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Post by hdee on Jan 20, 2018 20:54:51 GMT 1
that had us playing this badly and sliding down the league would have had the fans calling for him to get the sack by now, just cos he got us promoted to a higher division surely isnt enough to garantee him job security, Grayson got sacked after getting us promotion so surely wagner should be questioned now too?
or is it a case of he got us to the premier league therefore his job is safe whatever?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2018 20:57:04 GMT 1
FFS...
At least it's not long till the Giants start again eh...
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Post by joeyjoneslocker on Jan 20, 2018 20:57:05 GMT 1
Go away.
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Post by slackjaw on Jan 20, 2018 21:04:18 GMT 1
that had us playing this badly and sliding down the league would have had the fans calling for him to get the sack by now, just cos he got us promoted to a higher division surely isnt enough to garantee him job security, Grayson got sacked after getting us promotion so surely wagner should be questioned now too? or is it a case of he got us to the premier league therefore his job is safe whatever? But no other manager has done what Wagner has done in my lifetime and probably never will do,so yes he deserves a bit of slack. Yes we’re having a bad time just now but there’s only one man to sort things and it’s Wagner! Keep believing mate,Utt! |
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Post by hdee on Jan 20, 2018 21:06:26 GMT 1
I realise i will get shot down but come on lets be realistic we wanted powell clark robins grayson ect sacked for the same kind of results position ect what gives wagner more security just cos he got us promoted to the top league?
we are playing crap getting beat easily and easily gonna get relegated like this surely someone else agrees im not actually asking for him to be sacked just wondering how long does he get before people start to
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Post by deadleg on Jan 20, 2018 21:09:20 GMT 1
"just cos he got us promoted to the top league"
Yeah, just the small matter of him doing that. I don't think he's beyond criticism by any means but he's more than earned the chance to continue learning here.
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Post by hypotenuse on Jan 20, 2018 21:14:09 GMT 1
The OP is a known WUM. Don’t respond - he’s Leeds or Massive. Only ever posts negative anti-Town shite.
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Post by hdee on Jan 20, 2018 21:15:03 GMT 1
"just cos he got us promoted to the top league" Yeah, just the small matter of him doing that. I don't think he's beyond criticism by any means but he's more than earned the chance to continue learning here. could have said the same about grayson, he got us promoted to the division above but was sacked when he couldnt keep it up and we looked like going down |
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Post by hdee on Jan 20, 2018 21:22:26 GMT 1
The OP is a known WUM. Don’t respond - he’s Leeds or Massive. Only ever posts negative anti-Town shite. so all those people who wanted grayson clark etc sacked for the team playing badly and sliding down the league were wums too or is it just those who are know starting to wonder if wagner is the man? if we got relegated and struggled next year i take it anyone suggesting he should go will be a wum or is it ok to want managrs sacked in the champ and why is it everyone who says something negative is classed as a wum leeds or wendesday are town fans not allowed to be critical ? |
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Post by littlerich on Jan 20, 2018 21:29:27 GMT 1
bet Burnley fans are glad they stuck with Dyche
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Post by tockyterrier on Jan 20, 2018 21:29:46 GMT 1
Wondered when this would start. I said on the way home from Wembley that I hope people didn't expect this season to be easy and and start calling for Wagner to go. Wag er has taken us from a struggling championship team to a struggling Premier league team. The odds are massively against any club promoted, especially via The playoffs.
For all the money we have spent having got here, we have still spent less than the Massive and Derby have done trying to reach where we are. We have basically bought ourselves a top end Championship side who are currently trying to keep us in the Premier league.
Look over the border to Burnley, they had a worst first year than us (as did Middlesborough last year), but they kept faith with Dyche and went straight back up and stayed up. I would love to stay up, I really would. But to me, the biggest benefit about last season is that should we go down, we now have the players, support and financial clout to be a genuine top end championship team rather than a struggling one.
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Post by Yorkie on Jan 20, 2018 21:46:02 GMT 1
Wondered when this would start. I said on the way home from Wembley that I hope people didn't expect this season to be easy and and start calling for Wagner to go. Wag er has taken us from a struggling championship team to a struggling Premier league team. The odds are massively against any club promoted, especially via The playoffs. For all the money we have spent having got here, we have still spent less than the Massive and Derby have done trying to reach where we are. We have basically bought ourselves a top end Championship side who are currently trying to keep us in the Premier league. Look over the border to Burnley, they had a worst first year than us (as did Middlesborough last year), but they kept faith with Dyche and went straight back up and stayed up. I would love to stay up, I really would. But to me, the biggest benefit about last season is that should we go down, we now have the players, support and financial clout to be a genuine top end championship team rather than a struggling one. Totally agree with all you say but I doubt Wagner will be here next season whatever happens. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2018 23:20:11 GMT 1
I look forward to the rendition of “ He’s better than Klopp “ next Tuesday 😄
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Post by Hammy (still in Golcar) on Jan 20, 2018 23:23:20 GMT 1
that had us playing this badly and sliding down the league would have had the fans calling for him to get the sack by now, just cos he got us promoted to a higher division surely isnt enough to garantee him job security, Grayson got sacked after getting us promotion so surely wagner should be questioned now too? or is it a case of he got us to the premier league therefore his job is safe whatever? Ta ra dick head. |
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Post by Leporid on Jan 20, 2018 23:31:55 GMT 1
Wondered when this would start. I said on the way home from Wembley that I hope people didn't expect this season to be easy and and start calling for Wagner to go. Wag er has taken us from a struggling championship team to a struggling Premier league team. The odds are massively against any club promoted, especially via The playoffs. For all the money we have spent having got here, we have still spent less than the Massive and Derby have done trying to reach where we are. We have basically bought ourselves a top end Championship side who are currently trying to keep us in the Premier league. Look over the border to Burnley, they had a worst first year than us (as did Middlesborough last year), but they kept faith with Dyche and went straight back up and stayed up. I would love to stay up, I really would. But to me, the biggest benefit about last season is that should we go down, we now have the players, support and financial clout to be a genuine top end championship team rather than a struggling one. One can expect the children to behave like children I suppose. A relegation scrap? What a surprise. |
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Post by Leporid on Jan 20, 2018 23:37:16 GMT 1
bet Burnley fans are glad they stuck with Dyche No, he was shite and clueless and Burnley should have got rid of him, according the opinions of people who haven't managed anything much in their lives. |
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Post by Tinpot on Jan 21, 2018 0:01:07 GMT 1
I started typing out an explanation of why Wagner is far better than Grayson, and how the two situations were completely different, when I stopped and realised that I was explaining a concept that should have been bleeding obvious. I might as well have explained why winning the lottery is better than being kicked in the bollocks.
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Post by BoothysGusset on Jan 21, 2018 1:09:12 GMT 1
If we go down I could not think of a better manager to get us back up. Are you not having the time of your life??
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Post by BottomLip on Jan 21, 2018 1:14:15 GMT 1
that had us playing this badly and sliding down the league would have had the fans calling for him to get the sack by now, just cos he got us promoted to a higher division surely isnt enough to garantee him job security, Grayson got sacked after getting us promotion so surely wagner should be questioned now too? or is it a case of he got us to the premier league therefore his job is safe whatever? I bet Giants sack a coach before Town do.... Id stick to Giants chap, this loyalty and togetherness won't sit right with the Ken Davy Crew will it? |
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Post by Headless Chicken on Jan 21, 2018 1:19:27 GMT 1
Wondered when this would start. I said on the way home from Wembley that I hope people didn't expect this season to be easy and and start calling for Wagner to go. Wag er has taken us from a struggling championship team to a struggling Premier league team. The odds are massively against any club promoted, especially via The playoffs. For all the money we have spent having got here, we have still spent less than the Massive and Derby have done trying to reach where we are. We have basically bought ourselves a top end Championship side who are currently trying to keep us in the Premier league. Look over the border to Burnley, they had a worst first year than us (as did Middlesborough last year), but they kept faith with Dyche and went straight back up and stayed up. I would love to stay up, I really would. But to me, the biggest benefit about last season is that should we go down, we now have the players, support and financial clout to be a genuine top end championship team rather than a struggling one. Heard this sort of shit coming out of the stadium. "If that's how he wants to play, he can leave". I only kept my gob shut because the chap looked like a nice chap, but just a bit of a dithering old fool.....unlike the poisonous Jeremy Kyle missing teeth brigade in the stands getting on numerous player's backs. |
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Post by hdee on Jan 21, 2018 8:46:13 GMT 1
If we go down I could not think of a better manager to get us back up. Are you not having the time of your life?? Not really, we are woeful to watch, dont look like scoring and look like where gonna get hammered every week im not one of these that wanks myself to death cos were in the premier league i still want to see town win and be competitive. Should we all just for 1 season pretend were happy to watch a shit team cos were playing top clubs ? |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2018 8:50:09 GMT 1
If we go down I could not think of a better manager to get us back up. Are you not having the time of your life?? Not really, we are woeful to watch, dont look like scoring and look like where gonna get hammered every week im not one of these that wanks myself to death cos were in the premier league i still want to see town win and be competitive. Should we all just for 1 season pretend were happy to watch a shit team cos were playing top clubs ? No but you weren’t at watford were you? Too short a memory to have any credibility. |
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Post by griffa on Jan 21, 2018 9:20:31 GMT 1
If we go down I could not think of a better manager to get us back up. Are you not having the time of your life?? Not really, we are woeful to watch, dont look like scoring and look like where gonna get hammered every week im not one of these that wanks myself to death cos were in the premier league i still want to see town win and be competitive. Should we all just for 1 season pretend were happy to watch a shit team cos were playing top clubs ? David Wagner has been wonderful for Town, unfortunately he looks out of his depth at the moment. We've too many players who are outbox form, for example playing a back 4, with both full backs Tommy Smith & Scott Malone, underperforming! Midfield overrun during recent weeks, ball retention has poor, questionable tactics, poor passing, surely we ought to play an alternative formation 3-5-2 or 4-4-2, 4-2-3-1, isn't working IMO, we definitely need a Plan B, they say "fortune favours the brave." Why not play 2 strikers, at home, Hogg, Mooy, VLP & Moonie out of sorts yesterday. Super Collin Quaker, just not a Premier League player - squeaky bum time - UTT. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2018 12:32:27 GMT 1
It's certainly not unreasonable to question Wagner's position.......better managers than him have got the chop at this level. This is now his team....his signings....his playing philosophy....his training....his tactics....his team selection.....his substitutions. He's accountable.
A manager can't reasonably be held to account for the individual mistakes a player might make on the pitch.....or a player's loss of form. But he still must address the issue of that player's suitability to be selected.
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Post by malcolmbrown on Jan 21, 2018 12:38:17 GMT 1
that had us playing this badly and sliding down the league would have had the fans calling for him to get the sack by now, just cos he got us promoted to a higher division surely isnt enough to garantee him job security, Grayson got sacked after getting us promotion so surely wagner should be questioned now too? or is it a case of he got us to the premier league therefore his job is safe whatever? We're in a higher position than the other promoted teams. Should Be noted and Houghton be sacked as well. Unbelievable post. Is it April 1st already? |
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Post by malcolmbrown on Jan 21, 2018 12:39:01 GMT 1
that had us playing this badly and sliding down the league would have had the fans calling for him to get the sack by now, just cos he got us promoted to a higher division surely isnt enough to garantee him job security, Grayson got sacked after getting us promotion so surely wagner should be questioned now too? or is it a case of he got us to the premier league therefore his job is safe whatever? We're in a higher position than the other promoted teams. Should Be noted and Houghton be sacked as well. Unbelievable post. Is it April 1st already? Meant Benitez, chuffin autotext correction. |
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Jan 21, 2018 12:42:08 GMT 1
bet Burnley fans are glad they stuck with Dyche Yeah I bet they are but at one point they did want rid of him. I remember going to Burnley on a Tuesday night under Robins and we won 1-0 with a Vaughan goal and they finished that season about 15th and they all wanted him gone that night. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2018 12:43:05 GMT 1
We need a leader on the pitch. We simply don’t have one there. Mooy is quiet as a mouse, but he was throwing his hands in the air blaming others at times yesterday.
The heads are down and it’s now the stage of the season that the players either stand up and be counted or they go missing in action. Unfortunately, I am only seeing the latter.
It’s down to Wagner to do something about that.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2018 12:55:06 GMT 1
Wagner is so stubborn he will not change anything, I've lost all belief that he can. He will continue with the same dull, boring, ineffective shit football until we go down.
I'm starting to think that the players think they are better than they are & do not agree with or want to play this negatively awful & bizarre football Wagner is intent on persisting with.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2018 13:03:48 GMT 1
bet Burnley fans are glad they stuck with Dyche No, he was shite and clueless and Burnley should have got rid of him, according the opinions of people who haven't managed anything much in their lives. yes that's about ninety percent on here. |
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