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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2017 19:00:28 GMT 1
Disappointing performance today, we know we have to win games against Burnley and Stoke, no disrespect to them two. Today we were poor, no ball retention, no fluidity, no attacking purpose, Depoitre looked shagged out. Fair play to Burnley though they pressed us and probably should have won. We need to be more positive at home. Another thing I noticed today was the poor decision making in significant areas of the pitch, turning back or making the wrong pass. To be ultra positive today we haven't lost, nor conceded and have gained another point. Burnley are a very different proposition to Stoke this season. You’re doing Burnley a massive disservice there.
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Post by Made In Yorkshire on Dec 30, 2017 19:03:31 GMT 1
I make the prediction that we will not be first on MOTD tonight.
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Post by pieeater on Dec 30, 2017 19:04:32 GMT 1
Disappointing performance today, we know we have to win games against Burnley and Stoke, no disrespect to them two. Today we were poor, no ball retention, no fluidity, no attacking purpose, Depoitre looked shagged out. Fair play to Burnley though they pressed us and probably should have won. We need to be more positive at home. Another thing I noticed today was the poor decision making in significant areas of the pitch, turning back or making the wrong pass. To be ultra positive today we haven't lost, nor conceded and have gained another point. Stupid attitude, with respect, but hardly surprising from the king of negativity. We have to win games against Burnley, who, the table says, are very clearly the best side in the league outside the 'big six'? Rubbish. A very good point, hard earned.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2017 19:05:12 GMT 1
I make the prediction that we will not be first on MOTD tonight. Wouldn’t blame them for skipping that game altogether. Scrappy boring game.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2017 19:08:42 GMT 1
Its very easy to say Rip off at the price of almost anything, but i honestly dont think Huddersfield Town have shown any genuine example of this. Oh unless you want to buy Christopher Schindler Its very easy to say its a rip off price beacause it is ! Its been 3.50 all season. How many more celebratory products do we need ? Mega money spent at Christmas, season cards in January. Milking it pal if you want one for £3.50 i'll give you the £1.50 ......pal you tight knacker!
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Post by explorer on Dec 30, 2017 19:08:43 GMT 1
Really poor today. Struggled to pass 5 yards yet were attempting flicks every 2 minutes. Worst game I've seen Depiitre have, Ince far too deep, wingers and full backs totally ineffective. Fair play to Lolley who I thought did well when he came on - expect him to start on Monday. Looked like a penalty to them. Yellow card inconsistency still as infuriating as ever. How Lolley got booked when Arfield got away with that assault first half, or the 2 cynical fouls by their defenders as we were breaking, or Schindler's very late foul, is a mystery to everyone except Mr Tierney. I doubt Lolley will get a start until Bolton unless we have injuries. He may have got a lot of his fitness back, but his lack of concentration in his position keeping and being weak in the tackle when tracking back doesn't help his case for a starting berth in the league. Impact sub at best IMO
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Post by ACW on Dec 30, 2017 19:11:09 GMT 1
Well, that was a crap match to watch! Reminded me of our time in League One - unable to string two passes together and struggling to play against a physical long ball side who stopped us playing. Infact, the whole game reminded me of a League One match - not too much controlled football on show at all.
Credit to Burnley. They completely shut us down in the first half, and stopped us creating anything meaningful in the second half. They were strong, quick and cut off all our passing options. When they got on the ball they tended to hit it long and high, but they were effective with these tactics. We certainly struggled to contain them and were very, very fortunate to get a point. Dyche has done a magnificent job at Burnley, but give me Wagner's style of football any day.
I think we just accept today was a poor performance against opponents who knew how to stop us playing. They asked us plenty of questions, but we had few answers. It was definately a point gained - particularly as they had all the good chances and looked to have a very good shout for a penalty turned down. We struggled to contain their direct play and power, and lost far too many individual battles. We improved after the break, but we still looked ineffective up front and fragile at the back.
I think we accept the point gratefully, realise we were playing against a really tough side who have taken points from far better teams than us this season, and move on. Alot of us thought we had a good chance of winning today, but in the end we were lucky not to get beaten.
I thought Depoitre, Hogg and Mooy (in the second half) were stand out performers, and there were average performances from most of the rest of the team. Ince obviously had a stinker (wonder if he was ill?) and the starting fullbacks struggled, but they were far from alone. Lolley did ok when he came on, but it wasn't his sort of game at all.
Finally, did Dyche ever stop flapping his hands and wittering at the fourth official all game?
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Post by townrwe on Dec 30, 2017 19:12:35 GMT 1
Credit to burnley they played like the home side. Best team ive seen outside the top 6 and testement to why they are 7th. They will go home disappointed where as we will be pretty happy with that point.
So all in all, where happier than them and therefor it was a good result for us.
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Post by ACW on Dec 30, 2017 19:15:23 GMT 1
Credit to burnley they played like the home side. Best team ive seen outside the top 6 and testement to why they are 7th. They will go home disappointed where as we will be pretty happy with that point. So all in all, where happier than them and therefor it was a good result for us. Considering how the game went it was a VERY good result for us. Has anyone seen a replay of the penalty incident in the second half? It looked a certain penalty to me, but the ref had a better view, and I haven't seen it since.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2017 19:16:40 GMT 1
Well, that was a crap match to watch! Reminded me of our time in League One - unable to string two passes together and struggling to play against a physical long ball side who stopped us playing. Infact, the whole game reminded me of a League One match - not too much controlled football on show at all. Credit to Burnley. They completely shut us down in the first half, and stopped us creating anything meaningful in the second half. They were strong, quick and cut off all our passing options. When they got on the ball they tended to hit it long and high, but they were effective with these tactics. We certainly struggled to contain them and were very, very fortunate to get a point. Dyche has done a magnificent job at Burnley, but give me Wagner's style of football any day. I think we just accept today was a poor performance against opponents who knew how to stop us playing. They asked us plenty of questions, but we had few answers. It was definately a point gained - particularly as they had all the good chances and looked to have a very good shout for a penalty turned down. We struggled to contain their direct play and power, and lost far too many individual battles. We improved after the break, but we still looked ineffective up front and fragile at the back. I think we accept the point gratefully, realise we were playing against a really tough side who have taken points from far better teams than us this season, and move on. Alot of us thought we had a good chance of winning today, but in the end we were lucky not to get beaten. I thought Depoitre, Hogg and Mooy (in the second half) were stand out performers, and there were average performances from most of the rest of the team. Ince obviously had a stinker (wonder if he was ill?) and the starting fullbacks struggled, but they were far from alone. Lolley did ok when he came on, but it wasn't his sort of game at all. Finally, did Dyche ever stop flapping his hands and wittering at the fourth official all game? Lolley best player in a Town shirt today. Looked very lively and made things happen. Thought Depoitre had a shocker although the service wasn't great. Mounie would have got pelters for a performance like that
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Post by impact on Dec 30, 2017 19:16:47 GMT 1
Really poor today. Struggled to pass 5 yards yet were attempting flicks every 2 minutes. Worst game I've seen Depiitre have, Ince far too deep, wingers and full backs totally ineffective. Fair play to Lolley who I thought did well when he came on - expect him to start on Monday. Looked like a penalty to them. Yellow card inconsistency still as infuriating as ever. How Lolley got booked when Arfield got away with that assault first half, or the 2 cynical fouls by their defenders as we were breaking, or Schindler's very late foul, is a mystery to everyone except Mr Tierney. I doubt Lolley will get a start until Bolton unless we have injuries. He may have got a lot of his fitness back, but his lack of concentration in his position keeping and being weak in the tackle when tracking back doesn't help his case for a starting berth in the league. Impact sub at best IMO He did very well defensively today. Snuffed out 3 or 4 of their attacks and set up ours.
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Post by explorer on Dec 30, 2017 19:20:34 GMT 1
I doubt Lolley will get a start until Bolton unless we have injuries. He may have got a lot of his fitness back, but his lack of concentration in his position keeping and being weak in the tackle when tracking back doesn't help his case for a starting berth in the league. Impact sub at best IMO He did very well defensively today. Snuffed out 3 or 4 of their attacks and set up ours. One swallow does not a summer make😉 Fair play to Joe if he does perform, but still looks like a boy in a man's game to me.
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Post by ACW on Dec 30, 2017 19:21:15 GMT 1
Well, that was a crap match to watch! Reminded me of our time in League One - unable to string two passes together and struggling to play against a physical long ball side who stopped us playing. Infact, the whole game reminded me of a League One match - not too much controlled football on show at all. Credit to Burnley. They completely shut us down in the first half, and stopped us creating anything meaningful in the second half. They were strong, quick and cut off all our passing options. When they got on the ball they tended to hit it long and high, but they were effective with these tactics. We certainly struggled to contain them and were very, very fortunate to get a point. Dyche has done a magnificent job at Burnley, but give me Wagner's style of football any day. I think we just accept today was a poor performance against opponents who knew how to stop us playing. They asked us plenty of questions, but we had few answers. It was definately a point gained - particularly as they had all the good chances and looked to have a very good shout for a penalty turned down. We struggled to contain their direct play and power, and lost far too many individual battles. We improved after the break, but we still looked ineffective up front and fragile at the back. I think we accept the point gratefully, realise we were playing against a really tough side who have taken points from far better teams than us this season, and move on. Alot of us thought we had a good chance of winning today, but in the end we were lucky not to get beaten. I thought Depoitre, Hogg and Mooy (in the second half) were stand out performers, and there were average performances from most of the rest of the team. Ince obviously had a stinker (wonder if he was ill?) and the starting fullbacks struggled, but they were far from alone. Lolley did ok when he came on, but it wasn't his sort of game at all. Finally, did Dyche ever stop flapping his hands and wittering at the fourth official all game? Lolley best player in a Town shirt today. Looked very lively and made things happen. Thought Depoitre had a shocker although the service wasn't great. Mounie would have got pelters for a performance like that I've seen Depoitre play far better, but in a poor team performance he never stopped working and battling for the ball - against tough opponents and with fuck all service. In the first half he took a high ball down, beat a man and laid a perfect ball to Ince - who waited for it and had it taken off him by a Burnley defender. What can Depoitre do when he gets bugger all help like that? Ince had a shocker - and Wagner obviously agreed. I would argue Malone had a bit of a shocker too. Depoitre did not IMO. He put a decent shift in a tough game with little or no support.
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Post by impact on Dec 30, 2017 19:24:22 GMT 1
He did very well defensively today. Snuffed out 3 or 4 of their attacks and set up ours. One swallow does not a summer make😉 Fair play to Joe if he does perform, but still looks like a boy in a man's game to me. You must be basing it off games from a fair while ago, because no one who has seen his recent performances could in their right mind say he has been a boy in a man's game based off those. Unless that person had an immovable opinion on him, of course.
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Post by Stewpot on Dec 30, 2017 19:26:37 GMT 1
I was convinced he'd given a penalty. Vocal bloke in the RWU was lambasting Dyche for having the audacity to encourage his players to dive after the incident at Turf Moor ! Meanwhile I just breathed a sigh of relief.
I would have settled for 4 points from our 2 holiday home games. I would always have settled for a point v Burnley, expected 3 from Stoke, and it should have been. We were dominant on Boxing Day, today probably the worst home performance of the season by some distance. Credit to Burnley though, you can see why they are enjoying such a successful season.
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Post by htfc1984 on Dec 30, 2017 19:27:44 GMT 1
Lolley really impressing me recently. Thoroughly deserves his chance.
On a side note... Anyone still think Malone is better than Löwe?
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Post by Essex Terrier on Dec 30, 2017 19:29:36 GMT 1
Really poor today. Struggled to pass 5 yards yet were attempting flicks every 2 minutes. Worst game I've seen Depiitre have, Ince far too deep, wingers and full backs totally ineffective. Fair play to Lolley who I thought did well when he came on - expect him to start on Monday. Looked like a penalty to them. Yellow card inconsistency still as infuriating as ever. How Lolley got booked when Arfield got away with that assault first half, or the 2 cynical fouls by their defenders as we were breaking, or Schindler's very late foul, is a mystery to everyone except Mr Tierney. I doubt Lolley will get a start until Bolton unless we have injuries. He may have got a lot of his fitness back, but his lack of concentration in his position keeping and being weak in the tackle when tracking back doesn't help his case for a starting berth in the league. Impact sub at best IMO Certainly made an impact today.
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Post by willo on Dec 30, 2017 19:33:05 GMT 1
Lolley really impressing me recently. Thoroughly deserves his chance. On a side note... Anyone still think Malone is better than Löwe? Lowe everytime for me if fit & available but Malone decent back-up.
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Post by ACW on Dec 30, 2017 19:33:19 GMT 1
Lolley really impressing me recently. Thoroughly deserves his chance. On a side note... Anyone still think Malone is better than Löwe? Not based on what I've seen this season I'm afraid.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2017 19:35:08 GMT 1
Lolley really impressing me recently. Thoroughly deserves his chance. On a side note... Anyone still think Malone is better than Löwe? Not based on what I've seen this season I'm afraid. Neither are good enough at this level. Different weaknesses but both always look like an accident waiting to happen
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Post by hypotenuse on Dec 30, 2017 19:36:08 GMT 1
My first sight of Lolley since an appalling display at Brum last April. He really impressed me today and was probably our most creative and (hard to believe) combative player in his 35 minutes or so on the pitch.
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Dec 30, 2017 19:36:11 GMT 1
Disappointing performance today, we know we have to win games against Burnley and Stoke, no disrespect to them two. Today we were poor, no ball retention, no fluidity, no attacking purpose, Depoitre looked shagged out. Fair play to Burnley though they pressed us and probably should have won. We need to be more positive at home. Another thing I noticed today was the poor decision making in significant areas of the pitch, turning back or making the wrong pass. To be ultra positive today we haven't lost, nor conceded and have gained another point. Stupid attitude, with respect, but hardly surprising from the king of negativity. We have to win games against Burnley, who, the table says, are very clearly the best side in the league outside the 'big six'? Rubbish. A very good point, hard earned. Are they hell the best team outside the top 6. The league table might suggest that but are they fuck as like. They rely on average players working hard and being super organised, they are workmanlike at best. Teams like Everton and Leicester have far more quality players. Jeez. Like I said today though they played well and should have won. We'll take the point but like I said, we should be looking to win that today and busting our balls to do so.
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Post by willo on Dec 30, 2017 19:36:58 GMT 1
I doubt Lolley will get a start until Bolton unless we have injuries. He may have got a lot of his fitness back, but his lack of concentration in his position keeping and being weak in the tackle when tracking back doesn't help his case for a starting berth in the league. Impact sub at best IMO Certainly made an impact today. Lolley on with around 35 mins to go today so more than a 10 minute cameo. Looked lively but still too lightweight for me & delivered only one telling cross. It's a no from me outside of the cup game at Bolton next week.
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Post by willo on Dec 30, 2017 19:40:44 GMT 1
Not based on what I've seen this season I'm afraid. Neither are good enough at this level. Different weaknesses but both always look like an accident waiting to happen The thing is that there are far more pressing positions on the field that require attention before LB so it will be either Lowe or Malone for the foreseeable.
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Post by goodshot (FGS) on Dec 30, 2017 19:40:53 GMT 1
What's the secret of Burnley's success?
My two penneths worth is that they don't really play with wide men like VLP and Big Col, who want to stretch the game out wide. They have in effect four central midfielders and five if you count the bloke in the hole. That allows them to smother teams, but not have too many attacking options.
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Post by explorer on Dec 30, 2017 19:42:31 GMT 1
One swallow does not a summer make😉 Fair play to Joe if he does perform, but still looks like a boy in a man's game to me. You must be basing it off games from a fair while ago, because no one who has seen his recent performances could in their right mind say he has been a boy in a man's game based off those. Unless that person had an immovable opinion on him, of course. A couple of decent cameos and he's turned into Iniesta? Yes of course I'm basing it on historical performances, in the same way that if Mooy had a couple of dud games I wouldn't be basing my opinion of him on those games rather than the last season and a half. In the majority of Joe's historical appearances he has flattered to deceive. Lots of earnest effort and a couple of good goals (in the lower division, not the PL of course) but an equal number of headless chicken runs into nowhere,losing the ball and ending up out way of position. Short of injuries, I can't see him replacing VLP , Ince or Quaner in the starting line up. But if you can, that's fine it's all about opinions. Cup starter (for our one game cup run..) then bench warming for me.
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Post by dumbo on Dec 30, 2017 19:46:08 GMT 1
Very clear penalty. Only a couple of shots on target frons us, I'm happy with the draw. Burnley were decent and difficult.
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Post by htfc1984 on Dec 30, 2017 19:48:16 GMT 1
Sorry if I've missed it somewhere... Why was flo taken off? That knock he took or tactical?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2017 19:49:33 GMT 1
It was a really good point against a side that know what they are all about. It wasn't a great game but it was more fun than shopping or watching reruns of Homes Under the Hammer.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2017 19:50:52 GMT 1
What's the secret of Burnley's success? My two penneths worth is that they don't really play with wide men like VLP and Big Col, who want to stretch the game out wide. They have in effect four central midfielders and five if you count the bloke in the hole. That allows them to smother teams, but not have too many attacking options. And is arguably why we've drawn with each other in both games this season
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