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Post by Mastercracker on Dec 12, 2022 15:19:21 GMT 1
I live 4.5 miles from the ground yet I'm already looking at those 2 home games in 4 days over Xmas and thinking I CBA with this shit once never mind twice. And they are massive games for the future of this club. Everyone I know is in a state of complete apathy, and that is ultimately because the club seems to have completely given up. It's not a loss at Sheff U, it's everything else. From a position of strength in May we've then: - Lost our manager and replaced with one of his coaches on the proviso of continuity - Sold any player that attracted interest - Replaced them with mostly young players who've never played at this level - Ballsed up every premier league loan - Cut the already small budget to not even top end L1 levels - Watched Schofield have a meltdown tactically and not be the continuity option at all - Ridden a of PR about a potential returning hero only to appoint some bloke everyone had to google - Watch him turn out to be an inarticulate shouty 90s throwback who's answer to everything is run more, whilst listen to him tell us all he's doing a great job and prattle on about scaffolding All whilst our Fan owner ran off to the hills. We might have had some brilliant times for which we should be rightfully thankful but I'd be amazed if Gibson/Bloom/Benham leave Boro/Brighton/Brentford on life support when they eventually leave their clubs. We won't get 40 points this season. Brilliant post. Let’s not ignore how much of a PR genius Hoyle is. He’s very quick to tell everyone he had to come in and keep the club afloat and how much it’s costing to do that (it seemed to find its way in the examiner quite quick as well 👀) but he hasn’t been too quick to come out and tell everyone he turned down an offer for the club from Marcus Evans just before Wembley because he was prepared to take that chance we could go up and he could claw back the money he wants. Since 2018, it’s been a collective of bad decisions from Hoyle, who he’s appointed on and off the pitch which has culminated in a complete fucking mess of our finances, we’ve lost good people, we’ve lost an identity, a culture, a togetherness. The whole club, board and Hoyle should be held accountable. How can a board be so passive? Here’s his statement from the end of 2018 www.htafc.com/news/2018/december/dean-hoyle-new-years-message-20182/“I will NOT let us sleepwalk into relegation” If you think people like me are being negative, this apathy isn’t down to just results or league position, it’s beyond that. It’s the entire DNA of the club, the placement, the message, the ambition that’s gone. The cowshed loyal called the club out back in July and it wasn’t something that sat well with everyone, since July NOTHING has changed at the club. If anything, it’s got worse. I'd also throw into my apathy the fact we don't have a single player worth paying to watch right now. Going back to the start of Hoyle's time at HTFC we've had, relative to the levels we've played at: Roberts Pilks Clayton at a push Vaughan/Beckford Butterfield Nahki at times Mooy VLP (end product woeful but no denying he got people off their seat) Izzy Schindler Billing Mounie and Kongolo at points Grant Bacuna at times Smith-Rowe Toff LOB Eiting MKI Colwill Not all were excellent overall footballers but all were capable of doing stuff normal folk couldn't and exciting people to differing levels. The closest we have now is Russell who whilst very easy on the eye with the ball at his feet (last season at least) cant run and is getting bombed out, and the lesser spotted Tino who is quickly looking at an Izzy Brown type career. The lack of flair and unpredictability in our squad right now is stark. We have players who I like, players who have been amazing servants for the club (Hogg) and players with a decent future in the game (Camara, Sorba), but absolutely nobody capable of running a game, or anyone capable of creating something from nothing. We just have a squad of workhorses. In fact I think all I've enjoyed this season bar Tino v West Brom (and let's not forget it started in July!) are a few mazy runs from Pat Jones and Diarra.
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Post by hthp on Dec 12, 2022 15:21:12 GMT 1
Did you really just say Corberan is one of the greatest things to happen to this club? Please do let me know the exhaustive list of coaches that have had a greater impact than transforming relegation fodder into 2nd division play off finalists on a shoe string budget. I’ll wait David Wagner.
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Post by htfcterry on Dec 12, 2022 15:37:36 GMT 1
My circumstances were always that renewal would be a waste of time next season as I will be 300 miles from Huddersfield by start of next season if all goes to plan. Realistically though I've missed so many games this time that it wasn't really worth it this season either. I've looked at my diary and my next likely home game is Jan 28th and I might not even make that I live 4.5 miles from the ground yet I'm already looking at those 2 home games in 4 days over Xmas and thinking I CBA with this shit once never mind twice. And they are massive games for the future of this club. Everyone I know is in a state of complete apathy, and that is ultimately because the club seems to have completely given up. It's not a loss at Sheff U, it's everything else. From a position of strength in May we've then: - Lost our manager and replaced with one of his coaches on the proviso of continuity - Sold any player that attracted interest - Replaced them with mostly young players who've never played at this level - Ballsed up every premier league loan - Cut the already small budget to not even top end L1 levels - Watched Schofield have a meltdown tactically and not be the continuity option at all - Ridden a of PR about a potential returning hero only to appoint some bloke everyone had to google - Watch him turn out to be an inarticulate shouty 90s throwback who's answer to everything is run more, whilst listen to him tell us all he's doing a great job and prattle on about scaffolding All whilst our Fan owner ran off to the hills. We might have had some brilliant times for which we should be rightfully thankful but I'd be amazed if Gibson/Bloom/Benham leave Boro/Brighton/Brentford on life support when they eventually leave their clubs. We won't get 40 points this season. Great post! I gave up attending after Dean had announced he was stepping down and didn't have the "same energy and enthusiasm" as he did previously. If the man at the very top hasn't got the "energy and enthusiasm" for the club anymore then I'm not sure why a paying customer should - but that is my own choice and I can see why some may still be devoted. This season for me is a write off and I'll probably only go to Coventry away (if they are at the Ricoh) as that's the only ground in the league I haven't been to. I hope, by some miracle, we stay up - but I cannot get behind the club until it has a new direction.
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Post by terriersyndrome on Dec 12, 2022 15:43:29 GMT 1
Please do let me know the exhaustive list of coaches that have had a greater impact than transforming relegation fodder into 2nd division play off finalists on a shoe string budget. I’ll wait David Wagner. Tbf, Wagner had money to spend, Carlos didn't have one penny to spend in transfer fees in his two seasons here.
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Post by hthp on Dec 12, 2022 15:58:55 GMT 1
Tbf, Wagner had money to spend, Carlos didn't have one penny to spend in transfer fees in his two seasons here. Wagner had the 23rd biggest budget in the Championship. Corberan spent money on Pipa, Sorba Thomas, Richard Keogh and Duane Holmes so your comment is incorrect.
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Post by York Terrier on Dec 12, 2022 16:06:08 GMT 1
Brilliant post. Let’s not ignore how much of a PR genius Hoyle is. He’s very quick to tell everyone he had to come in and keep the club afloat and how much it’s costing to do that (it seemed to find its way in the examiner quite quick as well 👀) but he hasn’t been too quick to come out and tell everyone he turned down an offer for the club from Marcus Evans just before Wembley because he was prepared to take that chance we could go up and he could claw back the money he wants. Since 2018, it’s been a collective of bad decisions from Hoyle, who he’s appointed on and off the pitch which has culminated in a complete fucking mess of our finances, we’ve lost good people, we’ve lost an identity, a culture, a togetherness. The whole club, board and Hoyle should be held accountable. How can a board be so passive? Here’s his statement from the end of 2018 www.htafc.com/news/2018/december/dean-hoyle-new-years-message-20182/“I will NOT let us sleepwalk into relegation” If you think people like me are being negative, this apathy isn’t down to just results or league position, it’s beyond that. It’s the entire DNA of the club, the placement, the message, the ambition that’s gone. The cowshed loyal called the club out back in July and it wasn’t something that sat well with everyone, since July NOTHING has changed at the club. If anything, it’s got worse. I'd also throw into my apathy the fact we don't have a single player worth paying to watch right now. Going back to the start of Hoyle's time at HTFC we've had, relative to the levels we've played at: Roberts Pilks Clayton at a push Vaughan/Beckford Butterfield Nahki at times Mooy VLP (end product woeful but no denying he got people off their seat) Izzy Schindler Billing Mounie and Kongolo at points Grant Bacuna at times Smith-Rowe Toff LOB Eiting MKI Colwill Not all were excellent overall footballers but all were capable of doing stuff normal folk couldn't and exciting people to differing levels. The closest we have now is Russell who whilst very easy on the eye with the ball at his feet (last season at least) cant run and is getting bombed out, and the lesser spotted Tino who is quickly looking at an Izzy Brown type career. The lack of flair and unpredictability in our squad right now is stark. We have players who I like, players who have been amazing servants for the club (Hogg) and players with a decent future in the game (Camara, Sorba), but absolutely nobody capable of running a game, or anyone capable of creating something from nothing. We just have a squad of workhorses. In fact I think all I've enjoyed this season bar Tino v West Brom (and let's not forget it started in July!) are a few mazy runs from Pat Jones and Diarra. I understand your frustration but don’t quite understand the point you are making If we had a decent manager getting the team playing attacking football ( which is what was promised ) I think some of the existing squad would be entertainers. Confidence is a major part of everyone’s life and in particular footballers and our players are lacking in confidence at the moment. There are two things to take into consideration here the first being the terrible injury list and the second and most important the appointment of a manager totally out of his depth at championship level. Also if DH pulls out we go into administration and have a points reduction which will guarantee relegation I know it won’t happen but a new manager and a few good signings will make a massive difference
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Post by benhomly on Dec 12, 2022 17:20:55 GMT 1
Did you really just say Corberan is one of the greatest things to happen to this club? Please do let me know the exhaustive list of coaches that have had a greater impact than transforming relegation fodder into 2nd division play off finalists on a shoe string budget. I’ll wait You do know we have an illustrious past with a string of achievements don’t you? So to say Corberan is one of the greatest things to happen to this club is laughable at the very least. And this shoestring budget you go on about backed a squad that had 2 players in it that have gone on to play in the Premier League this season, one who has played in the World Cup this season, the best goalkeeper in the Championship last season, a quality loan signing from Chelsea who was a revelation and a loan signing from Norwich who was far better and contributed far more than anyone gives him credit for. Don’t put much of any of that down to Corberan myself. I’ll carry on laughing.
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Post by goodbet on Dec 12, 2022 17:37:45 GMT 1
Tbf, Wagner had money to spend, Carlos didn't have one penny to spend in transfer fees in his two seasons here. Wagner had the 23rd biggest budget in the Championship. Corberan spent money on Pipa, Sorba Thomas, Richard Keogh and Duane Holmes so your comment is incorrect. I doubt that Corberan spent any money on the list above apart from recommending Pipa.
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Post by rockwall on Dec 12, 2022 18:30:38 GMT 1
I live 4.5 miles from the ground yet I'm already looking at those 2 home games in 4 days over Xmas and thinking I CBA with this shit once never mind twice. And they are massive games for the future of this club. Everyone I know is in a state of complete apathy, and that is ultimately because the club seems to have completely given up. It's not a loss at Sheff U, it's everything else. From a position of strength in May we've then: - Lost our manager and replaced with one of his coaches on the proviso of continuity - Sold any player that attracted interest - Replaced them with mostly young players who've never played at this level - Ballsed up every premier league loan - Cut the already small budget to not even top end L1 levels - Watched Schofield have a meltdown tactically and not be the continuity option at all - Ridden a of PR about a potential returning hero only to appoint some bloke everyone had to google - Watch him turn out to be an inarticulate shouty 90s throwback who's answer to everything is run more, whilst listen to him tell us all he's doing a great job and prattle on about scaffolding All whilst our Fan owner ran off to the hills. We might have had some brilliant times for which we should be rightfully thankful but I'd be amazed if Gibson/Bloom/Benham leave Boro/Brighton/Brentford on life support when they eventually leave their clubs. We won't get 40 points this season. Brilliant post. Let’s not ignore how much of a PR genius Hoyle is. He’s very quick to tell everyone he had to come in and keep the club afloat and how much it’s costing to do that (it seemed to find its way in the examiner quite quick as well 👀) but he hasn’t been too quick to come out and tell everyone he turned down an offer for the club from Marcus Evans just before Wembley because he was prepared to take that chance we could go up and he could claw back the money he wants. Since 2018, it’s been a collective of bad decisions from Hoyle, who he’s appointed on and off the pitch which has culminated in a complete fucking mess of our finances, we’ve lost good people, we’ve lost an identity, a culture, a togetherness. The whole club, board and Hoyle should be held accountable. How can a board be so passive? Here’s his statement from the end of 2018 www.htafc.com/news/2018/december/dean-hoyle-new-years-message-20182/“I will NOT let us sleepwalk into relegation” If you think people like me are being negative, this apathy isn’t down to just results or league position, it’s beyond that. It’s the entire DNA of the club, the placement, the message, the ambition that’s gone. The cowshed loyal called the club out back in July and it wasn’t something that sat well with everyone, since July NOTHING has changed at the club. If anything, it’s got worse. This. Could not be put much better. Factual too.
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Post by rockwall on Dec 12, 2022 18:35:00 GMT 1
Please do let me know the exhaustive list of coaches that have had a greater impact than transforming relegation fodder into 2nd division play off finalists on a shoe string budget. I’ll wait David Wagner. Division was diff, but Jacko 2003 was a bigger success.
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Post by mids on Dec 12, 2022 18:42:15 GMT 1
It is all very depressing at the moment, but I for one won’t be giving up on my beloved town. Rough and smooth simple. Love football love town no owner will ever change that. Those who give up don’t have the fight in them , you go and go again and again, doesn’t after be every week .if not your loss long term . Sanctimonious. Look it up.
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Post by galpharm2400 on Dec 12, 2022 18:49:12 GMT 1
I might get depressed about Town if we start getting arseholed regularly.
Helik in injury time and saturday might be seen by some as a decent away result.
I know we are not doing enough attacking but fine margins would seem to be easier to turn round one or two than right good hidings..??
Im not going to have a go at Dean or the manager, its a bit pointless now. Love to go back and shout my fucking head off as they talked about spending shitloads on French wingers..
UTT..
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Post by hthp on Dec 12, 2022 19:19:07 GMT 1
Wagner had the 23rd biggest budget in the Championship. Corberan spent money on Pipa, Sorba Thomas, Richard Keogh and Duane Holmes so your comment is incorrect. I doubt that Corberan spent any money on the list above apart from recommending Pipa. Okay then, fees were paid for those four players.
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Post by Porrohman on Dec 12, 2022 19:20:07 GMT 1
Tbf, Wagner had money to spend, Carlos didn't have one penny to spend in transfer fees in his two seasons here. Wagner had the 23rd biggest budget in the Championship. Corberan spent money on Pipa, Sorba Thomas, Richard Keogh and Duane Holmes so your comment is incorrect. I bet all 4 together cost less than what Wagner spent on Schinds
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Post by andyeastleake on Dec 12, 2022 19:25:37 GMT 1
Please do let me know the exhaustive list of coaches that have had a greater impact than transforming relegation fodder into 2nd division play off finalists on a shoe string budget. I’ll wait You do know we have an illustrious past with a string of achievements don’t you? So to say Corberan is one of the greatest things to happen to this club is laughable at the very least. And this shoestring budget you go on about backed a squad that had 2 players in it that have gone on to play in the Premier League this season, one who has played in the World Cup this season, the best goalkeeper in the Championship last season, a quality loan signing from Chelsea who was a revelation and a loan signing from Norwich who was far better and contributed far more than anyone gives him credit for. Don’t put much of any of that down to Corberan myself. I’ll carry on laughing. Ben, I've split your post in two. I agree with the basic sentiment that to describe a manager who took the club to a play off final as one of the greatest things to happen to the club, when we've won the league three times in a row is a massive exaggeration... ...however I think you're in turn really understating how well Coberan did last year. Whilst shoestring budget may be OTT, I'd wager it over-performed in comparison to others that were higher... Further, is there any remaining member of the squad playing anywhere near as well as last year? I don't think so (& the player who went to the world cup & the goalkeeper are two prime examples). Surely you judge a coach from what he's got from his squad and I think Coberan did better than most expected from both prior and subsequent performances of the members of that squad.
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Post by shawsie on Dec 12, 2022 19:48:39 GMT 1
Tbf, Wagner had money to spend, Carlos didn't have one penny to spend in transfer fees in his two seasons here. Wagner had the 23rd biggest budget in the Championship. Corberan spent money on Pipa, Sorba Thomas, Richard Keogh and Duane Holmes so your comment is incorrect. Not to mention the wages of bloody aarons!
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Post by benhomly on Dec 12, 2022 20:06:04 GMT 1
You do know we have an illustrious past with a string of achievements don’t you? So to say Corberan is one of the greatest things to happen to this club is laughable at the very least. And this shoestring budget you go on about backed a squad that had 2 players in it that have gone on to play in the Premier League this season, one who has played in the World Cup this season, the best goalkeeper in the Championship last season, a quality loan signing from Chelsea who was a revelation and a loan signing from Norwich who was far better and contributed far more than anyone gives him credit for. Don’t put much of any of that down to Corberan myself. I’ll carry on laughing. Ben, I've split your post in two. I agree with the basic sentiment that to describe a manager who took the club to a play off final as one of the greatest things to happen to the club, when we've won the league three times in a row is a massive exaggeration... ...however I think you're in turn really understating how well Coberan did last year. Whilst shoestring budget may be OTT, I'd wager it over-performed in comparison to others that were higher... Further, is there any remaining member of the squad playing anywhere near as well as last year? I don't think so (& the player who went to the world cup & the goalkeeper are two prime examples). Surely you judge a coach from what he's got from his squad and I think Coberan did better than most expected from both prior and subsequent performances of the members of that squad. Aye, fair enough. My gripe really was with the ‘one of the best things to happen to this club’ claim. He did well last season to be fair but I maintain the gap between the PL and Championship is widening every season and the standard in our division in the last 2 seasons has been poor IMO. Anyone can beat anyone, even us. I pity anyone going up now as they face potential thrashings most weeks. I’d still have been happy to see Corberan sacked after his first season though for the way he set us up to lose heavily at Middlesbrough and Norwich that season. Norwich especially, 5 down at half time and I said to a mate if we concede 10 that’s me done.
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Post by nicovaesen on Dec 12, 2022 20:16:01 GMT 1
Stop being wet wipes there’s is something we can do……get behind the lads and cheer them on. Plus we have a Hogg and he will sort this shit out.
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Post by bluebeard on Dec 12, 2022 20:17:08 GMT 1
Have some people forgot just how ill Dean Hoyle was and i do not blame him at all for wanting to sell the club, your health is more important than anything. Fans are for life! i have watched Town since 1966 as an 8 yr old kid and i have no plans to give up watching them yet. If we go down we go down, then some fans might realize how lucky we were to Dean Hoyle as chairman and owner.
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Dec 12, 2022 20:26:20 GMT 1
Wagner had Aaron Mooy. That was like a cheat code
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Post by shawsie on Dec 12, 2022 20:27:31 GMT 1
Have some people forgot just how ill Dean Hoyle was and i do not blame him at all for wanting to sell the club, your health is more important than anything. Fans are for life! i have watched Town since 1966 as an 8 yr old kid and i have no plans to give up watching them yet. If we go down we go down, then some fans might realize how lucky we were to Dean Hoyle as chairman and owner. Bluebeard - nobody begrudges deans health and the issues in that regard. But when youve constantly told everyone you dont expect your investment back then structure an exit where thats far from the case then you will be rightly questioned for it imho! No need for the nastiness and name calling - but its disappointing to realise the man many thought was a truly "different" fan owner actually isnt.
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Post by westislandterrier on Dec 12, 2022 20:45:13 GMT 1
Have some people forgot just how ill Dean Hoyle was and i do not blame him at all for wanting to sell the club, your health is more important than anything. Fans are for life! i have watched Town since 1966 as an 8 yr old kid and i have no plans to give up watching them yet. If we go down we go down, then some fans might realize how lucky we were to Dean Hoyle as chairman and owner. Statement of the month ! - I’ve always said that a team is for life and not just for the festive season when all things are generally wonderful... From my own personal point of view I’d still go to see Huddersfield Town twice a season should they (Heaven forbid) end in The Vauxhall Conference - I started off with Town in Division 4 in 1980 so I guess I’ll cope with League One should that be our destiny next season and I’ve seen HTAFC live in that League four times so if that’s where we are I for one will still travel down to Yorkshire for my beloved Huddy Town - However I’m very liberal and easy going and I realise that being a Town supporter is not conscription in law and fans have the right to ‘Chuck it’ if that’s how they feel about things - but I’m not giving in until we are mathematically doomed and even then should that prevail I’ll still be there for England’s finest football club (if certainly not her current team) !
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Post by terriersyndrome on Dec 12, 2022 20:52:19 GMT 1
Stop being wet wipes there’s is something we can do……get behind the lads and cheer them on. Plus we have a Hogg and he will sort this shit out. Hope it's not the same Hogg as the first 6/7 games of the season. That Hogg was shocking.
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Dec 12, 2022 21:16:04 GMT 1
Stop being wet wipes there’s is something we can do……get behind the lads and cheer them on. Plus we have a Hogg and he will sort this shit out. Hope it's not the same Hogg as the first 6/7 games of the season. That Hogg was shocking. No this is a Hogg coached and managed by Mark Fotheringham. He'll be a mix of Kante and Modric
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Post by mids on Dec 12, 2022 21:18:05 GMT 1
Have some people forgot just how ill Dean Hoyle was and i do not blame him at all for wanting to sell the club, your health is more important than anything. Fans are for life! i have watched Town since 1966 as an 8 yr old kid and i have no plans to give up watching them yet. If we go down we go down, then some fans might realize how lucky we were to Dean Hoyle as chairman and owner. Bluebeard - nobody begrudges deans health and the issues in that regard. But when youve constantly told everyone you dont expect your investment back then structure an exit where thats far from the case then you will be rightly questioned for it imho! No need for the nastiness and name calling - but its disappointing to realise the man many thought was a truly "different" fan owner actually isnt. To be equally fair mate those comments of Dean's came when we were nowhere near the Premier League. If we had stayed a Championship team his comments would have stayed true. But we hit 'the jackpot' and he rolled the dice and spent a lot of money. He likely thinks he wants that money he spent in those two years. Whether that's right or wrong is debatable. The truth is the Premier League, in hindsight, was a shit show of bad decisions and piss poor management of the club's finances. We are where we are. Lots of people to blame at all levels. It's a shame but life goes on, and to 99.9% of us it's just a game and not the be all and end all.
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Post by Toxic Ted on Dec 12, 2022 21:18:33 GMT 1
Hope it's not the same Hogg as the first 6/7 games of the season. That Hogg was shocking. No this is a Hogg coached and managed by Mark Fotheringham. He'll be a mix of Kante and Modric Yep. Modric’s pace, tackling and tracking back, Kante’s vision, dribbling and aerial prowess.
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Post by crux on Dec 12, 2022 21:28:40 GMT 1
No this is a Hogg coached and managed by Mark Fotheringham. He'll be a mix of Kante and Modric Yep. Modric’s pace, tackling and tracking back, Kante’s vision, dribbling and aerial prowess. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
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Post by ShortbreadPete on Dec 12, 2022 21:30:44 GMT 1
Have some people forgot just how ill Dean Hoyle was and i do not blame him at all for wanting to sell the club, your health is more important than anything. Fans are for life! i have watched Town since 1966 as an 8 yr old kid and i have no plans to give up watching them yet. If we go down we go down, then some fans might realize how lucky we were to Dean Hoyle as chairman and owner. Bluebeard - nobody begrudges deans health and the issues in that regard. But when youve constantly told everyone you dont expect your investment back then structure an exit where thats far from the case then you will be rightly questioned for it imho! No need for the nastiness and name calling - but its disappointing to realise the man many thought was a truly "different" fan owner actually isnt. 'Constantly told everyone'. That's a ridiculous exaggeration. It was said once at Canalside when we were going nowhere in the Championship when he said 'I'm not expecting to get any money back'. It was fair comment at the time but now used as a stick to beat him by some
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Post by shawsie on Dec 12, 2022 21:33:12 GMT 1
Bluebeard - nobody begrudges deans health and the issues in that regard. But when youve constantly told everyone you dont expect your investment back then structure an exit where thats far from the case then you will be rightly questioned for it imho! No need for the nastiness and name calling - but its disappointing to realise the man many thought was a truly "different" fan owner actually isnt. To be equally fair mate those comments of Dean's came when we were nowhere near the Premier League. If we had stayed a Championship team his comments would have stayed true. But we hit 'the jackpot' and he rolled the dice and spent a lot of money. He likely thinks he wants that money he spent in those two years. Whether that's right or wrong is debatable. The truth is the Premier League, in hindsight, was a shit show of bad decisions and puss poor management of the club's finances. We are where we are. Lots of people to blame at all levels. It's a shame but life goes on, and to 99.9% of us it's just a game and not the be all and end all. Fair point fella......but was he investing further or utilising the prem tv money to fund it? Either way, the acquisitions of mbenza, diakhaby, pritchard, sobhi right royally shafted us! Spot on re not be all and end all - far more important matters in my life these days.
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Post by shawsie on Dec 12, 2022 21:36:26 GMT 1
Bluebeard - nobody begrudges deans health and the issues in that regard. But when youve constantly told everyone you dont expect your investment back then structure an exit where thats far from the case then you will be rightly questioned for it imho! No need for the nastiness and name calling - but its disappointing to realise the man many thought was a truly "different" fan owner actually isnt. 'Constantly told everyone'. That's a ridiculous exaggeration. It was said once at Canalside when we were going nowhere in the Championship when he said 'I'm not expecting to get any money back'. It was fair comment at the time but now used as a stick to beat him by some Its not pete.....he said it a few times. If it was a fair comment back then.....what changed? Surely a deal to sell without expectation of a return would have been less onerous on new ownership and more beneficial to the club? Easy to say i know but hopefully you get my drift.
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