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Post by galpharm2400 on Mar 11, 2018 12:48:35 GMT 1
Short of putting the ball in the back of the opposition’s net, not sure what more we could have done yesterday. Just one of those days. perhaps make their keeper have a very good day is the next move up from 'short of putting the ball in the net' maybe a few melees in their box could also be seen as getting closer to 'putting the ball in their net'..?? ball goes in, ball comes out.. ball gets moved from side to side, ball goes in, ball comes out.. just one of those days is an excuse not a arguable reason..? the sad thing for us is that they adopted the defending deep tactic the second they lost the man and had no intention of doing anything else, they guessed, rightly, there was less to fear by doing nothing of an attacking nature. It was a weighed and measured decision by carlos.. He got more animated the second we shoved the big man on and starting hitting it longer.. truth is we wasted a lot of a game in which we were given a big advantage in..
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Post by worthington on Mar 11, 2018 12:48:57 GMT 1
Cuddly toy! Ince is a young player with scope to improve. Look at lots of players in a similar position. They may progress, they may not. But you cannot say that he’s Championship. Pritchard was discarded by Spurs because he was ‘Championship’. Cliche bingo. I like Ince... but are you saying based on this seasons displays that playing at the level he has so far he will be a first team mainstay in the premier league ? Can't see it myself. And he's already had two ( I think ) spells in the premier league which have ended with him joining championship clubs. As for " young player with scope to improve " have you seen how old he is ? He has torn up the championship and struggled in the premier league. It's a massive step up it happens. Pritchard was " discarded " by Spurs cos he wasnt good enough for Spurs. And he still isn't Ince made 3 mistakes in the first 5 mins yesterday: a timid swing of his leg when there was no chance of getting proper shot on target; then allowing an admittedly not very good ball to go out of play because he wasn't anticipating.
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Mar 11, 2018 13:01:51 GMT 1
I’m saying I think 11 v 11 I think we would have carved out better opportunities. Not more but better . But it’s all conjecture we move on “ I think “ hardly constitutes a compelling, well reasoned argument. How about talking us through how you reached that conclusion. I already have .. in about three posts . With 11 men Swansea would have had more ambition and not merely banked their troops in “attack v defence “ style . Maybe you can compose a compelling well reasoned argument to the contrary ?
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Post by otterman on Mar 11, 2018 13:14:19 GMT 1
“ I think “ hardly constitutes a compelling, well reasoned argument. How about talking us through how you reached that conclusion. I already have .. in about three posts . With 11 men Swansea would have had more ambition and not merely banked their troops in “attack v defence “ style . Maybe you can compose a compelling well reasoned argument to the contrary ? Good afternoon, your assertion was based on numbers, which is meaningless. What you are actually trying to argue is all about tactics, not 10 v 11. Swansea could choose any tactic for any number of players. They could have parked the bus with 11 men, couldn’t they? They played extremely well with the tactics the manager chose away from home with 10 men, in a relegation fight, which was absolutely correct. One of the key issues with posts on here is that people ignore the opposition. Just because Swansea have a man sent off in the first 20 minutes does not give Huddersfield the right to win. Swansea scored 4 last week and their form under the new manager has been phenomenal. That was halted yesterday by the team you support. No?
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Mar 11, 2018 13:18:26 GMT 1
I already have .. in about three posts . With 11 men Swansea would have had more ambition and not merely banked their troops in “attack v defence “ style . Maybe you can compose a compelling well reasoned argument to the contrary ? Good afternoon, your assertion was based on numbers, which is meaningless. What you are actually trying to argue is all about tactics, not 10 v 11. Swansea could choose any tactic for any number of players. They could have parked the bus with 11 men, couldn’t they? They played extremely well with the tactics the manager chose away from home with 10 men, in a relegation fight, which was absolutely correct. One of the key issues with posts on here is that people ignore the opposition. Just because Swansea have a man sent off in the first 20 minutes does not give Huddersfield the right to win. Swansea scored 4 last week and their form under the new manager has been phenomenal. That was halted yesterday by the team you support. No? Not sure what your argument is .. it makes no sense . The numbers dictate the tactics surely ? And Whats All this about “the team you support “ ? I’m not having a go at Town .. I’m saying 10 men in hard to play against because of the defensive mindset . I have a feeling you aren’t quite as clever as you’d like to think you are but I guess you at least gave more to the debate than “knobhead”
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Post by otterman on Mar 11, 2018 13:22:35 GMT 1
Good afternoon, your assertion was based on numbers, which is meaningless. What you are actually trying to argue is all about tactics, not 10 v 11. Swansea could choose any tactic for any number of players. They could have parked the bus with 11 men, couldn’t they? They played extremely well with the tactics the manager chose away from home with 10 men, in a relegation fight, which was absolutely correct. One of the key issues with posts on here is that people ignore the opposition. Just because Swansea have a man sent off in the first 20 minutes does not give Huddersfield the right to win. Swansea scored 4 last week and their form under the new manager has been phenomenal. That was halted yesterday by the team you support. No? Not sure what your argument is .. it makes no sense . The numbers dictate the tactics surely ? And Whats All this about “the team you support “ ? I’m not having a go at Town .. I’m saying 10 men in hard to play against because of the defensive mindset . I have a feeling you aren’t quite as clever as you’d like to think you are but I guess you at least gave more to the debate than “knobhead” Please try to understand, numbers do not dictate tactics.
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Mar 11, 2018 13:31:29 GMT 1
Not sure what your argument is .. it makes no sense . The numbers dictate the tactics surely ? And Whats All this about “the team you support “ ? I’m not having a go at Town .. I’m saying 10 men in hard to play against because of the defensive mindset . I have a feeling you aren’t quite as clever as you’d like to think you are but I guess you at least gave more to the debate than “knobhead” Please try to understand, numbers do not dictate tactics. Really ? So if Swansea had had eleven throughout they would have showed the same ambition ? Do me a favour . I’ve now had a look at a few of your posts as you weren’t on my radar .. lots of aggressive stuff about emotional bedwetting . I’m actually a really positive Town fan who is cock a hoop with how it’s gone . I don’t expect to just turn up and win . And I give Swansea massive credit for yesterday . That ok for you ? But if you think there isn’t a correlation between Swansea’s tactics and the number of players on the pitch there is no hope for you .. as I said you aren’t quite as clever as you think you are
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Post by goodshot (FGS) on Mar 11, 2018 13:44:12 GMT 1
Short of putting the ball in the back of the opposition’s net, not sure what more we could have done yesterday. Just one of those days. perhaps make their keeper have a very good day is the next move up from 'short of putting the ball in the net' maybe a few melees in their box could also be seen as getting closer to 'putting the ball in their net'..?? ball goes in, ball comes out.. ball gets moved from side to side, ball goes in, ball comes out.. just one of those days is an excuse not a arguable reason..? the sad thing for us is that they adopted the defending deep tactic the second they lost the man and had no intention of doing anything else, they guessed, rightly, there was less to fear by doing nothing of an attacking nature. It was a weighed and measured decision by carlos.. He got more animated the second we shoved the big man on and starting hitting it longer.. truth is we wasted a lot of a game in which we were given a big advantage in.. Carlos's comments after the game were instructive. He said a point with 11 on the field would have been a great point, with 10 men it was outstanding - or words to that effect. Not sure what should have been the correct time to bring on the second striker. Some say as soon as the lad got sent off, my instinct was after about 60 minutes, DW gave him 10-15 minutes.
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Post by goodshot (FGS) on Mar 11, 2018 13:45:22 GMT 1
Not sure what your argument is .. it makes no sense . The numbers dictate the tactics surely ? And Whats All this about “the team you support “ ? I’m not having a go at Town .. I’m saying 10 men in hard to play against because of the defensive mindset . I have a feeling you aren’t quite as clever as you’d like to think you are but I guess you at least gave more to the debate than “knobhead” Please try to understand, numbers do not dictate tactics. They clearly dictated Swansea's tactics?
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Mar 11, 2018 14:00:43 GMT 1
Please try to understand, numbers do not dictate tactics. Really ? So if Swansea had had eleven throughout they would have showed the same ambition ? Do me a favour . I’ve now had a look at a few of your posts as you weren’t on my radar .. lots of aggressive stuff about emotional bedwetting . I’m actually a really positive Town fan who is cock a hoop with how it’s gone . I don’t expect to just turn up and win . And I give Swansea massive credit for yesterday . That ok for you ? But if you think there isn’t a correlation between Swansea’s tactics and the number of players on the pitch there is no hope for you .. as I said you aren’t quite as clever as you think you are Come on chippy. You know everything !
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Post by otterman on Mar 11, 2018 14:05:14 GMT 1
Please try to understand, numbers do not dictate tactics. Really ? So if Swansea had had eleven throughout they would have showed the same ambition ? Do me a favour . I’ve now had a look at a few of your posts as you weren’t on my radar .. lots of aggressive stuff about emotional bedwetting . I’m actually a really positive Town fan who is cock a hoop with how it’s gone . I don’t expect to just turn up and win . And I give Swansea massive credit for yesterday . That ok for you ? But if you think there isn’t a correlation between Swansea’s tactics and the number of players on the pitch there is no hope for you .. as I said you aren’t quite as clever as you think you are Now you are backtracking? if going down to 10 men dictates negative tactics, how do you explain 10 men ever going on to win a match, which happens often?
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Mar 11, 2018 14:10:12 GMT 1
Really ? So if Swansea had had eleven throughout they would have showed the same ambition ? Do me a favour . I’ve now had a look at a few of your posts as you weren’t on my radar .. lots of aggressive stuff about emotional bedwetting . I’m actually a really positive Town fan who is cock a hoop with how it’s gone . I don’t expect to just turn up and win . And I give Swansea massive credit for yesterday . That ok for you ? But if you think there isn’t a correlation between Swansea’s tactics and the number of players on the pitch there is no hope for you .. as I said you aren’t quite as clever as you think you are Now you are backtracking? if going down to 10 men dictates negative tactics, how do you explain 10 men ever going on to win a match, which happens often? How am I backtracking ? Just out of interest have you ever been called condescending before ?
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Post by otterman on Mar 11, 2018 14:16:23 GMT 1
Now you are backtracking? if going down to 10 men dictates negative tactics, how do you explain 10 men ever going on to win a match, which happens often? How am I backtracking ? Just out of interest have you ever been called condescen before ? I assume you meant condescending? No, never. it’s such a shame we had to face 10 men and not 11 yesterday. We would have carved 11 men apart so much more successfully, as they would not have bothered to defend. God help us if they’d gone down to 9... off to the pub. Give you time to think about how wrong you are.
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Post by Porrohman on Mar 11, 2018 14:23:05 GMT 1
Right ok ... give me a reason not to report you Cos he's got you down to a tee, not necessarily in this thread, in general 😉😁
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Mar 11, 2018 14:32:09 GMT 1
Right ok ... give me a reason not to report you Cos he's got you down to a tee, not necessarily in this thread, in general 😉😁 Fair enough .. but like otterman I demand an essay demonstrating his rationale ;-)
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Post by Porrohman on Mar 11, 2018 14:34:47 GMT 1
Cos he's got you down to a tee, not necessarily in this thread, in general 😉😁 Fair enough .. but like otterman I demand an essay demonstrating his rationale ;-) Tbh I posted that before I read the rest of the thread and saw him going on and on and on and on, now I feel guilty 😕
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Mar 11, 2018 14:37:49 GMT 1
Fair enough .. but like otterman I demand an essay demonstrating his rationale ;-) Tbh I posted that before I read the rest of the thread and saw him going on and on and on and on, now I feel guilty 😕 I’m sure some would interpret it as “there goes Ted arguing again “
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Post by galpharm2400 on Mar 11, 2018 14:42:02 GMT 1
perhaps make their keeper have a very good day is the next move up from 'short of putting the ball in the net' maybe a few melees in their box could also be seen as getting closer to 'putting the ball in their net'..?? ball goes in, ball comes out.. ball gets moved from side to side, ball goes in, ball comes out.. just one of those days is an excuse not a arguable reason..? the sad thing for us is that they adopted the defending deep tactic the second they lost the man and had no intention of doing anything else, they guessed, rightly, there was less to fear by doing nothing of an attacking nature. It was a weighed and measured decision by carlos.. He got more animated the second we shoved the big man on and starting hitting it longer.. truth is we wasted a lot of a game in which we were given a big advantage in.. Carlos's comments after the game were instructive. He said a point with 11 on the field would have been a great point, with 10 men it was outstanding - or words to that effect. Not sure what should have been the correct time to bring on the second striker. Some say as soon as the lad got sent off, my instinct was after about 60 minutes, DW gave him 10-15 minutes. half time for the big lad.. change williams for mooy or pritchard after 10 minutes or so of the second half and shove him right up running around the two strikers.. its not playing 10 men its playing the tactics they chose to play the second the lad was sent off.. if we want 10 men to come out and play you have to load up the front to make it in their interests to come out a bit.. we played mostly in front of them, coming out wasnt required.. do I think we could do it against swansea if the situation was reversed? probably but carlos would have shoved tammy on early and one of the big centre halves would have been placed outside our box to make a run in every single time they looked like being able to deliver something in there.. win the game, dont let the fear of changing or the fear of conceding get in the way..a goal is a goal.. we are a bit 'one more pass' to often..
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Post by goodshot (FGS) on Mar 11, 2018 16:05:05 GMT 1
Carlos's comments after the game were instructive. He said a point with 11 on the field would have been a great point, with 10 men it was outstanding - or words to that effect. Not sure what should have been the correct time to bring on the second striker. Some say as soon as the lad got sent off, my instinct was after about 60 minutes, DW gave him 10-15 minutes. half time for the big lad.. change williams for mooy or pritchard after 10 minutes or so of the second half and shove him right up running around the two strikers.. its not playing 10 men its playing the tactics they chose to play the second the lad was sent off.. if we want 10 men to come out and play you have to load up the front to make it in their interests to come out a bit.. we played mostly in front of them, coming out wasnt required.. do I think we could do it against swansea if the situation was reversed? probably but carlos would have shoved tammy on early and one of the big centre halves would have been placed outside our box to make a run in every single time they looked like being able to deliver something in there.. win the game, dont let the fear of changing or the fear of conceding get in the way..a goal is a goal.. we are a bit 'one more pass' to often.. I don't think DW sees games like that tbh. He sees the system he chose dominating the game and creating opportunities so why change it. I would have kept Pritchard on and pushed him up as far as possible and buzzing round the one or two strikers. He is a potent finisher if given the chances, and of course he is a very good chance creator. Don't think we got the best out of him yesterday given the circumstances.
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Post by galpharm2400 on Mar 11, 2018 16:15:32 GMT 1
half time for the big lad.. change williams for mooy or pritchard after 10 minutes or so of the second half and shove him right up running around the two strikers.. its not playing 10 men its playing the tactics they chose to play the second the lad was sent off.. if we want 10 men to come out and play you have to load up the front to make it in their interests to come out a bit.. we played mostly in front of them, coming out wasnt required.. do I think we could do it against swansea if the situation was reversed? probably but carlos would have shoved tammy on early and one of the big centre halves would have been placed outside our box to make a run in every single time they looked like being able to deliver something in there.. win the game, dont let the fear of changing or the fear of conceding get in the way..a goal is a goal.. we are a bit 'one more pass' to often.. I don't think DW sees games like that tbh. He sees the system he chose dominating the game and creating opportunities so why change it. I would have kept Pritchard on and pushed him up as far as possible and buzzing round the one or two strikers. He is a potent finisher if given the chances, and of course he is a very good chance creator. Don't think we got the best out of him yesterday given the circumstances. no room to get in between the defensive lines, they didnt have lines just groups.. we could have brought 3 extra strikers on yesterday and still dominated the game, probably more 'dominance' in their box would have helped a bit? wagner didnt change it, it was a mistake then and its a mistake now.. he makes errors like anyone else but he got 'given' 80 minutes to 'dictate the game' and he allowed swansea to do that..
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2018 16:41:34 GMT 1
I don't think DW sees games like that tbh. He sees the system he chose dominating the game and creating opportunities so why change it. I would have kept Pritchard on and pushed him up as far as possible and buzzing round the one or two strikers. He is a potent finisher if given the chances, and of course he is a very good chance creator. Don't think we got the best out of him yesterday given the circumstances. no room to get in between the defensive lines, they didnt have lines just groups.. we could have brought 3 extra strikers on yesterday and still dominated the game, probably more 'dominance' in their box would have helped a bit? wagner didnt change it, it was a mistake then and its a mistake now.. he makes errors like anyone else but he got 'given' 80 minutes to 'dictate the game' and he allowed swansea to do that.. I'm amazed how many on here don't think it was the wrong call to leave it until 75 mins to bring Depoitre on I don't think there would be many other sides in world football who would only have one striker on the pitch when at home against ten men. Especially if their only tactic revolved around putting crosses in the box He's a great manager but that was a massive error yesterday and cost us 2 points
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Post by goodshot (FGS) on Mar 11, 2018 16:41:37 GMT 1
I don't think DW sees games like that tbh. He sees the system he chose dominating the game and creating opportunities so why change it. I would have kept Pritchard on and pushed him up as far as possible and buzzing round the one or two strikers. He is a potent finisher if given the chances, and of course he is a very good chance creator. Don't think we got the best out of him yesterday given the circumstances. no room to get in between the defensive lines, they didnt have lines just groups.. we could have brought 3 extra strikers on yesterday and still dominated the game, probably more 'dominance' in their box would have helped a bit? wagner didnt change it, it was a mistake then and its a mistake now.. he makes errors like anyone else but he got 'given' 80 minutes to 'dictate the game' and he allowed swansea to do that.. As I said - he thinks differently from you! What I will say is it would have been a 4 pointer yesterday if we had taken full advantage and battered them 5-0. Our goal difference would then have been better than most of those around us Swansea, West Ham, Stoke, West Brom and drawn us level with Southampton and Palace. Good to see their gd's coming back towards ours.
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Post by goodshot (FGS) on Mar 11, 2018 16:45:34 GMT 1
no room to get in between the defensive lines, they didnt have lines just groups.. we could have brought 3 extra strikers on yesterday and still dominated the game, probably more 'dominance' in their box would have helped a bit? wagner didnt change it, it was a mistake then and its a mistake now.. he makes errors like anyone else but he got 'given' 80 minutes to 'dictate the game' and he allowed swansea to do that.. I'm amazed how many on here don't think it was the wrong call to leave it until 75 mins to bring Depoitre on I don't think there would be many other sides in world football who would only have one striker on the pitch when at home against ten men. Especially if their only tactic revolved around putting crosses in the box He's a great manager but that was a massive error yesterday and cost us 2 points Would it still have been a great error if Mounié's volley and Ince's header had gone in?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2018 16:50:03 GMT 1
I'm amazed how many on here don't think it was the wrong call to leave it until 75 mins to bring Depoitre on I don't think there would be many other sides in world football who would only have one striker on the pitch when at home against ten men. Especially if their only tactic revolved around putting crosses in the box He's a great manager but that was a massive error yesterday and cost us 2 points Would it still have been a great error if Mounié's volley and Ince's header had gone in? Depoitre was on the pitch when Ince had that header. Why do you think Ince got to that header? Might have been somrthing do with two strikers occupying 3 or 4 defenders allowing Ince a bit of extra space Depoitre has been one of our best players this season and we gave him 15 minutes against ten men. He must have been sat there scratching his head watching us put 50 crosses in to the box toward players like Ince, Pritchard, VLP and Mooy who probably haven't got 5 goals between them with their heads in their whole careers
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Post by goodshot (FGS) on Mar 11, 2018 17:03:17 GMT 1
Would it still have been a great error if Mounié's volley and Ince's header had gone in? Depoitre was on the pitch when Ince had that header. Why do you think Ince got to that header? Might have been somrthing do with two strikers occupying 3 or 4 defenders allowing Ince a bit of extra space Depoitre has been one of our best players this season and we gave him 15 minutes against ten men. He must have been sat there scratching his head watching us put 50 crosses in to the box toward players like Ince, Pritchard, VLP and Mooy who probably haven't got 5 goals between them with their heads in their whole careers As I said earlier - I'd have brought him on around 60. Like Galph I'd have had a good spell of bombing it in to the box from deeper in true gerrit forrard style and looking for knock downs. Think we will have to live with DW never doing that until it's true Hail Mary time in the last 5-10 minutes. Don't think LDP's presence had much to do with Ince's header. It was a surprisingly good quality header from Ince - shame it didn't go in. We certainly deserved to win. What I'd also say is that it's a bit of a shame we didn't have another striker with a bit of contrast to the two big lads - a bit Nahki like. Even bigger shame that we don't have any young strikers trying to bust through from the reserves - that system looks as though it's entirely bust.
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Post by explorer on Mar 11, 2018 17:07:05 GMT 1
I'm talking about how the stats are reported - it's factual. Not sure what you're on about, just more of your rambling nonsense I guess. Apart from the four shots on target we had two that hit the woodwork, Schindler and Mounie with headers that JUST cleared the bar, Flo's second hand curving shot and Hogg's piledriver that were both a whisker away, Malone just failing to connect with that cross with a gaping goal, the Malone cross that beat everybody in the box and was just begging for a tap-in...I could go on, but if you just want to see "Shots 30, on target 4" then you crack on, fella. Difficult to argue with a 'nearly did this' and 'almost got it right' argument.. because its not an argument its an excuse.. you make chances to score goals, if you dont score with all that possesion and all those attempts its a failure, if it isnt to you and you dont set your standards higher then fair enough, we are now arguing about what we find acceptable from well paid professional sportsmen.. given swansea didnt attempt to get up the pitch from the 11th minute onwards the possession stats are pretty much null and void and the attempts in relation to the number on target are shitty. Just being honest about my team that missed out on a great opportunity, I dont buy into 'its harder to play 10 than 11', its footballspeak used after a game where a team fail to take advantage, thats all.. It’s nothing to do with my “setting my standards” low, more that I am not prepared to come on here criticise my team for failing to score when they tried their bollocks off for ninety minutes and did everything but score. I agree that it wouldn’t be harder to play against 10 men - as long as those 10 men stuck to their original game plan (with the exception of their missing man of course) and for example their 4-4-2 becomes 4-4-1 However.....if they decide to stick ten men behind the ball with no attacking intent at all then they will be a damn sight harder to play against - as would be a team parking the bus with 11 men and no attacking intent. It’s not the number of players - 10 or 11 - it’s what you do with them. I’m surprised you can’t see that. If you were right - how did we manage to hold out against West Brom for all that time with ten men? How did we hold out for 86 minutes with 11 men behind the ball against Man City? You might like to call it “football speak” but it happens. Swansea managed to hold out against us and we didn’t against City because they got the luck with a spawny rebound goal whereas we hit the bar and the post. Did City resort to throwing an extra big man on after 60 minutes? No, they carried on playing football and they got lucky. We carried on playing our football and got unlucky. You may have think we were shit yesterday but we had twice as many shots on target as Liverpool or Manchester United (or the same number as Liverpool and Manchester United combined if you like) and they were playing against a normal defence, not a ten-man defensive block. And yes, Liverpool scored, but it was another very lucky deflected shot. It seems it might not just be as easy as “throwing the big man on” or “drawing them out” especially when they don’t want to come out, after all.
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Post by explorer on Mar 11, 2018 17:54:53 GMT 1
Would it still have been a great error if Mounié's volley and Ince's header had gone in? Depoitre was on the pitch when Ince had that header. Why do you think Ince got to that header? Might have been somrthing do with two strikers occupying 3 or 4 defenders allowing Ince a bit of extra spaceDepoitre has been one of our best players this season and we gave him 15 minutes against ten men. He must have been sat there scratching his head watching us put 50 crosses in to the box toward players like Ince, Pritchard, VLP and Mooy who probably haven't got 5 goals between them with their heads in their whole careers You might like to watch the highlights.......when that cross came in there were five defenders in the box and only Depoitre and Ince from Town. Mounie was well back outside the box.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2018 18:01:06 GMT 1
Depoitre was on the pitch when Ince had that header. Why do you think Ince got to that header? Might have been somrthing do with two strikers occupying 3 or 4 defenders allowing Ince a bit of extra spaceDepoitre has been one of our best players this season and we gave him 15 minutes against ten men. He must have been sat there scratching his head watching us put 50 crosses in to the box toward players like Ince, Pritchard, VLP and Mooy who probably haven't got 5 goals between them with their heads in their whole careers You might like to watch the highlights.......when that cross came in there were five defenders in the box and only Depoitre and Ince from Town. Mounie was well back outside the box. Some of those defenders will have been keep an eye on Mounie making a late run in to the box which he was doing Ask those Swansea defenders whether they would prefer to play that game with just Mounie up front or against both of them and we all know the answer. It makes no sense to not have them on the pitch, they're both goalscorers and something we massively lack elsewhere in the team
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Post by Baba O'Riley on Mar 11, 2018 18:03:20 GMT 1
I don't think DW sees games like that tbh. He sees the system he chose dominating the game and creating opportunities so why change it. I would have kept Pritchard on and pushed him up as far as possible and buzzing round the one or two strikers. He is a potent finisher if given the chances, and of course he is a very good chance creator. Don't think we got the best out of him yesterday given the circumstances. no room to get in between the defensive lines, they didnt have lines just groups.. we could have brought 3 extra strikers on yesterday and still dominated the game, probably more 'dominance' in their box would have helped a bit? wagner didnt change it, it was a mistake then and its a mistake now.. he makes errors like anyone else but he got 'given' 80 minutes to 'dictate the game' and he allowed swansea to do that.. 80% possession would indicate that we were doing the dictating. I think it was just one of those games when the ball was never going into the back of the net. UTT
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Post by explorer on Mar 11, 2018 18:40:42 GMT 1
You might like to watch the highlights.......when that cross came in there were five defenders in the box and only Depoitre and Ince from Town. Mounie was well back outside the box. Some of those defenders will have been keep an eye on Mounie making a late run in to the box which he was doing Ask those Swansea defenders whether they would prefer to play that game with just Mounie up front or against both of them and we all know the answer. It makes no sense to not have them on the pitch, they're both goalscorers and something we massively lack elsewhere in the team Like I said, watch the highlights, don't just make it up to suit your opinions! Mounie nowhere to be seen as the cross comes in.
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