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Post by EastCoastTerrier on Apr 15, 2018 16:58:14 GMT 1
Players who are possibly out of contract that may be worth looking at for back up/experience (if wages were reasonable) James Mcarthur James Morrison Robert Hutch Chris Brunt Wayne Hennessey Huth I assume you mean? He'll be 34 by the time the season starts and hasn't played at all for Leicester this season. Hennessey, are you serious? Morrison is going to be 32 next month. Huth and Morrison wouldn't even get on the bench and Hennessey's save % isn't anything to write home about. Huth - an experience back up (better than hefele or stankovic) Hennessey - back up gk (needed when Green leaves) Save %? Anyone can find a stat to support a claim Morrison - 32... not the end of a career age anymore Like I said just soe out of contract players who may be worth thinking about
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Post by DATM Travel Agent on Apr 15, 2018 17:09:48 GMT 1
Huth I assume you mean? He'll be 34 by the time the season starts and hasn't played at all for Leicester this season. Hennessey, are you serious? Morrison is going to be 32 next month. Huth and Morrison wouldn't even get on the bench and Hennessey's save % isn't anything to write home about. Huth - an experience back up (better than hefele or stankovic) Hennessey - back up gk (needed when Green leaves) Save %? Anyone can find a stat to support a claim Morrison - 32... not the end of a career age anymore Like I said just soe out of contract players who may be worth thinking about Stankovic has played 400 minutes at Championship level and has been injured for the last year so to state unequivocally that you'd rather have a 34-year old Huth over a 22-year old Stankovic is premature. Hennessey, he's not going to come here to be #2, he's the Palace and Wales #1. And he's shit. Can you honestly see Morrison getting in ahead of the central midfielders we've already got? I certainly can't and we could certainly do better than him if we did being in another one.
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Post by capitalterrier on Apr 15, 2018 17:14:19 GMT 1
Steven Davis. Centre mid for Southampton. Very tidy player. Think he's been injured for a couple of months.
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Post by EastCoastTerrier on Apr 15, 2018 17:14:23 GMT 1
Huth - an experience back up (better than hefele or stankovic) Hennessey - back up gk (needed when Green leaves) Save %? Anyone can find a stat to support a claim Morrison - 32... not the end of a career age anymore Like I said just soe out of contract players who may be worth thinking about Stankovic has played 400 minutes at Championship level and has been injured for the last year so to state unequivocally that you'd rather have a 34-year old Huth over a 22-year old Stankovic is premature. Hennessey, he's not going to come here to be #2, he's the Palace and Wales #1. And he's shit. Can you honestly see Morrison getting in ahead of the central midfielders we've already got? I certainly can't and we could certainly do better than him if we did being in another one. Take a breath. Im not saying these are number 1 signings who are going to be the future of the team or neccesserily starters. I would much prefer us to sign talented players who will make an immediate impact and will be good long term. These are just players who are likely to be looking for a prem club and could help the squad next year. Similar to someone like Whitehead has done in the past.
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Post by DATM Travel Agent on Apr 15, 2018 17:21:21 GMT 1
Stankovic has played 400 minutes at Championship level and has been injured for the last year so to state unequivocally that you'd rather have a 34-year old Huth over a 22-year old Stankovic is premature. Hennessey, he's not going to come here to be #2, he's the Palace and Wales #1. And he's shit. Can you honestly see Morrison getting in ahead of the central midfielders we've already got? I certainly can't and we could certainly do better than him if we did being in another one. Take a breath. Im not saying these are number 1 signings who are going to be the future of the team or neccesserily starters. I would much prefer us to sign talented players who will make an immediate impact and will be good long term. These are just players who are likely to be looking for a prem club and could help the squad next year. Similar to someone like Whitehead has done in the past. Huth was on 40 grand a week when he joined Leicester 3 years ago so he'll probably have gone up to 50k after they won the title. We're not going to be signing a 34-year old back up on those kind of wages. As I said, Hennessey doesn't need to look for a Prem club, he's got one and is their and his country's #1.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2018 17:28:06 GMT 1
Collin Quaner, Tommy Smith, Sean Scannell, Scott Malone and Michael Hefele all need to be gone it we stay up. Dean Whitehead will probably retire (although I'd keep him on in a coaching capacity if possible), Robert Green will probably end up with a coaching role and Jack Payne will probably end up going to Blackburn or some other Championship side for decent money. He's a good player and has shown that this season but he isn't good enough for the Premier League, not yet anyway. Oh and I forgot Jordy Hiwula, Chris Powell's lasting legacy at this club, he'll be gone too.
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Post by allan 1958 (OAF-WROY)(SSLFF) on Apr 15, 2018 17:36:52 GMT 1
Collin Quaner, Tommy Smith, Sean Scannell, Scott Malone and Michael Hefele all need to be gone it we stay up. Dean Whitehead will probably retire (although I'd keep him on in a coaching capacity if possible), Robert Green will probably end up with a coaching role and Jack Payne will probably end up going to Blackburn or some other Championship side for decent money. He's a good player and has shown that this season but he isn't good enough for the Premier League, not yet anyway. Oh and I forgot Jordy Hiwula, Chris Powell's lasting legacy at this club, he'll be gone too. are we keeping anyone?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2018 17:40:40 GMT 1
Collin Quaner, Tommy Smith, Sean Scannell, Scott Malone and Michael Hefele all need to be gone it we stay up. Dean Whitehead will probably retire (although I'd keep him on in a coaching capacity if possible), Robert Green will probably end up with a coaching role and Jack Payne will probably end up going to Blackburn or some other Championship side for decent money. He's a good player and has shown that this season but he isn't good enough for the Premier League, not yet anyway. Oh and I forgot Jordy Hiwula, Chris Powell's lasting legacy at this club, he'll be gone too. are we keeping anyone? We desperately need to strengthen next year if we do stay up. Do you really think any of the players mentioned are PL quality? Or are you just being facetious?
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Post by teddytheterrier on Apr 15, 2018 17:44:47 GMT 1
Ward-Prowse lol. Fuck off.
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Post by allan 1958 (OAF-WROY)(SSLFF) on Apr 15, 2018 18:05:32 GMT 1
We desperately need to strengthen next year if we do stay up. Do you really think any of the players mentioned are PL quality? Or are you just being facetious? a bit light hearted really, but..... Its important to keep the squad spirit, it makes a difference. I like the Chinese quote "every great journey starts with the first step" ideally in the right direction. WE have taken many steps in the last few years and since david arrived they have been consistently in the right direction (generally). Those steps were based around our identity and togetherness. The number of people who stayed at the end, the squad celebration at the late winner, Schindler's duty to take the last penalty at wembley these are priceless. I would rather suffer relegation than lose these qualities and mentality. But we do need to strengthen. UTT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2018 18:12:39 GMT 1
We desperately need to strengthen next year if we do stay up. Do you really think any of the players mentioned are PL quality? Or are you just being facetious? a bit light hearted really, but..... Its important to keep the squad spirit, it makes a difference. I like the Chinese quote "every great journey starts with the first step" ideally in the right direction. WE have taken many steps in the last few years and since david arrived they have been consistently in the right direction (generally). Those steps were based around our identity and togetherness. The number of people who stayed at the end, the squad celebration at the late winner, Schindler's duty to take the last penalty at wembley these are priceless. I would rather suffer relegation than lose these qualities and mentality. But we do need to strengthen. UTT There's no room for sentiment in my opinion, Quaner wouldn't look out of place in the Fourth division (yes, he's that bad), Tommy Smith has been a huge disappointment and proved he cannot make the step up, unlike Hogg who has proved he can. Scannell, Whitehead and Hefele have been nowhere near the team this season, so whats the point of them taking a wage when they are not going to be used and are clearly not good enough for this division?
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Post by jonnyboy on Apr 15, 2018 18:16:53 GMT 1
Hef is a keeper for me, but then ive been public with my bromance with him from the start so you leave my fantasy straight boyfriend out of this uncouth discourse please.
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Post by allan 1958 (OAF-WROY)(SSLFF) on Apr 15, 2018 18:26:54 GMT 1
a bit light hearted really, but..... Its important to keep the squad spirit, it makes a difference. I like the Chinese quote "every great journey starts with the first step" ideally in the right direction. WE have taken many steps in the last few years and since david arrived they have been consistently in the right direction (generally). Those steps were based around our identity and togetherness. The number of people who stayed at the end, the squad celebration at the late winner, Schindler's duty to take the last penalty at wembley these are priceless. I would rather suffer relegation than lose these qualities and mentality. But we do need to strengthen. UTT There's no room for sentiment in my opinion, Quaner wouldn't look out of place in the Fourth division (yes, he's that bad), Tommy Smith has been a huge disappointment and proved he cannot make the step up, unlike Hogg who has proved he can. Scannell, Whitehead and Hefele have been nowhere near the team this season, so whats the point of them taking a wage when they are not going to be used and are clearly not good enough for this division? Not sentimentality but sticking to a plan within the cost structure we can sustain. Quaner - lacks quality- but has heart. i like him Scannell - been on his way out for a good while and will go. I like him Whitehead - his race is run, everyone knows including him. Hefele - hasnt really had a chance due injuries, i would keep him - i too love him. Smith - Has a lot still to prove, maybe a squad player. if we keep our seat at the big table we will strengthen some will go some will stay. I trust the management to get it right.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2018 18:33:57 GMT 1
There's no room for sentiment in my opinion, Quaner wouldn't look out of place in the Fourth division (yes, he's that bad), Tommy Smith has been a huge disappointment and proved he cannot make the step up, unlike Hogg who has proved he can. Scannell, Whitehead and Hefele have been nowhere near the team this season, so whats the point of them taking a wage when they are not going to be used and are clearly not good enough for this division? Not sentimentality but sticking to a plan within the cost structure we can sustain. Quaner - lacks quality- but has heart. i like him Scannell - been on his way out for a good while and will go. I like him Whitehead - his race is run, everyone knows including him. Hefele - hasnt really had a chance due injuries, i would keep him - i too love him. Smith - Has a lot still to prove, maybe a squad player. if we keep our seat at the big table we will strengthen some will go some will stay. I trust the management to get it right. Agreed on Scannell and Whitehead but not the others. Quaner is seriously shite, not good enough and shows how threadbare we are when he is starting matches in the top division. Hefele just isn't good enough, have him in the dressing room acting the goat by all means, but he should not be anywhere near that pitch come 3 o'clock. He's played 2 games this season and had 2 fuck ups. Smith - Mr. Negative, what happened to the attacking right full back we had last season? For that one incident alone at Newcastle, I'd never play him again.
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Post by k1htafc on Apr 15, 2018 18:37:37 GMT 1
A bit left-field (and very unlikely considering how much outlay we made on Pritchard...in addition to me being absolutely guilty of looking too much at Football Manager ) but Hany Mukhtar at Brondby (Danish Superliga - same place we got Zanka from and the club themselves are currently top of their league) could be an option for competition behind the striker as opposed to playing Ince there all the time. A German U21 international, 10 goals, 11 assists in the league this season. (No less outlandish than some of the suggestions on this thread!)
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2018 18:45:16 GMT 1
Not sentimentality but sticking to a plan within the cost structure we can sustain. Quaner - lacks quality- but has heart. i like him Scannell - been on his way out for a good while and will go. I like him Whitehead - his race is run, everyone knows including him. Hefele - hasnt really had a chance due injuries, i would keep him - i too love him. Smith - Has a lot still to prove, maybe a squad player. if we keep our seat at the big table we will strengthen some will go some will stay. I trust the management to get it right. Agreed on Scannell and Whitehead but not the others. Quaner is seriously shite, not good enough and shows how threadbare we are when he is starting matches in the top division. Hefele just isn't good enough, have him in the dressing room acting the goat by all means, but he should not be anywhere near that pitch come 3 o'clock. He's played 2 games this season and had 2 fuck ups. Smith - Mr. Negative, what happened to the attacking right full back we had last season? For that one incident alone at Newcastle, I'd never play him again. Have you ever heard the phrase match fit? 2 games with months in between without playing or training? The guys been injured all season for Christ sake, to say he's definitely not good enough for the prem is ridiculous. Nobody knows if he is or not, and like the others who have actually played this season he's earned the right to be given a chance.
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Post by capitalterrier on Apr 15, 2018 18:45:25 GMT 1
Not sentimentality but sticking to a plan within the cost structure we can sustain. Quaner - lacks quality- but has heart. i like him Scannell - been on his way out for a good while and will go. I like him Whitehead - his race is run, everyone knows including him. Hefele - hasnt really had a chance due injuries, i would keep him - i too love him. Smith - Has a lot still to prove, maybe a squad player. if we keep our seat at the big table we will strengthen some will go some will stay. I trust the management to get it right. Agreed on Scannell and Whitehead but not the others. Quaner is seriously shite, not good enough and shows how threadbare we are when he is starting matches in the top division. Hefele just isn't good enough, have him in the dressing room acting the goat by all means, but he should not be anywhere near that pitch come 3 o'clock. He's played 2 games this season and had 2 fuck ups. Smith - Mr. Negative, what happened to the attacking right full back we had last season? For that one incident alone at Newcastle, I'd never play him again. What incident?
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Post by kes on Apr 15, 2018 18:48:14 GMT 1
Most of the so say " not good enoughs" will now be on very good money. Why would they leave ?
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Post by allan 1958 (OAF-WROY)(SSLFF) on Apr 15, 2018 19:43:05 GMT 1
Most of the so say " not good enoughs" will now be on very good money. Why would they leave ? They have earned a tilt at the big time. Some have made it others not. It is just a bit premature for my liking to be discussing the disposal of elements of the squad. May 9th will come quick enough. These not good enough-s may still have a big part to play in our survival. UTT PS the players will know themselves without us telling them.
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Post by Kenny irons on Apr 15, 2018 21:22:46 GMT 1
A few players out of contact in the prem and championship who we could have a eye on
Premiership Chris brunt wba James mCcarthur palace Ki sung Yong Swansea James Morrison wba Bakery sako palace Glen johnsen stoke Martin kelly palace Marc Pugh bornmuff
Championship Ryan fredericks Fulham Junior holiett Cardiff Abel Hernandez hull Bobby Reid Bristol City Marlon pack Bristol City Alexandre tettey Norwich Andy yiadom Barnsley
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Post by capitalterrier on Apr 15, 2018 21:25:16 GMT 1
I'd like us to go back to Norwich and take Maddison as well. He's a great player in that attacking midfield slot.
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Post by The-Crab on Apr 15, 2018 21:50:22 GMT 1
Going up we had to give a chance for certain players to prove their worth in the P.L, some have and some haven't. Wagner will make the final decision, but I think we need at least 5/6 players replaced. Hopefully most from abroad, so as to not break the bank......this applies to staying up of course.
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Post by Dan on Apr 15, 2018 23:09:44 GMT 1
A few players out of contact in the prem and championship who we could have a eye on Premiership Chris brunt wba James mCcarthur palace Ki sung Yong Swansea James Morrison wba Bakery sako palace Glen johnsen stoke Martin kelly palace Marc Pugh bornmuff Championship Ryan fredericks Fulham Junior holiett Cardiff Abel Hernandez hull Bobby Reid Bristol City Marlon pack Bristol City Alexandre tettey Norwich Andy yiadom Barnsley Ki Sung Young would be a great replacement for Billing if he goes to Celta Vigo, but might have interest from higher up the table. Would definitely take Hoilett if Cardiff don't go up.
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Post by Gold Coast Terrier on Apr 15, 2018 23:20:29 GMT 1
Odd how little game time Burke got at West Brom this season. This is one I could see us going back in for. If we were interested before then there’s good chance we’re still interested. We don’t let a bad season blur our analysis of a player’s potential.
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Post by TTCMatt on Apr 16, 2018 0:09:30 GMT 1
OK ALL Will be revealed as you with your comment know Wilson is not coming back? would you like to tell us how you know that? just asking Nah, I'm going to remain as vague as possible, say nothing and then when it's announced reckon I'd told you who it was all along. Winning.
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Post by townohiofan on Apr 16, 2018 0:14:09 GMT 1
How much will be spent on transfers this summer? Was the Pritchard fee taken out of the planned spending for this summer or was it always within the plan to make a splash in January?
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Post by melbourneterrier on Apr 16, 2018 0:35:34 GMT 1
Callum Mcmanman always seemed to have something about him. Dunno how he has got on this year mind and his goal ratio isn't the best.
Friend at Boro would be alright in the PL, as would Bamford
Course we will get unknowns, but I'm happy with that.
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Post by pikeylewis on Apr 16, 2018 1:22:48 GMT 1
Gudmundsson at Burnley. Hard working, technically sound, and the boy can cross. One can dream. Rondon at WBA. Would imagine he will have bigger dogs sniffing about than us but has been exceptional in the league's worst side this season. Boufal at Southampton. Massive wildcard this one but has bags of ability. Maybe too similar to RVLP but he'd be brave on the ball and direct, something which we've lacked immensely. Shane Long at Southampton. Admired him for years for his style and underrated technical and finishing ability. Always signed him on FIFA when we weren't MASSIVE. Would fit our identity seamlessly. Not going to score 10+ realistically though so maybe not the solution. Left Back at Wherever as long as it's not Malone or Davidson. Luke Shaw , Chilwell, Masuaku. Probably look abroad. Bobby Reid at Brizzle City got some great traits. Worth a punt. Not sure if Madisson at Norwich would balance the side well, Pritchard doing well. Hopefully a load more German WINNERS. A LAM and RAM the important ones for me. Oh and a midfielder the combination of Hogg, Williams, Mooy and Billing please Mr Hoyle and Mr Wagner. I've torn my ankle ligaments or i'd volunteer myself for free.
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Post by melbourneterrier on Apr 16, 2018 2:40:30 GMT 1
No thanks for Long, was a fan but he's been off it this year
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Post by HuddsTerrier on Apr 16, 2018 7:28:34 GMT 1
Most of the names on this list make me cringe
They are “seasoned” middling to below average Premier League players whose ability is on the slide
They have millions in the bank and may lack enough hunger ... then if starts to go wrong they sulk despite the club lumbered with massive wages
It’s the recipe for building a Sunderland or Villa squad last year. WBA this year
Give me up and comers with a point to prove and more realistic wage demands
As for rubbishing the players who got us here - not for me. They’re all modern Town legends in my book
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