued a draw or won a game for us. Underated perhaps by some. I think the main reason he left was because he wasn't quite what DW was looking for, especially if you compare him with the two strikers he brought in. Did you finish that book in 20 minutes? Picked it up in Waterstones for a browse the other day, the typeface is huge, there were only about 20 words on each page!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2017 21:10:32 GMT 1
I’ll be a lone voice here but I’m really surprised Burnley haven’t at least thrown him on for 20 minutes like at Brighton for example. He’s rapid and brilliant at closing down defenders and forcing mistakes. He does inwk where the goal is albeit his stats weren’t great last year. Wood decent, Barnes decent and both decent finishers as is Vokes but Wells offers something different to all those three- touch, pace and movement. Just something different to throw at teams late on as defenders tire.
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Post by El Mel on Dec 19, 2017 21:12:43 GMT 1
Wells has gone from being almost on the football scrap heap, to being offered deals at 2 Premier Leagiue clubs in the space of about 7 years. Reckon he’s made some cracking decisions myself. As did a certain J Rhodes then? Good financial decisions are not always good career decisions. I wish Nahki well, think he would have been a very useful squad member and hope he does well for Burnley, for himself and Yes, even for those knuckle draggers up the M606. I suspect Nahki and Jordan both know, despite what they may say about "wanting to play at the highest level", that they aren't really good enough to cut it. If they can milk a few million quid out of their faux potential, then I say well done to them.
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Post by goodshot (FGS) on Dec 19, 2017 21:20:11 GMT 1
Who is third-choice striker now behind De Poitre and Mounie? I think both Burnley and yourselves could do with a better striker - only 16 goals each in 18 games:( Our striker position has scored 9 goals this season. Not many Premiership strikers above that. It's not where we are lacking for goals.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2017 21:20:59 GMT 1
I’ll be a lone voice here but I’m really surprised Burnley haven’t at least thrown him on for 20 minutes like at Brighton for example. He’s rapid and brilliant at closing down defenders and forcing mistakes. He does inwk where the goal is albeit his stats weren’t great last year. Wood decent, Barnes decent and both decent finishers as is Vokes but Wells offers something different to all those three- touch, pace and movement. Just something different to throw at teams late on as defenders tire. Rapid? I'm sure I saw you describing Ince as quick on another thread too At Premier League level Wells has average pace and Ince is quite slow. Rapid is Sterling, Sane, Mane etc and Wells would get nowhere close to them in a race
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Post by goodshot (FGS) on Dec 19, 2017 21:21:28 GMT 1
I’ll be a lone voice here but I’m really surprised Burnley haven’t at least thrown him on for 20 minutes like at Brighton for example. He’s rapid and brilliant at closing down defenders and forcing mistakes. He does inwk where the goal is albeit his stats weren’t great last year. Wood decent, Barnes decent and both decent finishers as is Vokes but Wells offers something different to all those three- touch, pace and movement. Just something different to throw at teams late on as defenders tire. He'll have forgotten all that by now. It didn't come natural to him.
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Dec 19, 2017 21:51:44 GMT 1
Which decisions do you think have been bad ? According to D.W he was offered a new contract at town and rejected it, his choice of course and maybe Burnley offered him more and a longer contract. But I always felt he thought he could go on to better things and deserved to. Him being shipped out to Villa makes you think Dyche doesn't fancy him and instead of fighting for a place with us and most likely getting some game time, he ends up back in the championship and most likely plying most of his trade back down there. It's all about opinions and I can't be bothered getting into any debate about him, it's mostly been said and he may have no regrets, but I doubt he will ever play in the Premier league, which ultimately was his dream. Oh right .. so you think leaving town was a mistake ? I don’t think Wagner really fancied him tbh . If he didn’t play for us he certainly wouldn’t have signed him . Not his type of player. not sure why you think dyche doesn’t fancy him ? He did sign him ? I should imagine he wants to get him up to speed physically at Villa ( or wherever ) .. tbh I don’t really think his future will be premier league
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Post by kennyk2 on Dec 19, 2017 22:03:20 GMT 1
Just reading "Underdog" and it's surprising on how many occasions he rescued a draw or won a game for us. Underated perhaps by some. I think the main reason he left was because he wasn't quite what DW was looking for, especially if you compare him with the two strikers he brought in. Did you finish that book in 20 minutes? Picked it up in Waterstones for a browse the other day, the typeface is huge, there were only about 20 words on each page! Off-putting at first, but you get used to it.
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Post by tockyterrier on Dec 19, 2017 22:15:54 GMT 1
Always thought Nahki was one of our best passers of a ball and was a shame he couldn't cross it to himself, because he put better crosses in than VLP normally does. I actually think if he'd stayed, he could have got game time as one of the 3 behind the striker.
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Post by El Mel on Dec 19, 2017 22:22:09 GMT 1
According to D.W he was offered a new contract at town and rejected it, his choice of course and maybe Burnley offered him more and a longer contract. But I always felt he thought he could go on to better things and deserved to. Him being shipped out to Villa makes you think Dyche doesn't fancy him and instead of fighting for a place with us and most likely getting some game time, he ends up back in the championship and most likely plying most of his trade back down there. It's all about opinions and I can't be bothered getting into any debate about him, it's mostly been said and he may have no regrets, but I doubt he will ever play in the Premier league, which ultimately was his dream. Oh right .. so you think leaving town was a mistake ? I don’t think Wagner really fancied him tbh . If he didn’t play for us he certainly wouldn’t have signed him . Not his type of player. not sure why you think dyche doesn’t fancy him ? He did sign him ? I should imagine he wants to get him up to speed physically at Villa ( or wherever ) .. tbh I don’t really think his future will be premier league Wonder if Dyche feels he can mould Wells into another Andre Gray, beef him up a bit, add some power to his style. I honestly don't know why Burnley paid the dosh for him that they did. Whilst he was decent for us, he was never amazing, and not the player I'd have been wanting us to fight tooth and nail to keep once we were promoted.
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Dec 19, 2017 23:08:02 GMT 1
Oh right .. so you think leaving town was a mistake ? I don’t think Wagner really fancied him tbh . If he didn’t play for us he certainly wouldn’t have signed him . Not his type of player. not sure why you think dyche doesn’t fancy him ? He did sign him ? I should imagine he wants to get him up to speed physically at Villa ( or wherever ) .. tbh I don’t really think his future will be premier league Wonder if Dyche feels he can mould Wells into another Andre Gray, beef him up a bit, add some power to his style. I honestly don't know why Burnley paid the dosh for him that they did. Whilst he was decent for us, he was never amazing, and not the player I'd have been wanting us to fight tooth and nail to keep once we were promoted. Indeed .. I really like Nahki but this season is a step up and possibly a step too far for him ... if Dyche can mould him Into a premier league player like he did with Arfield then top marks .. Wagner made him a far better all round player than when he first joined but I think he will be grinning about getting in Mounie and LDP and letting Nahki go
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2017 23:18:21 GMT 1
I’ll be a lone voice here but I’m really surprised Burnley haven’t at least thrown him on for 20 minutes like at Brighton for example. He’s rapid and brilliant at closing down defenders and forcing mistakes. He does inwk where the goal is albeit his stats weren’t great last year. Wood decent, Barnes decent and both decent finishers as is Vokes but Wells offers something different to all those three- touch, pace and movement. Just something different to throw at teams late on as defenders tire. Rapid? I'm sure I saw you describing Ince as quick on another thread too At Premier League level Wells has average pace and Ince is quite slow. Rapid is Sterling, Sane, Mane etc and Wells would get nowhere close to them in a race Nor would he ever have to. He’d have had to have he pace to beat Dunk, Shawcross, williams, lascelles, mawson, Reid etc etc. Top 6 is a different league in real terms. They’re like cup games still. Odds against getting anything. At the Premier level we’re fighting at 7 and below Vlp is quick, Wells is pretty quick and Ince is decent in the pace department.
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Post by Dillinger on Dec 19, 2017 23:21:33 GMT 1
Wonder if Dyche feels he can mould Wells into another Andre Gray, beef him up a bit, add some power to his style. I honestly don't know why Burnley paid the dosh for him that they did. Whilst he was decent for us, he was never amazing, and not the player I'd have been wanting us to fight tooth and nail to keep once we were promoted. Indeed .. I really like Nahki but this season is a step up and possibly a step too far for him ... if Dyche can mould him Into a premier league player like he did with Arfield then top marks .. Wagner made him a far better all round player than when he first joined but I think he will be grinning about getting in Mounie and LDP and letting Nahki go Yes and no, whilst I am very happy with M&D as our two strikers, who would say no to having Nahki on the bench now as an option. £5m was a good price, but presumably it was more about him leaving than us wanting to sell. Don’t think it was needing to sell Wells to get Mounie and Depoitre in.. Personally, I love wells, really like the guy and wish him better luck for the rest of the season. It’d be away at Millwall this weekend were it not for him last season...
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Post by sabailand on Dec 19, 2017 23:27:57 GMT 1
Just reading "Underdog" and it's surprising on how many occasions he rescued a draw or won a game for us. Underated perhaps by some. I think the main reason he left was because he wasn't quite what DW was looking for, especially if you compare him with the two strikers he brought in. Did you finish that book in 20 minutes? Picked it up in Waterstones for a browse the other day, the typeface is huge, there were only about 20 words on each page! Ditto,i did the same,wont take long to read that!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2017 23:34:06 GMT 1
Also people moaning about Moonie’s desire to chase lost causes, Wells did it thanklessly for half a season before we got Brown in and finally someone ran beyond him. Some of the movement and play between Mooy, Brown and Wells was delicious at times, like Brighton at home. Plus he saved his best performance for the play off semi final second leg. Monumental effort from nahki that night. Hope he gets a chance at Burnley rather than slogging it out again in the lower leagues.
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Post by lindleyite on Dec 19, 2017 23:49:42 GMT 1
Actually think Wells would be good with Woods, always needed a big man up front with him in my opinion.
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Post by Doc Halladay 32 on Dec 19, 2017 23:57:25 GMT 1
Truth is Nahki was never the striker that DW saw as pivotal in his system - the thwarted attempts to sign Terodde and Uth meant that Nahki knew his card was marked, the subsequent signings of Depoitre and Mounié just reinforced this.
He did a great job and worked his socks off and raised his stock with our promotion season that got him a PL contract befitting a £5M player at Burnley.
I don't think Town's contract offer would have been anywhere near as good as the one Burnley offered.
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Post by lancyclaret on Dec 20, 2017 0:26:47 GMT 1
Wells has been a bit unlucky...injury and no pre-season training to speak of. At the moment, Wood is Dyche's No 1, but he has been off the boil in the last 3/4 games and Ashley Barnes has been our best striker usually coming on as a sub (he really upsets defenders and will run through a brick wall for the cause).
Sam Vokes, who never lets anyone down, has dropped to No 3 in the pecking order - great in the air but lacks Barnes's aggression and nasty streak. No-one enjoys playing against Barnes, but AB is nowhere near as good a finisher as Wood.
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Post by The-Crab on Dec 20, 2017 0:28:41 GMT 1
According to D.W he was offered a new contract at town and rejected it, his choice of course and maybe Burnley offered him more and a longer contract. But I always felt he thought he could go on to better things and deserved to. Him being shipped out to Villa makes you think Dyche doesn't fancy him and instead of fighting for a place with us and most likely getting some game time, he ends up back in the championship and most likely plying most of his trade back down there. It's all about opinions and I can't be bothered getting into any debate about him, it's mostly been said and he may have no regrets, but I doubt he will ever play in the Premier league, which ultimately was his dream. Oh right .. so you think leaving town was a mistake ? I don’t think Wagner really fancied him tbh . If he didn’t play for us he certainly wouldn’t have signed him . Not his type of player. not sure why you think dyche doesn’t fancy him ? He did sign him ? I should imagine he wants to get him up to speed physically at Villa ( or wherever ) .. tbh I don’t really think his future will be premier league He was injured, just like Mounie was for us for a long period of time, it's no reason to send them out on loan to get back up to speed. It's an opinion and not fact, as I am not privy to Dyches thoughts on him, but it seems to me he is happy with what he has got up front, maybe not happy with what he has seen of Wells in training and doesn't want someone who will not be playing taking up a wage bill, hence the supposed loan. We will see if he makes it in the premier league, but my thoughts are that he won't and he may end up back in the Championship, hands will be held up if I'm wrong.
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Dec 20, 2017 0:47:22 GMT 1
I agree with most of that ... I think if you could loan out players for a month in November like you used to be able to then Wagner might have .. getting him up to speed appears to have been a challenge .. although with Nahki it’s maybe more if a challenge as he is 4th ? down the pecking order
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Post by Boothys Knees on Dec 20, 2017 7:44:59 GMT 1
Another player who took bad advice from his agent when a decent offer was on the table
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Post by teddytheterrier on Dec 20, 2017 8:37:09 GMT 1
Nahkis agent will be along shortly to tell us that we are going down and that Nahki is the best striker in the premier league.
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Dec 20, 2017 8:38:40 GMT 1
Not the best if he can't get a game and has to go on loan,
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Post by joeyjoneslocker on Dec 20, 2017 8:46:42 GMT 1
You sound like 2 ashes! Who on that shit team is a true town player? who? Moody? nope! Kachinga? nooooooooo! VanLaCriar? noooooo! Smith? noooooo! Kasey? noooo!. definately not. You pusbabies are jealous of Wells. You all dislike Wells. He is a friggin Bermudian. why the fk does he have to like Huddershit? He been there, done that and QUIETLY and POLITELY moved on. Hell, what's it to like bout that shit town. The new boss ONLY wanted GERMANS. Wells got brains. he saw the b.s. and got the eff on. Now next year he will be Premier league and u be in Shit Champs. move on, by the way a great game tonight Wells, hattrick in a rehab game. Huddersfield. bunch of pussies!
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Post by upthetown on Dec 20, 2017 8:53:41 GMT 1
You sound like 2 ashes! Who on that shit team is a true town player? who? Moody? nope! Kachinga? nooooooooo! VanLaCriar? noooooo! Smith? noooooo! Kasey? noooo!. definately not. You pusbabies are jealous of Wells. You all dislike Wells. He is a friggin Bermudian. why the fk does he have to like Huddershit? He been there, done that and QUIETLY and POLITELY moved on. Hell, what's it to like bout that shit town. The new boss ONLY wanted GERMANS. Wells got brains. he saw the b.s. and got the eff on. Now next year he will be Premier league and u be in Shit Champs. move on, by the way a great game tonight Wells, hattrick in a rehab game. Huddersfield. bunch of pussies! Kachinga and Moody? His agent is Ian Wright? Would be quite amusing if he ended up on loan in the championship and we stayed up based on this clowns comments
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Post by Tinpot on Dec 20, 2017 14:32:27 GMT 1
Which of Mounie & Depoitre would he get in the side ahead of?
How many minutes have we had neither Mounie nor Depoitre on the pitch? That's how many minutes we could expect to have seen Nahki Wells play for us this season. I like him, I wish him well & he was a big reason why we are where we are, but he was right to move on. Another PL club came in for him & so he went for it. That club is surpassing even the most diehard Burnley fans expectations & NW isn't getting a look in.
Rumours of him joining Villa & that seems a good fit. Going for promotion, offers something a bit different to what they already have. Good luck to him.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2017 14:39:09 GMT 1
Which of Mounie & Depoitre would he get in the side ahead of? How many minutes have we had neither Mounie nor Depoitre on the pitch? That's how many minutes we could expect to have seen Nahki Wells play for us this season. I like him, I wish him well & he was a big reason why we are where we are, but he was right to move on. Another PL club came in for him & so he went for it. That club is surpassing even the most diehard Burnley fans expectations & NW isn't getting a look in. Rumours of him joining Villa & that seems a good fit. Going for promotion, offers something a bit different to what they already have. Good luck to him. Do we have a sell on clause?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2017 14:53:59 GMT 1
Still maintain he could have done a job as a No.10, spent most of last season dropping deep for the ball and he's a decent passer too. Could've have come in handy this season considering.
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